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it's gotten so bad that newt gingrich is saying these guys have to stick together. >> that makes sense, what's going to happen with republicans going forward if this republican majority, as small as it is not going to be a complete bust over the next year or so, before the next election. one thing about newt gingrich, he was a fire brand, insurgent, disrupter. but was also highly disor disorganized. that where america ticked off everything they did. as soon as they had a bill, they publicized it. it's none of that in this republican conference. >> there's absolutely zero. and right now, we're just struggling to get a speaker before the deadline to keep the government funded the week before thanksgiving. stephen collinson, we'll have you back soon.
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thanks to all of you for joining us as well. i'm kasie hunt, don't go anywhere, "cnn this morning" starts right now. glad you're with us. i'm pop bipy harlow and phil mattingly. overnight the israeli military launching raids and ramping up airstrikes on gaza. the idf says troops are preparing for the, quote, next phase of the war. take a look, this is video of the aftermath this morning. sources tell cnn the u.s. is urging israel to delay a ground assault in the hopes of getting more hostages out and humanitarian aid in for the millions of palestinians who are running out of food and water. but a senior israeli official tells cnn there will be no cease fire. the idf now says 222 people were kidnapped during the hamas
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attack and massacre just about two weeks ago. and israel's president is now claiming one of the militants who was killed was car carrying instructions on how to make chemical weapons. let's go to erin burnett. we've seen rhetoric and escalation. what is the latest? >> reporter: certainly our teams along the gaza border have observed a real increase in being a different. but it is spotty. you will see a big increase for a few hours and then a bit calmer. nic robertson has been there the past two week and we're on day 17. these increased strikes overnight, the idf putting out the latest numbers saying they had 320 strikes on gaza overnight. 320 targets and they specifically say that they hit tunnels and what they say are dozens brace al command centers. just do the math here, that is 320 overnight. sunday they had said that they
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had done more than 200 the day before. so when you look at say 500 over a two day period, you look at the 17 days since this has bec begun, they say they have taken out the chiefs of the rockets command who was in charge of rockets firing into israel, so they have taken out a bit of the hamas command. but as we say, the strikes have been picking up. we'll see during the daylight hours what happens. >> just talk about the significance, if you could, about what israeli president herzog is saying. the idf found instructions for a chemical attack on the body of a hamas operative. cnn hasn't verified it, but what would the implication of that be if true? >> obviously very significant. i've seen some of the documents, and matthew chance had the opportunity to obtain a lot of these, and eve seei've seen some
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documents in arabic that showed the attack plans. incredibly detailed battle plans dated on them for a full year. showing the operational level of planning. this specific chemical weapons claim that the idf is saying, they are saying they found a usb on one of the terrorists that had on it chemical weapons plans of instructions of how to make accrued chemical weapon with a drawing that referred tos distributing cyanide. they say this specific plan was from an al qaeda manual from 2003. so in a sense it shows the crudeness of this, right, they didn't have 234ianything new, b mass cyanide distribution is not necessarily that you need technological innovation on. so they would say the significance of this is obviously notable, but they don't have any evidence that there was anything with this individual that would enable them to do this. it is just the presence of the plan existed on the usb. that is the latest that we have.
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and we haven't confirmed it ourselves. >> and we spend so much time talking about aid convoys and whether they could get through. they started to trickle in over the weekend. i believe a third just a short while ago. but they need much more. what is the latest there? >> this is the third day in a row that trucks have gone in. u.n. had said you need about 100 trucks a day and we were talking 14 yesterday. so obviously we're not anywhere near the number that are needed. two important things to note. one, they are on doing extra screening so that slows it down. israel is adamant that fuel could not go in because they say that would be diverted to hamas. but hospitals are saying that they are operating without morphine. so you have a dire need and you also have these generators that run the hospitals. they rely on fuel and need fuel coming in. fuel is so far not part of the humanitarian convoys. so while it is good they are coming in, it certainly does not address in any way the magnitude of the crisis that is facing gaza right now here of course in
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the early afternoon on this monday morning. we do understand when we talk about the pace of strikes, 300 -- as i said, 320 targets overnight. the u.s. government even with that is asking israel to delay the ground assault on gaza. this is the latest reporting we have. basically the reason is to allow more time for talks with hamas about releasing hostages and the aid into gaza. hamas released two americans on friday and there had been hope and speculation and in fact clearly discussions going on, hope that there would be more released over the weekend but there have not been. we understand there are still 222 hostages being held. and i think it is important to make the point that we were told 150, 199, and now the number keeps inching up. we don't know whether that means that idf is getting more intel, but important to notice it. natasha bertrand is live at the pentagon. and you have been reporting on this pressure the u.s. government is exerting. are they putting a time line on
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it, is it like wait, wait, or something more specific around this? >> reporter: we don't know if there is a specific time line at this point or if the u.s. is simply telling the israelis let's see how all of these negotiations play out to give it a chance to actually work. and we have been told that the qataris are actually the key intermediaries here, they have been talking to hamas about the potential of releasing even more hostages. so that is what the u.s. wants to see, they want to see if before israel launches a ground i incursion, they can secure the release of more hostages because of course there are several americans believed to be held by hamas inside gaza. and the other aspect of this of course is the humanitarian aid. the biden administration wants to see whether more humanitarian aid can flow into southern gaza before they launch the ground incursion and give that an opportunity to work. of course it remains unclear how
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israel is responding to this behind closed doors, but the fact that they have not yet launched the much anticipated ground incursion does suggest that they are perhaps heeding the u.s. calls here. israeli officials have said publicly that the u.s. has been pressuring them very intensely to allow the humanitarian aid, food, medical supplies to get into gaza. and so it does seem at this point like that delay is working. but still the israelis are obviously very keen on launching this invasion, something that israeli officials have said publicly they plan to do. >> right. and of course you have all these people -- this country is known for being an economic juggernaut, that has been its entire power to the world. and right now it is not open for business. that is the reality. and you have so many young talented best and brightest on that border that are not going to work, schools are not fully open. it is not functioning here. so they need to make their
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decision, and they feel that acutely. over the weekend, the defense department said they were increasing military presence in the region, more troops ready to deploy, missile defense systems. what have you learned from pentagon sources? >> reporter: yeah, i can tell you that here people are really concerned about the recent escalations that have been an served over the last week or so. several drone attacks on u.s. bases in iraq and serial as well of course as the intercepted missiles that u.s. navy warship conducted last week off the ko coast of yemen, several intercepted that were launched by houthis from yemen towards israel. it appears that that was the trajectory they were taking. so things are kind of ramping up across the region and officials here are very worried that u.s. troops and u.s. forces could be the target of that as they have been over the last several days.
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so the u.s. defense secretary to send additional air defense systems for the bases across the refugee upon here is what s secretary austin said over the weekend. >> what we're seeing is the prospect of a significant escalation of attacks on our troops and our people throughout the region. we maintain the right to defend ourselves and we won't hesitate to take the appropriate action. >> reporter: right now it is unclear just how involved iran is on these kind of escalations across the region. the u.s. has said that these are iran-backed proxies who are carrying out the various attacks on u.s. forces and coalition bases there, but unclear how much iran is directing this.
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they continue to look at the intelligence and seeing whether iran has a direct hand in this or not. >> natasha bertrand, thank you very much. and an israeli american we understand this morning has been killed while serving in israeli dee defense forces. idf says omar was a staff reservist, he was killed on friday on the northern border. israel says by anti-tank missile fired by a militant group led by hezbollah. he came to israel after israel called up more than 300,000 reserv reservists. the jewish day school from which he recently graduated called him unabashed advocate for the state of israel. he was just 22. overnight new strikes in lebanon, targeting hezbollah terror sources as concerns grow.
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and more military assets are being sent and putting american troops on prepare to deployed ones. so what more is being done right now to prevent a wider escalation in the region? that is next.
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new overnight israel says it struck what it called a terrorist cell in lebanese territory following two strikes on sunday. lloyd austin expressing concern about a wider escalation toward
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american troops in the area. let's bring in military analyst colonel cedric leighton. thanks for joining us. to start with the concerns for escalation, we've seen u.s. assets move into the region. how real is this concern right now? >> it is pretty real. good morning to you. when you look at the whole region right here, you've got so many different areas that you can actually look at from the standpoint of what could potentially harbor possible threats against u.s. forces. and that includes of course hamas and gaza plus forces in lebanon, syria, iraq, iran, and of course down south in yemen. so all of these areas could potentially harbor places that could affect u.s. troops in the region. and in fact they have done that because they have gone after targets, u.s. bases, that have been targeted in places like iraq and syria and that of
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course has been a significant aspect to this deployment of u.s. forces as well as the overall balance of forces easte. >> everyone was struck by what secretary austin said yesterday. but also secretary blinken said there is a likelihood of escalation by iranian proxies directed against our forces, against our personnel. so sort of doubling down with the specificity on iran. and my question about that is the fact that the u.s. has deployed this additional missile defense system to the region. we know that there is the interception of those shot by houthi rebels and yemen. what does it deployment tell you? >> it tells me that the u.s. is basically getting ready to have a presence in the region, an expanded presence in the region. and the defense system that you are talking about is this one right here, this is the terminal high altitude area defense
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system. so if you think of this as complementary to the patriot system and other air defense systems that are out there, this is the kind of battery that would actually be used in a situation like this. and it fires from a tube-like system here, multiple launching possibilities here, multiple missiles. and they of course are designed too come i to come into an area take out the targets that would be out there. so this is what they did when it came to the missiles fired from yemen. and they were able to of course knock those out of the sky as well as the drones. so basically a force protection measure for the u.s. forces. but it also serves to send a message to any of the forces that are thinking about doing things against the u.s. that we will respond. >> the secretary also talked about the prepare to deployed ones. what does that mean in practice? >> in practice what that means
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is that the forces are being told they need to get ready. there is heightened tension here in the middle east. we are bringing forces in. we have brought in for example uss eisenhower and moved that over here. and so we've got two carrier battle groups, one over here, one possibly in the persian gulf depending on which part of the iranian sea area and persian gulf that they have come into. so what we're doing with a prepare to deployed on, it means get ready. get your stuff ready. because when you are given the order to actually deploy, you will have 24 hours to get into theater. and that is what that means for the u.s. forces that have been given that direction. and it also puts everybody else on notice that we're potentially coming in with more forces into places all around the region that would help us protect israel as well as protect our own national interests. >> colonel cedric leighton, thank you.
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obviously we're staying on all the latest in the israel war on hamas, but also here at home we still don't have a speaker. third week no speaker. and now nine republicans are in the running, which if anyone is getting traction, that is ahead.
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potential new candidates for speaker include tom emmer, kevin hern, jackb bergman and six mor who are clearly george santos. >> "saturday night live" poking fun at the elect speaker. but others call it embarrassing. they will hear from the nine, yes, all nine of them republicans expressing interest in the job. this would be the house republican party's third attempt at rallies behind a candidate after jim jordan withdrew following three failed votes on friday. joining us now, lauren fox. tom emmer has big time support behind him including mccarthy. can he get to 217, can anyone at this point? >> reporter: well, that is the
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question of the week. and we'll be covering every moment of this race. obviously tonight is very important. it is the first opportunity that candidates will have to talk to the broader republican conference. they will meet behind closed doors after 6:00 p.m. tonight and then tomorrow at 9:00 a.m., voting begins. and this again happens behind closed doors. it is a secret ballot. and essentially because there are nine candidates, expect that it will take a bit of time tomorrow. but the expectation is that someone will emerge with the majority, that person will be the speaker designee. and then of course the hard fight to win on the house floor begins. they can only afford to lose a handful of votes because of the narrow republican majority. and that has been what has bedeviled every candidate before them from steve scalise to jim jordan, no one has been able to clinch the necessary 217 votes. tom emmer, republican whip, certainly starts out with a bit of an advantage. he got an endorsement last week
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from kevin mccarthy. here is what mccarthy said about his deputy whip. >> this is not a moment in time to play around with learning on the job. we need someone who understands how to do this job. i believe tom emmer, our whip, he has been in the room with all of our successes, he sets himself head and shoulders above all those others who want to run. we need to get him elected and move on and bring this not just party together but focus on what this country needs most. >> reporter: and i think one dynamic to keep in mind is that because they are voting by secret ballot tomorrow and because there is going to be vote after vote, the lowest vote getter will drop off the ballot and then they will continue voting until someone has a majority. that does create some unpredictability in the room tomorrow. so while tom emmer goes in definitely with a strong advantage given the fact that he has been in leadership before, it is not clear that some republican hardliners will want anybody who has been in
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leadership in the past. a lot of republicans have argued that they want a new start. again, we'll see, can anyone clinch 217 this week. that is the major question. >> lauren fox, going to be a busy one. thank you very much. two american hostages released by hamas, what it means for the others still being held captive. also thousands of palestinian refugees forced from their homes with nowhere to go. why their relocation from gaza and west bank is being called a red line by the king of jordan.
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overnight israeli military launching raids on the ground ramping up airstrikes on gaza. the idf just about half an hour ago said there have been more than 300 strikes on targets in gaza and they say they are preparing their troops for the next phase of the war against hamas which is now on day 17.
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sources telling cnn the u.s. is urging israel to delay a ground assault into gaza in the hopes of getting more hostages out and humanitarian aid in for the more than 2 million palestinians who of course are short of every necessity including water. senior israeli official tells cnn that there will be, though, no ceasefire. the idf has updated their number of hostages. they you now say 222 were kidna. when they add just a few numbers to that, it goes up by three, that is three families who thought that many their child or loved one is dead who thousand have hope that they may be returned alive. each number an individual human being. and this morning president biden, justin trudeau and several european leaders said that they spoke yesterday and issued a joint statement. the white house saying that the leaders reiterated their support for israel and its right to defend itself against terrorism and called for adherence to
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humanitarian law and including protection of civilians. also this morning we're getting a better picture of how desperate the need for aid in gaza is. so a new cnn analysis shows that gaza is more than 7200 truckloads of aid short of what would normally have been delivered since the october 7 attack. keep in mind gaza is completely reliant on aid. 7200 trucks short, they have gotten in 14 trucks yesterday. that is the context before the u.n. says gaza normally receives 455 aid trucks per day. so compare that per day to the 14 that came in in just one 24 hour period over this weekend. so this is a crucial analysis of how dire the situation actually is. people from gaza, the catastrophic humanitarian situation therefore is deepening. near constant bombing has left one hospital overwhelmed they say with bodies, they don't have anymore teen left and of course
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fuel supplies are running out. israel says one thing that is not included in the aid is fuel because hamas will take it and siphon it off. israel's calls for gaza citizens to evacuate from the north to the south are sparking fears of displacement of millions of palestinians. jordan's king abdullah calls it a red line that can't be crossed. nada bashir is joining us now. why is this such a red line for jordan where of course refugee camp is not even an accurate word to use for some of the camps established with syrian refugees. these are now permanent homes for millions of refugees. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. this is a country of more than half of the population are either palestinian or palestinian descent. many came after having to flee in previous wars. and this is a huge issue here. what we've been hearing when we
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speak to people, many of them palestinian refugees who still have loved ones, family members stuck in gaza and they are watching the news desperate to see whether their loved ones have survived, whether their homes have been impacted in the latest round of airstrikes. but the message that we've been hearing from them is that they don't want their loved ones to be forced in to becoming refugees. they don't want them to be e exiled because they fear this means that they will never be able to return. take a look. through the narrow streets of this refugee camp, the mood is clear. >> no america, no america! >> reporter: established more than 70 years ago, this community is now home to more than 30,000 palestinian refugees. just a fraction of the more than 700,000 who were expelled or forced to flee their homes following the 1948 arab/israeli war. families in this camp know the pain of exile all-too well.
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denied by israel their right to return to their homeland, takes life sentence to separation from family, friends, from home. and for those with loved ones still in gaza, they say takes sentence to the cruelest form of anguish. >> translator: are we not human too because we are palestinian? at any given moment i could get a phone call telling me that my sister and her children have been killed. you know my mother was killed during the war in 2009. i hadn't seen her for 12 years. >> reporter: and this man says he has more than 70 relatives in gaza that have already been killed in this latest round of israeli airstrikes. >> translator: our home is palestinian. we will never forget about palestinian. imagine being forced out of your home for 75 years. we have already spent 75 years as refugees. how could you expect the palestinians to leave their homes and move to egypt or
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elsewhere? >> reporter: now the prospects of thousands more palestinians being forcibly displaced to neighboring countries or even further afield has been condemned by leaders and characterized by the king of jordan and other officials as both a war crime and red line for the country. >> israelis were always adamant about no return of refugees. and that is why the palestinians cling to what they call law of return or the right of return back. so any eviction, any new mass of palestinian refugees, for us it is a repeat of 1948. >> reporter: that fear of history repeating itself of another catastrophe as palestinians describe it is felt across the region.
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many of this person's relatives are trapped in gaza and now spends every morning calling loved ones hoping that they are still alive. >> i don't even know whether my family is going to be able to go back to their homes if they get to have homes to go back to. and of course the biggest fear is that they are going to be evacuated and turned in to refugees. they don't want to move. they would rather die in gaza than move. >> reporter: the connection felt by palestinians to their homeland is hard to overstate. at this church vigil, a poignant moment of remembrance. o jerusalem, they sing. a 1960s melody beloved across the region dedicated to holy city and the palestinian struggle. a cause which has drawn people of all faiths, of all walks of life together with a message of enduring solidarity. and look, erin, that solidarity
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certainly being felt here across the middle east as we continue to see people taking to the streets in protest against israel's continued attack on gaza. >> thank you very much. and secretary of state antony blinken says that he is hopeful that hamas will release more hostages. there were two americans freed friday of course as you know, a mother and daughter from chicago, judith and natali raanan are said to be in safe and in good health and expected to be returned to the united states very soon. perhaps as soon as tomorrow. her father saying that his daughter's birthday is tomorrow and she could be flying back home very soon. coordinator of the hostage working group dan owe 'o'shay i
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joining us now. there was a lot of speculation and reporting that maybe there were going to be more hostages, that those first two were sort of breaking the seal and at least when it came to some foreign nationals that we would have seen a few more. we didn't see that. does that signify anything to you? >> well, listen, right now these hostages now over 200, 222 as your report stated, those are the bargaining chips. this is the only card that hamas can play. and i would note the u.s. and other countries are putting pressure on netanyahu and the idf to slow down the incursion into gaza and obviously the scale and scope of what idf wants to do is root out hamas and wipe them out. that is why i don't think that -- we may see more exchanges, but i don't think that they will come in full. i think that they will be
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dragged out as long as hamas is trying to survive. >> why do you think they chose the two individuals they chose? i'm not expecting that secretary blinken would have given us an answer to that, but he said he doesn't though. so i -- he doesn't know. if you take him as hit word, what do you think the reason is for selecting that mother and daughter from chicago? >> well, the obvious is america. we can put the most pressure on netanyahu and the idf arguably because we supply a lot of the munitions and weapons systems and planes. and so the u.s. is the most strategic partner of war israel for their national defense. and so obviously that was a no-brainer that an american and/or mother/daughter would be released. and again, i have not seen reporting yet on what the breakdown is. i'm sure those numbers are out there. but these hostages again, they are going to be used as
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bargaining chips and there are other mother/daughter combinations from what we understand. but these two were chosen because they were americans more than anything else. >> slightly. and we understand that there would be at least eight more americans, but that is just from the numbers that we have thus far. but obviously a small part overall of the 222 while there are plenty of foreign nationals, vast majority of course are israeli. but we did see overnight, yesterday, there was actually the first clashes between hamas and israeli special forces in gaza. so when netanyahu said soon you will see the inside of gaza, special forces have been in there. we know they were in there at least once and then a second time yesterday that resulted in a clash and one idf being killed. do you think it is possible -- i would imagine they are trying, but what do you think the possibility is of some sort of special forces rescue being
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successful given that we do know that they are probably being held underground and in various locations? >> well, in my 20 odd years of tracking this, and i spent two years in iraq dealing with kidnapping cases and 40 plus american hostages taken, gaza presents challenges that we haven't seen anywhere except for maybe mosul after isis had taken over the city and had almost a year to put in their defenses. and hamas has had over 15 years to prepare for an idf incursion. so this will be challenging on every level. even in iraq and afghanistan, we own the air, we own the nights. we have operations all over the place. and the fact that this intelligence failure on october 7 shows a glaring weak ness in intelligence organizations within israel, so we don't though how much intelligence they have on these tunnel systems and where the hostages are located.
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so that presents an enormous challenge to any rescue mission. >> absolutely. dan o'oshay, thank you very muc. and thank you very much for that conversation. we'll get back to you soon. turning to this, not one but two plea deals from former trump attorneys in the georgia election subversion case and that means they have agreed to testify if called against their co-defendants, which of course include former president trump. plus new reports that an australian billionaire says trump told him about private phone calls with foreign leaders during his presidency. the details of those conversations, that is ahead.
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there are new reports about donald trump's handling of potentially sensitive national security information while he was in the oval office. trump allegedly shares his information about calls with the leaders of ukraine and iraq with
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anthony pratt, a member of mar-a-lago. he is also a key prosecution witness in trump's classified documents case. reports reveal that recordings of pratt who gave an interview to special counsel jack smith and in those about trump's call with iraqi's president, pratt says trump said i just bombed iraq today and the president of iraq called me up and said you just leveled my city and he said i said to him okay, what are you going to do about it. >> he also recalled trump sharing information about that infamous call with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy where trump pressured him to launch an unfounded corruption probe into joe biden saying, quote, that was not compared to what i usually do, mr. trump said, in mr. pratt's recounting. he also offers searing critiques of trump's personal ethics saying he often says outrageous things nonstop. >> and two have flipped on him. trump tried to distance himself from sydney powell writing ms.
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powell was not my attorney and never was. she pleaded guilty to six misdemeanor counts in a deal. >> and kenneth chesebro also took a plea deal pleading guilty to a felony conspiracy charge for his role in trying to overturn the 2020 election. as a part of both deals, they have agreed to testify against co-defendants including donald trump if they are called. with us now, elie honig, and sarah flack. great to have you both. i thought this was interesting. so chesebro's attorney was on cnn over the weekend and asked all about this. here is part of what he said when asked if this guilty plea implicates former president trump. listen. >> it made it his role in preparing documents that at the time he could acknowledge were false documents. he admitted to a conspiracy to
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commit the filing of false documents. but i want to be clear about something. i did not implicate anyone else. and listen, ken chesebro is not interested in defending anyone. you say is he defending trump. he's not interested in defending trump but he also didn't implicate anyone. he implicated himself. >> he didn't implicate anyone but he won't defend anyone else. >> he did implicate people because he admitted that he was part of a conspiracy which definitionally involves more than one person. and the prosecutor named off the other people that the prosecutors believe were part of the conspiracy. it may well be that chesebro is not able to say i ever spoke directly with donald trump. but by saying yes, there was this conspiracy, there was this agreement between me and others to commit a crime, that does implicate other people. but i do think that sydney powell is the bigger threat to candidate because we know that she had direct contact with donald trump. so if i was trump i'd be
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primarily worried about powell, secondarily about kenneth chesebro. >> do we know specifically what sydney powell has agreed to, how this will play out going forward? >> yeah, so we know she has pled guilty, and we also know that prior to this guilty plea she proffered with the state of georgia with fani willis and her prosecution team, what that means is that she and her attorney met behind closed doors, probably had a recorded statement or multiple statements that she gave kind of letting them know what all she knew, what documents she had. that proffer was a part of her plea deal. it probably was recorded and probably will be turned over at some point to trump and the other remaining defendants down the road. she has also been required to testify at trial and we also know that she will have to continue to cooperate with the state of georgia. again, she will be the bigger threat for donald trump because we know she was at white house meetings with him in 2020 after the election, we know she was
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standing next to him at a press conference where he is talking about this election. and so she is going to be the bigger issue for donald trump and probably directly will implicate him in her statement at trial. >> and in fact if you look at this, this is trump in 2020 announcing his legal team. and he says i hook forward to giuliani spearheading the efforts, et cetera, et cetera, and he names a bunch of lawyers and it includes sydney powell. he wrote it and he posted it. >> let the distancing begin. we've seen this routine before. this is something donald trump does anytime somebody flips on him. i barely knew the guy. he tried it with michael cohen. he didn't invent this tactic. whenever someone flips, they say barely knew the guy. to me the question is has sydney powell come fully clean.
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it is one thing that she says yes, i'm guilty of these misdemeanors, we accessed the information of voting machines. and also these states i made about election fraud, they were lies, we knew they were lies, part of the big plan to steal the election. but if she is only going to admit, yes, i was part of the plan but the statements i made i had a basis for and we were still investigating and nothing wrong with that, then she is of limited value. >> do you think fani willis would have given her this deal if in the proffer she only went that far? >> if these were the feds you would only take complete cooperation. state prosecutors tend to differ. what makes me wonder a bit about fani willis deals, she charged sydney powell with racketeering but took a much, much smaller plea. and so that gives me a question here. >> and to that point, the i don't know her defense aside, what he ellie is saying there, t is your read on what this actually means? >> i think that d.a. fani willis
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is very smart particularly when it comes to these rico charges. she's built a career on these kinds of charges. so i don't believe that she would allow her to plead such a central role in the legal team to lallow her to plead without full cooperation. and i imagine there is probably multiple meetings where she's gone in detail about what she knew and has provided information probably even direct communications with candidate. fani willis would not give a plea deal like this to sydney powell without knowing for sure she will testify favorably and implicate the president. >> thank you very much, great to have you both. and synagogue president in detroit found stabbed to death outside her home. what police are saying now about the evidence. and also the timing of any ground incursion into gaza is still to be determined. cnn is on the israel border with an eye on the movement of troops. >> the question is where have all the tanks gone.
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the war is leading to protests here in the united states. more than 300 jewish activists were arrest order capitol hill after demonstrations protesting the war. they are calling on president biden and others to stop providing aid to israel. more than 1,000 rallied in brooklyn, new york waving flags and signs. and two pro palestinian
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demonstrations in skokie, illinois ended under night with at least two people arrested. also this morning detroit police are sharing new details about a synagogue president stabbed to death. there is no evidence that it was motivated by anti-semitism, but family and friends remembered her push for peace. >> you were my older sister. you ca taught me, you protected me, you loved me with all your heart. you so deeply wanted peace for this world. you fought for everyone regardless of who they were or where they came from. you are the definition of a leader. >> omar jimenez is joining us live from outside detroit. such a jarring attack in its brutality. what more you can tell u-- can tell us about the investigation?
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>> reporter: i think the headline makes people want to jump to conclusions immediately and that is what detroit police are cautioning against right notice, the chief james white emphasized that the investigation into the death of miss samantha woll remains ongoing. at this time however no evidence has surfaced suggesting that this crime was motivated by anti-semitism. but they also didn't include in that statement that they ruled it out. highlighting sort of where we are in this investigation and some of the questions still linger in this community. she was president of the downtown detroit synagogue behind me, 40 years old, found stabbed to death outside of her home. police followed a trail of blood to her home which is why they believe this killing took place, but they don't have any specific as we understand at this point and they are still looking into what led to this killing. regardless of how it happened, it happened. and those who knew her best remembered her in a memorial
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including the michigan attorney general who worked with woll during the attorney general's re-election campaign. take a listen. >> sam did more for our community, our state, our world, our lives in her short time here on earth than most will ever accomplish in 1,000 lifetimes over. and her killer will not rob us of the moerm of her joy and warmth and kindness that she leaves behind. >> reporter: another state senator spoke how she was just with woll at a wedding the night before her body was found. and investigators continue to push toward why. >> omar jimenez, keep us posted. thank you. and "cnn this morning" continues right now.
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