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>> hello and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world, as we continue our coverage of israel at war. i am rosemary church. 16 days after hamas abducted more than 200 people from israel in a deadly attack the gaza based militant group has released two more women from captivity. the hostages identified as israeli citizens nurit cooper and yochi lifshitz, were handed over to the red cross at the rafah border crossing into egypt. they were carried away into ambulances and taken to a medical center in israel to be
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reunited with their families. earlier, the daughter of lifshitz told cnn she was relieved her mother has been released, but noted that her father is still being held by hamas along with many other people. >> this is not a political issue, this is a humane issue. we have lost so many people are going to funerals every day. this is a ray of light, when there is so much darkness. i cannot wait to hug my mom and see other members of my community and the region also loving their loved ones. >> given the large number of hostages remaining in gaza it was officials say the u.s. is urging israel to delay a potential ground incursion against hamas. the israeli defense minister has urged troops to be ready for such an operation.
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>> translator: keep preparing for operation. it will come soon. we are preparing thoroughly for the next step, a multilateral operation in the air, ground, and see. do your work, get ready, we will need to. >> israel has been bombarding gaza almost nonstop for the past two weeks. it is also preventing fuel from getting into the territory arguing it will be taken by hamas, but, in recent days, at least three aid convoys have been allowed to enter the enclave. journalist elliott gotkine is with us now from london. good to see you, elliott. so, two more hostages freed monday. can we expect to see more of this while the ground incursion appears to be on hold, at least for now? >> rosemary, the assumption is there will be more hostages released. as you say, more than 200, i think there were 222 before the release of these two elderly israeli women who were released
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yesterday. negotiations, attempts to try to get more of those hostages that were abducted by hamas on october the 7th are still ongoing and we know that this is being worked on by the qataris who, of course, host some of the political leadership of hamas in doha. it is being worked on by the egyptians, as well. it was interesting to see prime minister benjamin netanyahu putting out a statement thanking the red cross and thanking the egyptians, but pointedly not thanking the qataris, although they are known to be very involved in trying to secure the release of these hostages. and it complicates israel's plans for a ground invasion in a couple of ways. of course, by waiting, that may enable the release of more hostages, but even, if and when the israelis to go in on the ground, complicated matters further is because they are going to be in there on the ground fighting. they obviously won't want to cause any harm themselves to the israeli hostages or to provoke hamas to kill any of
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the hostages. so there is a lot of concerns, there is a hope that having released now for women that hamas will release more of the civilians that they abducted on october the 7th. negotiations are ongoing with the red cross, with the qataris, with the egyptians, with hamas, to try to secure their release and, obviously, we are keeping an eye on that to see what can happen. and we may even get some word from the women that have been released about others who are still being held, including, of course, their husbands. rosemary? >> and elliott the idf says it has struck multiple -- what we are learning both new strikes on the border with lebanon? >> rosemary, this is a continuation of this simmering conflict that is happening on the northern border. it is not a complete northern front yet, but israel has said that every time hezbollah
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strikes inside israel with anti tank missiles, or whatever, it will retaliate. on occasions it is also carrying out preemptive strikes to prevent hezbollah militants from firing on them. they, of course, are backed by iran and israel is very mindful that hezbollah as a much bigger arsenal, much more accurate arsenal of missiles that could used to fire at israeli cities. it doesn't want northern front, and the lebanese are also concerned, not only are they dealing with their economic crisis right now, but israel has said that lebanon will, effectively, the obliterated if they are, if hezbollah opens up another front on the north. at the same, time as that was going on to the north, it may also be one of the reasons why israel is laying its ground incursion. we know that israel carried out, according to the idea, of some 400 strikes on hamas targets inside the gaza strip. and that would seem to be a new record since it started, that
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bombing campaign of hamas targets in the gaza strip since that terrorist attack of hamas on october the 7th. rosemary? >> our thanks to elliott gotkine for that live report from london, we appreciate it. palestinian officials say that israeli airstrikes have intensified in the last 24 hours. the palestinian ministry of interior says overnight strikes monday in the south killed at least 28 people and injured dozens of others. aid groups are warning that all the chaos and destruction is taking a toll on gazis over worked hospitals. doctors say the situation is dire as hundreds of injured gazans come in needing treatment amid the unrelenting attacks. >> about -- supply, we have running supply, iv, antibiotics, some of, oh my
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god. i can't continue talking. i want to go to a safe place now. it is terrifying here in the past few days. it is more, more scary. it is a scary situation. >> in the meantime a third convoy of humanitarian assistance arrived in gaza on monday. the united nations says 20 trucks crossed into the sieged enclave carrying water, food, and medicine, the deliveries once again did not include desperately needed fuel. israel says it will not allow fuel into gaza out of suspicions that hamas will seize it and use it for weapons, rather than critical civilian needs. joining me now from remillard in the west bank is a causes. she is regional gender coordinator at oxfam international. thank you so much for talking
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with us. >> thank you for having me. >> so, doctors in gaza are warning of a dire situation of hospitals and the u.n. is concerned that not enough humanitarian aid is entering the territory, particularly fuel that, of course, is needed to run hospital generators. israel says that is because hamas would steal it. what is your reaction to that? >> in fact, fuel is needed for humanitarian needs. we know that there are so many needs, not only in hospitals, we are talking about water desalination plants, three of them, we are talking about sewage plants, we are talking about electricity needs. there are so much need for -- bakeries that have been bombed by israel in the past couple of weeks where we would desperately need bread and access to food. so all of these humanitarian and civilian use of fuel is
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immediate and urgent. saving lives, it is not only something that is needed for hospitals. the hospital, yesterday, ran out of fuel and estimated that only in 48 hours all hospitals in gaza will run out of fuel. so it is -- humanitarian and a civilian. >> so how would you describe the humanitarian situation in gaza right now? >> it is not only disastrous, it is beyond disastrous. basically we are keeping an eye on the number of people killed and injured last night, alone, 110 people were killed in airstrikes on gaza. however, there are so many millions actually, 2.2 million lives are still at risk because of other things, including access to water, food, basic needs, and medications, other things. so it is nothing that oxfam has
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seen before in any of its humanitarian interventions globally. it is disastrous, it is urgent, and that is why we think that humanitarian aid in the form of 20 trucks, even if it is 20 trucks a day, so far it is less than 8% of the needs of one day because before this last war, 500 trucks used to enter gaza daily. and now we are talking about 50 to 60. this is far beyond the urgent needs of people. all of the infrastructure that has been destroyed, so water, solar panels, any other infrastructure that used to sustain the life of people. this means that the situation needs to, the escalation needs to start immediately and cease-fire should be now, actually. there is no way that there is no cease-fire because any
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humanitarian actors, including our colleagues and partners in gaza, cannot function without that. so cease-fire now immediately and open humanitarian corridor, which allows as many humanitarian aid to come as soon as possible is a must. otherwise we are talking about tens of thousands of people who will die. >> thank you so much for talking with us, we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and, coming up, the family of a young american israeli man kidnapped by hamas is speaking to cnn. they share their hopes for their son and their calls for an urgent international response. we'll be back with that and more in just a moment.
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>> french president emmanuel macron has arrived in israel for a visit meant to show solidarity with the country. a source says he will discuss a two-state solution with officials, including prime minister benjamin netanyahu. and it is also likely he will meet with the palestinian authority president. now, we are going to bring you the story now of one american israeli victim of the hamas attack two weeks ago. now these are photos of hersh goldberg poland, he's believed to be a hostage in gaza. cnn's anderson cooper interviewed his parents last
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week on live tv. they told anderson that hersch arm had been partially blown all by hamas gunman who threw grenades into a bomb shelter where he was hiding. anderson realized he had seen video of their son and had it on his phone. he waited until after the live interview to tell the couple about it. and they just spoke with anderson again, they say they want the world to see what hamas has done to their son. a warning, the video you are about to see is extremely graphic. >> [speaking in a non-english language] >> god is great the gunmen showed, recording on his phone. [speaking in a non-english language] >> he checks a cart, looking for anyone else hiding. other gunmen shout as they bring survivors from the shelter. come, come they'll. load them. that is harsh on the right,
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with another hostage. his left hand and part of his arm is blown off, the bone sticks out. the other hostage appears wounded as well another wounded hostage is dragged by his hair, and tossed into the truck. a fourth man is thrown on top of them. when i had sent the video to you, what was your initial? >> first of all, it is a crazy sequence of events that we talk to you through a computer screen, and then get a phone call from you, saying, i have a video of your son. >> i didn't want to say on live television. >> which we so appreciate. >> of course. >> the way everything that has unfolded, the gentleness that you used, at the end of the day you are a journalist and
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journalists want a story. and that could have been dealt with in many other ways, that we're not kind and gentle. >> first seeing that video, in general gave us a note of optimism. as horrible as it is as a parent, to see your kid under gunpoint, being pushed, with one arm. the composure with which he is walking on his own, holding himself with his one weak hand, he's a lefty, his left arm was blown off. holding himself seeing him gave me a dose of strength. him and during a horrible situation, and he is doing it with composure. >> we are seeing that he walked out calmly, but i think it was from shock. >> they have this photo taken inside the shelter, before hamas gunman threw grenades inside. rachel says as many as 29 people were crammed together. that is hirschhorn, that is his friend shapiro. >> hersh and his friend went to the festival together, they have known each other since they were kids.
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honor was by the door, and honor by everyone's account who we spoke to, as they were throwing in grenades he would keep picking them up and throwing them out. picking them up and throwing them out. the witnesses say that 11 grenades were thrown, and he threw out eight. >> eight people survived, and avoid a capture and hid under the blown of bodies of the dead, ownership hero didn't make it out alive. >> his parents came to her house on friday, and i'm, the people who are identifying bodies actually let them know, that they identified him with dna. in his hand he was holding a grenade. his dead body had a grenade in a, in his hand. >> that's incredible. >> he is the real hero. those eight people, and even the people who walked out and are now in gaza, it is because of honor. >> how are you able to get through each day? >> i personally feel like, we have to keep running to the end of the earth, to save him.
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we have to try to go, believing that somehow, he got treatment and he is there. he is in pain, and he is suffering, but he is alive, and he is there. and there are also the moments in this universe that we now live, where you say maybe he died on that truck. maybe he blood out on that chalk. maybe he died yesterday. maybe he died five minutes ago. and then there are those moments where you think, how are these thoughts are -- i don't understand the thoughts. but they are real thoughts. >> they often go down to see their sons room.
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>> this is her rushes room? >> this is hirsch's room. it's a steel door because it's, safer. >> you can feel him here close his globe, his books, his mementos are all just as he left. i'm rachel did make his bed, she wants it ready for when he returns. >> we have a porch that faces so, and i've been screaming to him and hoping. friday night we bless our children traditionally, traditionally bless your children on friday night so at the screen towards the traditional blessing. so i was screaming the blessing to him. and i put my hands on his head when he is home. >> what does the blessing say? >> he's it says up may god bless you and keep you, may god's face shine upon you, mayor your countenance be lifted up towards you and give you peace. so, -- >> what do you want people to know about hersh? >> he is a super curious kid, and this wonder lost that he developed when he was six or seven years old, has been his
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life obsession. always asking for maps, and globes, and atlas is for his bar mitzvah. really these last few years, he has saved every penny to go on this trip, that he has a ticket for on december 27. he was going to go to india, and then all points east. >> rachel and john were just on the cover of time magazine, they're trying to get the world to pay attention to the plight of the hostages. particularly those like her to have serious wounds or issues. >> as american israelis we have been embraced by the u.s. government. the support is there, the empathy is there from the u.s.. we are obviously hungering for more than that, we want action, we want results. there are hostages from somewhere around 30 countries. why have we not seen prime ministers, foreign ministers, global leaders screaming to get the wounded help? >> rachel also got to be on a call with other american families, and president biden. >> he stayed for 90 minutes, he listened to us, he cried with us. >> i know laws, i have lost two
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children, i've lost my wife, and i am telling you that you need to go through this. but you also need to remember, that you will be strong again for your family. and he said things that because he knows laws, so it was not platitudes, it was someone speaking who has lost children speaking to someone who has lost her two children, it was a real moment of coming to gather just as people. who knows what pain is. you know, this very excruciating, part of pain. >> this is a particular kind of pain. >> correct there is no playbook for this, that we know of, of the game daily is he alive? is he getting treatment?
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did he die 15 days ago? we are on the head of a pan. every direction you fall, is a bad direction. a lot of how we get through the day, we are trying to balance on the head of the pin and just get everything done with the hope that he will come home to us. and he'll go on that trip with one hand. >> anderson cooper, cnn jerusalem. >> still to come, a cnn producer tries to evacuate gaza with his family, but had to turn back. he shows us what happened.
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>> welcome back everyone, i'm rosemary church and this is cnn newsroom. israel's military is preparing for the next phase of war. officials say idf soldiers are taking part in training exercises ahead of a potential ground incursion into gaza. all of this as conditions in the enclave get worse by the day. a doctor working at the largest hospital in gaza told cnn it will become a mass grave if they lose power. he says, in his hospital alone, there are about 150 patients on ventilators, infants in incubators, and others needing treatment. aid groups are desperately trying to get to supplies like food and medicine and gaza, but they say it is not enough to fix the problem. in recent days at least three
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aid convoys have been allowed to enter the enclave through the rafah border crossing, but those shipments did not include fuel. israel says it won't allow fuel in because a mosque will take it. we have been following the story of a cnn journalist abraham -- who is inside gaza. ibrahim and his family were hopeful they would be able to escape through the rafah crossing, only to have those hopes crushed. he and his family, including two young sons, just 11 and seven years old, evacuate northern gaza when israel told civilians to leave. they fled to the south where now they are waiting. here is the update he shared with us. [speaking in a non-english language] [speaking in a non-english language]
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>> welcome back everyone. u.s. house republicans will try again tuesday to settle on a nominee for speaker. three weeks after kevin mccarthy's historic ouster from the post. but, with eight candidates now vying for the gavel, deep divisions remain over who should be mccarthy's replacement. cnn's manu raju has the latest. >> republicans emerged from
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closed doors tonight still divided about their way forward, uncertain about whether their eventual speaker nominee can get the votes you will need on the house floor to be elected to speaker. even though we are about three weeks now since kevin mccarthy was ousted in an unprecedented fashion, the first time a sitting speaker pushed out by his colleagues and unable to act, completely paralyzed in the house because of that effort, that successfully ousted kevin mccarthy. still no closer to getting a speaker. even though they're eight candidates now in the race, everyone from republican whip tom -- and including some more junior members including byron donalds, a member of the house freedom caucus. down the line, making their -- to the caucus behind closed doors. but it emerged making it very clear that their constituents are frustrated and that they are concerned that this dysfunction could cost the house majority next november. >> does this reflect on the gop? >> how does it reflect on the
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government? >> people are angry, upset. i just got back from the district in sarasota, florida, and people very worked up down there about that. they think all of us are incapable. >> we are going to have to figure out how to get her acting together. big boys and big girls have got to quit making excuses and we've got to go get it done. >> on tuesday there will be a leadership election in which the leader will be the speaker nominee must get a majority of the conference vote. but that is different than the majority of the full vote -- house. they're tuned in 20 house republicans. in order to elected speaker you need to get 217 votes on the house floor, meaning you cannot lose more than four republican votes. at the moment, it is unclear whether any of these candidates can do just that. they can't, then it could take some time to actually get to a floor vote or we could see this stalemate persist and others talk about other avenues to try to reopen the house as this moves on to its fourth week and this paralyzed chamber, which remains uncertain on how to resolve this crisis at this moment.
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none of these candidates can get there and key issues like funding the government, aid to israel, aid to ukraine. all the action as the house remained completely stalled amid this gop leadership crisis. manu raju, cnn, capitol hill. >> larry salvanto is director of the center of politics at the university of virginia, he joins me now from charlottesville. good to have you with us. >> thank you, rosemary. >> gop members held a closed-door conference monday night. you hear speeches from each of the eight candidates for house speaker. one of the hopefuls, pete sessions of texas, called the forum productive. he thinks they can get this done as they try to select the third candidate to succeed kevin mccarthy. the pressures the building, of course, so will likely be the next speaker? >> the front runner is tonga, amara congressman from minnesota who has the majority whip. those senior to him or either
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ousted or didn't make it 2 to 17. and so he is next in line, but, of course, we thought this would be resolved by now. it has been going on for 20 days, going on 21. it will almost certainly go on for at least another few days. it is a tremendous embarrassment to the republicans and, frankly, to the country in a global sense. >> you mentioned tom emmer. he is the front runner, but he is not a favorite of donald trump, is he? at this point, though, could that help or hinder him because we are hearing that the former president is going to stay out of this race after backing the loser jim jordan? >> well, not just what he says. i don't think too many people rely on what donald trump says one day applying to the next day, so we will see whether he really stays out. but, yes, he is not a favorite of tom emmer, and tom emmer is not a favor of his.
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but they are both pretending otherwise, particularly amara for trump. whether that affects people in the end, i don't know. trump has caused so many problems for the house republicans that it is possible that one off of them will realize they need to move on. >> of course, the winning candidate will need 15% plus one of the conference, or a minimum of 113 votes. but we won't know when this goes to the floor of our vote until a nominee is selected who can then actually decide that. in the meantime, the house remains paralyzed nearly three weeks into this chaos as a government shutdown looms, and two wars are raging, one at least, the other in ukraine. what happens if the gop can't get this done this week? >> it is a disaster for them. it is just a giant clown car and it has gone on so long it is going to be an issue in 2024. it might even cost them the house. and most people say, oh, that is so far in the future this won't really apply.
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i think it has made a real impact on enough people in swing districts, like the ones in new york, or california, that are usually democratic but went narrowly to the republicans in 2022. that is the real danger for republicans, that people are going to remember this and take the house away from them in november 2024. >> it's interesting you say that because a lot of the time people don't remember these things, but do you think, because this has dragged on to such an extent, that that is the case? >> yes, it is just a caricature, really. you can see the clowns getting out of the car, one right after the other, and going into the conference. you know, everyone understands that a group of high powered politicians aren't going to agree all the time, but this has really been a parody of what a party conference is supposed to be about. so i think people will remember, or it now people in key districts will remember. so that with the nudging of tv
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ads put on by democrats they will probably put -- take it out on the republicans and that's what elections are. for >> meantime, matt gaetz and his gang of far-right bodies are responsible for a sub doing this chaos in motion by ousting kevin mccarthy without even having a plan in place to fill that leadership vacuum. how much longer do you think republicans can tolerate this gang of eight and what options are available to appropriately deal with them, do you think? >> well, their committee assignments can always be adjusted by the new speaker, but probably, once somebody finally gets to be speaker, a full-time sneaker, not a pro tim speaker, a temporary speaker, they will probably want to move on if they can. now it's possible that matt gaetz and some of his allies will simply take out after the new speaker once something happens they don't like. but, as you mentioned, they are being called the crazy eight
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and there are some other lunatics that aren't included in the crazy eight. you've got quite a group there in the republican conference. so,. at some point, it is up to the voters and it's up to the voters either to change the house democrats or, may be, surprise us and defeat some of these crazy eights in the republican primaries. that is the way to deal with it. we will see whether they can. >> we will be looking out at the coming hours. larry salvator, let's see if this gets resolved. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you so much, rosemary. >> an off-duty pilot is facing 83 counts of attempted murder after allegedly trying to shut off the engines of an alaska airlines flight sunday. the flight crew subdued the off-duty pilot, joseph the emerson, who is flying in a cockpit junk seat. alaska airlines say he tried to activate fire extinguishers that would cut off fuel to the
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engines. the flight was bound for san francisco from everett, washington. the crew diverted the plane to portland, oregon, or emerson was arrested. a law enforcement sources say authorities do not believe there are any links to terrorism or ideologically motivated violence. still to come, cnn visits and israeli kibbutz ravaged by hamas. we will have reaction from the man who say his own for the first time after losing most of his family to those attacks.
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lives of the people who live there. cnn's kaitlan collins visited coutts -- and spoke with a man seeing's childhood home for the first time after most of his family were murdered in this surprise attacks. the report you're about to see contains graphic video and maybe difficult to watch. >> kibbutz kissufim is less than three miles away from the gaza border. a quiet community where they raise avocado heights and poultry. as the sun rose on saturday october 7th, the kibbutz the 300 people called home became the site of a massacre. as hamas militants stormed inside and murdered -- and kidnapped others. a reservist in israel defense forces watched from home as the brutal attack unfolded that day. now he is leading a small group of foreign press into the kibbutz for the first time. wanting the world to bear
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witness to the atrocities firsthand. >> it's still hard to absorb. >> the stench of death is still thick in the air as you walk along the tree lined streets. if he did not look too closely you would never have guessed that a slaughter took place here. then you noticed the bullet hole in -- door. the 90-year-old grandmother who loved gardening, was in her bathroom when hamas militants shot her in the head. her blood is still smeared at the entryway, two weeks later. >> if he did not look over here, it would just look like a regular home on a saturday morning. orange juice out, newspaper, her mail, some cookies. when you look in the kitchen you can see that people have gone through it, opened all the cabinets. there are still cups in the
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sink. her kettle is still out, and gina is one of several who were brutally murdered in her kibbutz, on that saturday morning. >> the zach family lived just down the street, parents tie amity and their son soggy were at home window tack began, their older children were away. we reached 24-year-old hadar on face time. what is through their what is through that window? >> this is the first time he is able to see the charred remains of his family's home. >> the kibbutz told me found my dad laying on the ground, with my dog, just watching the doors. >> the bodies of his mother, and little brother were found hugging each other in the nearby bomb shelter, where they asphyxiated when militants set their home on fire. just days before, he was dancing is hard out of bruno mars concert in tel aviv. >> i'm 24, we have ten years between us.
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it's hard to see my little brother was like my child. >> his brother and sister are now orphans, his grief in anger is palpable. >> it is absurd to me, -- i love my it's amazing, but the government -- i have no words to describe how disappointed. >> just 24 hours later in the kissufim area, a soldier is killed and wounded during a raid ahead of the expected ground invasion in gaza. an ominous warning shots of what is yet to come. >> kaitlan collins, israel. >> young and old, soldier and civilian. a new exhibit at tel aviv university show is the many faces of the victims of the october 7th hamas attack.
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1300 seats at the campus auditorium are filled with images of the missing and the dead, notably more than 1400 people have been killed in israel. the israel defense forces say more than 200 people are held hostage in gaza and the palestinian health ministry says more than 5000 people have been killed by israel strikes on gaza. the exhibit at tel aviv university was organized by the student union as part of a wider anti-terror project. i want to thank you for joining us this hour, i am rosemary church. i'll be back with more cnn newsroom in just a moment. do stay with us.
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