freeport, which is known for ll bean, the big mail order company. ll bean never closes. they have no locks on their doors. they close one time for the funeral of the founder. it closed yesterday. that is unheard of. businesses, banks, shopping centers, schools, colleges, they're all closed. the highways are absolutely -- it is like a ghost town on the highways. nobody is coming out, everybody is fearful. it is really a shock to our system. this is not the way maine is. >> all right, ken, thank you very much for that perspective. i hadn't thought about the bean store. i've been there many times in my life and that is a remarkable point that underscores just how devastating this has been for everyone. i really appreciate your time, sir. and thanks to all of you as well for joining us. i am kasie hunt. we're going to have much more on the manhunt coming up

good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow with phil mattingly in new york. this morning, that desperate manhunt continues for a mass shooter in maine nearly 35 hours after the shooting rampage that left 18 people dead at a bowling alley and a bar and grill. 80 fbi agents have joined the hunt for the suspect robert card, and the coast gafrd is also helping search by air and sea after his car was found at a boat launch. >> we saw s.w.a.t. teams converge on his last known address. they spotlighted the house and got on to a mega phone to say come out with your hands out, but apparently nobody was inside. they will be back in the neighborhood today. there's a key theory that is emerging. law enforcement sources telling cnn he recently broke up with his girlfriend, the bowl ing alley and the bar were two places they liked to frequent. she was signed up to play in a

tu tournament the same night of the shooting. >> we have some of the names of the victims to share. these are six of the victims' names. joseph walker was the manager at the bar and grill. his dad says he tried to stop the gunman with a knife. >> he picked up a butcher knife and went after the gunman to try to stop him from killing other people. that's when he lost my son to death trying to save some more lives. he ended up losing his life. >> his son clearly a hero. he will join us later in the program. omar jimenez starts our coverage. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, we're about as close to the bowling alley as police are allowing us to get. that's where seven people were

found dead. this is where 40-year-old robert card first began shooting before minutes later making his way to the bar and grill. that said, the son is getting ready to rise on a second day with the main suspect in both of these mass shootings still on the loose. lewiston mayor and emergency alerts are telling residents to shelter in place for a second day. when it comes to the search itself, they are expected to pick it back up in the boeden area east of here searching through some of his known addresses. he was outside of his last known address that many people were all paying attention to increased police activity there. they had a spotlight on the house. they were saying over the speakers to come out with your hands out. state police say that was essentially standard search warrant procedure. they did not find him there. they did find a vehicle

associated with the suspect elsewhere. they found a gun inside the unclear if that gun was the one used in the shootings. and that vehicle was found at a boat launch. it's part of why you mentioned the variety of sources that are helping search here. it's part of why the coast guard is assisting with the search by air and by water just to make sure they have all of their bases covered. we're a long way from finalizing any motive, but the working theory as sources told john miller is the suspect recently broke up with his girlfriend, and that part of why these two places were targeted were polices they used to frequent. but it's all part of an investigation that is happening at the same time as a critical manhunt. when will this person be caught. >> some sense or theories r related to the motive, we had some toplines yesterday about who the suspect actually is. what do we know about him at this point? >> reporter: we knew he was an

army reservist. we later learn ed in july he wa referred to essentially a local hospital because he had been acting erratically. that said, family members of his and former coworkers said that they don't know he had any long-term history of mental health issues, at least that they knew of. but also take a listen to one of his neighbors when asked about some of that history as well. >> just didn't seem like that kind of individual. you don't expect them to go off the deep end like that. i was shocked. >> reporter: it was a shock to the kmuntd as well. one that they are still continuing to live through as many continue to recover in the hospital, hoping their conditions improve.

>> omar jimenez, keep us posted. thank you. tips from the public are crucial in a search like this one. the chief of police spoke about that yesterday. >> we had everything from people calling about noises in basement, noises in the woods, suspicious people, gunshots, all night long since the incident in lewiston. we have our whole department working. i encourage everybody to call if they see something suspicious. >> join ing us now is the bosto police chiefer during the marathon bombing. we appreciate your time. it was a tip from the public that helped track down the suspect at the end. he was in a boat, you believe. for all of the tools in the tool kit that law enforcement has right now, how critical is public help? >> good morning, phil. it's very critical. often times in cases like this, it will be one single call that

leads to discovering and apprehending the suspect. that's really what we're hoping for here. but you also have to remember that there will be hundreds, sometimes thousands of opportunities that will be coming in to the police department, to the command post. those tips have to be managed. you don't know which one is the right one. so it's a very sophisticated process that needs to be put in place to manage those tips, and to make sure that each one of them is grrun to ground so you don't miss something. >> commissioner davis, i will never forget the feeling of boston when you put it on lockdown in those final days and hours leading to him. what was also different being there covering that to this is that was the city. and everyone was staying inside to help you guys try to locate him. this is a really rural area, very wooded. can you just talk about how that's different than what your teams were going through? >> it is a significant

difference. the teams will be operating in the same fashion. they will establish a grid. they will put a prerimeter on te outside and slowly collapse that perimeter as they are searching. at the same time that's happening, tips will be followed up in different places as ta come in. so there will be teams going out to different locations. but the fundamental difference here is that if this guy gets into the woods, he has an advantage. he's there first. he knows where he's going to be and it's a very difficult situation for the officers who is are up there. the fish and game wards, they are going to be crucial to this if this guy is in the woods. >> to that point, if given what we have seen, you can see what we're showing on the ground, what's the most critical component, if it he's in the woods at this point?

>> well, clearly, the use of technology is going to be vital. so using night vision equipment, if they are operating in the dark, but i think the most crucial thing, and we saw this play out in pennsylvania. the use of thermal imaging from aircraft and helicopters up above. the aircraft can get pretty high and still focus on an area. the suspect might not know they are there. and then he won't be able to take measures to conceal himself. there are ways you can beat that technology. he probably knows them being in the military. but if you get up high enough and doesn't know it's there, they might be able to find them. that makes it easier for the officers. they have a point to advance on without just tripping across somebody, which can happen. >> that was crucial in them finf finding danelo cavalcante.

we'll continue our coverage for this ongoing manhunt for the suspect is accused of murdering 18 people in maine. we're also following the breaking news in the middle east. the pentagon says the united states has carried out two airstrikes against the fults linked to iranian-backed militias in syria. >> for a second night, the idf conducted targeted raids inside gaza. the humanitarian crisis is only growing worse inside. we're live, ahead.

this breaking overnight. the u.s. unleashing airstrikes on two facilities linked to ira iranian-backed militias. fighter jets used munitions to targeted a weapons and ammunitions storage facility. it comes after a series of drone and rocket attacks against u.s. forces in the region. let's bring in our anchor and chief national security analyst jim sciutto and military analyst cedrick lee joins us from washington. j jim, those drone attacks, minor injuries, but 21 u.s. service members. the u.s. is going to have to respond in some way. what do you make of what they chose to do in this moment? >> reporter: it's notable. i should note where i'm nou. i syria is just behind me. it's a reminder when you get into the northern parts of israel, you have lebanon with hezbollah directly to the north.

when you look to the east, you have iranian-backed militias in syria. what was notable to me in lloyd austin's statement was that these attacks were targeting a facility that had not just iran-backed militias, but also is known to be a base for iran revolutionary guard core. so specifically, iranian personnel, not clear if they were there at the time, but this is a bases that's been used by them. so you can look at this strike as a direct u.s. strike on iranian forces in the region. and that's significant because as lloyd austin said in explaining these strike, they looked a at those attacks on u.s. forces, not just in syria, but also in iraq, as iran threatening u.s. personnel in the region. and austin was very specific saying the u.s. will protect its forces and it will respond accordingly when they see iran and others target those forces directly. it just gets to something we have been talking about

frequently the last several weeks, the tinderbox that this region is. you have multiple players. it's not just israel and hamas. you have u.s. forces here. you have iran-backed forces here. and that provides the elements at least for potential escalation. these strikes in that broader background are significant. >> to that point, is there a redline, is there a threshold here? you talk about narrowly tailored. this is from the statement, but going after facilities for higher d.c. troops actually are, do they know? is there an understanding this is not escalatory. how does this work? >> reporter: narrowly tailored is in the eyes of the beholder, you might say. for instance, those iranian strikes, while they didn't say fire a missile at a u.s. warship in the mediterranean, that would be quite direct, but these are

militias and forces known to be backed by iran that threaten the lives of u.s. forces. 21 injuries, minor injuries, but if a rocket lands 10 feet closer in one direction, those minor injuries can become fatal. there's a u.s. contractor in one of those bases that died of cardiac arrest while sheltering from those attacks. so those redlines are blurry. that's what provides the danger of further escalation. >> i thought it was interesting in lloyd austin's remarks he made clear to separate this from the war between israel and hamas, talking about this as self-defense, a response to what these iran-backed militias did. why does that matter in this moemt? >> it really matters because what you're dealing with here is the need for the united states not to get involved in the situation between hamas and israel. and this is a clear delineation

it's a force protection issue for the united states and as jim and you have outlined, it's very clear that what we're trying to do here is maintain a presence in the middle east and go afterist skpis other terrorist groups, but not get involved in anything related to gaza, at least not directly. so that really is what we're dealing with is an issue where the united states is trying to make it very clear to the o ooinens they should not be attacking u.s. forces in any way or any form. that's the kind of things that the defense secretary was trying to say. >> colonel lei ton, te tenderness has been critical. should we expect proxies to it fire back and this to continue? >> wherever there's a presence

of u.s. force, that would be a key indicator that the iranians are trying to up the ante in this case. but in the bigger picture, what we have to look at is how iran is going to respond in other areas, not just in places like syria and iraq, but also in the persian gulf. that really will matter in terms of force protection for the naval assets that we have there, for the air assets that are in that region, and it will also matter in terms of international shipping and things like that. it's going to be really important for us to keep a lid on this and hopefully this is a message that they will do that. >> jim sciutto, colonel leighton, thank you. president biden has a democrat primary challenger. how dean phillips could impact the 2024 race. that's ahead. also congressman and veteran who lives in lewiston, maine, changing his stance on assault weapons.

new overnight, israeli defense forces conducted targeted raids inside of gaza. this video published by the idf shows tanks and armored vehicles moving on a road near farmland

as well as strikes on buildings and open areas. it also involved aircraft and artillery strikes targeting hamas infrastructure including anti-tank missile launch sites and military command and control centers. it comes a day after israeli forces went into gaza. the idf says the raids will continue as they prepare for the next stages of this war. >> it continues raining into the gaza strip. it's to prepare their grounds to make sure the explosives are not waiting for us. the raids are going to continue tonight and the next days. >> this is day two in a row of them going in on the ground operating and then coming out. is this the beginning of what benjamin netanyahu has been talking about, going in on the ground? does it necessarily set up a one large incursion or not? >> that's the big question.

we're in day 2021 of this war. unrelenting airstrikes. there's been also attacks by the water. israel says special forces have gone in, but over the past two nights, two very significant ground incursions involving tanks and real troops have gone in. they have come back out, but these have been very significant raids. they do say they attacked more than 250 targets in these strikes overnight. they are saying they have taken out three of the top commanders of the most significant hamas brigade involved in this october 7th terror attack. so they are being very clear about that. i will say the defense minister earlier this morning in public comments was still clear to say this is set ting the stage for n all-out i object vags. they are still using that verbiage, which is obviously significant. but the reality of it is what they have been doing already day in and day out has been unrelenting.

even before you came to us, we continue to hear those thuds. there's no break in constant air assault on gaza and they are going in on the ground now as well overnight. >> there's been so much happening that it was easy to min miss one of most striking moments. he was dismissive when it came to trusting death toll figures released by the ministry of health in gaza. take a listen. >> i have no notion that palestinians are telling the truth. i'm sure they have been killed. and i have no confidence in the number that the palestinians are using. >> the ministry of health is now responding with a list of those that are dead. why is this so difficult to confirm? >> they have come out with a list of names they are putting out there, i.d. cards. the reality of it is it's

impossible to confirm. it's a hamas-controlled health ministry. so by definition, you cannot trust the vet ross tu of those numbers. that's very significant. but the reality of it is, there's taet. innocent people are dying, talking to people in gaza, we do know people are writing their children's names on their bodies in case they are killed. the reality of it is, there's a horrific loss of innocent life. there was a horrific loss on october 7th. but that's the reality. i would emphasize that part of the issue here is we're not able to confirm those numbers. when israel fwoez in with these raids, the video is put out by the idf. it's not put out by us. and that's one of the biggest challenges in covering this war is the limited ability to see certain crucial things. but when it comes to a death toll, all that we can say is that people are dying. some innocent people are dying. and it is a horrible and significant loss for every single family involved.

that's one thing nobody can deny. that's the reality. we shouldn't get lost in whether the number is x versus y. that misses the point. >> it does. thank you very much for that reporting. we'll get back to you soon. we are also going to maine and the victims. we're learning more of them. we're learning their names. coming up, we'll hear from those who lolove them.

a close knit town is reel ing after the deadliest mass shooting this year. we're learning the names of two more victims. bill young and his 14-year-old son were both killed and a third was also killed. his father said mikal and his friend were killed while attempting to charge at the shooter. the gunman opened fire killing

18 people wednesday night. now we're learn ing new details about the beloved father, sons, friends and employes whose lives have been cut short. jason carroll joins us live. these are the hardest stories to tell, and yet the most important. >> absolutely. we want to point out the strength it takes to speak out about a loved one when you're mourning and you're in shock, but we are hearing their stories, hearing the stories of bravery. the magnitude of what happened coming into focus as authorities remove the bodies of some of those who perished in the shooting at the bar and grill restaurant. police say of those who were killed, eight died at the bar, including leroy walker's son joseph. his father says his son died when he tried to stop the shooter. >> my son actually -- he's manager of the bar and everything else. picked up a butcher knife and

went after the gunman to try to stop him from killing other people. that's what he shot my son to death. tried to save some of the lives that he ended up losing his life. >> reporter: 40-year-old brian mcfarland, his sister says he was deaf and was there for regular wednesday night gathering of members of the deaf community and a corn hole tournament. his sister, who is also deaf, says his death is deeply felt for the family and the community. >> i want people to know how deep this impacted the deaf community. we have lost four friends from this tragic incident in this community. it's a huge loss. >> reporter: another tournament participant, 39-year-old peyton ross was killed. his brother confirmed to cnn he leaves behind a 2-year-old

daughter. also killed is 42-year-old father of five, arthur strot, his father confirmed his death saying they were together right before the attack. >> the crazy part is being with him minutes before it happened. ten minutes before it happened. >> reporter: minutes away from the bar, more victims and more tragedy. police say seven were killed at just in time recreation center, a bowling alley, including its manager. 34-year-old tommy conrad is survived by his 9-year-old daughter. also killed, 53-year-old trisha asselin. >> we were bowling and we heard a big bang. i wasn't sure what it was. until i heard had another shot. we just kept running and running. and i kept asking, my sister. two hours later.

somebody came out and said that she called 911. when she called 911 to save everybody, she lost her life because of it. my sister is a hero. >> a little bit more about the victim you talked about a short while ago. his father says that his son and his best friend were killed at the bowling alley apparent ly while trying to protect their wives and young children who were there. he said, quote, he wanted to make sure that their wives and several children were under cover when they charged the shooter. a lot of stories of bravery about how many of these victims tried to stop the shooter. >> thank you. we appreciate it. this mass shooting has torn apart a town and a state with some of the least restrictive gun laws in the nation. one that is often prided itself on a strong gun culture of gun rights while still being a safe

place to live. but as the editorial board for the portland press herald writes, that illusion is now shattered. ghosn is the idea that maine is unusually safe or otherwise somehow immune from the rampant disease that is gun violence and mass shooting. even in our grief, we have to ask again, why we are not doing more to keep public places safe from senseless massacre. with us this morning is congresswoman shelley, she represents the first district, which is just south of where the shootings happened. thank you for being with us this morning. the tragedy is unbearable. as you think about maine and the state you love and the people you represent, how do you move forward from this? what do you think needs change? >> thank you so much for telling this story and the wonderful people who have been lost.

this is a terrible tragedy for our state. our state is still in fear and lockdown. communities throughout the state are still worried about the shooter that's on the loose, as you heard lewiston is locked down. my district yesterday, portland public schools, you couldn't buy a cup of coffee on the commercial street because everybody was locked down. today will be another day of fear and concern. as you said, we thought of ourselves as immune, the savesist state in the nation. it's almost hunting season is. so many people own guns and use them safely. we always thought this just nothing in our state. here we are. it's bring ing us face to face with reality. >> i was struck by the "boston globe" headline gun vie invades a state of grace. that's one thing that just made maine so unique. i wond whaer you make of your fellow democrat in congress jared golden saying this yesterday. let's play it. >> i have opposed efforts to ban

deadly weapons, like the assault rifle used to carry out this crime. the time has now come for me to take responsibility for this failure. which is why i now call on the united states congress to ban assault rifles, like the one used by the sick perpetrator of this mass killing in my hometown of lewiston, maine. >> what what did you think when you heard that? >> honestly, i think that conversation is happening throughout maine. i commend my colleague for stepping forward and saying now is the time. as i said, we have a tradition of hunting culture in our state. but jared golden, our colleague in congress, knows full well. he served in the military. he knows the difference between a military assault weapon designed to kill and something you take out to go hunting and get yourself a deer. it's a very different proposition. it's always been the holy grail in maine. politicians can't talk about gun laws. it will upset everybody.

i think our day has come. i already know people are turning to us saying what are you going to do about this. how do you make sure it never happens dependent. >> to your point about things that can be done, is it time for maine to have a red flag flaw, not a yellow flag law? it makes it harder to take a gun away from someone who is not fit for one. >> absolutely. i have always been a supporter of the red flag law. i think it will be a discussion in the maine legislature about whether to dpo further, but that's only one piece of this puzzle. banning assault weapons, dealing with a massive amount of ammunition that a shooter like this had. gun registration, there's so many pieces here, background checks, i think they all have to be discussed. we all have to be aware that we cannot continue to go with the status quo that we have now. we have to take responsibility

for the public policy. it makes it easier to own a gun, to be in a situation like this and that no state is immune. >> congresswoman, thank you so much for your time this morning. >> absolutely. thank you. towns around lewiston are still under shelter in place orders as the manhunt intensifies. we'll talk to a pastor in the community next and we're looking now at protests in the west bank this morning. they come as israel says the war with hah w will be enterining a phase. ththat's aheadad.

it's been 36 hours since the first shots were fired and became a shooting rampage that killed 18 people in maine. the suspect is still on the loose. my next guest was forced to shelter in place with the people gatherered for partbible study a mile away from one of the crime scenes. joining us now is todd little

from lewiston. we appreciate your time. i want to start with the community, those that you were sheltering in place with. how are they right now? >> they are fine. we have been in contact with them talking with them on the phone, praying with them. it was actually a traumatic experience and caught everyone off guard, but the church family seems to be doing fine right now. >> it was striking a contrast with what susan collins calling this a dark day for maine. no one can disagree with. it's dark moments for the church can really be a light in the community. do you foal like it will take time for that loigt to become clear? or do you feel like people are already trying to grasp that right now? >> i feel like they are already trying to grasp that. they want to grasp for that.

nobody wants to be in the dark. the biggest deal is catching this shooter and as soon as that happens, i believe we'll be able to begin healing. >> to that point, the personal connection of faith communities is so critical. people being locked down, the uncertainty, the anxiety of an ongoing manhunt, what has that been like? >> it's been a challenge. it's triggered things in people that brings out fear and an anxiety. the longer this goes on, the more that people are dealing with that. it's a challenge. >> do you think that my colleague was just reading from a really poignant editorial, gone is the idea maine is unusually safe or immune from the rampant american disease that is gun violence and mass shooting.

that sense of safety, which has been so critical to the maine those, does that ever return? >> i think it can. i think it's going to be tricep dishes for awhile and people are going to be a little bit on edge. but maine is a resilient state. our community is very resilient. >> last one to that point. it's such a close knit community. everyone repeats that point with pride. do you know folks directly impacted from this? how are they doing? >> you know as well as can be. in a community this size, everybody is going to know somebody who was affected by this. and surely, there's a lot of grief, but it's in these times that as a faith community, we

can share jesus christ and what he does to help and bring peace in times like this. >> pastor little, our hearts and prayers are with you and the entire community. thank you. >> thank you. powerful to hear from him this morning. president biden has another democratic primary challenger. we'll tell you who it is and what this could do for the race for the white house.

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he tells cbs news he will launch his campaign taoday in new hampshire. >> are you running for president? >> i am. i have to. i think president biden has done a spectacular job for our country. but it's not about the past. this is an election about the future. i will not sit still. i will not be quiet in the faus of numbers that are so clearly saying that we're going to be facing an emergency next november. >> with us now is political commen commentator erroll lewis. it's great to have you at the table. this is not new that dean phillips has been saying that. i admire what biden has done. but he is consistently said the numbers aren't there in the polling. the age is an issue. so what do you make of him jumping in? what's it going to mean and do? >> first of all, that comment about the numbers is going to blow up in his face when we start looking at numbers that show people don't know who he

is, what he stands for or why they should vote for him. numbers cut both ways. 50 plus years in politics and national leadership by joe biden counts for a lot. it does mean something and will play out in the numbers. the fact that he's polling and has this tough question about his age and whether or not people think that's disqualifying for the president, absolutely. valid questions. is he the right person, the right messenger to bring it forward, it's hard to see how. >> talked to white house folks on a regular basis. are they concerned? >> they are just shrugging this off as we don't care. it doesn't really matter. they will say we're glad to see he's supported president biden almost 100% of the time. if you look at his voting record, here's always been behind the president. his issue comes down to the president's age. bloomberg ran a poll on the key swing state, which is the only states you need to look at and care about. and trump is leading in five of

those seven states. and all of this has to do with the deficit on the economy that there's a trust deficit with biden. so he's not just going to hit inflation and the economy, he sounds like a republican if you look at the excerpts. he's going to go hard on the white house when it comes to the southern border and crime. he's going to make a lot of noise, but the majority of the democratic party is backing biden. >> what about this really powerful statement from the democratic lawmaker in maine, who was against an assault weapons ban and then there was a mass shooting in his state and listen to what he said now. >> i have opposed a ban against assault rifles. the time has now come for me to take responsibility for this failure, which is why i now call on the united states congress to ban assault rifles like the one used by the sick perpetrator of this mass killing in my hometown

of lewiston, maine. >> you just said remarkable. >> he voted against it. this was floating around the house. it passed the house and had no chance in the senate. he was one of five democrats that voted against it. he has this centrist district and he's talking about humility in times of crisis. so it's pretty remarkable, but will it change things in congress, even if there's a congressman saying it's time to ban these assault rifles. he's not on an island when it comes to the democratic party, but changing his mind. the fact of the matter is the democrats no longer have control of the house. it's a slim majority for republicans. potentially it's going to get slimmer if you look at what's going on with mr. santos. but there's no chance there's going to be an assault weapons ban. but potentially, there could be some measures. last summer after uvalde and

buffalo, these hofbl massacres, they did move for gun safety legislation like expanding background checks, grants for red flag laws in some states and mental health. and maybe there's a package on mental health. the new speaker alluded to that last night. >> he mentioned the changes are coming from the bottom up. if you're looking for congressional action, you won't see it in the short-term, but all of the signs are there. when democrats flip control of the minnesota legislature and the michigan legislature, moms demand action. they were there in the thick of it. students demand action, every town for gun safety, march for our lives, there's been this wave of activism. it's changing minds. that statement is remarkable because this is what a change in the national consensus looks like. one legislator at a time, one law at a time, one local election at a time. >> even if we were to pass an assault weapons ban, it would

like will get struck down, just like we saw the federal judge do in california. that's the reality of our time. even if states change laws, are they going to hold? >> you mentioned the interview with mike johnson, the new speaker of the house, which is informative for a lot of people. he was asked -- and there's a lot to dig into, buts he was asked about the investigation that cnn had that revealed editorials written by johnson before the supreme court's decision. he called homosexuality unnatural and a dangerous lifestyle. we don't give passes for your choices. he was asked about this. >> i don't even remember some of them. i was a litigator called upon to defend the marriage amendments. if you remember in the early

2000s, there was over 35 states that the people went to the ballot in their respective states and amended their state constitutions to say marriage is one man, one woman. i was a defenswy c called to defend those cases in a court. when the supreme court issued the opinion, that became the law of the land. i respect the lrule of law, buti also love all people. regardless of their lifestyle choices, this is not about the people themselves. i'm a bible-believing christian. >> what do you make of the response? >> he's going to have a little bit of trouble with some of these 18 republicans that are in biden-led districts because of his remarks in the past when it comes to issues that those triktss really care about. but also the fact that had it does feel like he's trying to do a little bit of move ing to the center. someone quipped to me in washington that the speaker yon son above his door should have been a little to the right, not the center above his door. it looks like he's