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political argument. you're making essentially a political argument, which is that we have a conservative court, they're going to be stacked, they're not going to read the constitution as it's written, despite all of their protests to the contrary. they're going to feel politically about this. this is about the constitution and what it says in the document, whether the constitution matters. self-executing, those legal scholars, who wrote 120-page on this say, it doesn't require an act of congress. it does require someone who ds thes they're on the ballot to interrupt the constitution. and the insurrection applies to the january 6th events, and trump is culpable. whether or not people choose to discard the constitution for partisan political purposes, you're right, could that happen, absolutely? should it happen and is that idealistic to point out it's in the constitution? no. laws matter, the constitution matters, and an attempt to overturn our democracy matters and runs smack into the 14th amendment, which shows that folks can't hold office if they've -- >> i regret to inform you you're officially out of time.
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>> to be continued. "cnn this morning" continues right now. well, good morning, everyone. i'm phil mattingly with poppy harlow. it's 8:00 a.m. here in new york, 2:00 p.m. in gaza, where right now israel is ramping up its ground assault with tanks and infantry pushing deeper into the gaza strip. overnight, israeli forces are pushing deeper into gaza. >> heavier air strikes pound gaza as the fighting rages on the ground. iran is accusing israel of crossing red lines and the white house is warning there is a real risk of this war spreading into a wider conflict. >> and we, of course, are taking every measure necessary to protect our forces, to increase our vigilance, and to work with other countries in the region to try to keep this conflict that
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is currently in israel and gaza from spinning out into a regional conflict. the risk is real, and therefore our vigilance is high and the steps we are taking to deter that and prevent that are serious, systemic, and ongoing. >> meanwhile in gaza, the united nations' aid workers say hunger and desperation are accelerating and civil order is breaking down. a senior israeli official says his country has agreed to allowed 100 trucks with humanitarian aid to start crossing into gaza. that is just a fraction of the over 450 trucks that used to cross into gaza daily before the war. jeremy diamond starts us off this hour in southern israel. jeremy, you are actually seeing some of the damage inside of gaza. is that right? >> reporter: yeah, that's right, poppy. our photojournalist was able to get a closer look from this position where we are, at some of the damage in the
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east-northeastern most city inside of gaza, where we know that israeli troops have been operating. and you can see in some of this footage, some of the destruction to the buildings in that area. what we've also been watching over the last several hours is heavy artillery fire directed at the gaza strip. we've been seeing flares going up and smoke from the gaza strip. and what we've also been hearing over the last several hours includes drones, correlates, and heavy machine gun fire, indicating active battles between israeli troops and hamas militants inside of gaza. now, the idf told us that overnight, they killed dozens of terrorists in buildings and tunnels inside of gaza as they've been operating now. and this expanded ground operation is entering its fourth day now. over the course of the last couple of days, the idf says they struck over 600 targets in recent days, which includes weapons depots and dozens of anti-tank missile launching points. it's been interesting to watch
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the way they've been operating. we've been anticipating the possibility of an overwhelming large ground invasion with hundreds of thousands of troops going into gaza. that is not what we have seen thus far. instead, they appear to be methodically going after some of these reinforced positions that hamas fighters have prepared, in anticipation of an israeli ground offensive inside of gaza. but we are learning now that the forces are operating not only in northern gaza, northeastern gaza, which is right behind me here, but also south of gaza city. a video just came out showing an israeli tank in southern gaza city on a main road there, apparently firing on passenger vehicles, according to a palestinian free lance journalist in the city. we can actually see in the video that tank operating and appearing to fire on passenger vehicles. this is very much an ongoing, very dynamic situation and the
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idf says they'll continue work. >> it's interesting as, you listen to people like national security adviser jake sullivan talk about the very real risks of escalation, something the u.s. has moved over the course of the last several weeks to try to prevent with forced posture, with comments both publicly and privately to countries like iran, if you look around the region what's happening roight now, you will understand why that risk is considered to evaluated according to u.s. officials i've been talking to. i talked earlier in the show to jim schute on the ground near the lebanon border. over the course of the last couple of days, the idf struck lebanon and hezbollah. they fired rockets into israel. hezbollah, a better-armed, also financed organizations, by iran, is a major, major concern of potentially opening up a second front. what about syria, which is also a key player in all of this right now? well, over the course of the
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last 24 hours, the idf says it struck military infrastructure in syrian territory. u.s. base in the area was attacked in syria. no injures, no damage. what you have here is two issues. you have the syrian military itself, the idf hitting infrastructure there, you have iranian proxies based in syria that are attack u.s. troops, have done so about a half dozen or more times over the course of the last several weeks. what about russia? it's been a little bit of a silent player here? not exactly. over the weekend, we had a hamas delegation actually head into moscow to have talks with senior russian and iranian officials, where iran is also moving parts, trying to talk to their proxies, playing a huge role here. russia as well something u.s. officials are keeping an eye on. the regional allies are something that the u.s. officials have been constantly on the phone with, the president, his national security adviser, his top aides. this is also a major, major play, including the fact that saudi arabia, their defense minister is actually going to be in washington to meet with national security council, national security adviser jake
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sullivan on monday, a critical gulf region player that have to play a role in any kind of outcome that u.s. officials acknowledge. what about egypt? the president has constantly been on the phone with president el sisi, including yesterday the two leaders committed to the increase in assistance flowing into gaza beginning today, that was yesterday, and continuously, gets at a critical point, you hear from u.s. officials. their regional allies including jordan, egypt, saying, humanitarian aid has to come in. that will be critical to stopping the expansion of the war. the more it looks like a humanitarian crisis and disaster, the more regional players are going to feel like they have to get involved. regional players like jordan, one of the strongest allies of the u.s., if not the strongest in the region. now they're asking washington for another patriot air defense system. they have been players throughout behind the scenes, making it very clear the instability is real. their concern and want more weapons capabilities. poppy? >> bill, thank you. joining us now from the white house, john kirby, the national security council coordinator for strategic communications there. appreciate you being with us.
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let's start where phil left off and that warning also from jake sullivan yesterday about sort of an escalated risk that this could become a much broader war. we heard iran's president, as you know, over the weekend, saying that israel has crossed red lines, and this may force everyone to take action. cnn is reporting now, is it iranian proxies have struck at least 20 times in terms of u.s. interests in the middle east. what should iran as a result of that? more strikes than what the u.s. carried out last week in syria? >> we're certainly going to act if we have to. we have proven that we will act. and that's a strong message that iran needs to take away. we take those responsibilities seriously. and we take hour national security interests writ large very seriously in the region. why is why the president has deployed two strike groups, one will stay in the eastern med and one will go down to the gulf region. we have to make sure we send a
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signal to all actors, not just iran, but all actors, certainly iran included, that we will take our national security interests very seriously. we will protect and defend our troops, and we'll do it at a time and a manner of our choosing. >> in terms of what's happening at the united nations, diplomatic sources tell cnn the uae will seek a binding resolution from other nations on the security council and it's going to call for a, quote, immediate humanitarian pause in the fighting in gaza. there have been a number of these resolutions presented, including by the united states, will the united states vote in support of this resolution this time around after vetoing a different one? >> we have to see what the language is. i don't want to get ahead of language that we haven't seen yet or had a chance to study and analyze, and then decide whether we're going to vote on it. i will tell you, poppy, we absolutely think that the idea of humanitarian pauses, more than one, is sting that should be seriously considered. now, these would be localized,
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they would be short duration. and there may be a need for multiple of them to get humanitarian aid in, but also to see if we can't negotiate for the release of hostages, and find a way to get them out safely. it's not an idea that we opposed on the face of it, we have to see what the language is. >> here you have to see the final language. let me just read the draft language that we had as of this morning. it was, quote, an immediate humanitarian truce, and quote, further humanitarian pauses. i understand the u.s. have not supported those that have not included in the past couple of weeks the right for israel to defend itself. but if it were to include that, listen to what secretary blinken said about the importance of humanitarian pauses. >> palestinian civilians must be protected. food, water, medicine, and other essential humanitarian assistance must be able to flow into gaza. it means humanitarian pauses must be considered. >> so that would make it sound like the united states would vote in favor of a resolution like this, no? >> well, again, i don't want to
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get ahead of where we are, and i certainly won't speak for our ambassador up at the u.n. we certainly agree that the idea of humanitarian pauses should be seriously considered. again, as a chance to get aid, make sure it can get to the people who need it, but help us get hostages out. there's value there, poppy, but i don't want to get ahead of where we are in the process. >> in terms of the hostages, yes, what about the 600 americans, roughly, that are trapped inside of gaza? i thought it was really notable that told -- ojake sullivan tol our jake tapper something that is new, that hamas is making demands in order for you to get them out. what kind of demands? what nature? >> i'm going to be careful not to get too much into the diplomatic conversations that we're having right now, but jake's right, obviously. hamas is holding up people from getting out. they're the obstacle right now. we're working very, very hard with all of our partners in the region, including those who are able to have conversations with hamas, to see what we can do to break that logjam and get those
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folks out. the israelis are okay with it, the egyptians are okay with it, obviously, we have several hundred americans we want to look after, and we're working on this literally by the hour. >> no doubt you're working on it. there are americans, a family we've been speaking to, he and his wife are trapped there with his 1-year-old. and he told us last week that he got a letter, a notification from the state department, but it had no updated content in terms of a way to get out. are the demands being made by hamas, are any of them achievable at this point? should they have hope? >> we believe that there will be a way to get those americans out. we would like to do that today if we could. i don't know how close we are. we believe there's a way to do this. we just have to work at it, and we're going to continue to do that. >> i do want to ask you about what's happening here at home. specifically, john, on college campuses. jewish students at cornell university, and this is just one example, by the way, were targeted in these online threats that included threats to shoot
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jewish students, at their cultural dining hall, so that building is now closed off. a number of anti-semitic threats since the war began. what will the white house do to try to keep students safe? >> that threat is right. in 2022, there were more anti-semitic threats in this country since there have been since 2009. it's dangerous, it's unacceptable. anywhere in the world, certainly here in the united states of america. and so what we're doing is we're working very closely at a federal level with state and local authorities to be able to better identify threats to the jewish community and disrupt them before they can actually take action. we're working on that very, very hard. now, there's obviously also a rise in anti-muslim hate and activity as well. we're watching that very
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closely. but this is unacceptable. unacceptable in the united states of america in 2023. >> before you duo, john. the hamas controlled palestinian ministry of health have just released new number and they say nearly 8,000 civilians have died in gaza result of the israeli strikes. they also say, and hamas controlled, but the majority are children, women, or the elderly. i would like your response to what congresswoman pramila jayapal said yesterday, calling out what she sees as a double standard from the administration. here it was. >> the united states rightly called out russia for its siege of ukraine, rightly called out the attacks on the power infrastructure, the refusal to provide food and water and fuel to the ukrainians and we have to recognize that our credibility and our authority on the moral stage is greatly diminished if we do not also call out these --
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this siege that israel is launching on gaza. >> what is the white house's response to that, john? >> we have, since almost the very beginning, hours of this conflict, talked about the need to respect civilian life. talk about abiding by the laws of ward and urged our israeli counterparts to be careful how they conduct these operations, so that they minimize civilian casualties. hamas on the other hand, uses civilians to hide behind. they actually put the civilians out in front, rather than protecting civilians, they're putting civilians at greater danger. and i would tell you this about russia and ukraine. atrocities against the ukrainian people, that's part of putin's war aims. that's built into his strategy. look at what he did in bucca. you know, killing innocent ukrainians, that's part of their strategy inside ukraine. that is not what we're seeing from israel. i am not discounting the fact that civilians have been killed and injured. and i am absolutely not
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discounting the fact that there's a humanitarian need. we're working on this very, very hard to try to get that aid and assistance in there. but israel is not deliberately trying to kill civilians. they're going of hamas. we want to make sure they do it in a cautious, careful, deliberate way, but it is not a war aim of israel to kill innocent civilians the way it is a war aim of vladimir putin to do that in ukraine. >> john kirby, thank you for your time. new details of missed warning signs ahead of that deadly shooting rampage in maine. cnn have learned that police were sent to the gunman's home weeks ago in concerns that he would, quote, snap and commit a mass shooting. and it was a deadly weekend across the united states with multiple shootings reported at different halloween parties. we have those details, next.
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welcome back. cnn has new reporting that reveals police were asked to check in on the mass shooter in maine, robert card, just weeks before the attacks last wednesday in lewiston. this came after a fellow national guardsmen express concern that he would, quote, snap and commit a mass shooting. card was found dead friday from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. his body was discovered inside of a box trailer belonging to a recycling facility that he had recently been fired from. shimon joins us line from portland, maine, with this reporting. i was so struck when your reporting crossed reading it, that there seemed to be multiple warning signs in weeks, weeks ago. >> reporter: weeks ago. and really, poppy, what this now raises, of course, if the officers here, the sheriff's officers who were investigating these threats, had they intervened sooner, could this have been prevented? just weeks before he went on a
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rampage killing 18 people, the maine national guard asked local authorities to initiate a wellness check on robert card. a source telling cnn one national guardsmen was concerned "card is going to snap a commit a mass shooting." the sheriff's office went to the former reservist's home twice. a source telling cnn he wasn't home during one of those visits, prompting the sergeant who tried to check on him to send out a missing person's report. other visit was on september 16th. this time, they believed he was home. card could be heard moving inside the trailer, but would not answer the door. officers left without making contact. deciding due to being in a very disadvantageous position, we decided to back away. sources telling cnn a sheriff's deputy spoke to his brother on september 17th. he told authorities he and his
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father would work with robert to make sure he does not have any other firearms. it's unclear if any further action was taken after that, and a source told cnn the case appears to have been closed on october 1st. 24 days before the shooting. now, according to sources, the maine national guard initiated the wellness check because the reservist started hearing voices in the spring and say they had only gotten worse. the national guard also informed the sheriff's office of his history of mental illness, including his stay at a psychiatric facility in july. according to a source, national guard was trying to get him to retire under the condition that he get mental health treatment. cnn started raising questions early on in the investigation. as you stand here today, was law enforcement notified of the threats that he was making of his condition? >> i won't answer or answer to any comments that she made, but based on what i've seen, we'll continue to work through that. a spokesperson for state police
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telling cnn sunday, dps has no regulatory authority over law enforcement agencies in maine. >> reporter: the sheriff has refused to answer our questions. we went to his home yesterday. his wife telling us that he was done answering questions. and we've been asking investigators about this. all of them refusing to answer any of our questions. and it was only because of officials here, brave sources who came forward who felt that officials here were not being transport about what happened in the lead up to this horrific event. they came forward with this information, and now, obviously, there are many, many questions to be asked about what officials here, what the investigators were doing during this time period. >> and we know you won't stop asking them. shimon, thank you very much. >> just days after the shooting rampage in lewiston, maine, that left 18 dead and 13 more injured, more deadly shootings
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took place over the weekend. in indianapolis, one person was killed and nine others were injured after shots were fired at a halloween party. at a halloween party in chicago, at least 15 people were shot early sunday morning. in texarkana, texas, three people are dead, three others are injured after a fistfight broke out and at least two men pulled out rifles and started shooting. and in tampa, florida, a 22-year-old was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after killing two and leaving 16 others injured. cnn's isabel rosales joins us live in atlanta. i i isabel, what can you tell us about what happened in florida? >> reporter: this mass shooting happening in ibor, this is a vibrant tampa neighborhood. by day, it's rich with history, old cigar factories, plenty of italian cuban cultural roots and by night the city really transforms with hundreds of people packed into those streets visiting bars and clubs. according to tampa police department, it's as those bars were closing, just before 3:00
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a.m. early sunday morning that a fight broke out between two groups of people. that fight then escalated into a shooting. overall, two people were killed, 16 people were injured, 15 out of those 16 had gunshot wounds. now, out of the two that were killed, that is a 22-year-old man, young man, and then a 14-year-old little boy. here's what the police chief had to say on the shooting and the young age of that victim. >> i want you to know that what happened is completely unacceptable and the tampa police department is not going to tolerate it. clearly, there is no place a 14-year-old should be at 3:00 in the morning. and that doesn't matter if it's ibor or some other place. i can't find anywhere i would want a 13-year-old out at 3:00 in the morning. >> over 50 police officers were out to handle that fight.
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they charged tyler phillips with second-degree murder. they're investigating whether other shooters may have been involved here. and poppy and phil, i want to mention that so far, there have been over 580 mass shootings this year in the united states, that's according to the gun violence archive. 11 of those shootings happening this weekend. it's left 60 people injured so far and at least eight people dead. >> isabel rosales, thank you. politics now. former vice president mike pence dropping out of the gop presidential field. we'll take a look at where the race for the republican nomination stands. harry enten is here. and america is mourning one of television's most iconic characters. tributes pouring in for "friends" star matthew perry. >> no, i didn't read the box before i opened it! and you can't return a box after you've opened the box. >> what? why not? >> because it's too delicious.
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the third republican presidential debate coming up next week. the field, it's narrowing a little bit this morning. over the weekend, former vice president mike pence suspended his campaign for the white house. his campaign was lagging in the polls, facing seriously financial challenges. here's how the gop front-runner donald trump reacted to the news of his former vice president. >> everybody that leaves seems to be endorsing me. you know, people are leaving now, and they're all endorsing me. i don't know about mike pence. he should endorse me. i chose him, made him vice president, but people -- people in politics can be very disloyal. i've never seen anything like it. you know, they ask me a question -- >> traitor! >> traitor, he goes. but, he could have done what he could have done, right? >> yeah. joining us now is cnn senior data reporter, harry henten. harry, how bad was it at the end? why didn't he resonate? he ran a traditional republican campaign in iowa? >> what exactly happened to mike pence? normally, you would expect a
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former vp to do pretty decently. just look how bad it was at the end of this campaign. mike pence's gop primary, nationally he was at 4%. quite bad. you get into those early primary caucus stays, the first of the nation test, iowa, 3%. new hampshire, he was down to just 1% of the vote, for a former vp? no former vp has done this bad since dan quayle during the 2000 gop primary cycle. why did it get this bad? among republicans, was biden's 2020 win legitimate? 60% said "no," just 23% said "yes." so pence's role on january 6th certifying those votes, overseeing the certification of those votes in congress, i think at the end of the day was just something that he could not overcome. >> what does this do for trump? >> i think the real question is, what does this do for donald trump? what are we looking at now? and look, donald trump is right now the run away front-runner. look at this. he's at 60% of the gop primary
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vote if pence isn't in the race. no one is anywhere close, desantis at 18%. haley at 9. ramaswamy at 4. here's the thing i want you to keep in mind. where have people in trump's position in the past, what have they gone on and done? look at this. primary poll leaders at 50% plus at this point. all before trump won the nomination. gore in 2000, bush in 2000, hillary clinton in 2016. will donald trump repeat in 2024? we'll just have to wait and see. but nobody should be under any allusions. at this point, donald trump is the clear front-runner and no one in his position has ever lost a primary before. >> harry, good to see you, buddy. >> it's nice to see you as well. nice to be back. >> thank you. appreciate it. busy week ahead for the u.s. economy, that is for sure. we're going to get a lot of key economic indicators, a ton of earnings reports. fed chair jerome powell will announce an interest rate decision wednesday. and then the jobs report is friday. >> joining us now is rana t
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for foroohar, she's also the author of the book "homecoming: the path to prosperity in a post-global war," which is now out in paperback. in terms of the week that we have ahead, i'm looking primarily at jerome powell. what are we thinking right now based on the data we've seen in the last couple of weeks? >> oh, man, it is going to be such a tough decision for him. it's a tightrope. on the one hand, look, the economy is in a great place. we've just got an an incredible growth number. gdp is soaring, the jobs market is great. this all sounds really good, what it means is, is inflation getting out of control? do rates need to go up again? and that's the big decision, because right now, there's a lot of worries that if we see another rate hike, that we may see a precipitous slowdown in the economy. that, you know, maybe we're at that cooling point. maybe we don't need another rate hike. the fed has got an incredibly tough job to do, and i think it could go either way, to be honest with you.
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>> you're a big fan of bi bidenomics. >> love bidenomics. >> i know you do. you wrote about it and made the case that we are seeing a sea change in how this economy is run. more focused on main street than wall street. a lot of americans don't feel that way at all. they don't have confidence in the president, on the economy, i think it's 36% in the most recent polling, and we all feel it when we're buying groceries or trying to pay rent. >> that's right. >> make the case! >> so inflation is a thing. it's a real thing. but this president is trying to make a sea change in the way our economy operates. and that's not something that happens in a quarter. it's not something that maybe even happens in one year. it's something that's going to play out over years, over decades. that's a tough thing to message. but what i would say is this. if you look at how the u.s. is doing post-pandemic, post-war in ukraine, now with a conflict in gaza, decoupling with china, we're actually doing really
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well, you know? nobody thought that this economy was going to be in the place that it's in. you know, that we were not going to have a hard landing. you know, a lot of people including me thought we would be in a recession by now. >> we may not technically be in a recession yet -- >> oh, we're 100% not. >> but jamie dimon is one person who thinks there are a number of issues, you obviously read their third quarter earnings and he talked about consumer spending down there. he talked about persistently tight labor markets, high government debt levels. he also talked about, we don't know what quantitative tightening is going to do, and then he talked about the wars that are ongoing, and how dangerous this makes that time. doesn't that throw into question your argument at least somewhat? >> i don't think it does. as a matter of fact, i think that my argument is stronger because of all of these things. and i'll tell you why. we have had, for honestly a half century, poppy, we've had an economy that's run primarily by the fed, primarily on the basis of easy money, low interest rates. all the things that have kept
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stock prices high, but frankly have kept incomes, until recently, pretty low. and incomes still, if you factor in the cost of living, the inflationary pressures you just mentioned, they're not up that much. that's why folks aren't feeling it on main street. this president campaign in on a program of work, not wealth. that means we're using fiscal stimulus, things like the chips act, the inflation reduction act, we are building things. there's a manufacturing resurgence in this country. i think that we're about to start really seeing the job impact of that. we're at a major turning point here. we're at a precipice. and i think it's important to keep going the direction that we've been going to get to a better place. >> the words the president always uses, paradigm shift. the piece is the great reordering in the washington monthly. if you want to understand the "why," read the piece. whether you like bidenomics or not, read the piece.
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we want to show you some new video into cnn. an israeli tank was filmed apparently opening fire on a passenger vehicle as it was turning around on main road running through gaza. take a look. cnn geolocated the video, which was filmed by a palestinian free lance journalist. it shows a key cross roads to the south of gaza city. he said the tank was, quote, standing there and targeting anyone who came close to it. now, we must note, we don't know who is driving the vehicle and don't know their condition after the incident. the israeli army has not publicly commented on the incident. >> this all comes as a new survey reveals before hamas's october 7th terror attack on israel, the group was deeply unpopular among palestinians living in gaza and the west bank. this survey conducted by arab barometer on the eve of the latest conflict found 44% of people in gaza had no trust at all in the hamas-led government and also found that the majority of gazaens favor a two-state
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solution. arab barometer is a research group that measures attitude and sentiment across the world. joining us is michael roibins, and its cofounder, thank you both. this is really important. because we have consistently said the administration needs to say, you know, you cannot group hamas, a terror organization, president palestinian people. they govern, yes, but the distinction is so important. talk if you could first, amani, about what this 44% tells us. >> well, what this tells us is that the support for hamas does not enjoy popular opinion in gaza. in fact, most gazaens on the eve of the october 7th atrocious attacks, two-thirds of gazaens do not have trust or a great deal of trust with the hamas government. in other words, the citizens themselves are not necessarily
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supporting hamas as a governing authority, nor are they supporting hamas with its tactics to annihilate the state of israel. so in other words, as citizens now are bearing the brunt of the israeli retaliation, they, too, have not supported hamas. so it is really a catastrophe. >> michael, if i'm reading it correctly, past crackdowns on hamas or in the gaza strip by the idf have driven public sentiment towards hamas, to some degree. do we think the same thing is going to happen here? >> we think that that is most likely. in the past, we've looked at the effect of israel taking harsher approaches towards the gaza strip. we found is that when the economic blockade has been strengthened, support for hamas has gone up. in some sense, palestinians are responding to the anger and frustration about the situation for me there, the economic blockade or military actions. and responding with a positive view towards hamas, who is in a
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sense resisting this. so in a way, it's driving people into the greater support for hamas, given the actions of israel. >> i was also really struck by the support among those that you polled for a two-state solution. what did you find? >> yeah, when we asked respondents which of the following options they would support in terms of their future relationship with the state of israel, about 80% of palestinian s or gazaens chose a solution that basically had them living side by side in a peaceful solution with the state of israel. the two-state solution received by far the majority opinion among palestinians in gaza. so, again, the population of gaza does not show support for hamas, support for the tactics of hamas, or support for the goals of hamas. >> michael, this has to do a little bit with my last question to you. you guys were out of the field by october 8th.
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do you think the last two weeks have changed anything. perhaps they support hamas more because of the resistance, because of past precedent in crackdowns, but in terms of the pathway forward, do you think this has changed since then? >> certainly, it's difficult to say. we cannot go in given the terrible conditions if gaza today. however, if we were to go in, i think that certainly the anger towards israel, the economist has reported before the weekend that 10% of buildings in gaza were destroyed. this is really a dire and horrific situation for civilians living in gaza who, again, didn't support hamas before this and are now suffering from this. but certainly, given that they are being bombed. given the horrific nature of what's happening, i would certainly expect there to be significant changes and that there's significantly greater anger towards israel, i think, certainly blaming them and not so much a focus on hamas. and that likely, when this does end, palestinian public opinion in gaza is likely to be very, very, you know, different than it was, than we saw and i think
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much more anger than it was in terms of thinking about this as being israeli caused as opposed to really looking at the domestic government of gaza before the attacks. >> it's crucial perspective to have in all of this. michael robinson, thank you very much. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you so much. matthew perry cemented himself as a television icon playing chandler bing on "friends." his tv mom, morgan fairchild, joins us to remember the actor, next. >> how would you like to be remembered? >> i would like to be remembered as somebody who lived well, loved well, was a seeker, and his s paramount t thing is t th wants to h help peoplele.
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writer. >> if i can do it anybody can, you just start with half a dozen european cities, throw in 30 euphemisms formally genitalia and, bam, you have yourself a book. >> my mother, ladies and gentlemen. >> that was matthew perry as chandler bing on "friends." the beloved actor was found dead in a hot tub at his home in los angeles on saturday. a law enforcement source tells cnn there is no foul play expected. perry's death is under investigation. >> he landed several high profile roles in movies and tv, "beverly hills, 90210" throughout his career, but it was his unforgettable role as chandler bing that made him a household name. the creators of "friends" released a statement saying he was always the funniest person in the room, more than that he was the sweetest with a giving and selfless heart. joining us from kansas city is actress morgan fairchild who
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played perry's tv mom on "friends." there is an unlimited number of clips that you want to show and laugh at, but i want to start with how will you remember. you said you were heart -- brbr broken. how will you remember matthew. >> i just remember matthew from the first day on the set. the show was not a huge hit yet when i started working on it and he came bounding over to me and literally bounding like a big puppy and said, oh, you won't remember me but i used to visit you on the set of "flamingo road" and "falcon crest" with your dad. his dad was john bettennett per. there was that friendly and wonderful puppy dog kind of feel about matthew. he was such a warm and wonderful and funny and creative young
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man. you know, i was looking at some of the pictures over the weekend of us and realized, my god, this is almost 30 years ago. so we've all grown up together. the audience has grown up with matt as their best friend, the person they wanted to be, the person they wanted to meet and know and have as a friend and we all kind of grew up together with me being his fake mom. >> it's so interesting. we for years watching "friends" saw what he showed the world, right? how funny he was, what a great actor he was, but then later in life when he wrote his book and came out to talk about his addiction and his struggles we also saw his reality and his humanity in everything that he has dealt with that so many people could relate to and i just was moved, morgan, when he said, you know, i want to be someone who people can come up to on the street and ask for help and i wanted to help them and he wanted his legacy to be
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about that and not just acting. >> well, and i think that was one of the very, very special things about matthew. i watched him go from a young man when he was 23, 24 when we started working together and obviously had some issues during the time he was on "friends." i never saw it on the set, he was always very professional, but then when you started hearing about some of the things he had gone through, i think one of the bravest things that he did in his career and his life was to go public, to write this book, to reach out to other people, to try to be of help to other people. and that was one of the most endearing things about him is that as they said in the intro, not only was he always the funniest guy in the room and the quickest whit and the most happy and up seemingly, but also one of the kindest and having -- having had friends and family with addiction problems in my life, people that i cared about,
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i know how hard that is for the addict and also for the people who love them. i thought it was terribly brave of him to want that to be part of his legacy as a human being is not only the joy that he brought to people, the great acting, the great fun parts, but also the reaching out, the trying to help other people, the being honest about what he was facing in life because to me that's what we're all really here for is to help each other get through this and he was doing that big time. >> that's really beautifully said. it would mean a lot to him, morgan, i'm sure. >> can i ask before we let you go, what made him so good at his job? you mentioned that you never saw any issues on set, he was always the funniest guy in the room, his delivery, i don't think you could mimic it if you tried to study it for years. what made him so great? >> well, you know, i mean, i've gotten to work with a few wonderful comics, robin williams being one of them, and he had
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that magnificent quality of just being so quick, so smart, to quick, and that quick turn. he could -- he could just pop up with something that you were not expecting out of the blue and it made it work, especially when we were working together with this sort of weird mother/son relationship that chandler and norah bing had where he was always so embarrassed by her and part of his neurosis trying to deal with his parents which i think a lot of kids could identify with, but he was just always so quick, just so quick. and in real life, too, very funny, very witty and it affected -- it affected his acting, his acting showed that, that quick turn that caught you off guard, that made you laugh, because he was -- he was just a very endearing, fun, wonderful, wonderful guy and i send my love and condolences to his family. i just felt that i should do something because for millions
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of people who watch the show, they sometimes think of me as his mom, as chandler's mom, and i just -- i just wanted to reach out because i've gotten lots of condolences on social media from all over the world. you realize how many -- how many people this show touched, how many people felt that it helped them grow up, that they identified with this character wanting to be the character, be the best friend and just as his fake mom i just want to say how much i loved him and how special he was, and thank you to -- and let his family know all the condolences i have gotten to pass on to them. >> we're so glad you joined us, morgan, for all those great memories. thanks very much. >> thank you. thank you. and "cnn news central" starts after this break, but as we go to break here is charlie puth paying a tribute to matthew perry last night in australia. we remember matthew perry. ♪
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