tv Laura Coates Live CNN October 30, 2023 8:00pm-9:01pm PDT
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>> have a great show. >> we'll see right back here tomorrow, okay? >> you too. >> the war in the middle east is coming home and the cast of friends paid tribute to matthew perry. tonight on laura coates live. so, as the war rages in the middle east prime minister benjamin netanyahu says a cease-fire is not going to happen. >> this is a time for war. >> but there was some good news, at least for one family in israel today. a female israeli soldier who is kidnapped by hamas on october 7th has now been rescued. the idf says she was medically checked out and is doing well. but, for the families of the remaining hostages, and we're talking about hundreds, the torment continues. three women, shown in the hamas
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hostage video today stated on plastic critters are front facing the camera. one angrily demanding that netanyahu free us all now. we have chosen not to show the video here at cnn because, one, they are hostages, and to their statements could have been made under duress. you would think the war that is happening there has no real bearing on what is happening in the rest of the world you are mistaken. because hate and antisemitism are spreading all around the world. an angry mob in russia is mostly muslim region of -- stormed in airport when a flight from israel arrived on sunday forcing authorities to shut it down and divert flights. that, as the war is also coming home domestically on college campuses. cornell university's police department is now increasing patrols and either providing extra security for jewish students in the wake of a
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series of antisemitic threats and online posts over the weekend. now, that includes threats to shoot jewish students in the campuses kosher dining hall. so, what is it going to take to keep students safe? with antisemitic incidents up almost 400%, yes, 400% since the october 7th attacks, all talk to our coronal student about what is happening on that campus. later tonight, morning matthew perry. the cast of friends breaking their silence today. jennifer aniston, courtney cox, lisa kudrow, david schwimmer, and matt leblanc saying tonight, quote, we are also utterly devastated by the loss of matthew. we were more than just cast mates, we are a family. well, tonight, i'll talk to friends executive producer kevin right. let's begin, though, tonight with the antisemitic online threats against students at cornell university. joining me now is a student at
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cornell, damien jackman. he's also the former national student union president. damian, thank you so much for joining us this evening. we all heard about the statements that were made, the threats. it was just so unbelievable. i mean, your family -- grandfather is a holocaust survivor and here we are in 2023, at your college, there were just calls to shoot jewish students at a building that contains cornell suit center for jewish living. there are also calls to jewish women, to be head jewish babies in front of their families. the rhetoric, the statements unbelievable. do you feel safe on your campus tonight? >> first off, laura, thank you so much for having me and thank you for allowing league share my experiences to the world. just say i feel safe would be, i'm not sure i would be able to say that. i know that my friends and my other classmates do not feel
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safe on campus. they've been using buddy systems to go from class to class. some of them did not attend classes today, they requested zoom links so they could attend. students who eat at the kosher dining hall were unable to get that kosher food last night as cornell's university called for the jewish students, in some respects, go on lockdown and not leave their dorms. so to say i feel safe, i wouldn't say i'd be able to say that. >> the idea that you are having body systems, lockdowns, not being able to go to the dining hall and actually have the administration suggest part of that to you is just unbelievable. in 2023. you actually held up a sign on canvas the other day that said we are jewish, we are proud, we will not be afraid. what led you, in that moment, to do just that? to make that sign, to hold it up? i'm wondering, given those threats now, what kind of responses you get from holding
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that sign? >> so, my grandpa is a holocaust survivor as you mentioned. i've lost many relatives to the chambers. the jewish community states often that never again, never forget. now is the time to really live up to that motto, never again. in times like this, with attacks like these, we must be loud, we must be proud, and most of all the jewish community must remain and continue to be jewish. this sign i decided to do today along side of security and the reason why i want to do this is to show jewish community on campus that you can feel safe and you should feel safe. i did have cornell police patrolling the area to ensure that no attacks or made, but it was very receptive by the jewish community and other students who, at times, waved to me, chanted, clapped for me. other students stood with me. i had about ten or 15 students standing with me today with that sign in the pouring rain,
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but rain or shine i am still jewish and i'm going to continue to be jewish no matter the hate, no matter the attack. >> damien, such powerful words. i am heartened a little bit to know that there were other students who were supporting you. where the other student groups on campus supportive of you and your classmates who felt they had to have the buddy system, to have the lockdowns, or has it been an isolating experience? >> at times it can feel isolating because i haven't had the greatest support from the jewish groups, but that support has mostly been because they don't feel like it is safe to do an event like this. they were very supportive of me, but cornell campus is 25% jewish. i didn't have thousands of people out there, but to see the jurors support, to see the support of been getting, the text messages from classmates saying thank you for standing up there, being an advocate for the jewish community, it has
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brought me a lot of joy, my family a lot of joy, even times where my family -- whether it's safe for me to be on campus or whether i should come back home. >> what did you decide? >> i told them that we have just a. that now is not the time to really go back home, but i understood their reservations and i also told them that if things get worse than, yeah, i will buy a bus ticket. i'll be pack my bags and head back home because at the end of the day safety is the number one priority and safety is the number one priority of the jewish groups and the campus administration and i've been very appreciative of the campus administration and the jewish groups on campus. >> damien get, minutes you so much. stay well, stay safe, i'm sorry you have to even endure a slight fraction of this on a college campus. thank you so much. >> thank you so much laura, stay safe. >> i want to bring in sofia, managing editor and reporter for the cornell daily son. i'm glad that you're joining us today because we've got a
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little bit of the experience from one of the students that we were speaking to just now. i think we're going to get her back in just a moment, but one of the things that we have been focusing on and hearing a lot about has been what the experience has been for the administration. of course, also come disappoint the governor kathy hochul, who spoke from the center of jerusalem today saying anyone making threats will, quote, get no refuge. so, what has the campus climate been like right now? >> yeah, our newspaper we spoke to said students yesterday, when the threats were being posted online. they told us that they were very fearful for our safety and they were proud of the response from the university to act swiftly and increase security overnight. this morning i went to the center for jewish living and i heard from governor kathy hochul and i spoke to students afterwards and they told me that, while they are very fearful for their safety, they are proud of how the state has been reacting and how the university has increased security and they want to be
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defiant with these threats. they know the purpose of them is to instill fear and they don't want that to be the reaction, they want to be able to go on with their daily lives. >> is the sentiment from the student that this is a threat from within or that somebody from the outside is trying to instill this fear from the students? >> we don't know right now. it was posted on a forum called -- anyone can post on there, you don't have to be affiliated with cornell. right now nobody knows if this is a threat from within our community or from a threat from outside. >> when you look at this, when this is the latest antisemitic incident on cornell's aunts campus, but it's not the first since hamas is a terror attack on october 7th. what else as been happening on campus? >> just this wednesday there was anti-israel and anti-zionist graffiti that was vandalized throughout campus. the university was very swift in their actions of removing the graffiti, but people were pretty shaken up by it. two weeks ago there was an incident where a professor gave
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a speech at an off campus pro palestine rally in which he stated that he was initially exhilarated by hamas's attack on israel. that has a lot of outrage from the jewish community on campus and more broadly. >> i want to play that clip for us, we have that where the professor talks about it being exhilarating. listen to this. >> her able to breathe for the first time in years. it is exhilarating. it was exhilarating. [inaudible] >> now that professor has been placed on leave and has actually since apologized for his, quote, poor choice of words, unquote. but he is still employed by the college.
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how are students feeling about that? >> student reaction are very mixed. there are students who feel very hurt by his words and are calling for his termination from the university, but they're also students who feel that his sentiments were taking out of context and not displayed properly in that video clip. there have been petitions to both terminate him from the university and increased support for him, for a beloved professor. students are very mixed but i would say from the jewish community it has been a lot of condemnation for this professor. >> your paper, the core nelson, as a featured number of op-eds talking about this conflict in israel. has it been difficult to balance that coverage. obviously you are a college campus, some supreme court justices would call it the marketplace of ideas. has it been difficult to balance the coverage and reporting? >> it definitely has. campus feels really tense right now. i can speak personally from my classes, students are afraid to talk about the subject. as you mentioned, we have been
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covering it very extensively at the sun, but it definitely has been a difficult topic. a lot of criticism from all different sides. >> sophia, thank you so much for joining us. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all of this on a college campus. one of, likely many, across the united states. the deadly war shocking atrocities and hate festering around the world is actually reminding some people of what happened in 1938. remember what they say, those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. joining me now is a man who can put it all into perspective for us. a cnn historian tim naftali and. tim, i'm glad you here because i've often heard people referencing that here, hearing people talk about historically where we are again and being in this moment. you have seen the video of people flooding the runway,
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looking for. matt miller, the state department spokesman described the event as looking like a pogrom, a massacre of jewish people. here in the u.s. the adl is saying that antisemitic incidents are up -- there is a real fear and some are referencing -- leading up to the holocaust. i'll give you some context about those references here? >> in the 1930s, extreme nationalists in europe made the argument, not just with words but violence, that would never be acceptable in multi cultural society. indeed, that they didn't prove that the multi societies. they're not sees built an entire ideology on this extreme
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nationalist view and of course, in an imperialist war, sought to eliminate every jewish person from europe. so it is not a surprise that, with the increase of antisemitism, that started a long time before hamas's terror attacks on october 7th, with this increase in antisemitism that the jewish people and their allies around the world are calling on state government to defend liberal civil society. and they are worried that some governments are incapable or unwilling because, they too, are extremely nationalist. from defending multiculturalism. >> we often look back to see, politically, how these issues were dealt with. the successes, the failures, the shortcomings, those who are
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lesser known. what does history teach us about how to prevent this from happening again? if passed really is prologue, can we course correct? >> well, history provides us with indications of dangers. when thought leaders, now we would use the word influencers, right, when local and state, and federal, and national leaders don't call out of hatred they are cowardly and they feed it. it is very important to make the point that dissent, which we privilege and we appreciate in our democracy, is not the same as a violent opposition. that when you disagree with someone there are limits to that acceptability of the
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disagreement. once you answer, once you cross the line into violence, it is no longer acceptable. that is a point that has to be made. there is a limit and when you spread hate, when you incite or engaged in violence, you are no longer protected by anything like a first amendment and that's the point that needs to be made over and over again. we should be free to disagree, but nonviolently. that is a point that, from history we have seen, if you don't make that point over and over again, if you tolerate violence the situation will only get worse. >> we have seen so many different moments in history that are getting us to this very moment, sadly. but perhaps the context you bring and the analogy that are being raised from the 1930s, people are seeing that. perhaps that's the first step in information. tim, thank you very much. >> thank you, laura.
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there's new video tonight, a rescue of a hostage would be the first since the war began. but more than 200 hostages remain captive in gaza. including my next guest, 12-year-old son that is. 16 year old daughter, saw her and the father of her children as well. now she called her own joint needs now. the granddaughter were founded after they were taken hostage by hamas. hadas, it's so difficult to meet in this way. and i'm just so sorry that this is how we are meeting. it seems odd to even ask you how we are doing. and perhaps the better question is, what is keeping you moving forward each day. hi laura. first of all i don't have an answer for myself. in how i still have the power
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but i feel like i am a soldier in the middle of the war and that is the way that i behave. i'm like a robot. i can't stop to feel my pain. in the night, when i go to sleep and them by sleeping he's crying and sleeping. but in the day automatically, i'm like a soldier. i have to save my children's life. -- and instead it was like he was the. both he had been far.
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he had been kidnapped. he had been thrown away from the safe place, from the safe bed. it's pyjama without shoes. and just picked up, throw it away and it was taken and now for three weeks and they just disappeared from my life. and i don't know for how long. can you imagine your child to one day disappear? and now the, weeks you never know when it's going to end? i'm in. i'm in. i went yesterday to the house again, and i went to see my children's house, and my mom's house. and they both had been burned. i was working there and it was like a city of ghost. i can't make sense about the massacre that we had.
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it's all quiet, i see all the burned houses. and i went in the houses with the camera man nash we want around and i see all the stuff of my children, all of the close nap, all the mess and all the burnt and black houses. hardly nothing left. >> how did it feel to be in that space knowing that that was your children's home? the silence, really so cruel not to have them there? what did that feel like for you? i can say that i was crushed. i was crushed. i was crying like.
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because for a moment, i let myself feel and i could feel what happened to them. and it's not a nightmare, it's more than that. it's terrifying. a terrifying moment when i realize that they have been taken and they don't know what's going to happen. >> well let me ask you, that, that's when you heard them at the rescue of an israeli soldier there is also a ground invasion happening in gaza. >> what's that? >> on the one hand there's hope that there's an israeli soldier that has them released, rescued. and on the other hand there is this ongoing ground invasion in gaza.
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the two must be very, very difficult to try and reconcile. do you have concerns about the military response in gaza that might impact getting your children returned quickly? >> of course. we are terrified. we hardly sleep. we hardly eat. we are terrified because our diamonds are in the monsters hands. i'm the army -- i just want to believe that the army behaves wisely with good judgment. and that we're going to behave helpful. but we never know. every moment is very critical. and --
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we mustn't forget that. -- i'm so sorry, those will be thinking of your family and the other families that are experiencing the that you described. it just should not be -- >> yes it's a of a time. >> i just want to tell, you i went to my mom's house yesterday >> and bring us for coffee and cake. and a beautiful garden. it is all gone. it's like they murder are so.
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there is nothing left really. -- and those who just turned 12 years old and your 16-year-old daughter -- , so hard thank you so much. and their father, and i need all the names -- -- thank you for sharing with us tonight. so difficult -- and the that he has described is so difficult to wrap your mind around the lost of any person.
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our best friends, matthew perry was just 54 years old when he died and it's less on saturday and he's gone unresponsive in his hot tub, and the cause of death is still unknown pending toxicology's. harry was best known for playing chandler being on the beloved sitcom friends. tonight his costar -- we are all still devastated by the loss of matthew. we are more than just cast mates. we are a family. there is so much to say all right now, we're gonna take a moment to believe, and process this unfathomable loss. the next -- -- kevin thank you so much for joining us this evening. it's unbelievably sad news to think about the loss of someone -- watching for the better part of the decades.
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re-renewed chandler being. matthew perry. and i'm wondering if you can reflect a little bit about what his loss means to you tonight. -- >> these especially at a point in his live with demons that plagued him for so long. and he was on a mission to help the people. that's what he was focused on -- >> --
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>> he was also interested to make movies again. [interpreter] >> he was also 20 years old when he started on friends. and you forget how young he was and he's watching it in realtime right now, thinking about frozen in time as forever that person for your incredible ten seasons. you know periods costars. they were about more than just cast mates. they were a family and in fact here he is reflecting on their bond back hbo max is really highly anticipated and beloved 2021 friends reunion special. listen. >> the best way i can describe. it is that after a party, any kind of social gathering if one of i -- if one of us bumped into each other. that was the end of the night. and they just sat with us.
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-- >> you apologize to people who you are with, and you had met somebody special to you and your -- >> we talk to us about that bond and really how it also translated to the need to protect one another and to protect matthew. >> >> well you know the cast for every episode from the very beginning gathered backstage. and they were huddled before they would go out. and then they would gather during the day between rehearsal. and the lunches and it really was a family kind of situation and i think for matthew with all of his troubles over the years, i think that this cast really supported him in a way that allowed him to be the common genius that he was.
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and i think without that perfect cast around him, it would've been a different story. also his relationship with joe y -- those or incan -- or as great as an actor artist and it is a lesser form. and totally not is one of the hardest things to pull off to land the lines come after time that makes people relate to them in such a way. and deliver some of the most iconic moments, of this beloved show. and yet what a contrast to this beautiful --
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>> he talks about just how vulnerable he really. was do you think that those were the struggles that he was facing. and if so were you surprised that he shared them with the world? >> we were aware that he was facing personal struggles and there were times where he had to leave the show for several months to go to rehab. but you know, in general i think that it shows support for him in a way for those years. and you know, just allowed him to be in the struggle. >> you know, he has been using this platform. and he had been using his platform to really be a guiding light, to be a force of
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influence for so many people who are battling addiction. but also saw him as one of them. which made all the more powerful. he had a choice and he chose to use the platform. and there are so many iconic moments. i'm sure you've been watching social media. and you've been seeing that people have been sharing all their favorite of chandler being live. and i want to share for the audience, one of your favorite. >> you make me happier. then i ever thought i could be. and if you let me i will spend the rest of my, life trying to make you feel the same way. [crying] >> will you marry me? >> yes.
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that moment still makes you smile, why? well because we were rooting for monaco and chandler all along and i think that's the thing about the relationship and i remember when we were in london and we did the london wedding and we revealed the relationship for the first time. matthew and courtney came out from under those covers that was just like gangbusters four minutes in that place and just applause would not stop. >> well a testament to the actor who was there and even to this day kevin bride the oblast does not stop for these very. thank you for sharing a little bit with us tonight. >> thank you laura. >> we'll be right back.
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while an extraordinary long shot court cases now underway to determine whether the 14th amendment disqualifies donald trump for running for president. let's talk about, now the key takeaways and the first day of trial, legal analyst, the former white house ethics and ambassador of eisen. also, here he told us as well that he was investigative counsel for the house january six committee. it was not a very good day for donald trump in colorado. why? >> he got rocked with the 12 punch, very powerful law enforcement followed by a member of congress, eric salt well that vividly described for
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the judge, the nature of the insurrection and donald trump's words on january six. his actions, but also 187 minutes of inaction while the insurrection raged. bad day for the former president. because the whole premise is if you are an insurrectionist, essentially, you cannot be the president of the united states again. let alone the first time. so, tommy was their moment that you saw marcus and you said that's a good one for the prosecution or defense? >> going back to what north just, said the 24 tweet about the presidents words on january, six former president trump's counsel said that he wasn't there with the pitchfork on january. six but that -- what the former president attacked vice president pence and said that he wasn't doing all that he could do to push the big lie. and then we saw some of the worst violence of that, they come after that 2024 tweet. so while president trump ran out with a pitchfork. that 2024 tweet was dangerous than he could've ever done on
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january six. >> that's just one of the, trials remember there's one coming up as well in washington d.c.. out about january six of, course you both know a great deal about. if there was also another one in new york. the civil fraud trial and some witness includes on children. what do you, make in, fact where you're gonna have don jr. and eric testifying, by the way defendants but not ivanka whose case was dismissed, right? >> ivanka was dismissed out of the case because her service in the trump company's was deemed to be outside of the statute of limitations, period. but that doesn't excuse her from testifying and i think we will see, or she will be the last witness in the case and chief. and she's going to have to answer some very hard questions about her father's best representations. how can you say we your home is a little over 30,000 square feet, when it's really 10,000 square feet? what is she going to say about her knowledge on her father's
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knowledge, her brother's knowledge of those false statements? bombshell testimony. >> it's her credibility an issue? has she been as forthcoming in all contact. >> i'll be as scarce in the forthcoming as she can be. when she shot -- and weather was to keep her father. can she said she couldn't recall that specific reasoning. but then you talk to a chief of staff, you talked around the committee as well and our chief of staff recalls ivanka remembering her father, giving president pence a bad name. wanted to keep him calm before he took the stage on january 6th. so that comb the question how forthcoming she was with our committee. and i'll be curious to see how she presents next weekend trial. >> well the plot thickens. we're all curious about that. thank you so much, both of. you will be e right backck. >> if you hahave bladderer, laks whenen you lauaugh, or couough e we d did. there is a a treatmentnt t thatd helplp. a bulk o of it.
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