>> and thank you for watching "'cnn newsnight". "laura coates live" starts right now. >> i like the way he said, that "laura coates live" -- i'm going to have an italics on that now. >> have a great show. we >> thank you. >> donald trump's number one son -- story, eric and darren -- guess who he is blaming for a fraudulent financial statement. it's not anybody named trump. tonight, on "laura coates live" -- so, donald trump jr. with the opening act today in the trump family's quarter of a billion

dollar new york courtroom drama. he testified today in that civil fraud case against the former presidents namesake business. and it went, well, maybe pretty much how you thought it would go. he testified that he was not involved in the preparation of his father's financial statements at any point in time. and you guessed it. he said, blame the accountants. quote, the accountants worked on it. that is what we pay them for. now, don jr. and his brother eric trump are accused of knowingly -- to obtain benefits like better loans or better insurance policy terms. and then deflating it when it was also convenient to do so. while her brother was on the stand, the sister, ivanka trump, appealed the ruling, ordering her to testify that civil trial. remember, she is supposed to testify next week. and she is saying, please, no. eric trump -- later on this week as well. and while the former president has quite a few cases in court

right now, this is the one he has been in the room for. remember, where he has -- think e. jean carroll, i think other court appearances, and other jurisdictions. but this is the one where he is appearing in, and it's going to be testifying, likely, as early as monday. so, why this one? why is this the one? remember, he already left new york, relocated to florida. why is this the casey wants to appear in? maybe because it hits him exactly where it hurts. remember, is reputation, his business, they are really intertwined. some would say whether the business led to the presidency, or the presidency within fuel the business. chicken and egg might be becoming a bit of a story. and -- happening in his hometown of new york city. joining me now, former trump attorney, tim parlatore and attorney a scout bolden. gentlemen, glad you are

-- i won't go into the -- i love the movie. he is focused on that particular courtroom and that's where he wants to be. this is where he has taken the greatest umbrage about being accused of fraud. let's just be honest here, first of all. there's already been a summary judgment motion. the judge has already said the documents are fraudulent. now it's about how expensive it is going to be for him. -- you've been his attorney and counsel in the past. why do you think this is the case that so important to him. this >> is the case that really goes into how he built his entire reputation. he came up from the beginning in a real estate, in new york. and all of that leading up to the presidency -- this puts all that into question. and i think that that is why this is something that is so important to him. because it's the presidency for him and that was four years of his life. this is decades.

and it is what people know donald trump has. >> potus was once on a seal for him. but now trump is on the plane, the buildings, the name. the fact that his kids are going to be testifying now, don jr., say, for an hour and a half testifying. eric trump -- ivanka trump -- the fact that they are testifying, and a man like him, who is known to be very, very keyed in on loyalty, and what is being said. so, there is going to be -- actually say. >> possibly. this is his financial base. that's the first thing. remember that don jr. and eric trump our defendants in the case. marco got out of the case, but they are still trying to get out of -- testify because she is no longer a citizen of new york doesn't -- >> on that point. it does not, right? you don't have to be a citizen of the state that is putting your charge to say, oh, i am sorry. i -- wear you can't come. that's an absurd argument. >> yeah, if you have got information, of the court

things you have information that is relevant, progressive material, then you are probably going to have to stay take the stand it -- >> -- could extend to her. >> exactly, whether they serve her in florida, or wherever she is. but based on don's testimony today, he did not seem to be struggling with any conflict. because, remember, his testimony is, i did not look at these documents. and they have signed these financial documents. but i rely heavily on the lawyers and the accountants. because they had intimate knowledge. so, he has not had to go after his father yet. i do you think that eric and don, as well as donald trump senior a going to have a problem on cross examination, or rather, direct examination, if the a.g. starts to ask them about what they know what eric did, what ivanka, data or what their father did. that could put them out a conflict piece. but still, i don't see them invoking the fifth amendment. because they don't want to draw -- interest from this judge, who has found that these were fraudulent documents. and if they start to lie,

remember, this is all about credibility with his judge. he is going to decide whether -- how much of that 250 million is going to be allocated to each one, even though they could be jointly and severed with liable under new york law. >> remember, when we are talking about adverse inference, we are talking lawyer now. but talking about, in a civil context, unlike the movies, if you plead the fifth in the civil world, the jury or the fact finder than can say, i am going to assume that what you didn't want to say is actually going to really make you sound all the more liable and guilty in these issues. >> adverse -- >> adverse inference. look at those -- a wednesday, look at us doing this whole thing. is it wednesday or thursday? okay, i lost track of time. tim, i'm going to ask you this, though, what you are saying as a. scott bolden has laid out, is it enough to get them off the hook? -- i have these. i have these cash flow numbers. i was handing them off to one person. i did not know what you are

ultimately going to use them for. you asked for numbers. i gave them to you. they ended up in documents and disclosures. that is connect is too much for me to be held liable. is that convincing? >> one of the things we have to remember here is it is a civil case. so, if this was a criminal case, i would say, absolutely. that's something that can be used for reasonable doubt. but in a civil case, where you have a much lower burden of proof, the primacy of the evidence. you also have new, or should have known. just because you were willfully blind to something and you just signed it without paying attention to it does not mean you cannot be held civilly liable for it. because you did sign something that ultimately was not true. >> -- point. >> but i think that because we talk about civil cases, as opposed to criminal, it is less impactful in that case. >> but i think what is really interesting is what the a.g. has to rebut their denials of plausibility or denials that they had anything, or even knowledge, of what gap financing is.

>> what do they have? >> donald jr. disputes. he says, i know the definition of gap financing. but what the government would have to have -- would have to put on other evidence and other testimony from other witnesses who could say, no, don jr. was intimately involved in this. nothing happened. donald trump sr. was intimacy intimately involved in this. and when eric these properties. for example, the d.c. property, the -- the waldorf astoria now, ivanka was intimately involved in those negotiations, if eric was involved in selling their -- a group of african american investors. >> when you look at all this combined, and you think about it, some people would look at this and say, as a civil matter -- we tend to, as a society, put more emphasis on criminal prosecutions. >> right. >> you can end up in jail, people may take more seriously. and some are calling it a kind of victim us victimless crime. like, what is the big deal? who was hurt in this case? what if you are going to inflate assets, and deflate

them, they are tax benefits that are derived. they are taxes not being paid. and then there are some that are being treated very differently. is there anything to the suggestion that this is simply -- you know this well with trump as a former client. this all about a political witch hunt -- there is no real victim here. it's just you trying to -- >> it is something that, whether this is a legitimate case or not, the atmospherics around it certainly lend itself to reinforcing a narrative. she brings this case, you have the judge who is, quite frankly, playing into donald trump's game of saying that he is biased. i think that -- >> you think he is playing into it? >> i think the way that he is doing certain things, the way he handled the contempt -- >> by bringing him on the stage? >> by bringing him on the stage,

by explaining, no, i was talking about the person on the other side of you, not the side of you. i don't find him from a credible and i will do it anyway. i think all of that certainly gives fuel to the fire and feeds into that narrative that it is something that is a political witch hunt. i think that if they were to go back and take all of the other businesses in new york that aren't run by somebody named donald trump and see how many other businesses have done the same thing and how many us and have gotten similar treatment, that is also something they can use to show that it is biased. then again, none of those other businesses did run for elections saying, i will go get them. >> i hear you, but you are also speaking to prosecutorial discretion. here, i have chosen one case to prosecute, almost like at some times making it productive. take a cop sees many people speed by them on the road, but they choose one. i want to go beyond 81 point -- >> correct, a political

prosecution or, a selective prosecution, doesn't necessarily mean that it does not take direct prosecution. it doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't have facts supporting it, just that that prosecutorial discretion has been exercised against certain people and not against others. >> maybe they will get to them, but i think by french thomas talking more politics than all right now. let me just say this. if you go out and violate a court order, you have to get on the stand so the judge can -- and he got on the stand, and the judge found him not credible. he gave him an order and then walked out of the courtroom and violated that order, attacking his law clerk, which is an attack on the administration of justice. >> details, details. >> oh, i'm sorry. we are officers of the court to, by the way. >> i want declined to let all lawyer to all the talking. >> good luck with that. speaking of those doing the talking, i am focused on ivanka because she is the one who was saying she is appealing. she doesn't want to testify. obviously, our case was dismissed because the statute of limitations and she wasn't

included in this litigation. but, what is the likelihood that she will not be able or allowed or required to to testify. >> i think she gets to testify. i think the appeal will be denied. this judge is good at exercising his discretion, and unless he abuses that discretion under the new york law, she will testify. she has got to concerns, once, she doesn't want to invoke the fifth, even though she is just a witness, she is not a party anymore. and two, they probably think she has information relevant to their civil prosecution of her father and her brother's, and she doesn't want to give damaging testimony against any one of the three. she probably has it because they are very close, it is a family run business, and she probably does have damaging testimony, which is why she is fighting against testifying so much. >> or, she has some information she doesn't want to double john thinks she has to. this is one of the cases out there -- by the way, on the horizon, to look out for, trump is fighting

on the immunity section of the january 6th litigation, saying he doesn't want to be on trial at all until after the election. if you can push a lot of these -- >> they have to be careful. they are under oath and their testimony, depending on how far it goes on cross or direct examination, whether their testimony will be used against donald trump in his criminal proceedings. that is always a possibility, depending on the level of relevance to the criminal cases. >> tim, are you eager to get back to being their attorney right now? [laughter] your hand is going up. a big thing, yeah? >> i am happy i left when i did. it was a great experience having been a part of the team. i am very happy that i made the decision i did when i did. >> how very diplomatic. we'll end on that, scott gulden and timothy parlatore, thank you so much. coming up next, the cornell student accused of threatening to kill his jewish peers is now behind bars and will likely

stay there pending any for the prosecution. how did the students feel about the threats allegedly coming from one of their own? i will ask them, next.

as the war in the middle east is coming home, how do we and what to do about the fear that is spreading? cornell is canceling classes after the arrest of a junior student into threat to kill jewish students. how do campuses respond when the threats come within their student body? joining me now, sophia robinson, managing editor and reporter for the cornell daily son. also here with us as rabbi ari weiss, executive director of cornell. hello, thank you both of you for being here. let me begin with you, sophia, because you were actually at the arraignment, today. what was patrick days's

demeanor like inside the courtroom? >> thank you for having me. his demeanor -- he was very straight faced throughout the hearing. he was looking down, primarily up. he said, yes, your honor to a few questions, and is now being detained. >> what are students saying today on campus about the fact that he -- this is an actual student. there were questions about whether it was somebody coming, and anybody could've posted or could have accessed that the actual posting. but the fact that it is a cornell student -- what have the students been saying about that? >> students are extremely disheartened to hear that this is a threat within our community. the students we spoke to said that campus as a whole belt off and strange today as they are trying to grapple with this news. >> rabbi wise, thinking about the distrust that must be fermenting, here. we are talking about looking and wondering who is speaking this way, it is a student who

believes this, who is threatening in this way. this could have been and already was an ugly attack on the community, there. i am wondering how you are counseling students tonight in the wake of this arrest. >> so, thank you for having me, and i will just say that, yes, there is some relief that the person who made these threats was caught. there is really some sense that someone part of the cornell community made those. there is a lot of sadness. i think at some level, these threats arise from over the last three weeks, there has been rising antisemitism around the country on college campuses including cornell. i think there is something about these threats that art manifested in part of this culture of antisemitism. but i tell students that, be proud. the response to antisemitism is not too high to judaism but to

stand to gather, be proud, affirmed your jewish identity. this friday night, we are going back to one of our -- where the kosher dining hall is, or andra's of students are coming together, finding community together, joining together, affirming our tradition, and standing tall as jewish students. >> i was talking to sofia at the other day when this was first happening, and it had not been and i rest. no one had been identified, rabbi, and we were learning as well that there were students who were changing their behavior on account of the threats. some were not attending classes, some were not wanting to display or otherwise speak about their heritage or religion in any way, and some are also traveling in groups from place to place in a kind of buddy system to try and cope with what is happening. something like this can have a lasting effect on a feeling of see the. are you hearing from students in light of the arrest that they still feel some lingering feelings of unsafe?

>> i think it will be a process. as i was saying before, there has been a process and culture of antisemitism at cornell as many college campuses. i think it will take some time for a corner to be turned. but we have had such a great response from cornell university police department to step up and say, we are here and we support you and we have seen strong statements from the university president. just today she announced a number of initiatives to fight antisemitism at cornell through education, which is in line with the work that cornell has been doing. we bring educators to campus, we are educated -- committed to educating cornell about antisemitism, about its history, and about ways of fighting antisemitism. i think at the core is to fight hate with light, with affirmation, with coming together and standing strong.

it will take weeks, it will take months, but i think we will be able to turn a corner. >> sophia, i want to know more about what the administration is doing and how are they intending to change, or have they already changed, some policies or procedures to prevent this from happening again? i assume it has to be on the one hand broad to capture other hateful speech, on the other hand very specific and nuanced to suggest what has just happened. >> yes, so, in light of these events, the university announced today that they will be canceling classes on friday to have a community day, citing extraordinary stress that patients are under. they are really encouraging students to try and recuperate and process the events that have happened recently at our campus. as the rabbi said, there are increasing initiatives to combat antisemitism and other forms of hatred on our campus. >> he mentioned some educational moments as well to, be teaching. is that through a core -- do you know if it is through a core curriculum, and elective,

part of an add on to the already existing syllabus, or slow by, excuse me, that are happening right now? >> the university hasn't released any details about what this will look like, but we will continue to fend out details in the coming days, i am sure. >> when you look at it that they will be having the community day on friday, classes are canceled, having students try to process and reflect independently can sometimes be a very difficult task because there is a lot of feelings clustering together. what are you intending to do? is there some directive or moments that you are hoping to achieve in order to have people reflect as a part of the community? >> so, i think that is a place that cornell steps and. i am one of the rabbis on our team. we have two other rabbis and we have 14 staff members, educators. we have folks who have the relationships with students, and throughout the last three weeks, including this past week, we have been there for students.

we have been there supporting students, we have been there to process what students. right when we heard of the attacks on late friday afternoon, we were at the center for jewish living on 104 west within minutes to beat with students and sit with students and show that we are supporting students. so, this will be a continuation of the work that we do. we have those relationships with students, we are there for them, we are there to listen, because at the core of pastoral listening and pastoral support is to listen to people and not to minimize what is happening, but to say, we hear you. we hear you, let's talk about it, let's talk about what is important, let's talk about how we can move beyond this. >> sophia, obviously we are talking a lot about what is happening, specifically at cornell. the sad reality is that this is happening maybe not to the same extent or four different contacts, across campuses all across this country. are you hearing about this happening at other campuses?

are you hearing from friends that you know about what is happening there, to? >> we are definitely hearing from a lot of other peer newspapers, specifically at the sun, about -- not to the same extent that is happening here, but there were recent events at columbia university and as a whole, when governor kathy hochul spoke at the center for jewish living on monday, she spoke about how antisemitism is on the rise across college campuses. it is not unique to cornell. so, this is definitely a trend that we are seeing. >> we are also hearing that -- christopher wray, the fbi director, spoke about the increase by hundreds of percentage points of incidents of antisemitism, also increases in islamophobia as well, and thinking about this more broadly, as there -- you heard about the pure newspapers, the rabbi, are you having coordinated conversations with other pastoral entities at different universities and college settings, because i would

assume that there needs to be, in some respect, a police print or lessons that could be learned, as unfortunate as that sounds. >> so, we are very fortunate that we are an affiliate of -- international, and we are part of a network of hundreds of -- around the country and the world. we are and regular contact with them to share and support each other. >> sophia rubensson, rabbi ari weiss, thank you so much for bringing us this information, hopefully things will get better. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> look, civilians are finally allowed to leave gaza, but it doesn't mean that everyone has gone, far from it. of the trapped, only hundreds have been able to leave. i will talk with families from texas who have loved ones who are still stuck there, after this.

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>> now, i want you to try to imagine what this is like. you are trapped in a war zone, surrounded by literally thousands of people who are just as desperate as you to get out, desperate to escape, to protect their families. we are talking children that are there, bombs falling from the sky, ground troops advancing, and you get the word from the department to's head to the border. you know how that word comes down? a list is posted daily. that is how you find out if you will be able to get out. imagine everyone's name is not

on that list, only a few hundred people who have been on that list have even made it through. can you try to imagine that fear, the desperation? amazon what that would feel like and what you would try to do. some americans did make it out today and the first wave of foreign nationals to be evacuated. like 71 year old ramona, a u.s. citizen, a prosthetics expert, who was making prosthetics for gazan children. >> we are so happy that she is one of the five that could leave, but we also hold in our hearts the rest of the people that remain stranded and hope they can be evacuated safely. >> the rest, we are talking about a huge number of people, and there are still many who are desperately, hoping, to get out. the state department would not give details on the extent of the numbers. earlier tonight, i spoke with a texas woman, haifa code, whose husband hysham is trapped in

gaza. hysham traveled to gaza with his two brothers and nephew on september 27th, about a week before the start of the war. they had planned only to spend about two weeks they're on vacation. listen to the nightmare of not finding her loved one's name on this all-important list that says you get to leave. >> he went there and when he came back from there, he said they did not allow me to get in, and they said, your aim is not on the list. just wait till your name is there. so, almost an hour ago, i kept waiting the whole day for the list. they uploaded the list on their website, i checked all names, it has hundreds of names, but it hasn't -- it has two of his brothers, the elder one, but not him or his other brother or nephew. >> in his talks and texts with

you, is he in danger? >> yes. the bombing -- it is a small area and there is no safe place. >> i was going to say, haifa, it is hard, even when i hear you talk about this, it is hard for me obviously because i am a mother as well. i have a nine and ten year old. i am watching a young girl with you right now, and you and i are talking about how scary it is for your husband. how is your daughter understanding or holding up through all of this? what are you telling her >>? >> she knows he is stuck there, and she thinks about him in the night. she will ask me every day, when is he coming back? because israeli people --

read a story to her, put her to bed, i am always busy with has things and he was the one who would take care of her. >> well, haifa, we will be thinking of you and your family. thank you so much for joining us this evening and i am so sorry that you are forced to search that list, waiting for your left want to come home. thank you for joining us, tonight. joining me now, lori roberts, one of the loved ones and during the agonizing wait for some word. five of his family members were taken by hamas. his aunt, who was later found deceased along the gaza border, her longtime partner, his cousin, and her two little daughters. norah, thank you for being here this evening. we have been watching this and you have been struggling with watching from afar, thinking about what is happening to your left once compared to what your life is like here in the united states. can you describe what this has

been like for you? >> first of all, thank you for having me, it has been almost three weeks and it has been very, very hard time for me and my family. we have been out there looking for any clues for any sign of life. as you mentioned in the intro, i and passed away and we were buried her next to my mom's grave. temporary burial, that was the location and when i last saw her, in that funeral three months ago by my mom's grave, it has been a really rough time since then. we are trying to hold our family and loved ones together. we are trying to find any signs of life. there is another sixth member of the family, my aunt, previous marriage, adopted son that he was pronounced kidnapped and then missing and then back to kidnapped.

we don't know what's happened to him. his name is reviewed cuts, 51 years old, and she was part of the emergency response team that went to try and defend the community, the kibbutz. we don't know what happens to him. there is no news, there is a long count of bodies that still need to be identified because of the horrific and action of the hamas terrorist that butchered them and left nothing to identify them. so either that way or another, we hopefully to find some kind of news about him. it has been really hard time for me and my family to deal with that every single day and then going to a funeral and coming back. we are holding our kids tightly. you mentioned you have kids, so to lie and those little girls are held and captive still with their mom. they lost their grandma on the way to gaza in front of their

eyes. it is horrifying, it is many sleepless nights and nightmares and the feeling of helplessness, feeling of not knowing what is next or when things will happen. it is just really hard on us all. >> dori, on that point especially, waiting for the information that isn't coming. we do see there have been releases of hostages. only four have been released and one also rescued. given that, how do you hold on to hope that there will be continued negotiations and their return? >> i think it is a great question, it is actually in the same way that the people who are waiting to get out of gaza strip into egypt and going back home. and they are trying to wait for their name to appear on the list. same on our side. hoping for the negotiation to

lead to somewhere and hopefully sooner than later we will be able to find what happens or any signs of life. sometimes you see videos published by the hamas of the hostages, and that gives us some hope that they are held in good conditions and taken care of their health and needs, but we just don't know where they are. and we hope that other players in the region like germany, england, france, whoever, egypt, jordan, will help to keep the negotiation alive and keep hope for our relatives town and gaza to come back home to our family and our loved ones. that is a daily struggle, sometimes an hour by hour struggle, but we have to keep going and be strong for each other at times like that. like i said, it is really up to the negotiation teams out there to make progress. >> dori, one hope is what you have, you have to cling to it

with both hands. thank you so much for being here with us tonight, appreciated. >> thank you so much, thank you for having me. >> one of the most polarizing and perhaps legendary figures in college sports has passed away. we remember coach bobby knight, next.

>> hall of fame basketball coach bobby knight has died at the age of 83. he won three national championships with indiana. former duke university coach mike krzyzewski, known as coach k, said, quote we lost one of

the greatest coaches in the history of the basketball today. basketball today. clearly, he was one-of-a-kind. coach knight recruited me, mentored me, and had a profound impact on my career and my life. cnn sports analyst christine brennan joins me now. christine, can't think of anyone better than you who has interviewed him multiple times and watched the span of his career to be with me on set today, and i appreciate that so much. he was known as very outspoken, he was a controversial figure as well, also beloved. tell me about that tension. >> and indiana, bringing gain those three national championships and men's basketball and being an iconic leader, i am sure people are very sad, today, those who cheered for indiana. texas tech, he had an amazing career. olympic gold matter in 84 at the olympics, he coached that team. i covered that team, i covered him than. there are many who just love them, and the players who played for him also, obviously, praise him and say that he

changed their lives. there is that side, and the other side is the man who, i could think of five or six things along that i have read or remembered over the last couple of hours, laura, that would have been fireable at any job in the country today, and probably even at the last five years. and that includes him choking on shape -- choking one of his players on tape in 2000, or, 97. then, grabbing a kid on campus who was going after him in 2000, which led to his firing and indiana. and in an interview in 1988, he said if sexual assault is inevitable, relax and enjoy it. that is what bobby knight said about rape. so, you think about him, and he really was a fixture and an icon of a generation that is no longer around, and i think many

people listening to this might say, think goodness. that he could survive and say these things and to do these things put tampons and players lockers because they played like a girl, you know, to be critical of them. all of these things that are egregious, that are acceptable in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, that would be of course completely unacceptable today, especially as we look out for the mental health of athletes, as we have talked about, you and i, simone biles, naomi osaka, michael phelps, all of those. and of course, the abuse of athletes. at his core, bobby knight was and abuser of young people, as we tensaw, with him trying to choke -- actually, going after one player, choking him with his hands around his neck. that would not be acceptable in our society today, and i think that is absolutely correct, it shouldn't be acceptable in our society today. >> the characteristic of an abuser of players is one that many would take some umbrage to, given -- they will remember, frankly,

the whence they will remember him as a -- as a powerhouse they remember all those things and look and listen to what you have just said and say, why, how dare you? why are you not focusing on the things that he did well in his passing? >> because we are talking about a man who was a public figure who died, and so he is newsworthy and death as he lived his life. he was fired by indiana. that is a fact, that is a part of his by, or. or as i started out, i praised him and talked about how much he is loved by his players. i mean, i didn't praise him, but i talked about the players who looked into him, as he shaped every one of them and he looks -- they look at him as -- that is notable and should be remembered. but the facts are the facts, and again, i think it is really interesting to look at him and the timeframe that he lift and thrived and was an iconic figure. i cheered for his team's. that 1975, 76 indiana

basketball team? it is the last undefeated men's division i basketball team, to this day that was an iconic team that a kid like me and toledo, a high okauchee or for. absolutely, my siblings went to icu, they loved bobby knight, but they also realized it was time for him to go. and again, looking at him through the prism and the lens now of 2023, we see that some of these things are incredibly egregious, and i'm sure many people hearing that for the first time are like, how did this man even thrive and get the jobs that he did? again, a mixed bag and a very controversial and contradictory image of a man who we have lost and is certainly worthy of discussion. but clearly, there are two sides to the story. >> eyes wide open, christine brennan, thank you for bringing us all that information, i appreciate it. >> sure. >> there are also text messages that have been released tonight from an army reservist, reporting how concerned he was about the main shooter. i will show you this text memessages after this.

>> there are newly-released text messages revealing the extent of concern over the maine shooters state of mind before his rampage and lewiston, maine, killing 18 people. the texts were from an army reservist saying that he believed that robert card was quote, messed up in the head, unquote, and feared that he could, and i am quoting again, snap and do a mass shooting. this evening, we learned that president biden and the first lady plan to travel to lewiston on friday to pay their respects to families affected by the tragedy. tonight, people in the winthrop community held a candlelight vigil to remember 14-year-old aaron young.

erin and his father, bill, were among those killed at the bowling alley. i want to thank you all for watching live coverage continues after a short break.