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to receive $1,500 off your kohler® walk-in bath. and take advantage of our low monthly payment financing. hi, everyone. i'm jessica dean along syce boris sanchez here in washington and cnn special coverage of the israel-hamas war. moments ago an idf spokesperson said israeli soldiers completed encirclement of gaza city nearly a week after expanding their ground operation into gaza. a short time ago secretary of state antony blinken departing for israel with a new u.s. ambassador to that nation jackjack liu. finding concrete steps to minimize harm to civilians in
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gaza facing on average several hundred israeli strikes a day. more than 9,000 people killed in gaza since the hms. t hamas tear ef attack october 7th. >> it's very much on the agenda when i see a palestinian child, a boy, a girl pulled from the rubble of a collapsed building, that hits me in the gut as much as seeing a child in israel or anywhere else. >> notably, more americans today able to get out of the war-torn territory. some 20 to 25 u.s. citizens trapped now in egypt. according to an egyptian border official. starts, though, with cnn's jamey diamond in israel. what are you learning about movements in gaza city, the idea saying they have the city enc encircled?
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>> reporter: yeah. that's right, boris. over the last 24 hours we've been learning more how israeli forces are approaching gaza city. the sholtronghold. at the gates then told operating inside the city approaching from the north and the south. now just moments ago, israel's military spokesman rear admiral daniel saying completed its encirclement of gaza saying the israeli engineering, army's engineering corps, is working to locate and neutralize underground infrastructure, explosives and other threats so that israeli forces can operate freely inside the city. and i believe we're getting a -- getting a siren, boris. i'm going to move to the side here. going to move inside. quee we're just going to move inside,
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guys. okay. do the -- can you guys still hear me? >> we can still hear -- well could, still hear. >> seems we lost his senate there. obviously a very fluid situation on the ground. >> yes, yes. >> multiple signals. >> we'll check in with him as we need to, let's take cover. melissa, the evacuations. how many were able to leave there today and go to egypt and what are people telling you as you're talking to them? >> reporter: already, jessica, seen several hundred foreign nationals coming from the rafah crossing into the egypt including several dozens americans as well. bringing with them, of course, their stories about what's been happening inside. bear in mind these people coming out now are especially aid workers or foreigners visiting family in the gaza strip or
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indeed fon foreigners based wit think other nationalities, other passports with them saying they found themselves on the wrong side of the line october 7th and ever since desperately trying to get out. what they bring with them are stories about how difficult that's been for them. the whole process of getting themselves to be able to cross and also what's happening to civilians. we heard from one american woman, one of the first a doctor evacuated last night, about the fact no one, nowhere, is safe in gaza right now. i think these stories that they're bringing with them are very important for the world at this stage to hear. but it is a very different process. it's a very chaotic krprocess a important to remember while inspections aid in is slow really egyptian security kearns m kearns making it difficult. they vowed all will get out. reason for the rafah crossing
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remained closed firmly and opened ever so slightly and with such difficulty at all is because egypt is extremely wary of what's happening. bear in mind what happened october 7th did happen in a vacuum. israel and egypt only signed their own peace deal in 1979 after 30 years in a state of war. a country now in the hands of military very concerned who is coming over its border and what the wider implications forral foughtout will be through regional stability. i think more of those things explain why it's such a tedious process for families desperately hoping for news of their loved ones across the rafah border. >> thanks for that update. back to jeremy diamond. having to quickly rush inside as air sirens were going off. jeremy, glad to see that you're okay. >> reporter: yeah, boris. this is life here. right? sirens go off. folks rush indoors a few
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minutes. wait for the all-clear. we heard one interception overhead. back to what i talked about. israeli forces are closing in, encircling gaza city now. what interesting about that even as they are moving in to that hamas stronghold, the largest city in the gaza strip, also they are dealing with hamas fighters on the outskirts of that city and, in fact, in the north-most part of gaza where israeli tanks and troops initially moved in, we were, today, across the border from the northeastern most city in gaza city and could hear active fighting through the day. both artillery, mortar rounds going off. small arms fire between israeli forces and hamas militants. clearly even as israeli forces move into the more urban areas now, they are still dealing with fighters on the outskirts and part of that is because of that tunnel infrastructure that hamas has built over years and years. dozens of miles of tunnels where they not only are able to evade
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israeli forces and also can potentially ambush them. we know that's been happening over the left several days as we approach the seventh day of this expanded israeli ground operation. >> all right. jeremy, thanks so much. appreciate that reporting and stay safe. we want to dig deeper with someone who is close to folks that are stuck near gaza's border. our next guest is a palestinian american woman whose mother and sister are in that situation right now. family hoping to cross into egypt and spending several days in that process hoping to get out. joining us now live from houston, thank you for being with us. appreciate your time and you sharing your family's story with us. we understand that your mom and sister got to the rafah crossing. your mom on a lift ast your mome
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to get out not your sister. the fourth time turned away. tell us more? >> right. unfortunately as you said it's the fourth time my mom and sister made the journey to the rafah crossing point and also the fourth time they've been turned away. my mom's name was on the list of people approved to leave today but my sister's name wasn't. obviously, one is not going to leave without the other. so they went together and unfortunately they were unable to cross. on my end i tried to call the embassies, and cairo and jerusalem. tried to contact the state department here in the u.s. and unfortunately i couldn't really get ahold of anyone to give me some sort of concrete guidance or a direction to move forward. it's been completely just, nothing short of chaotic, and -- i'm worried for the safety of my mom and my sister. you know? they're trapped. sometimes without food, water, and electricity, as bombs are dropping and flying above their heads. and, you know, the only way to
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ensure safety and the safety of millions of palestinians is to call for a cease-fire. >> would you, please, tell us more about your mom and sister? what you want the world to know about your family? >> sure. my mom and sister are just normal american civilians. like any other. we pay our taxes. we go to school. we go work. we're normal people just like any other people, and it's upsetting to see that we're treated like second-class citizens and there's no sense of urgency by the state department in evacuating palestinian americans from gaza. i know the sentiment is not only true for me but so many other people who have family members stuck in gaza. americans, and israel, evacuated october 15th. meanwhile, americans in gaza have been waiting for over 25 days without any sort of concrete guidance or direction on how things are going to proceed. so it's been really chaotic.
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it's been very stressful for not only my family but so many other families, and we feel like you know, we're being torn apart. >> what is communication with your mom and sister like? i imagine it's got to be difficult? >> for sure. it's definitely difficult. sometimes i'm able to contact them. last week i went almost 48 hours without speaking to them or just knowing if they're okay. when they connect to wi-fi and cell service. it happened again earlier this week but thankfully a shorter amount of tile. still things are really unstable. there's a lot of uncertainty, and we don't know direction things are going to take. i'm just hoping that they're able to leave soon, and i'm grateful that there's a chance for them, because for so many people in gaza, that's not the case. >> all right. mai, i'm curious. you said you tried to speak to people within the biden
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administration, state department, et cetera, why a discrepancy with your sister not being on the same list your mom was. did your mom or sister give you any indication what message they got when they tried to cross? did you get any clarity as to why your sister wasn't on the list? >> unfortunately, we did not receive any clarity whether from people at the border or from the state department. other than just the fact that her name is not on the list. and this, this kind of treatment is the reason why my family's actually suing the biden administration, because we believe they failed to live up to their responsibilities to protect american citizens, and we feel like that this is a violation of our constitutional rights and we are actively -- engaging in this lawsuit to pressure the united states government to safely bring our family home. >> what would your message be to president biden, since that's the case that you're suing the administration? >> my message to president biden
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would be that we need to treat all american citizens equally and take some sort of urgent action and approach the matter with some urgency. people are losing their lives. there's no food, water, no electricity. the only way to ensure safety of not only my family but 2.3 million palestinians is by calling for a cease-fire. i'm terrified for my friends and family in gaza. and evacuation can't be the only way to find safety. palestinians like all people are entitled to their own homes and i'm call canning on president biden and his entire administration to call for a cease-fire to end this siege on gaza. >> appreciate your story and time with us. thanks for the perspective. >> thank you so much. >> of course. so unicef says more than 400 children reportedly killed or injured every day. 400 every day, in gaza. it since the israeli bombardment
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a tense moment in a new york courtroom. donald trump's son eric responding angrily to a line of questioning by a state attorney and his family business fraud trial. what happened? >> reporter: yeah. listen, jessica, eric trump one of the defendants in this case, remember, the states attorneys are trying to move he along with his brother, father, other members of trump org worked together to create a fraud scheme with the financial documents, and basically
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evaluation of properties they have in their portfolio. the questions are really pointing to those financial statements. how much was eric trump a part of the preparation of those? even how much does he even know about financial statements? it's important to know earlier in the testimony of eric trump he basically said i didn't know anything about financial statements until this attorney general's investigation started a few years ago. but seems like the attorney general's office is catching him in some contradictions. point out one to you in this graphic. put up for you. the attorney, assistant state's attorney general says you did know about your father's annual financial statement as of august 20, 2013. didn't you? eric trump responds, it appears that way, yes. the state's attorney keeping up with a line of questioning pointing out contradictions, seeming seemingly contradictions through phone calls emails and prior deposition of eric trump trying to show he had nknowledge of th statements and in fact helped prepare them. sort of why a it's getting tense
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on the stand. at some point eric raises his vis voice on the stand. a little more tense than donald trump jr. when he took the stand three hours he continued to distance limbs from any preparation of the documents as eric is try to do as well and talked to cameras after leaving, after he got off the stand. hear what he had to say . >> how did it go? >> know what? i think it went -- really well. if we were actually dealing with logic and reason the way business is conducted. unfortunately the attorney general has brought forth a case that is purely a political persecution. >> reporter: don jr. repeating some of the things hi father has often said to the cameras as well. comes to the civil fraud trial. keep in mind this entire family has their business, livelihood trump organization at stake. eric trump, again, on the stand still. see how long this lasts.
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court wraps up at 4:30. see if he comes back tomorrow. we'll keep you updated. >> thanks. boris. turning back now to the middle east and the situation in gauzar. the idf followed a weeks' long campaign of airstrikes with an expanded ground operation. the idf saying it's completely encircled gaza city and described it as center of hamas activity and their goal to eradicate hamas once and for all. for our next guest, who says there's a smarter way to do it. writing for cnn.com, political science professor arguing israel is likely "producing more terrorists than it's killing." he joins us now and directs university of chicago's project on security and threats. sir, thank you for being with us. you say overwhelming military force will not work in this situation. why? >> the key to defeating a terrorist group like hamas is
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separating the hamas terrorists from the local population. unfortunately the order by israel to have over a million palestinians go from the north to the south is not meaningful in this regard. in fact, what you are seeing is hundreds of thousands have not left, and they haven't left for a variety of reasons. many are too old. many too young. to infirm. need help in hospitals. others staying behind to care for them. what you are seeing is that the thousands of civilian casualties, over 8,000, are occurring as these military operations are going forward, and these are becoming ripe for recruitment by hamas. in fact, what you're likely going see is israel will produce more terrorists than it kills. this is because the operation itself is unifying hamas and the
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local palestinian population. >> so what could israel be doing differently to differentiate between parts of hamas and the palestinian population? are there any successful military campaigns in history to point to as an example? >> the key is to understand that israel needs a new strategic conception for how to defeat hamas. right now israel is going in heavy-first with a heavy-duty military campaign, and then thinking about the politics later. this is a mistake. we've seen this mistake and israel has seen this mistake over and over. in the early 1980s. israel invaded southern lebanon with nearly 80,000 ground forces. 3,000 tanks to go after
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palestinian terrorists in southern lebanon. that is the operation that produced hezbollah which did not exist before, and hezbollah's grown stronger and stronger and stronger ever since. instead of the current strategy, israel should consider an alternative. that is, where israel separates from the beginning and politically, the palestinian population from hamas. the best way to do that is not to wait until later, months from now, to think about the political process, but to think today, as the military operations are occurring, about establishing a pathway towards a palestinian state. this way the palestinian people would have a true alternative to the hamas terrorists and this would politically drive a wedge between the palestinian population and hamas. if that doesn't happen, if we
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stick with -- if israel sticks with the current strategy of heavy, going heavy now and for months, worrying about the political part later, if ever, the palestinian population will have nowhere else to go but to support hamas. hamas numbers will likely grow each day that this new strategy is not adopted. >> i'm wondering how israel tactically goes about differentiating between terrorists and people in just a normal population? because i don't think there's a track record especially in the history of organizations like hamas, of terrorists coming forward declaring that their terrorists. seems like a very complicated process. how could the idea go about doing it? >> boris, the problem you identify of tactically separating a terrorist from a non-terrorist today is only the
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smaller part of the problem. what i'm pointing to is at the very effort to kill terrorists today can lead to massive civilian collateral damage, more casualties, and these folks have families. they have cousins. they have brothers who can become terrorists tomorrow. so the effort to kill terrorists today, even when successful in killing the terrorists, can ultimately produce more terrorists weeks from now, months from now, and produce a new, larger generation that isn't mobilized right now. so the problem isn't just the tactics how you identify this from foe, this is a narrow part of the problem. the bigger issue is how do you separate politically the population of the palestinians, who are not terrorists, from
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hamas, and how do you stop that local population from joining hamas in the future? that's why we need a new conception, which right from the beginning joined the military operation with a serious political plan to have a pathway to palestinian statehood. this would create a real opportunity, a real alternative for the palestinian people. otherwise, they've got nothing, no choice, but to end up supporting hamas. >> we have to leave the conversation there. robert pape. a fascinating way to look at the future potentially of that re region. thanks for being with us. >> thank you, boris. >> of course. coming up, unicef calling for an immediate humanitarian cease-fire in gaza. a spokesperson from unicef will join us in just moments.
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thanks so much for coming on. we know the executive director of unicef spoke to the u.n. security council this week in part calling for a cease-fire and especially for the protection of children. that being said, at this moment it does not appear a cease-fire is happening in the immediate future. so what kl you do to help those civilians who need the thaep you're trying to give? >> -- 25 days for children. we have reportedly over 3.6,000 children killed since beginning of the conflict. 7,000 at least reportedly injured. that's an average of over 420 children either killed or injured every day. so what we're trying to call for, what we are appealing for, a an immediate humanitarian
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cease-fire so these numbers can hold. imagine for example if we get a three-day hold we're saving nearly 1,000 children already, or more. so for now, that's what unicef is doing. calling for a cease-fire. calling for immediate release of hostages as well that are being held in gaza and on the ground our colleagues, or gur great colleagues staying delivering trying to get support best we can. the situation is desperate. supplies getting in and they are not sufficient. whatever is happening on the ground with children, they are not safe. there is no safe place for them to stay and for unicef, unless we have that space to work to operate distribute our supplies to, logistics aligned with partners on the ground and corridors open. not only in rafah, other corridors as well, it becomes very difficult to deliver for children and the real cost of this war will be measured in
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children's lives. >> and you mentioned the rafah border crossing, which is now allowing for palestinians to get out of gaza, but additionally to that there are some aid trucks able to get in. are you hopeful that that can at least provide some aid? how do you think that opening of that gate and that crossing affects your efforts? >> well, jessica, at this point any effort is a glimpse of hope for hundreds of thousands of children suffering in gaza. some of them under the rubble, still lost. some of them seeing their houses collapse. their parents being killed. so they're traumatized. they're scared and they need support. they need to feel like the world is somewhat engaging and trying to take them out of this hell situation that they live right now. unicef managed to get 34 trucks
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into gaza, which is a very small number compared to the needs. it's a small jdrop in the ocean. obviously good to have supplies getting in good to have clean water getting in, some food, some medical supplies and hygiene kits so they don't, children don't drink contaminated water and exposed to waterborne diseases but it's not enough. little compared to the needs on the ground. >> i know there have been intermittent communications blackouts there in gaza. you have staff, you mentioned, on the ground there. how are you communicating with them logistically how is that working? >> so whenever communications are established we nothing get in touch with our staff are and we can account for their safety, but when the lights are out, that's when we are really concerned about what's happening on the ground. not only to our staff but also to children. let's remind the audience half
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of the population in gaza is of minors of 18, 0 to 18 years of age. so it's a whole generation being threatened by conflict and violence and, again, unicef is calling for that humanitarian cease fire and release of all hauf hostages so children can stop paying the highest price. >> and you mention hostages, children as well. ka regardo thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. still ahead, the suspect in tupac shakur's murder just h appeared in court. details on that, next.
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sources tell cnn the fbi execute add search warrant today at the home of brianna suggs, chief political fund-raiser for new york city's mayor. sources say the fbi agent took phones computers tablets and files from suggs' home. what prompted that search, though, remains unclear. sources say the fbi also searched several other homes as well as a brooklyn-based construction company. mayor eric adams' office referred all questions to his political campaign saying it would comply with any inquiries as operate. a short time ago duane keith davis pleaded not guilty to the 1996 murder of tupac shakur in a nevada courtroom. 1 stephanie elam is following the
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case. what can you tell us? >> reporter: a quick moment in core, boris, as we heard davis actually enter his plea and hearing from the prosecutors they do not intend to seek the death penalty in this case. now, he was arraigned today. supposed to happen two weeks ago but the judge allowed him time to find legal counsel. out of, that didn't happen and he was given public defenders today. the judge said she wants to continue to get this court case moving along. obviously, this was one of the biggest mysteries, who killed tupac shakur? and law enforcement officials have put enough together to say they believe it was davis. also pointing to his own statement saying he was actually there in that white cadillac just over 27 years ago that pulled up next to the vehicle that tupac shakur was in. he was shot four times and died six days later. interesting to note that the other three people in that cadillac have already passed on, but what law enforcement officials say is they do believe
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he was the one calling the shots. davis was calling the shots that led to this tracking down of tupac shakur and ultimately to his shooting. this is just the beginning of it. the next time that they will see proceedings in this, possibly could see davis in court, is on november 7th. obviously things getting started here in one of the biggest misties in hip-hop and rap. who killed tupac shakur? law enforcement say they know who it is and that it is the person that goes by davis. and a black man beaten by police officers in january. one of the five officers charged pleaded guilty to state and federal charges and now cooperating in that investigation. cnn's ryan young is following the case. what are the new details you're learning? >> reporter: so important when you think about the country gripped by this video. video so excessive and difficult to watch. people reacted to it. as we show you the video, look,
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did is important to remember this was caught on a pole camera. he ran from officers after being pulled over and you see continuing for 31 minutes. one of the officers desmond mills jr. pleaded guilty to obsessive force and obstruction of justice and state-related charges. you can understand, very painful for not only the city of memphis but tyre nichols family who can't understand why he was beaten so savagely. >> this big man -- he looks to be about 200 pounds was beating up on my son. so just imagine. 200 times 5. that's 1,000 pounds beating up on my son. this is really the first time i actually heard somebody tell and say what they actually did to my
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son. >> to hear how this man beat our son with a baton several times. a man that -- weighs twice what my son weighs, waited on other officers to come and kick and beat and punch him was very, very difficult for me and my wife to listen to. for that same officer to plead guilty to all the charges was a great day for our family. >> jessica, actually talked to ben crump this afternoon saying he is pleased how the federal investigators moved forward. let's not forget desmond mills helping in this case. this young man enjoyed skateboarding and taking pictures and of course, on the internet you can see the great pictures taken on instagram. this community remembers the fact that during this beating he was calling out for his mother
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over and over again as he was beaten by those officers. even at the end of it didn't even seem they rendered aid before he died. just a tough story and now these steps are finally taking place. jessica? >> certainly. i remember that video. it is haunting hearing him calling out for his mother. ryan young, thanks so much. up next, how artificial intelligence is spreading false claims and conspiracy theories on one of the world's most visited websites.
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led to publishing bizarre stories. >> not just silly stories about bigfoot or elvis babies. they're serious showing up on one of the world's most highly trafficked websites where millions get their news every day. donie o'sullivan joins us. all came as microsoft laid off journalists and starting having a.i. do their work? >> reporter: that right. look, msn.com, people remember, might be surprised it is still a huge, massive home page for so many people. it's because when you buy a new pc or laptop often times phones or tablets now it comes with windows, microsoft software loaded up on to it already. as a result people have a microsoft home page. on the home pages they put news. a lot of times news from credible major news organizations including cnn, and
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until 2018 microsoft said it had 800 editors working around the world curating this experience to make sure that misinformation wasn't making its way on to these home pages viewed the by hundreds of millions of people. well what we have learned through speaking to people that have been laid off by microsoft and others, what's going on at the company, they basically replaced most, if not all, editors with artificial intelligence. we've seen reporting on this in the past months is all of these incredibly false stories including a lot of stories about president biden supposedly falling asleep at a memorial and minute of silence for the maui wildfire victims. hyperpartisan stories that are attacking as it happens democrats and president biden, but then also kind of random stories. for instance, saying that a
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politician in california resigned over a scandal which just didn't happen at all. one other was an obituary for a former nba player who died unexpectedly. this used using a.i. called this nba player useless. so all of these things are happening. microsoft kind of apologizes each time but nothing seems to change. >> sounds like that's about it. you just get an apology but it keeps happening? >> reporter: yeah. look, we asked microsoft questions about this and gave them actually a month to respond. they had very, very few specifics and wouldn't say how many editors they still employ. put out a vag statement saying they are reviewing this processes and wanted these things to live up to their standards. clearly, who knows how it's working. >> fascinating the way a.i. is turning out the stories.
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it's all because of you ♪ >> okay. while you decide if you like it or not, john lennon wrote and recorded the demo of the song in 1980s. where it starts. remains beatles worked on it but unable to separate his voice from the sound of the piano. in 1981 george harrison died. ringo starr and paul mccartney stopped working on the song more than two decades. >> where a.i. comes in. isolating lennon's voice for a k docuseries, and voila, maybe best left on the cutting room floor. what do you think? >> it is slow. does not have a fast pace. but that's okay. >> it does not. >> the only thing, new music. >> likely see much more of it coming soon. jessica, thanks. >> thanks for having me. >> back tomorrow. >> yes. >> see
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