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and finally tonight, a home coming for three giant pandas who just three days ago called the d.c. national zoo home. they're now back in china and quarantining after they were boxed up wednesday and fedexed back to southwest china. d.c. zoo staff are calling this a, quote, hiatus in their wildly popular panda program. but chinese officials are mum on if they'll ever return. that is because u.s. relations with china have been deteriorating for years. and beijing has been busy rewarding its new friends with pandas, like russia, which got a new pair in 2019, and qatar, which got its first panda last year. as for the u.s., atlanta is the only zoo to still feature pandas from china. that contract expires next year, and there's still no word on an extension. thank you so much for joining us. us. "ac 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening.
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just ahead, tonight the mayor of new york, the former police captain, confronted by fbi agents and seized his phones and ipad as what appears to be a fast growing campaign finance investigation. we begin with israel's war in hamas, most notably the efforts to secure the hostages now believed to be held by hamas and other groups. it comes at the end of the day that saw israeli forces heavily pound targets in northern gaza from the air and troops on the ground continued to engage. the senior american official familiar with the hostage talks tells cnn that negotiators are working toward an agreement involving what this official call ls a sustained days-long pause in the fighting. in exchange, hostages would be freed on a rolling basis, starting with women and children over a period of days. that same official added that many details remain unresolved and negotiations could stall or break down at any point. also comments by secretary of state antony blinken gets more
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attention. secretary of state antony blinken raised concerns about the death toll in gaza and pushed for more in the way of humanitarian aid, beyond the daily pauses in fighting, to allow civilians to get out. >> far too many palestinians have been killed. far too many have suffered these past weeks. and we want to do everything possible to prevent harm to them and to maximize the assistance that gets to them. >> cnn's nic robertson starts us off from where some of the video we showed you was taken, just across the border from northern gaza. what have you been seeing and hearing in recent hours? >> reporter: just in fact heard a very heavy detonation, anderson, coming from behind us where that fighting was taking place earlier. we think it's the jabalia refugee camp. and it appeared as if there was an intense fire fight because flares were dropped and a smoke screen created on the ground, which is normally what we've seen when the idf forces believe
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they've come into contact with a number of hamas fighters. we saw what appeared to be missiles coming in from above, perhaps heavy machine gun fire from an apache gunship but a very, very intense battle. significant because it's just a few miles into the north of gaza. troops have been on the ground there for two weeks already, and yet they still find themselves in these very heavy confrontations with hamas. and that's given that they still have many, many, many miles more to go in gaza before it can be cleared. which gives the understanding that this will be a very, very long military operation indeed, if it's going to succeed as the idf lays out, anderson. >> is it clear to you what exactly these pauses that israel has agreed to, seemingly under u.s. pressure, kind of, rolling pauses at different times? what that's going to look like?
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>> reporter: they do seem to be -- yeah, they do seem to be principally based on the idea that we're seeing these humanitarian corridors that have allowed tens of thousands of people to move from the north to the south. that begets another question as well that i'll just touch on because when you get all those people in the south, then the strikes are still happening in the south. and you have now double density gazan population in the south, and the military still has to move to the south. then it becomes harder to avoid civilians. but i think we've seen, perhaps, one of those pauses come into effect around one of the hospitals today. it's really unclear the situation. there are tanks around it. there's been casualties outside because of explosions. but it does seem, according to hospital officials at al shifa hospital, that a lot of the doctors and patients have now left. so, perhaps there was a pause of some sort in their location as well. these are the only ways where we're seeing it come into
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effect, anderson. >> are you seeing anything that would indicate israel's responding to international pressure to reduce civilian casualties? >> reporter: you know, i think these corridors are, but the military, in essence, despite the fact that it's only targeting hamas and the idf says that it's not intending to have civilian casualties, war here, the way it's being fought, is a very blunt instrument. and absolutely every day we continue to see civilian casualties. the number now has gone over 11,000, according to palestinian health officials, anderson. >> perspective now from someone we've been talking to since the terror attack on october 7th, mic michael oren. you hear secretary blinken hearing far too many palestinians have been killed in gaza. do you sense a concern or a weakening of the biden
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administration's support for israel? >> no. i think that this was anticipated. i think that when you're fighting against an enemy that's hiding behind its own population, using them as human shields, the administration has said, secretary blinken has said this repeatedly, there's going to be civilian casualties. we're going to do the utmost to hold them down. we in the white house, we're under a lot of pressure. we're getting pressure from our own party. can you do your yutmost, can yo open up the humanitarian corridors, humanitarian pauses to get aid in and perhaps release some of the pressure on us. help us help you, he's basically saying. and i think israel personally should try to meet, as much as possible, the requests of the administration. >> why not have as much aid as possible going in through that rafah border to the south to encourage as many palestinians to come down to the south as possible? >> i think that's a compelling
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argument. what's going on in public opinion, including the families of the hostages, is saying, listen, we have not had a word about any of our hostages. the red cross has not gone in there. by holding that aid, we're basically maintaining leverage over the international community, over red cross, and over hamas to let somebody in to see these hostages so we know where and what condition they're in. >> tom freedman wrote a piece nt in "the times," biden -- wartime diplomatic initiative directed to the palestinians at the west bank and hopefully oppose gaza that indicates some two-state solution if palestinian officials can get their political house unified and in order. that doesn't even seem to be something that the government in israel is thinking about. they're withholding tax revenues from the palestinian authorities, tax revenues which, by all rights, should go to palestinian authority to pay for
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security personnel. >> but some of that money now is going to be used to pay for the families of terrorists who killed jews and the palestinian authority pays them salaries. >> but not all -- they're withholding the entire tax revenues, which, again -- >> listen, i don't think it's a great idea. but here, you know, again, there's -- >> why weaken the security forces of palestinian authority at this point if there's going to be some sort of post-hamas rule of gaza, i assume, if israel -- palestinian authority would be the most obvious choice if they would be willing to do it. >> i don't think it's a great idea. but here's the reality on the ground. you have mahmoud abbas. he's the president of the palestinian authority. he's in the 18th year of his four-year term. he will not stand for re-election because he knows if he does, he's going to lose to hamas. he knows if you involve the authority and mahmoud abbas in a peace process, there's a return to gaza within a matter of days. >> who's going to be mayor of
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gaza? >> we don't know yet. we don't know yet. i think we have to internationalize it. i think it should be israel's problem. >> arabia, qatar, they don't want to have troops in gaza. >> i think it's early. i think it's too early. i think right now is to demilitarize the gaza strip, rebuild the gaza strip, and then figure out some type of international force. >> you know, the u.s., with great authority, had a deep campaign in the wake of kicking out saddam hussein. and a lot of those people who, you know, had military training, they ended up in the insurgency. >> i understand. >> how does there not be a hamas insurgency. they're not going to -- all hamas supporters are not going to be killed. >> no, they're not. first of all, i don't think you can kill the idea of hamas. any more than you can kill the idea of i.s.i.s. or kill the idea of al quaeda.
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listen, there are lots of neo-nazis running around today, but they're not as powerful as there was when there was a nazi germany. you can take care of the hamas state, and the people will still subscribe to the notion of hamas. you that you have to destroy the jewish state and create a caliphate in the middle east. they will be weakened. kids in gaza, children in gaza are not going to nursery school and learning to kill jews, not going to summer camp and learning to kill jews. giving them a different future, i think you can do that. you can't do it as long as hamas is there. >> thank you so much. >> always good to be with you. for hostage families, the wait for word is unbearable. cnn's ed lavandera has one woman's story of devotion and determination. >> i have her also here on my back, my beautiful sister. >> reporter: for more than a month, hamas has head this woman's 23-year-old sister hostage. she is sleeping outside israel's
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military headquarters and vows to stay here as long as it takes to get her sister home. >> it's a statement. we're here until they're here. and it's on your hands and the world's hands to bring them back. >> reporter: the families and volunteer supporters of the roughly 240 hostages have moeb liedsed a massive campaign demanding their release. but what price are these families pushing the israeli government to pay? >> it's probably going to take some sort of deal to save the hostages. >> okay, okay, okay. whatever it takes. >> whatever it takes? >> yeah. >> reporter: she wants the world to hear this terrifying recording of roammy's phone call with their mother from the music festival hamas fighters ambushed. [ sound of gunfire ] [ speaking in a non-english language ]
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>> if it was your sister, do you think there is a price for your sister? my sister doesn't have a price. she needs to be here. none of them have a price. they're innocent civilians. >> reporter: hundreds gathered at this tel aviv protest demanding that the international red cross ensure medical treatment for the hostages. but of the nearly dozen families we spoke with, all supported exchanging palestinian prisoners for the hostages. >> [ crowd chanting ] act now. >> reporter: nina's 84-year-old mother is a hostage. neta is fearful her mother won't survive. >> the first priority is to destroy the hamas, and we need the first priority will be to
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bring them back. >> reporter: this woman is waiting for news of her brother's entire family, including two young boys. >> we are willing to do whatever it takes. >> so, even if it's something difficult like a prisoner exchange. >> yeah. it's a difficult situation. so, there's no easy way. >> reporter: the israeli government says there will be no ceasefire without the release of hostages. >> so, there's a, kind of, contradiction that you want to negotiate with them to free hostages, but your goal is to kill them. >> reporter: in 2011, gershon baskin negotiated a prisoner exchange for israeli soldier -- more than 1,000 palestinian prisoners were released in the deal, including yahya, who became one of the masterminds of the october 7th attacks. israel's prison service tells cnn it's holding more than 6,000 palestinian prisoners. >> i know what decision i would make, and it's not a good decision.
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but i would make the offer. i think it's more important to bring those hostages home than it is to free the palestinian -- to keep the palestinian prisoners in jail. >> this woman says she would trade places with her sister to save her life. all she can do is remeain campe outside, demanding a deal to bring her sister home. >> and you're going to stay how long? >> until they come back. >> as long as it takes. >> yeah. i hope it will take two days at least at most. >> if it takes months? >> so, i'll be here. >> ed lavandera joins us now from tel aviv. what more do we know about these hostage negotiations? >> reporter: well, if there's any movement it's really hard to see, and it's really a question of what is going to happen next and questions about what exactly the israeli military is doing on the ground there. you know, this idea that the israeli military can carry out both of these objectives of destroying hamas militarily on
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the ground, as you've seen from nic robertson's reporting tonight, and save all of the hostages' lives. there's growing skepticism as to whether or not that can be done. in fact, some families of hostages released a statement saying that victory should not be measured by assassinating the hamas fighters that were responsible for the october 7th attack. they say the victory should be measured by getting the hostages home alive. so, there's really growing tension there about whether or not this is a viable option in the days, weeks, if not months ahead. >> ed lavandera, thanks very much. next, new york city mayor and the fbi search and what it says about the federal investigation. potential straw donors and the alleged roll of turkish nationals. and later, whether the former president will face trial in the documents case before or after the election.
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the top of the program, today's remarkable news that fbi agents executed a search warrant on america's biggest city mayor. they took mayor eric adams cell phones and an ipad monday night. this came days after an fbi search of his chief campaign fund-raiser's home. all of this connected to an apparently growing government investigation. shimon prokupecz joins us now with more. what do we know about how and why the fbi executed this search warrant? >> reporter: anderson, it's
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pretty extraordinary what happened here. it was on monday, just a couple of days ago when the mayor was leaving nyu behind me. he was at an event, he was speaking. what we're told is as he was leaving and started walking out on the sidewalk, fbi agents approached him with search warrants, seeking his devices. it was so serious that, you know, the mayor here has a security detail. they told the security detail to step aside. and then with the mayor, they went inside his suv. and that is where they took his phones and an ipad, we're told. a couple of days later, after they copied or whatever it is they were looking for on those phones, they returned the devices. this is all in connection to an fbi investigation that's been going on for quite some time looking at campaign finances. just last week, as you said, his finance person on the campaign, the fbi raided her home. they also seized documents there and phones and other electronics.
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and now they have taken the extraordinary step to approach the mayor and seize his devices as well. and it's very unclear to us actually what they're looking for. but still a remarkable escalation in this investigation. and really for the first time, we're seeing the mayor here interact with the fbi. so, it's a very significant move here by the fbi. and they're looking at finances. that's as far as we know connected to the turkish nationals and whether or not straw donors were used to funnel money into his election. >> what is the mayor's response? >> he said he's cooperating. he's basically saying he did nothing wrong, he has nothing to hide, anderson, and that he's fully cooperative. a lawyer for the campaign also issuing a statement, says that the mayor has been and remains committed to cooperating in this matter. and then confirming what happened here on monday and says that they're going continue to
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cooperate with the investigation. but i think it's important here anderson to highlight that despite what they're saying about their cooperation, the fbi didn't wait for their cooperation to seek these phones. they made such an extraordinary move. for some reason there was obviously some concern, so they approached them with these search warrants and seized his phones. >> shimon, stay with us. i want to bring in elie honig. elie, what would the fbi have to do in order to get a judge to sign off on a search warrant like this? >> anderson, it's not easy for prosecutors and the fbi to get a search warrant. you have to establish what we call probable cause that a prime was committed and the likelihood that you'll find evidence of that federal crime in whatever it is that you seize. you have to write it out in detail in an affidavit. as a prosecutor, you have to let the judge know exactly what is probable cause. and the judge has to review it and agree there is probable cause. in a case of this magnitude with
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a subject, such as eric adams, the mayor of the largest city in the united states, this almost certainly would have had to go down to the bosses at the department of justice headquarters for approval as well. a lot of people saw this and signed off. probable cause is a lower standard of proof than prosecutors, of course, would need to convict, which is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. >> elie, to the point that shimon raised, what does it tell you that the fbi stopped him on the street, got him in his suv to get these things, rather than asking him voluntarily to turn over his devices at some point? >> it's a great point by shimon here because if they believe that eric adams would be fully cooperative and hand over all the evidence they needed, they wouldn't do it that way. they would serve a subpoena. they would go through his lawyers. and the fact that not only did they serve a search warrant, but they did it in a sudden, dramatic, unexpected way, i think tells me the fbi believed there was some urgency and exigency here. >> does he have to give them the
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password to his phone when he hands over a phone? >> so, it's a good question. ordinarily one would do that if they're being cooperative, like adams' lawyers have said he's being cooperative. they've said he has nothing to hide. if they don't do that, the fbi generally does have the technology, and they'll have permission through the search warrant to do what we call dump the cell phone, means to scan all its contents, to get access, and to examine everything, emails, texts, whatsapp, encrypted apps, photos, you name it. so, ultimately the fbi absolutely will be able to get access to information on his phone. >> so, the fbi searched the home of mayor adams' chief fund-raiser last week. what is her role in all this? i mean, has anyone already been charged with anything? >> no. no one's been charged with anything. and obviously they're all denying any wrong doing. and they all say they're cooperating. and even that situation last week, she's essentially at the home of this financer, this
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chief financer. she's about 25 years old. i believe a lot of people in new york city in the political world have said it was, kind of, an odd choice to put her in that position. in her case, they had spent some time at her home. they took computers. they took other devices, records. you know, it's very much unclear to us at this point exactly what they were looking for. but, you know, perhaps something that they found there caused them some concern. so, they had to do this in the way that we've been talking about here tonight. the other thing you have to think about anderson is that the fbi might have a lot of this information already. they have other ways of getting subpoenas and search warrants through the cloud and through email and through other phone companies and all that. so, clearly something else has happened here, where they said, we need to do this now. and it could be based off of some information that they obtained in the search last week or something else came to light.
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but this is certainly something that is very significant and has everyone in the political world here in new york city talking about this right now. you know, the mayor was supposed to -- usually he goes to puerto rico, where there's, sort of, a political junk it around this time. he's not there. he's here, where so many of the other politicians here are there. so, it's very interesting for people that he stayed behind. and of course this happened. and also it's important that we didn't find out about this until "the new york times" reported it today. this happened on monday. that's certainly significant as well. >> how big of a campaign fundraising issue is this? are there dollar amounts that are believed -- what are we talking? >> so, it's unclear what the dollar amount is. but it's significant because there is some indication to the fbi that straw donors were used,
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turkish nationals. foreign nationals are not allowed to donate to campaigns. so, they were funneling, according to information we've obtained, money through straw donors, people who live here or claim to live here. but meanwhile the money was coming from other places. so, it's very significant because it could have all kinds of national security and obviously corruption concerns. don't have the dollar amount, but it's certainly something significant for the fbi to be doing all of this. and for all we know there could be other things going on here, anderson. >> shimon prokupecz, elie honig. just ahead the former president wants to push back the trial date in the classified documents case. the judge says no, at least for now. maggie haberman joins me. and later can iowa governor kim reynolds decision to endorse ron desantis sway voters whoho planan to vote i in the iowawa
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the federal judge overseeing the former president's classified documents case delivered his team a major setback today. judge aileen cannon said she will not delay the trial start date, scheduled for may of next year. it's something they repeatedly demanded. last week she appeared to be leaning toward a delay. that did not happen today. but she did say she will revisit the decision in march, just days before he's set to go on trial in the special counsel's other investigation in attempts to overturn the 2020 election. judge cannon today did agree with the former president's team that they need more time to prepare for the case.
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and she pushed back several filing deadlines, including those that involve reviewing the classified documents at the heart of the case. joining us now, maggie haberman of "the new york times." she's also the author of "confidence man: the making of donald trump and the breaking of america." what do you think the decision to not delay the classified documents means for the former president and his team? >> anderson, i think it's a play for time. she literally was essentially splitting the decision. she gave herself until next year to revisit it. as you note, this is going to happen around the time he is going on trial in d.c., or scheduled to. so, she will look at that calendar and decide whether she has to move hers. and there are reasons to believe there would be movement in the other trial and she would have to. the trump team still feels pretty confident, and a lot of this is because trump appointed judge aileen cannon. so, fairly or not, he reads into everything she does. but there is reason to believe
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she might delay it until after the election. i think she is going to look at all the other cases and make a decision. i don't think this is over for the trump team. >> it certainly was good news that she pushed back deadlines for them. >> yeah. i mean, this was something they were looking for. anything that gets to a sense of delay, which has just been the mantra the whole time, is very good for them. i know we've talked about this, but it's just contrary what you're seeing in d.c., where judge tanya chutkan, in the case related to trump's efforts to subvert the 2020 election, she's clearly trying to press ahead. we will see how this all ends up. there's a massive amount of discovery in both cases. there are fewer issues related to classified information. >> also, what would two federal trials held in the spring, if that in fact did happen, mean for his campaign? i mean, given his appearances at the civil trial, i guess he could use -- i mean, if he
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wanted to appear at both trials, he could just ping back and forth and use those, essentially as -- there's going to be plenty of coverage. so, he could get in front of cameras there, i suppose. >> they can't overlap, anderson. he has to physically be present in each courtroom as a criminal defendant, unlike what happened in the new york case. he's not going to have his pick of jurisdiction. you're going to see these judges in these four cases look at the c calendar and look at what these -- are trying to do. you are correct that because trump will be off the trail, he will be using this in fundraising pitches, and he'll hold a rally, you know, once a week maybe and he'll talk about all the things he always talks about. but it will actually have the effect of in a weird way quieting him because he can't pull the same kinds of stunts in a federal criminal court case that he did in this new york civil trial. >> what is the former president's mindset these days?
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obviously his legal problems are mounting. he's still polling well. any sense of how confident he is? >> there is an enormous amount of energy invested in trump portraying himself as fine and nothing bothering him. and you are seeing that come out in various ways. people who are in contact with him frequently will acknowledge he is very, very angry. he also clearly does not want to be sentenced to prison. they are feeling good about his chances in the election. they would like to get through the primary. while they, on the one hand, suggest this primary is a fate comply, they acknowledge they have to get through iowa, which has never been a great state for trump. if he wins iowa, it's hard for anyone to stop him. they look at a variety of public polling about joe biden, and they feel good. president biden is a year out from re-election and things can look a lot different. but that's the mindset right now. it is really about winning and winning in part, anderson, as a means of dealing with these cases.
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>> in the civil fraud trial, i mean, donald trump jr., he's going to be the first defense witness called monday. i've been really struck just how no one in the trump family really claims to actually be running the company and responsible for any of the financial statements. the two sons certainly talked a big game in the past about their important roles running the company in the absence of their dad. and, you know, ivanka trump was at -- pushing shovels into groundbreaking ceremonies. they're all -- the buck certainly doesn't stop with them when it comes to financial statements apparently. >> yeah. there was a little more pressure on eric trump on that front when he was on the stand. don jr. truly, as i understand it from all of my reporting and other people's reporting, is less involved in running the company than eric trump is. but you are correct that there is an m.o., which is distancing, pushing it off on staff,
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lawyers, advisers, what have you. we saw that with trump, although trump did acknowledge making suggestions about these financial statements. it is a family-owned company that is largely run by staff. and that has always been the case. >> maggie haberman. thanks so much. now kim reynolds decision to endorse florida governor ron desantis. the day before she did it, the former president attacked her saying the endorsement would not make any difference. the former president once called and asked for her endorsement. given the former president's substantial lead in the polls in iowa, it's certainly an unusual move by the governor. gary tuchman is in iowa for us tonight. >> reporter: iowa governor kim reynolds endorsing ron desantis over gop front runner donald trump is the talk of the hawk eye state. >> are you a fan of the governor? >> yes, i am. >> did you vote for her? >> yes. >> who did you vote for in the presidential election in 2020?
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>> trump. >> reporter: this man is the owner of a store called old station craft meats in iowa. >> the fact she endorsed desantis, will that make you consider voting for desantis instead of trump in the caucuses. >> i haven't made up my mind yet, but i wouldn't say her endorsement factors into my decision. >> reporter: it's a long standing iowa tradition, a governor doesn't endorse a candidate before the caucuses. the governor is fine with the decision. >> what do you think of the governor of your state? >> i love kim reynolds. >> reporter: gina also voted for reynolds in 2022 and trump in 2020. >> if he is the republican nominee, i will vote for trump. he wouldn't be my first choice as a republican nominee at this point though. >> so, does this decision by the governor to endorse ron desantis influence you? might you vote for desantis because the governor has endorsed desantis? >> no, i'm undecided right now.
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>> it doesn't have any influence? >> no. >> but you respect her right to do it. >> absolutely. >> the city is in dallas county, which hasn't gone for a democrat at the presidential level in the 21st century. former president trump won dallas county by less than two percentage points in 2020. governor reynolds won the county by more than 11 points in 2022. she's popular here. so, it's easy to find people not bothered by the break in tradition. rob is the chairman of the area chamber of commerce. >> does it sway you? >> not necessarily. >> it doesn't influence you what she said? >> it doesn't. but it's another consideration. it's someone that i -- >> she wants people to do it. >> absolutely. that's the purpose of an endorsement, definitely. but i think iowa has a lot of educated voters and a lot of educated folks. and they'll make their own decisions. >> what about you? >> i will make my own decision.
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>> reporter: jeff has owned the hardware store for a quarter century. the store is a pillar of the community. it's been around since the 1870s. he's met governor reynolds and respects her. he does have concern, though, about what the endorsement could lead to. >> she made a risky move just because if desantis doesn't get it and trump does get it, i think trump will have some retribution for her not being on his side. >> reporter: plenty of positive feelings about the governor here, but there are exceptions. >> some very strong trump supporter. >> reporter: this man says the governor's endorsement was a poor thing to do. >> the fact she endorsed the candidate you think it's poor because she did not endorse trump. >> that's right. >> reporter: if she did endorse trump -- >> i would have been happy with it. i'm a trump supporter. >> reporter: so, it's not the principle of her not staying neutral. it's the candidate she endorsed. >> that's right. i don't like the one she -- >> reporter: anderson, the latest iowa polling from "the
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des moines register" shows ron desantis and nikki haley are tied for second, significantly behind donald trump, who is 43%. desantis obviously hoping the endorsement helps him close the gap. we're reporting just ahead, president biden has his own hills to climb a year ahead of election day, specifically with younger latino voters, who are dissatisfied with the state of the economy. miguel marquez is reporting in geororgia tonighght, talkingng voteters there.. what thehey have to o say next..
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while legal issues present a hurdle for the former president's attempt at a second term, president biden also faces major issues of his own. that includes dissatisfaction among young voters, also prominently latino voters under the age of 35. he won that vote by 33 points in 2020 according to exit polls. mi miguel marquez has more from the swing state of georgia. >> are you happy with your vote for joe biden? >> well, i didn't see something really change. but i didn't see change. so, i was expecting something. >> reporter: gabriela martinez was expecting better. both she and her husband work. they have one child, 6-year-old ramon. every month, a struggle.
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>> right now i'm working three jobs because i have to, like, pay more things, like my house is more expensive. >> reporter: dalton, georgia, bills itself the carpet capital of the world. much of the labor here, latino immigrants living paycheck to paycheck. many now view the trump years as better for their bottom line. >> some in the latino community say, when trump was the president, we don't have high gas, inflation. so, this is the truth. >> reporter: pocketbook concerns top of the mind and the support of this fast-growing voting bloc critical in key battleground states. joe biden won georgia and its 16 electoral votes in 2020 by just 11,779 votes. that year, latinos in the state backed biden by a 25-point margin. while they were just 7% of the georgia electorate, a small shift could affect the outcome in a tight race.
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a recent "new york times" sienna college poll across six battleground states, including georgia, found trump running just eight pointing behind biden among latinos. >> do you think latino votes in georgia are up for grabs in either party in 2024? >> absolutely. i think they're up for grab from both parties, from any party really. and i think there's a lot of frustration and a lot of broken promises. >> reporter: he advocates for and works with latinos state-wide. this man says latino concerns mirror the country. their biggest issues -- >> inflation and job pay, rent prices and health care. >> reporter: juan jose and -- 63 years married, they raised seven kids now in their 80s. they still show up to work every day at their atlanta snack shop. what's important for most people living in georgia, he says, is work. he says he's a democrat but worries about the economy and
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crime. here in atlanta, he says, many people are thinking bad things about murder and crime. diego has lived in atlanta and cut hair for 17 years. the candidate who will get his vote? the one he believes will improve both the economy and bring down crime. >> do you have a candidate in mind or are you maybe? so, you're open to democrat or republican? >> and miguel, i know you spoke to some latino republicans as well. what do they have to say about the 2024 election? >> latino republicans and moderates, both who like the republican party -- they didn't want to go on camera, but they like the business sense of the republican party. they said they would have a tough time voting for donald trump as well. so, he has issues as well here in georgia. it seems no matter who the
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candidate is for both parties, no matter who the parties are, you're going to have to do some work to win latino votes here in the peach state. >> thanks so much. when we come back, the growing and long standing problem of anti-semitism in this country. dana bash investigates in this weekend's s installmenent of "t whole e story."" she joins s me next wiwith a prpreview.
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wray recently waerned that anti-semitism is reaching what he called historic levels in the u.s., even before october 7th and the anti-semitic backlash. jews were already the most targeted religious group in this country. this sunday, 9:00 p.m. on "the whole story," cnn's dana bash takes a special look at anti-semitism in america. dana joins me now. talk about the tensions and the anti-semitic activity we've been seeing on college campuses that's been rising since october 7th. some of these videos are so disturbing. >> so disturbing anderson. and it comes in all forms. you're seeing some run of the mill things like people putting swastikas on others' dorms and then outright violence against students. that is what happened to dylan mann at tulane university. he went for what he thought and what started as a peaceful
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pro-israel rally. there were pro palestinian supporters on the other side of the street. and then it turned. take a listen. >> reporter: violence erupted when a pro-palestinian demonstrator in the back of a pickup truck started to light an israeli flag on fire. >> a student on the jewish side, he ran and he tried to get back the flag to save it from being burned. there were two kids in the back of the truck. one is holding the israeli flag and one is holding a palestinian flag on a very large pole. once the jewish student was able to achieve the flag back, he started getting bashed over the head repeatedly with that pole. and when i saw that, that's when i ran in. i was trying to just get him out of the situation. >> reporter: then dylan was beaten and attacked by two older men he says were not college aged. >> i was completely blindsided by a man with a megaphone, who hit me very viciously over the nose, which broke my nose.
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i went into complete shock. i went deaf for a couple seconds. i assume i went blind maybe for a second. >> and anderson, what we're seeing on college campuses comes really after years of a bubbling of anti-semitism. it certainly has, for a while, been viewed as antizionism, which -- the first time i did an hour like this just in 2022, people cautioned and pushed back, well, it's not the same. now there's no caution. it is being conflated in a very big way. and one of the questions is when are university presidents going to start to address this, not just the violence that are coming from the groups, but the cultural problems that are systemic at the university level, faculty, and students alike. >> and obviously just globally we've been seeing a rise in anti-semitism. >> absolutely, in a very
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alarming way, particularly when you look at europe. even a place like germany, which after world war ii, they were actually among the best and the least overt about anti-semitism. we're seeing that happen there. and what's happening here in the u.s. as well. one of the things that i have learned in looking into this, not just now but also before, is that if you look at the history, the notion of anti-semitism, as we all know, has been going on for a millenia, tends to be a canary in the coal mine for when a democracy starts to rot and has real problems. the fact that we are seeing that not just in these european countries, but more importantly here in the u.s., is very, very disturbing. >> dana bash, tune in to see dana's report in an all new episode of "the whole story," airs sunday 9:00 p.m. eastern, only on cnn. we'll be right back.
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