>> well, the lying congressman is back. the question tonight is how long. on the on laura coast live. >> you've got to wonder what took him so long. the house ethics committee

allegations that he used funds for personal profit and reported fake loans and kept it going through a constant theory of lies. they say quote he blatantly stole from his campaign. and they brought the receipts literally. a 3332 dollar on report for july 72022 his campaign calendar list's santos as off. $1400 at a spa charged to a campaign debit card described as botox in spread sheets. $1500 at another spa also noted as botox. i don't know about botox. that's a lot for someone who was allegedly relaxing in the

hamptons. but you probably knew there would be more. this might surprise you. $4127 at hermace. and what is described in the report as smaller purchases at only fans and sapphira. the "new york times" describes that is a platform where some charge money for explicit content. a defiant george santos calls the report biased but what do you expect from a congressman who lied into the job. telling one whopper after another lying about graduating from college lying about working on wall street after saying he

was very proud of his jewish heritage claiming he didn't mean he was jewish, he meant jewish. that would be funny if it weren't for real and this wasn't a member of congress that could impact your actual life. guess it is kind of funny. see what snl thinks. >> people need to know who you are. >> i'm mr. santos. i graduated on a volleyball scholarshipened i'm a proud representative for my district in long island, new jersey. hang on. madonna is calling me. like a virgin? i remember i was there. i was the virgin. >> the sfakt she already facing

23 federal criminal charges. he said he's not going seek a second term for that time honored reason because of his family. he says that they deserve better. now, santos based the possibility and we asked residents from new york's third congressional district who organized to have santos expelled what they think of all this. >> george santos wanted to do was to run a campaign and use the funds as his personal piggy bank. he needs to go. >> nothing has been done. santos has been collecting a six figure salary with full health benefits on taxpayer backs. and shame on congress for not getting rid of this guy. >> he should be expelled

immediately no more excuses. >> sh knows he's a crook and the fact he hasn't been expelled is a system of the broken political system that makes my generation feel disillusioned. >> i want to bring in marion daly who first broke the story on the santos scandal. thanks for being here. you wrote an article when he was running for this seat. suspicions claimed net worth of $11 million. it says controversial u.s. congressional candidate george santos has final little filed his personal finanancial disclosure report on september 6, 20 months late claiming rise

in alleged net worth to $11 million. two years ago in 2020 santos claimed he had no assets over $5,000 no bank account, no sock accounts, no real property, net worth barely above zero so i got to ask you when you see this coming out and the ethics report are you feeling vindicated about your over 40? >> i'm feeling vindicated. we were told everything. that man told our paper everything he could come up, things i could never repeat, every form of hire that everything wasn't true and we had absolutely been vindicated. excuse me. i'm very proud. >> i have a cough myself.

>> i am so proud of our team and so proud we have been proven right. if only we had been listened to. if only someone had taken notice before election day we would not be where we are today. but the article didn't get the pickup we would have liked. >> why do you think that's the case? you know i think because people don't realize how important local papers are. news is local. everything is truly local. we have a staff. our reporters live except for a few of us live in the district. live in the neighborhood. the man who delivers our papers receives our papers and he's a subscriber. it's hand-delivered to coffee shops. it's hand-delivered to the mom and pop shops.

it's hand-delivered to the delis and people goet out of their bay to fine it. we cover the local stories, yes and but in was a major local story. this was very important that people of congressional district 3 deserved better. they did not deserve this. >> marine daly you were ahead of the game. thank you. i appreciate it so much. >> i want to bring in robert zimmerman a former congressional candidates who ran and lot of against george santos in 2022. robert thank you for being here. first i echo what maureen had to say about allpolitics being local. there were actually just going through it there were thousands of dollars spent on designer

goods and botox and only fans on the campaign dime. what is your reaction and what are you hearing from the folks in your district about all these revelations? >> look. let's say first to maureen and her publisher for their excellent work they did. we took their articles and circulated them throughout the district. i think 80,000 texts went door to door. we sounded the alarm as best we could. we were the only ones amongst the candidates who didn't santos has been running four years and republicans never raised these issues, democrat who ran before me never did opposition research on him. so we did our best as well and i think blank slate media steve and others tried to sound the alarm but i think when you look at the results today, look at the stories today it's vindication nor journalist vps

and they did their best on it but the bigger point that strikes me is that as you said the beginning of the show what took so long. that is petty ante thief in a petty ante hood. the federal government had access to the banking records. has this information. why didn't it come out earlier? >> excuse me. that's a question for us. most people have not been a part of the campaign or don't know what goes night but they assume that opposition research happened in the report the committee concludes things called a vulnerability report that was commissionth by santoses 2022 campaign detailing lies about education and work history so you talked about the use of research. why did this not get raised

earlier? >> well in fact we were the only ones in the four years of his congressional campaign that ever sounded the alarm on it. the democratic congressional campaign committee which was in charge of research on santos produced an 87 report and nailed a lot of important issues. part of the problem here is that your own cnn contributor said the media cover the marquee races not the local elections and get lost in the process and many journalists came back to us and said we don't have the money staff or time to do this kind of work. part of the problem journalists have in campaigns is the federal election commission that should be charged with overseeing the financial reports that are being issued doesn't have the staff to do that type of investigative work. so that's the real frustration. but here's the bigger point. for a year now laura the republicans in congress ever known the story on this guy.

there's no mystery here. selfish manipulation of power desperation to hold on to their majority they bury these stories. this ethics report wasn't written the past couple days. these facts have been known a long time but they covered up these facts n. fact they were accomplices to his crimes by trying to cover up the situation and protect him. now they have to release it because of public pressure but were not there yet. don't take for granted heal be expelled. we have to keep the public pressure on to make sure he's expelled from congress. >> i wonder what will happen next including who might take his seat and run again. will it be you robert? >> you know my focus for the past year has been building a bipartisan coalition to make sure she expelled from congress and keeping pressure on congress and we are making problem and other great groups helping us doing their conducting theheir work to do that as well but in addition to that when there's

time for political discussion we will have it and i'll clue you in the right now we may have a special election. there may be a new congressional district on top of that. so now is not the time to talk about the political agenda. it's time to focus on restoring integrity to our system and related sayings for over 750,000 people who haven't had representation or a congressional office there to service them. i've been working on cases with issues of my campaign staff because i'm the one they're calling because his office is virtually shut down. >> robert zimmerman i'll put that down as tbd. thanks for joining us. >> i'll keep you posted. >> that's not tbd. that's something for another day. thank you so much. i bring in legal analyst elliott williams and former congressmen joe walsh. what i get from this is what is

going to happen now? you've been a member of congress. it did take a long time to get to this particular point. what happens next? is it a guarantee he will be expelled? >> i think so because it's political that it's taken this long but now it's political he's going to be expelled because republicans want him gone. she damaged goods heading into an election year. they're going to move this quickly. >> he has criminal charges as well. does this help the prosecution? >> there's conflict with the prosecution because the justice department went back and forth whether to pause the congressional investigation while this was going on so there could be more charges here. he's been charged with crimes and could be more but it's easy to get wrapped up in the botox and hamptons and nonsense and waited comes down to is when people give money to campaigns

ought to know it's being spent by the campaign and campaigns ought to be on west the public about what they're doing and santos did neither of those things and took the money and abused positions in congress. >> irrespective test the test says if the expense would exist even in the absence of the candidacy or even if the office holder were not in offers then the personal use ban applies. fancy way of saying you can't spent the money not campaign related so you look at the bag, the botox, it doesn't pass the smell test. >> as a former member you have to be so careful where you classify everything but there was none of that here. he basically lived off his campaign. there's no gray area here. everything he did he lived off

of his campaign. it's one of the egregious abuses of can pain finance i've ever seen. >> the beauty of the house ethics committee so much of congress is partisan and vicious. >> we know that. >> we know that very well. but the house committee is split equal number of democrats and republicans in order to move something forward they have to agree on some bipartisan agreement here. that's clearly here and this was scathing in tone starting with first sentence like george santos cannot be trusted. those are strong words from a body in congress. >> he's set to have a press conference november 30th. he's not going to run for reelection. what is he going to say? >> they're going to mover on this i think quickly after thanksgiving so we will know. look. maybe i'm the lone wolf at this table. this is historic. i mean the only member who have

been booted because they joined a confederacy or convicted in a court of law. i worry about this precedent of expeling a member who has been charged. >> that's why they were so aggressive about leapfrogging the justice department so they coax pell him if they waited for the process to play out it could have been years before it got prosecuted. it could have been years. >> if you're talking about trying to have some currency some bargaining chip being a member of congress saying look i'll leave is, that enough? i will note for everyone he did beat the person we spoke to by 20,000 votes in addition where biden won by 8 points the question is can a democrat wind and run there elliott williams joe walsh thank you. why are some young americans on tiktok say they sympathize with

osama bin laden? and why now? that's the question i have for the editor-in-chief for semamaphore sam smsmith.

>> dozens of young americans on tiktok now say that they sympathize with osama bin laden. you heard that right. the terrorist who orchestrated the 9/11 attacks, the worst terror attacks on united states soil in history suddenly going viral on tiktok. i'm uncomfortable seeing his face on the other side of me on this screen. users have been posting videos on the social media platform supporting a letter bin laden wrote in 2002 criticizing the united states and its support of israel. to justify the targeting and killing of american civilians and filled with antisemitism.

ben smith is a former "new york times" media columnist. thanks for being here. people are shocked for a lot reasons. one of the videos posted on tiktok a new york based fluners writes this about bin laden's letter quote, if you have read it let me know if you are also going through a existential crisis because in the last 20 minutes me entire viewpoint on the entire life i had believed and had lived has changed. is it shocking that 22 years after 9/11 a letter written by osama bin laden has not only showed up but so many americans seemed to be finding it persuasive? >> yeah, you know this letter

was post build the guardian years ago and got hundreds of thousands of views from their web site and endeavors of young people this was not just young people. it was a diverse array of morons for whom this was all new and were interested and fascinated by it. it was not an enormous phenomenon. we are living and era when theories are spilling out the way they didn't used to but i think we should be careful about amplifying the attacks. i think the attention to these have come after from journalists like us seeing them saying what is this. >> the guardian you mentioned actually had a link to the letter and then had an article

that provided context to analyze it more so. they then pulled it down and that fueled some conspiracy y about they're trying shield people from the information so it became a professorsi about the issue. you talk about being careful bit. careful is not necessarily the same as tiktok as it would be for a media outlet or fuse service but according to a poll ben a third of americans between age 18-29 get their news from tiktok. i'm wondering when you think about that scope and that cross section, is there an added danger at the prospect it could gogo viral and be quickly absord and consumed? >> you know, it's interesting we just lived through this decade in media where facebook and twitter were the dominant platforms for information for

news and a lot of what you've got is people who you thought were crazy or you hated screaming at you and one of the things that made tiktok so popular is that it doeoesn't do that. it serves you stuff it knows you're going to like and reinforces your biases and keeps knew your bubble and part of the reason we haven't seen this much on tiktok it's happening in private with crazy stuff discussed on tiktok it's not always on the surface but in this case it is. >> ben i wonder, feedback from people use tiktok they find it condescending to think there's snobbery where to get the news from and it's up to you to decide what it ought to be. do you think it's snobbery imposed on people or a concern about a type of information that's circulating? >> you know, i think old people

like us have always been panic waiver 19-year-old's were getting news. >> i don't know what you're talking about. i'm not old. thank you. >> but at the same time america has always had a deep well of people who believe really profoundndly strange and c craz stuff and in this moment in all sort of ways that's breaking through to the surface. you're starting to see it among the many let thaergs are antisemitic and blames the jews for everything. >> i want to carry on our conversation because the problems with antisemitism are not just cropping up on tiktok elon musk and x are having the same issues.s. i'i'm going to talk abouout it .

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antisemitic rhetoric. he endorsed post that falsely claims that jews push hatred against whites calling it quote the actual truth posting an agreement that jewish communities push the hate against whites they claim to want to stop against them. musk clarified he does not believe hatred of white people extend to all jewish communities. ibm says it's pulling advertise from x following a report that a social media platform ad besides pro-nazi material. elon musk is in yet another controversy endorsing a claim that there's a push of hatred of whites by the jewish community. he's been called out for so many of these disputes it doesn't

seem he cares that there will be consequence for him. >> last segment we talked about randomom morons on tiktok and ts is different. i think even for musk where he followed and and engages with nazis. i think this is different and i'm hesitant to say something that that's antisemitic. i think there are a lot of jews with different positions from each other we are a product community but you run into somebody talks talking about t "the jews" and blaming them as if there's some unified conspiracy that's textbook antisemitic. this felt to me like even in the span of elon musk outrage like a real break and a step for him in the past like henry ford howard hughes and american industrialists who wind up in a dark strange place.

>> corporate america is weighing in and away, ibm pulling ads on x because it appeared next to neo-nazi content. this is impacting x's business ultimately. i wonder, will that make a difference? because sometimes you know corporate america cares once the bottom line is impacted even if prior to that they cared not. >> yes, i think twitter is a privately owned company that elon is runing into the ground and the bigger question is whether tesla whether spacex are going to start seeing consumers not want to buy their product and spacex in particular are basically a government contractor and musk's most important business partners are the federal government state government international government and i think it may start to become harder for him. >> we knew to look for

misinformation in an election year on platforms such as this but now hate is also on the menu. that's surprising for a lot of people knowing full well it can often infence tie the closer you get to election day. what do you say? >> yes, i think probably like you have done my whole career without seeing a lot of overt antisemitism and it's everywhere now and elections tend to bring out the worst in everybody so i think you'll see a fair amount of that. >> guess the worst may be yet to come ben smith thank you so much. >> cheerful thought. thank you. >> one of the world's most high profile producers and musicians facing accusations of rain and abuse. now sean dititty comombs shocki

allegationons next.

>> tonight, music mogul sean "diddy" combs accused of rape and abuse by his ex-girlfriend.

the suit alleges years of sexual abuse rape as well as quote luring her into a drg fueled lifestyle in the a statement to cnn ventura says, quote. she also says with the expiration of new york's adult survivors act fast approaching quote it became clear this was an opportunity to speak up about the trauma i have experienced and i'll be recovering from for the rest of my life. lawyers for combs released a statement to cnn vehemently denying the allegation calling them offensive and outrageous. here to discuss karen mayo former ed toor in chief of ebony magazine. i'm so glad you're with me and i have been going through this

complaint and the allegations contained in it are pretty stunning and you have helped women who have come forward and helped people like r. kelly and russ simmons. sean "diddy" combs is known as a mogul. how difficult do you think it was for her to come forward with these allegations? >> thank you always for having me accept this evening. it's so unfortunate you know. it had to be incredibly difficult. it's divide for me a couple of hours in grasping the degree of her allegations or abuse. but also just being reminded that there is often so much more than meets the eye when we are talking about even legendary men, you know. sean and puffy diddy all the

names he was known as. he's literally a legend in the music culture. certainly black culture and it's a heartbreak for many people i think to imagine even a fraction of what cassie is alleging but the truth is these rumors have been around for a very long time. >> well, you know they met when she was 19 years old. he was 37. say what you will about age differences there is a power dynamic not only in the age gap but also she claims that he exerted his power and influence, a quote from her, he was a media mogul. she would have been an r&b hopeful. how does that power factor in?

>> there could be a power dynamic in a relationship between a man and a woman where there aren't millions and millions of dollars in the room where there is not someone like i said is a living legend who is almost almost 20 years your senior. you can have a power dynamic with everyday people when it comes to gender violence and intimate partner violence sexual assault and everything that cassie is alleging so when you think about what she was actually alleging and how singular, not many of us know what it's like to be partnered with someone at this level and has this power and control and she was also his employee technically as an artist so the ways in which the matchup was not existing.

she almost didn't exist if you look at who she is in comparison to who he is especially at the time of the meeting so there's'a lot of heartbreak for me and i know all around the community there's just a lot of heartbreak. many of us are friends or friends of friends and many of us came up in this business together all hoping and aiming for the best. you know -- >> i don't want to interrupt you but i have to say the lawyer's spine goes out the pack for a second. there are opinions that have been formed about this. everyone's phone was blowing up speaking about these allegations but his attorneys i want to say, his attorneys are accusing her of blackmail. they're adding, quote, for the past six months mr. combs has been subjected to ms. ventura's persistent demand of $30 million

under the threat of writing a damaging book about their relationship. so she's being accused of being a money grabber. is that fair? >> right. i don't think it's fair. i also don't know whether or not that is true but even if it is true it doesn't discount what she's alleging so i think that kind of keeping our eyes on the prize. when someone has been partnered again for over a decade with a person of this kind of immense wealth and power there is a lot of money made and that kind of intimate partner relationship almost as if in a marriage when partners separate and one spouse says hey i'm entitled so so much of what we created during that time when she talks about darkness i have to say thanks the thing that feels most resonant to me in that space and

time in the entire entertainment industry the 2000's became dark, the drugs, the violence of the '90s almost turned into another kind of darkness where this kind of rampantnt power grab that th men quite frankly in the business exerted almost on everyone was a dark time. so you know i'm not here to legislate but i think there's a lot to be learned with women come forth and we should listen and read between the lines. as i said for so many because the rumors have existed so long it's almost as if this testimony aligns with the whispers. so it's a deep time i have to say. it's troubling to say the least

and i'm wishing the best for cassie and all these women who are taking advantage of this slim amount of time that's left. just imagine, a year exists for many women who have been abused in this kind of way that cassie alleges. it takes a lifetime to come forth. some women go to their grave with these kind of stories so i think there's an impetuous a window of line that says we will listen and may validate your claims of many years ago. i think that's a good enough reason to come forth, whether or not cassie feels entitled to money or not to blackmail him i don't know. >> a lot of unanswered questions and certainly won't be the enof the conversation in many ways it's the beginning of a longer onone. thank k you so mucuch. >> t thank you..

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we are almost certainly going to see life across the universe, intelligent life in places across the universe. the question is any of it going to be close enough for meaningful contact. >> have we not seen any of it? >> i don't think we are seeing it here there. is something to the ufo phenomenon what the government calls uap's but the answer is going to be in science we don't understand, atmospheric signs meteorological, astronomy and basics of physics we don't understand. >> this is an incredible book. ufo the inside story of the u.s. government search for alien life here and out there. thank you all for watching. our coverage continues. ♪ ♪

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