manhole cover. so the red flag came out. organizers had to inspect all the other manhole covers. practice did resume, ongoing right now actually. race set for saturday at 10:00 p.m. local vegas time. latest start time ever so that they can take advantage of the awesome scene on the vegas strip. and finally, acuna jr. winning the mvp award, first ever to hit more than 40 home runs. and ohtani winning in the a.l. and he accepted it alongside his dog who he gave an adorable high five to. kasie, whenever you accept awards on television, i think it should be a requirement that you do it with your pet alongside you. >> i mean, is that not just the sweetest thing is t?

oh, my gosh. i love it. i was lucky to see him play at camden yards. it was awesome. thank you, andy. thanks to all of you for joining us. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere, "cnn this morning" starts right now. good morning, everyone. glad you're starting your friday with us. five things to know fris november 17th. israel presenting new evidence what it says is a hamas tunnel opening at the al-shifa hospital in gaza and recovered the body of a second hostage near that hospital. new overnight, six colleges an investigation over anti-semitism and islam phobia. joining us live ahead, the secretary. and expected new push gaining momentum to expel new york congressman george santos after a house ethics report found substantial evidence and santos saying he won't run for

re-election. rapper sean combs accused of raping and abusing his former girlfriend. diddy denying those allegations. president biden expected to avoid charges for his alleged mishandling the classified documents. two sources tell cnn this morning the special counsel leading that probe will instead write a probe critical of president biden and his staff. "cnn this morning" starts right now. here's where we begin. overnight israel says troops recovered the body of a second hostage near the hospital conducting that military operation. >> this after israeli forces found a hamas tunnel shaft and a stash of guns, grenades and other combat gear at the hospital. idf releasing these videos as proof, they say. hamas says it's all baseless lies. cnn can't very either side's

claims and the human watchdog wants access to the site to launch an independent investigation. president netanyahu saying that's one of the reason the troops were sent in to the hospital. >> strong indications hostages were held at the shifa hospital and one of the reasons we entered the hospital. if they were, they were taken out. >> meanwhile, here at home we're seeing even more intense protests coast to coast demanding a cease-fire in gaza. protesters blocked san francisco's bay bridge. look at that. for hours. police say some parked cars and tossed keys into the la oren liebermann is live with us. concrete evidence the idf is handing over, that indeed, their belief that hamas ran a command center, control center, under the hospital is indeed, fact? >> reporter: israel faced

tremendous pressure to prove this assertion because it wasn't just something heard in past days and weeks but said for years hamas used al-shifa hospital above ground to have a terror infrastructure below. and a far cry establishing decisively hamas used this underground. releasing more pictures of a hospital shaft and located tz video entrance to the shaft closer to substantiating what they say is an operational tunnel network below the hospital, but still we clearly need to see into the shaft itself. not just the opening. they say the shaft was found near a cache of weaponry and ammunition. directors, health officials and the hamas-run enclave denied accusations saying it was only a medical complex. worth noting the u.s. and president biden threw their weight behind israel saying they have their own information that

hamas used the hospital itself as cover for infrastructure below the hospital. still waiting to see more evidence and the idf promised more evidence and a look deeper under the hospital itself, poppy and phil. >> focus on the military operation. still, or supposed to be, a functioning hospital. the director says it's on the verge of catastrophe. what's being done to help the doctors, those working there, and the patients? >> reporter: the humanitarian crisis inside the hospital very much deepening. reporting for days on shortages of food, water, supplies and the ability to keep the patients alive and treat them. there is some 650 patients there according to the director of the al-shifa medical complex and the situation, as i said is worsening. some 36 premature babies, several have already died because the ink cue cubators co be continued because of utility

outages. they're trying to move patients but the not clear that's possible. the director says doctors have to make harrowing decisions including amputating limbs of some of the injured because they can't prevent infection. >> sad news this morning, that the idf says they found bodies of two hostages. two israeli hostages near the hospital. do we know anything more about them? >> reporter: at this point, not much beyond what the idf has said. announced in the course of the past several hours discovered the body brought it out of gaza of a 65-year-old grandmother kidnapped october 7th. her husband killed in the attack itself. then also announced they brought out the body of a young female soldier noa marciano. announced died in gaza but not able to locate her body. both bodies located in the area of the al-shifa complex and they

brought those out after identifying those and notified the families. the first two israeli hostages who have died in gaza that we know of. little information of where the other 238 or so might be what condition they're in and little on the state of negotiations whether there will be a deal soon or not. the broad framework appears to be there, getting it over the linehappened. >> that is the crucial came. thank you. cnn exclusive reporting the department of education launched investigations into seven schools after receiving complaints about anti-semitism and islam phobia. this according to an administration official. the investigations include five anti-semitism cases and two islam phobia cases among the schools, k-12 school in kansas and six colleges including cornell, columbia and university of pennsylvania, of course, college campuses have seen such a rise in tension over this

since october 7th. education secretary miguel cardona will be here to talk to us next hour about all of it. also overnight, the government shutdown has been averted. thank goodness. president biden signed a short-term funding br ing bill w kicks the can down the road until january and february. growing calls for republican congressman george santos to be kicked out of the house of representatives. the calls after an explosive report from the house ethics committee found he repeatedly used campaign funds for personal expenses including thousands of dollars worth of high-end designer goods, botox treatments and apparently some onlyfans watching. now santos will not run for re-election saying a year from hell but he will never back down and announced a news conference outside the capitol on november 30th. cnnen lauren fox is live for us in washington. i don't want to ask you what

he's going to talk about november 30th. goodness, who knows a the this point. my question now, tried multiple times to get him out of the house, expel him, condemn his actions and not able to. is it different now? >> reporter: yeah. definitely the tide is starting to turn, phil. you've already seen more than a dozen republicans who had voted against past efforts to expel him who now say they are prepared to vote "yes." here's a little sense of why from this ethics report that came out yesterday. new york gop congressman george santos facing possible expulsion again from the house of representatives. >> i think if he has any ethics and any respect for our government, he would step down. >> literally lied to voters and everybody that he represents. >> reporter: after a months' long investigation, the bipartisan house ethics committee says it found substantial evidence that santos violated federal law saying he

sought to fraudulently exploit every aspect of his house candidacy for his own personal financial profit. the report paints a picture of a cash-strapped candidate who used campaign money to fund a lavish lifestyle including unrelated travel and buying luxury goods. in july 2022, over $2,000 was spent in atlantic city resorts with no records of campaign events occurring there. also, a federal elections commission report list that on july 7, 2022, the campaign spent over $3,000 on an airbnb. reported as a hotel stay. despite santos being off at the hamptons, as per the campaign calendar. it also lists services that don't appear to have a campaign purpose. $1,400 at a spa for botox. more than $200 at city m.d. $,500 more for botox. more than $1,000 for an ines ta

stigs in new york. more than $4,000 purchased at hermes. smaller purchases at onlyfans, sephora, meals and parking. the damning report concludes santos knowingly filed false reports with the fec and made wereful violation wis the house. michael guest planning to file a resolution to make santos just the sixth member in u.s. history to be expelled. >> that will be enough for members to be able to make a decision as to whether or not they believe it would be proper to expel representative santos. >> reporter: according to a panel, santos refused to participate in an interview or provide a written response, and the panel did not subpoena him. santos posting on x, criticizing the committee's finding calling it bias and a disgusting politicized sphere showing the depths how low our federal

government has sumpgnkened that will not seek reelection. yesterday we got a statement from the office of the speaker, mike johnson. his spokesman saying "as members from both parties and the ethics committee and representative santos return to congress after the thanksgiving break, speaker johnson encourages all involved to consider the interests of the institution as the matter is addressed further." obviously warning everyone including congressman santos, to consider the next actions that they want to take, because as you noted, phil, there is growing calls for him to be expelled from the u.s. house of representatives. >> lauren, kind of numb to the george santos stuff at this point. read this report you actually have to try to attempt to break as many laws, or rules, inside the house, as he did as alleged in the report. lauren fox, great piece. thank you. >> what a week of bad behavior

by members of congress. >> not a great, not the best week on the hill. >> not the best. >> hey, don't have a government shutdown. >> happy about that. amen. lights are on. a second grand jury called and the president's brother subpoenaed. exclusive cnn reporting on the hunter biden probe. next. and a new poll in new hampshire shows former president trump continuing to dominate but a a new runner-u-up. momore on the e haley hypepe. that's's ahead.

welcome back. president biden's brother now subpoenaed in the criminal investigation of hunter biden's business dealings. sources tell cnn special counsel seeking documents and testimony from multiple witnesses and's now using a grand jury in california, not just the one in delaware. that suggests new charges could be coming for the president's son in a second state. joining us now, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor jennifer rodgers, anchor john avlon and cnn political commentator from

spectrum news al lewis. start, counsel, with you. this was a big part of the republicans' criticism of the first part of this probe. what about california ? why didn't you pursue things in other districts? what does the grand jury there tell you? >> nothing good for hunter biden for sure. already have gun charges in delaware. now seeking to up the ante from the misdemeanor charge was going to file on the tax side in delaware to felony probably tax charges, perhaps other charges in california. they're expanding their investigation, too. not just a matter of finding a grand jury to charge in. obviously issues subpoenas looking to go outside of what they've done before. >> can i just ask. is the criticism warranted? why didn't you follow this lead before? >> listen, i don't know exactly what david weiss and his team did. worked on it a long time. no reason to think he wasn't uncovering every lead and doing a good job. 's listen, hunter biden, if he

were anyone else, i think, would not face the situation he's facing. would not be facing this extensive investigation. would have wrapped this all up with probably civil resolution. so you know, whether it's fair or not i don't know. they're certainly going after it and i guess we'll see what they've come up with. >> there has been, especially of the white house, the view political pressure they ended up at this point and the judge as well. bringing you to our reporting that president biden is not going to be charged for the classified documents case. he will, i think, be chastised, clearly. wait and see what the special counsel has to say. political pressure to equate this, a., with trump's classified documents and b. immediately, i assume, jump on no charges and say this is an example, once again, of bias? >> look, just evidence i think of bad faith. damned if you do, damned if you don't. the president not charged evidence of to the system and

charged vindication. look at facts. underlying principles equal justice under law. what biden is accused of doing and appears doing, what mike pence was accused of doing. documents are biased end up in people's homes. the question, what was the intent, alleged purpose? in the case of donald trump we see he knew he was in possession of documents, after the documents and seems to have taken action to hide the documents nig to using or talking about national documents with significant national security implications. the details of that still need to be played out in court, of course, but equating the two, the fact pattern, what you keep your eye on. >> interesting development here in the trump and trump org civil fraud trial. they have temporarily, the court lifted the gag order. why? >> yes. an appellate court decided it was maybe constitutionally impermissible to slap a gag order on donald trump about the

statements he makes outside of court. meaning, the suggestion here that judge engoron may overstepped his boundaries and you can put orders on him about what he says when he's in the court and possibly on the courthouse steps but out in the world, do you really have the right to limit his speech? it's an interesting question, as a hypothetical. reality, of course, that it was made out of a certain exigency. hundreds and hundreds of threats are aimed at not just the judge but his staff member. >> yeah. >> in part based on what donald trump is saying on social media and elsewhere. >> yeah. >> and she's had to change her phone number and so forth and so on. look, a real argument that those statements are not just free speech but are actually behavior interfering with the administration of justice, but they seem to have lost this stage of that argument, also, the basic principle breaking down. >> if any other defendant was sending forth, attacking people in court part of the apparatus

in personal terms and family in a persistence way they'd get the book thrown at them within the context. donald trump is daring people to hold him accountable. then presumably he can play the victim. >> ask you a legal-based question on the santos stuff talking about. wait until 7:00 or 8:00 to get to the onlyfans side of this. he says in part not part of due process. they poisoned the jury pool on my ongoing investigation with the doj. this is a dirty act that tramples all over my rights. people who don't whaunderstand t the ethics committee does, does he have an argument? >> the jury pool poisoned when it comes to that they can do extensive voir dire making sure jurors are not biased. the house decides whether or not

members are abiding by the rulesable whether or not they should stay in the house. you can't just say the house isn't allowed to kick me out and investigate me because i have a criminal case ongoing. we really don't want to rely upon the justice system to make sure the house is upholding its ideals. right? that's up to the house. there's no merit in it, but, listen, his judge will be smart to make sure voir dire excludes all of those who have a view of things base and, for example, having read the investigative report. >> does anyone not have a view of george santos after the last -- whatever the view, a lot of george santos. got to go. two points. ethics committee always takes great pain to give the justice department space. delay investigations so they can complete their investigations. >> it's a little hard for them. glad he managed to do their investigative report given that. >> thank you all. appreciate it. elon musk under fire for endorsing an anti-semitic post on x formerly known at twitter.

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caribbean. here to break it down, what are we seeing? >> hurricane season actually ends end of the month but mother nature says, hold my beer. i've got one more trick up my sleeve. a storm developing across the central pacific. here it is on the satellite called potential tropical cyclone 2022 and around thanksgiving, jamaica, caribbean, caicos, a cruise or family vacation heads-up. it's going to be extremely wet across that part of the world. on the flip side, now there's this. at 2:00 p.m. tomorrow the town of barrow, alaska, most northern town plunged into black news the next 66 days. any town within that arctic circle the red ring on the 3d

sun doesn't see the sun officially rise above the horizon the next six months. on the flip side, in the summer, see the sun a long time. anchorage, alaska, could see their snowiest in history. yes, it is winter in that part of the world. phil, poppy? >> to be honest, i would hold your beer and watch you work on that thing for long periods of time. super cool. >> should have heard the control room during your hit. that is so cool. thank you. >> happy friday. >> appreciate it. turning to serious allegations. tiktok mogul sean "diddy" combs denying ing years of rape and a from his ex-girlfriend. that's ahead. and a legal win against governor ron desantis. details of the supreme court's ruling on the state's anti-drag law.

after the report dropped santos announced he will not seek re-election for a second term -- [ cheers and applause ] i know. i know. i'm so happy, too. thank god i won't have endless content for my show anymore. >> late-night shows getting what might be their final laughs at congressman -- not final laughs. a lot more to come, guys. momentum building for another effort to expel the new york republican following a scathing house ethic reports with substantial evidence he violated federal laws, stole from his campaign and delivered a "constant series of lies to voters."

an to santos accused for using fund for botox, leisure travel, and a lot of other things with no political purpose. unlawful conduct referred to the justice department. santos already pleaded not guilty to 23 federal charges including identity theft, credit card fraud and filing fraudulent campaign finance reports. the communications director for congressman santos resigned back in may after being indicted by the justice department. thank you for taking time this morning. i want to start with, if you were still counseling the congressman, that would probably be hard, but the november 30th press conference he scheduled several weeks in advance what would you tell him to do? >> well, the press conference should have happened from the beginning. doing a press conference literally at the, what may actually become the very end of his time in congress seems, you know, too little too late in

myprofessional opinion. one of the things i wanted him to do from day one was either do a press conference with reporters on the steps of capitol hill, or do a major interview, whether it be here on cnn or msnbc or wherever, because, you know, he's allowing the media to create the narrative for him rather than him setting the record straight, but given what we've seen with this ethics report, we don't even know what the record would be. >> yeah. you said -- >> at the midterm. >> exactly. you said after you resigned exactly what you're alluding to. go on an apology tour. try to make this a very different understanding of things than perhaps it was being covered as. to that point you interviewed for the job in december. we saw a vulnerability report that had been created by the campaign, and it wars very lengthy.

130-plus pages. how much did you know, when did you become aware of these things? when did you realize this is potentially as bad as we now know it is? >> so this vulnerability report, all of this, i was never even privy to any of this, and i did not learn of it until even after i had resigned, and i was just completely shocked, because when i interviewed for the job, just like anybody else, you're looking -- i remember looking on his website, campaign website, to look into see his background. obviously you go in good faith thinking when they went to college, worked for goldman sachs, that they actually did these things, and -- just to hear that he, that none of it was true, it just -- it became harder and harder, and you know, in the beginning, if just lying about his background that could eventually die down, if, one, you apologize. show real contrition and prove

to constituents you are taking this job very, very seriously, and you are committed to doing anything from, you know, minimal constituent work up to introducing bills that would actually benefit his constituents and we are seeing time and time again this is not the case. >> i want to play a clip from fox that's gone very viral in the course of the last 24 hours. take a listen. >> you know, i'll indulge you this. i just discovered about three weeks ago brought up in discussion to my office and -- >> what did you think? >> oblivious to the whole concept. >> ah, he just can't tell the truth. >> first off, a great cap to the conversation. you said you were there. >> i was there! >> you laughed, because you knew it wasn't true. i think -- what are you thinking in that moment as a staffer? >> well, in a moment for one i can't believe this is being brought up in the canon rotunda.

and house representatives in the rotunda thinking, this is becoming a bigger farce. but just hearing, because i was listening to the interview in an earpiece when kennedy said that, and i tried so hard not to laugh loud enough for audio to pick it up because i thought, okay. here's another lie. because, i mean i hate to say it, and now that the report indicates that he, in fact, knew about onlyfans because, you know, he used campaign funds to open an account. so again it's just -- sorry. cute lie. >> look, to each their own, just don't use campaign money for t. yes. >> quickly, seems momentum is heading towards he will be expelled. do you think that's true? >> i think after seeing what was in that report, because there were skeptical republicans and even skeptical democrats that wanted to wait until this report came out, and i think this

confirmed everything they had doubts about, and i could see an expulsion being brought to the floor after the thanksgiving break. >> yes. everything they had doubts about and a lot more. appreciate your time. as also, thank you. >> thank you. two decades old letter written by osama bin laden millions of views online. ow tiktok is responding to users who sympathize with the terrorist behind the 9/11 attacks.

you don't post by a maniacal piece of [ bleep ] and say it's okay. you just don't. >> and last night reacting to young people on tiktok who are sympathizing with osama bin laden over the letter he famously wrote in 2002 criticizing america in support poor israel trying to justify

the 9/11 attacks. took nearly 3,000 lives. tiktok removed the videos including users saying things like "if we're going to call osama bin laden a terrorist so is the american government." the white house responding, there is never a just ification for spreading repugnant anti-semitic likes leader of al qaeda issued after committing the worst american terrorist act in history. given where you were and what you were doing, in new york, when 9/11 happened. john, start us off. >> i was across three blocks away city hall when the towers fell and my feel and i provided the eulogy for the police and firefighters that were murdered in the attack. one of the most 9/11 --

targeting terroristic murder of americans saying it's epitomizes their feeling arranged the attacks in israel october 6th is repugnant and we've done a terrible job teaching people about the history and they're suspectable about this and raises foreign none platform proclamation. take this seriously as well. >> absolutely. i watched the towers burn from my front steps. working at home that day. and the smell, you know, you never forget it. it was horrific. john raises an important point which is that we've never known and still don't know what's in the black box, the algorithm triving tiktok. what we do know is that they are attracting more younger americans. they're spending more time on that, than all other platforms combined. >> you know, the pew poll says, what is it? a third of young americans 18 to

29 get a lot of their news on tiktok. >> it is shocking. >> stunning. >> shocking. i stick some of our appearances on there. you try to fight the good fight, but the reality is, so much misinformation just about diet and fitness alone. shoving all kinds of stuff in front of you that has no basis in fact. if that's where people are getting history from, yes. they'll think hamas is or the of like the southern christian leadership conference, or the anc or some other kind of grass roots liberation movement from the past. it's simply not so. we also have to remember -- >> comparison. >> all getting a little older. we remember 9/11. ask us, and i go right back to that date, but for somebody in their 20s, it's ancient history. >> a good point. part of why everybody's so stunned is we can't fathom the idea not understanding that moment. not giving people a pass for not knowing their history but not

youths are terrible, hate on the youth os. track back our great team, contract back how this came to become viral, it's not just as simple as people start talking about it on tiktok. the original video posted. a hashtag associated with it 2 million times, actually not a ton on tiktok. wasn't trending then tweeted by a journalist, drove it further and it caught. gets to the algorithm idea what causes things to catch fire, spread and what causes when they spread how people are getting information, then you have a huge problem. i don't know the answer to it. >> it's complicated. >> think about if a third of all chinese youth were looking at an american platform that the u.s. government controlled. it would be negligent for us not to stick in ideas ar liberty. maybe your society's not so great and you need to make some changes. why wouldn't we think that is not happening right no? >> the inverse we know is happening now.

maria ressa and other documented chinese verngs of tiktok in china is dramatically different. edited for engagement, civic engagement in a portion of it. at a time when our country is fractured not as much as politicians have us believe, this propagation and disinformation is incredibly dangerous and a form of information warfare and it's not complicated when things go viral? it is. defend integrity of history, agreed there are objective facts and such a thing of good and evil in the world especially in extreme circumstances like 9/11. >> no question about it. go from one hate to another hate being spread online. the fact owner of x, formerly twitter, elon musk, has endorsed this claim that jewish communities push "hatred against whites." pull up the tweet. jewish communities pushing exact die electrical hate against

whites they claim to want to stop using against them." musk of response, you have said the actual truth. errol? >> it continues to be outrageous and shocking, but no longer surprising that elon musk, who depending on the day of the week, is the richest person on the planet, would continue to sort of spread this kind of poison, and then wonder why, number one, he's losing a lot of advertisers. number two, losing a lot of users and number three demeaning the whole role of social media. what started out and what used to be in the previous era, a great place to connect with people and get information -- >> become a cesspool. value destruction and because there is actually -- it's important to have standards. it is important. you can say you want free speech utopia. all of a sudden pull the goalie when it comes to actually tracking disinformation and misinformation and you have an enormous amount of bots and trolls dominating a platform,

the real civic conversation goes down and musk is actually showing his cards. as to what's happened with this platform. >> yeah. >> show you who they are, believe them. israel found evidence of a tunnel underneath gaza the largest hospital as the body of another hostage is found near think. live from israel ahead. also, new york's governor signed the clean slate act. now law. 2 million people expected of crimes when joined by a real force behind all of this who saysys this law will givive peoa much-n-needed secocond chancnce

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i believe that the best anti-crime tool we have is a job. [ applause ] that was new york governor kathy hochul yesterday signing the clean slate law. it allows people convicted of crimes if they serve their sentence and stay out of trouble for a set period of time to thvir records sealed. new york is now the 12th state to enact a law like this that goes into effect one year from now and to impact 2 million people in new york. the clean slate initiative, which pushed for this law and laws like it all over the country, is personally invested in this legislation. almost two decades ago was arrested in front of her children after an $87 check she wrote for groceries bounced. paid back the money immediately after release including fees for getting arrested and going to jail thought that chapter of her life was over, but it wasn't. >> get arrest and conviction and remained on my record.

and at that moment i realized that my true sentence had just begun, because you know what ji a was no longer allowed to volunteer at my children's school. i could no longer rent where i wanted to rent, ba you it is legal for landlords to discriminate against a person with a record. i even faced barriers trying to go to college. and still to this day i am excluded from certain certifications and occupational licence. all i keep asking myself, damn, when will my sentence end? >> and she joins us now. must be surreal for you to sthi now in 12 states across the country given what you experienced? >> yes. yesterday, and onboard with me the governor signed a bill and with stroke of a pen saw 3.2 million people's lives change.

access to housing, access to jobs. barriers removed. opportunities unlocked. it was a joyous moment yesterday. [ applause ] >> i think what's most -- the most amazing thing about the legislative victory, no the to get into the weeds of this stuff, the moment the country's in on issues of crime, issues people concerned about their public safety. that type of moment insures that type of stuff can't pass. we saw opposition from the state republican leader talking about concerns about various pieces of this. why were you able to get this done, despite that opposition? >> one in three americans that have a criminal record, arrest or conviction, it's close to home. people believe in second chances or redemption. people remember the moment that they were given a second chance. where they asked for another chance, and so i believe our country, our foundation is based off of second chances, and so i

believe that folks believe this is a common sense policy. you know? it's a workforce issue. we have employers who cannot hire people because people are locked out of jobs and employment due to an arrest or conviction. there are over 44,000 collateral consequences that people of arrests or convictions, meaning can't get licences, certifications, for the simple jobs just doing hair, cosmetology. so i believe that people know this is a policy from the left, from the right, and people in the middle. >> there is a lot of pushback from the right in state of new york. most serious crimes include murder and sex crimes and most other felonies not part of this. a change before passed. what about republicans say attempted murder, gang assault, arson included? heard also from a new york state senator, dean murray her, full records will not be available to landlords or people with crimes

against children may be allowed to work with children again. what is your response to that criticism? a. great question, poppy. what i here traveling across the country in red and blue states and i talk to republicans and liberal, saying this is a public safety issue we have to put people back to work. people need access to be jjobs, alternative measures not going back to prison.recidivism and nt back to work. i don't hear that across the country but that this is opportunity to put people back to work and help our economy. >> and business leaders, jamie diamond thrilled, paraphrasing, your story. saw a piece of it there. take us from the moment you were describing to this moment now. >> it is surreal. i will say that i still don't have a clean slate just yet, because i live in the state of florida, but hope is on the way. but seeing that 2.3 million

people in the state of new york have a pathway to get their record clears have a pathway to jobs and to housing, it was emotional yesterday. you have, we don't usually see legislative cry when a bill is signed? the governor get emotional. the governor said never seen a bill bring big businesses like walmart, jpmorgan, small, big businesses directly people coming together saying people deserve a second chance. >> glad you brought up big companies. something, for example, chase morgan trying to hire more of them, but big companies need to now act in hiring people? >> yes. people are eligible to come back to work. there is a responsibility for the workforce to say now, welcome people back into the workforce and laborers and build our economy together. >> sheena, the work you've done is extraordinary. >> thank you for coming in. appreciate it. "cnn this morning" continues right now.