here was where sam wanted to be in terms of moving fast on ai and where the board wanted to be and you look at ilea, a name that doesn't get used as much but an important name in all of this and where he wanted to go, but we do have this tweet from him, i deeply regret my participation in the board's actions, i never intended to harm openai. what do we need to know about that divide and what it means for humanity? >> that was quite a tweet. narcissism, welcome to my world in silicon valley. here is the deal, they wanted to move slower this group of people and not slower necessarily, had a thought of where ai was going to benefit humanity. i don't think sam altman was against that. they didn't like the creation of a platform essentially, he had announced an app store so that lots of developers could get on it. he was leaning into the relationship with microsoft. they felt like this should not be a for profit in that regard,

although it was, and so they had a thing that they called miss alignment, that there was a linement on how to develop this technology and who should be able to commercialize it. what's ironic is now this group is going to microsoft to do just that. they created -- instead of working together to figure out some alignment, i guess, they have now created a giant competitor and a giant company that could do whatever it wants in this case and it's not -- it's not under the strictures of these people. so they have -- they have an idea that ai is going to kill us, i think that's if you want to put it simply. >> boiled down. kara swisher, thank you so much and thank you for the breaking news and all of that reporting. we will see you soon. thanks for joining us, we will see you right back here tomorrow. "cnn news central" is now. ♪ a high stakes hearing and a courtroom showdown for donald

trump. where is the line between trump's free speech rights and the concern over threats to anyone involved in the election interference case? it's all about to happen. and safe from war, but still in a fight for their lives. 28 neonatal babies evacuated from gaza's largest hospital are now in egypt. the incredibly moving moments at the rossing. >> and remembering rosalynn carter, the trail blazing first lady and her nearly 80 year long love story with former president jimmy carter. this is c"cnn news central." happening in just a few minutes, the legal fight over what donald trump can and can't say about the cases against him, kind of kicks up to a whole new level today. this is about the gag order put in place against former president trump in the federal election subversion case. trump's team says it violates

that gag order violates his first amendment rights and hurts his ability to campaign for election for president. the judge overseeing his case, though, however, has argued that trump does not have the right to say anything he wants, especially when it comes to publicly targeting court staff, witnesses and special counsel jack smith. now it's up to an appeals court to decide. >> obviously a lot to talk about here. that's why i have jeremy saland. do you think it's being upheld, why or why not? >> i think there is a good chance it could be upheld but there are real issues and one of those biggest issues is what does it mean to target someone? who is being targeted, how is that defined? how does donald trump say what he wants to say and has that right to say what he wants to say and we know he does, but what does it mean in the realm of that defamation target, is it too vague? >> i think on that point, you

know, while these are two different jurisdictions as we keep track of all of the trump cases here on the state civil side the judge previously barred trump and his lawyers in a similar gag order but then an appeals court temporarily lifted that gag order citing constitutional rights at issue. again, federal, criminal, versus state, civil, very different, but could that in any way inform or give an indication of what could happen here? how do you see them as different? s>> i will say the same but different which is a hard thing to say in the form of a law. i think what we're going to look at here is what type of restraints can we put on the former president? should he be looked at as you and i should be and our right to speak our mind and share our truths whatever that might be. even if we don't like what he has to say, he has a right to say them. how does that coincide with the campaign and with him being the former president? it's a really interesting issue. civilly in new york he's dealing

with two separate -- a distinct issue about whether or not his businesses are operating legally and lawfully but at its heart that first amendment right doesn't change weather in new york, alabama, florida or in federal court. >> and obviously we've got a lot of perspective to hit here. as i understand we have evan perez. >> let's go, jeremy, stand by. >> hold on. >> let's go outside court right now. evan perez is standing by. evan, what is going to happen today? >> reporter: well, kate, what we expect is that the -- this appeals court panel is going to hear from the former president's legal team who are arguing that his first amendment rights and his status really, his status as a leading presidential candidate means that this gag order is unstupgs nl. what i expect you're going to hear a lot from this three-judge panel, two of them appointed by former president obama, one of them appointed by president biden, is whether the fact that trump is a candidate for

presidency, whether that means he needs to be treated differently from pretty much any other defendant in this federal court. look, i mean, judges put redirections on what defendants can say all the time. they restrict comments on the case in part to protect the jury pool, for instance, right, to make sure the jury pool can be seen as fair. so the question is whether donald trump the fact that he is running for president means that he is free to criticize everybody. right now judge chutkan says, look, you can't criticize the court personnel, you can't criticize the special counsel and his family certainly. the question is whether that restriction infringes on donald trump's freedom, his first amendment rights and whether the fact that he is the presidential candidate means anything at all to this court. guys? >> yeah, and, evan, you know,

jeremy, evan brings up a good point because obviously one of the questions here is would trump be treated as any other defendant might. obviously he is running for president. i mean, just look at the calendar of his case hearings, hearings in various cases, versus different election days and primaries that are happening. they're almost happening back to back in some cases so you can't separate the two. does the fact that he's running for president make him different than any other defendant? >> if you ask jack smith the answer is unequivocally absolutely no. he is no different as i said before as you or me if we were before a judge in the same situation. but to donald trump's point he does have these rights, does have the ability to run, has that first amendment right but that first amendment right is not absolute and there is a rule in that district court, rule 57.7 which in criminal proceedings a judge can say that your right to say certain things are limited. she has that right. there is a balance here and there's many different cases up in the supreme court that predate obviously what we're hearing today that rule of what is that test.

how do we make the determination? is it immediately inciting unlaw unlawfulness? is there an alternative to restrict that type of speech that doesn't require a gag order? there is a lot of competing views and competing voices to make this decision. >> look, we will see what happens. and then the bigger question is going to be how do you actually enforce some of these gag orders as they go into effect but we will see. jeremy, good to see you in-person. >> we will hear, too. >> true. coming up for us, the first group of newborn babies has been successfully evacuated from gaza's largest hospital and made it across to egypt. the latest on their journey and how they are doing. right now we have that coming up. also this, plans are being announced for honoring the life and legacy of former first lady rosalynn carter following her passing this weekend. we have more on that ahead.

this morning the first group of neonatal babies evacuated from al shifa hospital have now made it out of gaza. 28 newborns now receiving care in egypt. we're showing you now video from a few hours ago as dozens of ambulances and medical staff with incubators as you see right there on hand helping to transfer the babies to their care. it's been a dangerous task getting them there. according to the palestine red crescent society several babies died before aid workers were able to evacuate 31 of them over the weekend. according to egyptian officials two newborns are staying in southern gaza and another staying with his parents in northern gaza. >> those children look so tiny. also this morning we're awaiting any news on a possible hostage deal, this as the idf releases new video footage they say shows two hamas hostages arriving at al shifa on october 7th, the day of the terror attacks. the idf also took cnn to the

tunnel shaft they say proves hamas was running operations under the hospital. first, cnn's he will knee eleni giokos joins us. >> we have been tracking this story for over a week now when the egyptian health minister hold us they were anticipating 36 neonatal babies, they were waiting every single day last week with ambulances, with incubators, with various equipment and doctors and personnel every day disappointed. today finally 28 neonatal babies crossing that rafah border after a treacherous trip down from northern gaza from al shifa hospital where we know the idf raided last week and we know there was war raging, we hard about the stories of just minimal supplies, lack of oxygen, lack of incubators, no fuel to get those incubators going and of course no real communication. they went down to the emirate

hospital yesterday after safe passage was created and then we saw those images of the babies crying and intervention from the medical staff there and also a big fear that they might also run out of fuel today, this morning, finally through that rafah border where we had seen ambulances and staff as well as the ministry on the ground there to take them on. we have to remember that 11 of those babies were in critical condition according to the world health organization. all of them fighting infection. and this just is basically an indication of just what kind of conditions they were treated in at al shifa. now over in egypt they're going to be sent to various hospitals depending on their condition. we hear from officials and they tell me that so many of them are underweight. now, why only 28? we know from al shifa doctors that some of them died at the hospital over the past week because of the conditions there. some were reunited with their families, but importantly, of the 28 that arrived here in

egypt, only four mothers crossed the border, only four parents. really think about that. what happens to -- what happened to the rest of their family members? are they alive? are they able to be reunited down the line? and then six nurses were also accompanying them. but the big priority here is to try and get them healthy, to stabilize them and to deal with the issue at hand. various tests have been run on the babies and of course intervention is absolutely pivotal right now. the health minister tells us that he's happy and he's relieved they finally are in egypt. >> and even amid this effort incredibly tough decisions being made. as we've seen every second can make a difference for these babies. he will knee joke keys, thank you so much. we turn to that new video of hostages in tunnels that has been released by the idf. israel says that this security camera video from october 7th shows two hostages being taken into al shifa hospital, one clearly by force you saw there,

the other injured and on a stretcher, surrounded by men with guns. cnn's oren liebermann has more on this. you also went to gaza to the al shifa medical complex this weekend with the idf. what did you see? >> reporter: so we spent about six hours inside of gaza, we entered in at 9:00 at night and didn't come out until 3:00 in the morning. so we were there in darkness and made even more dark by the fact that there isn't power in northern gaza or in gaza city where our journey focused. so even as we stepped out near the al shifa hospital complex we could barely see anything and had to pick our way along the streets of gaza. our goal was to see what we could of the newly exposed tunnel shaft that the idf had discovered and revealed, only a day or two earlier. from our own eyes it was quite clear that there was a substantial structure there, made of concrete, with what looked to be the central shaft of a spiral staircase, but at night and with the little light we were allowed to use for our

own safety reasons there was little we could see into the shaft itself but the idf lowered a camera with a special asset into the tunnel and we geolocated this tunnel, we were able to see it was the location where we had seen and that it revealed a shaft that went down the spiral staircase that looked like it was there and then the tunnel going quite a distance there according to the idf it went some 55 meters or more than 150 feet or so and at its end a metal door. the idf says they have not opened that door because they fear it may be booby trapped. it is the strongest evidence yet or the strongest imagery yet that backs up the case that the idf is trying to build, that there is hamas infrastructure underneath the hospital itself. that is the argument they have made. they have asserted in not only the past weeks but in the past years that hamas has used the hospital above as cover for what it calls as terror infrastructure below. they have not been able to prove that conclusively yet but this and what we saw is part of

building that case. >> sure seems so. oren great having you you get in in there. negotiation toss free hostages still held by hamas are closer to a deal than, quote, perhaps any point. that's according to white house deputy national security adviser john finer. cnn learned that a possible agreement to free 50 hostages could be close potentially days a what you but things very delicate. sources say a recent draft of the deal proposes a four to five day pause in fighting to release those being held captive. the same sources added while gaps and major sticking points have begun to close talks could still break down. here is what president biden said last night. >> mr. president, when will more hostages get out? when will more hostages get out?

[ inaudible ]. >> so obviously not wanting to commit to anything at this point. cnn's arlette saenz joins us now from the white house. so what more are we learning about this potential deal or at the very least what's going worked on right now? >> reporter: omar, there's cautious optimism within the white house that negotiators could be close to reaching an agreement to secure the release of these hostages from hamas, but officials caution that there have been many fits and starts throughout this process and that niece negotiations are still ongoing. now, as you noted, there is a draft proposal that has been circulated in recent weeks that proposed a four or five-day pause in fighting in order to have the release of about 50 hostages from hamas. that is according to sources familiar with the talks. now, publicly the israelis have pushed for the release of all hostages but cnn has learned that there is -- israelis have present add list of about 100 hostages that they want to see released as part of a potential deal. hamas has said they would be closer to releasing 50 hostages with that multiday pause in

fighting, but there are still a host of issues that would need to be worked out before any final agreement is reached. one concern is about that additional humanitarian aid that has been going into gaza, there is a debate over how many trucks of additional aid would be part of a deal, how they would inspect the trucks and be sure that the aid was going directly to civilians instead of hamas fighters. these negotiations have been going on with the qataris acting as the mediator between israel and hamas. in recent days there were points where hamas had gone silent in these negotiations. one of the areas they have been concerned about was that israeli raid on al shifa hospital but those talks did get back under way in recent days. while the president has called for these longer pauses to not just get aid in, but also to get hostages out he has so far resisted calls for a ceasefire. in a "washington post" op-ed over the weekend the president doubled down on that sentiment, saying, quote, as long as hamas

clinician to its ideology of destruction, a ceasefire is not peace. to hamas's members every ceasefire is time they exploit to rebuild their stockpile of rockets, reposition fighters and restart the killing by attacking innocents again. this comes despite there being some international pressure for a ceasefire, some pressure domestically here at home for a ceasefire but so far the president has resisted those calls and the white house today is hoping that there would be some type of agreement soon to secure the release of these hostages which people have been working around the clock on to try to secure their release since the start of this war. >> and so many people obviously keeping a close eye on this and hoping for good news but as you mentioned it is going to be a process. arlette saenz, thank you so much. >> joining us now is white house and first alert correspondent for the white house times david sanger. good to see you, david. what are you hearing about the negotiations to get some of these hostages released? not just the contours of it, but really where the administration sees this right now.

>> well, clearly, kate, the administration is more optimistic than they've been at any point since the october 7th terror attack. obviously that is good. they are concerned that the details of how this happens could unwind it. the hostages would not be all released at once, they would probably come out in some number of batches and of course this five-day or so pause in the fighting is sort of the key element for both sides. israel is very worried that once the five days begins, they will be under great pressure not to resume the attacks on hamas. that, you know, they're viewing this not as a ceasefire, but a pause. hamas by releasing just 50 hostages will be left with 200 or so, we are not certain of the exact numbers, it will probably be a little bit under 200 and

the question is what would it take to get the rest of those out? would it be more pauses? would it be a full ceasefire, which, as you saw, the president still opposes. >> that gets to something kind of critical in all of this. getting hostages out, any number of hostages out and released is huge, but it also comes with this question of what happens after and kind of what conditions it creates afterwards. is there a concern amongst your sources and people you're talking to in the biden administration about kind of like what it will be like to start back up when they see israel starting back up with the ground operation and offensive after this release. kind of what that day after kind of looks like, since it seems it could kind of reset the table a little bit. >> it could. i think, kate, in a very big way. there are two kinds of day after questions, until recently the day after question we've been asking is who runs gaza if not

hamas? and obviously the administration's view, the israelis view and probably a good number of palestinians' view is that hamas cannot after this terror attack. and the administration was making the point throughout the weekend that hamas has vowed to do more terror attacks on israel, which makes it, of course, all the more impossible to imagine in the marne or israeli view that they could be left running a territory next door. but at the same time there's a significant divide between the u.s. and israel over the long-term running of gaza and whether israel would be administering that for some interim time as prime minister netanyahu said. you've raised the shorter term day after which is what happens on that fifth day? if the israelis resume the bombing they will look obviously like new aggressors in this and so the question is could you

build one pause into another and do that without having declared a full ceasefire? >> hugely important questions and such an uncertain -- such an uncertain pathway. good to see you, david. thank you so much. >> good to see you and happy thanksgiving. >> thank you, dear. coming up, we're remembering trailblazer former first lady rosalynn carter this morning. tributes to her are pouring in as we learn new details about the plans for her funeral and memorial services. that's next.

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this morning we're remembering former first lady rosalynn carter. funeral and memorial services will take place next week after she died at the carters' home in plains, georgia, yesterday, surrounded by family. she was 96 years old. rosalynn carter was a champion for mental health causes and a beloved partner and adviser to her husband former president jimmy carter. they celebrated their 77th wedding anniversary in july. cnn's rafael romo joins us from outside the carter center this morning. rafael, obviously she made such an impact over the course of her life, tributes are pouring in. what are you seeing there at the carter center? >> reporter: hi, omar. well, we were here at the carter center less than three days ago on friday evening when they had announced originally that the former first lady had to be put in hospice care at her home in plains, georgia, and sunday

afternoon the carter center confirmed that rosalynn carter had died at the age of 96. they said she died peacefully at home surrounded by her family. almost immediately there was a statement released by the 39th president of the united states, jimmy carter, talking about his wife. he said that rosalynn was my equal partner in anything i ever accomplished. she gave me wise guidance and encouragement, encouragement when i needed t as long as rosalynn was in the world i always knew that somebody loved and supported me. omar, as you would expect, there has been condolences and tributes from different parts of the country and the world. some of the first to react to the passing of rosalynn carter were former presidents and first ladies, for example, i can tell you about former president bill clinton who gave the presidential medal of freedom to both carters in 1999, he said

the following about rosalynn carter, he says rosalynn will be forever remembered as the embodiment of a life lived with a purpose. and just a few moments ago, omar, i had an opportunity to talk to the ceo of the president carter library here and this is what she had to say about the emotions expressed by the former president. let's take a listen. >> they knew this day would come and the fact that they wanted to make sure that they honored each other in whatever stage of life they were in. so this was a statement that he wrote and he supported and it really indicated the partnership that they had together for 77 years and more. >> reporter: and, omar, next monday there will be a wreath laying ceremony here at the library where the public will be allowed to pay their respects. it will begin -- the ceremony is in honor of the former first

lady. back to you. >> of course, you mentioned you were there covering when she was admitted to hospice care, there were many questions about what would happen next and of course we're here, rafael romo, thank you for staying on top of it all. >> joining us to talk more about this, the life, the legacy, the impact of the first lady is stewart mclaurin. good to see you. thank you for coming in. rosalynn carter, she recreated the office of the first lady. she was the first first lady to have an official chief of staff. i mean, how did she break the mold in this role and helped shape kind of what it is today as we know it in terms of the office of the first lady? >> well, we have had so many of our first ladies who have had a significant impact on president sees throughout the course of our nation's history, but it was in 1977 that rosalynn carter created this office of the first lady in the iconic east wing space that we now refer to as the home or the base of operations for our modern first ladies. she did create a staff and she

was substantively involved in president carter's presidency from attending cabinet meetings, morning briefings. it was really integral to his presidency. >> and even reading from the small things to the big things but everything has significance that mrs. carter became the first presidential wife to carry a briefcase daily to a white house office. this is kind of -- these are important moments. what this woman and her fortitude and her strength and her just pure awesomeness kind of did in terms of recreating the office. we can show everyone the beautiful official portrait of her that the white house historical association released. one of her many contributions was working to expand kind of the white house collection of art and paintings and bringing more national attention to all forms of art. tell me about that passion of hers specifically. >> well, it was in 1979 that she actually advocated for the

creation of a white house preservation fund that allowed us as a private partner to the white house to acquire so many of these art objects that are in the white house today. we were founded by first lady jacquelyn kennedy and each first lady since then has had a significant role, but mrs. carter in creating that presidential fund or preservation fund with us was really significant to help make these things possible and a number of things, fine arts, decorative arts, furnishings, were added to the white house collection during the carter presidency. >> what do you think her greatest impact and legacy will be from her time as first lady? >> well, kate, you know it's 42 years since president and mrs. carter left the white house and it's times like these when we reflect on them and it's a shame that in their lives they can't hear these wonderful things that are being said about them, but last evening i was looking back at some of her immediate interviews, of the reports on

her from when she was first lady and the soft voice, the poignancy with which she spoke but the strength that you knew that she had, referred to as the steel magnolia, no doubt that she was his closest and most trusted adviser in the presidency and in the years since. and i can only imagine the loss that he and the family are feeling this morning and the loss for our nation. we have swonderful first ladies that support each of our presidents, we often speculate would they be president without having that woman with them as first lady, as their first supporter and i think in this case that's a really good question because she was a strength and an inspiration to him certainly before, absolutely during, and certainly after the presidency. >> yeah, i think jimmy carter himself has said in many different ways and many different times that he would be nowhere near where he was reached or the man that he was without the love and support and

strength of rosalynn. good to have you on on this day. thank you so much, stewart. >> thank you. coming up, a rift among democrats over military aid to israel. who wants conditions attached and who thinks that will just help hamas? next. also sam altman's ousting from chatgpt's parent company is shaking up silicon valley. now hundreds of f openai stataf are ththreatening to quit. we will explain coming up.

there is a new fight brewing up right now over aid to israel. this time between democrats. and a new call by one top democrat to impose conditions on

u.s. aid to israel. snort bernie sanders coming out to say benjamin netanyahu and his government must understand, quote, not a penny will be coming to israel from the u.s. unless there is a fundamental change in their military and political positions. the u.s. sends billions of dollars you know to israel every year and congress is currently struggling over sending an additional $14 billion requested by president biden. here is what sanders wants in terms of conditions before more money is sent, a pause in military operations and an end to what he calls indiscriminate bombing in gaza. he's also called for protecting the rights of gazans to return home and also that israel commit to no long-term israeli reoccupation much gaza. one democrat that has not sitting well, new jersey democrat congressman josh gottheimer who said that those conditions and conditions like that would help hamas in their goal of completely annihilating israel and the jewish people, would weaken america's national security and our fight against terror. it comes as a new poll shows

that while a majority of voters, all voters, 55%, say they support u.s. aid to israel, almost half of democrats in a new poll by nbc news says that they are opposed to it. joining me right now democratic congressman josh gottheimer. thanks for coming in. why do you think bernie sanders is wrong on the conditions that he's asking for? >> well, after one of the leading terrorist organizations in the world has attacked israel and killed americans and has americans and others hostage still right now, the idea that we would do anything to help a terrorist organization, hamas, that's iranian backed actually get a leg up makes zero sense to me and they still have americans hostage just to be very clear and the leadership of hamas has said publicly that there will be a second, third and fourth october 7th. in other words, until every jewish person, until israel is destroyed as is in hamas's charter, they are not going to stop. so i wouldn't know why we would

do anything to back off crushing and killing the terrorists as the president or commander in chief has said. we have to keep that up, as well as part of our other goals which is getting all the hostages home, including the american hostages, and making sure we get humanitarian aid into the region. and hamas is the one that's literally putting innocent palestinians in harm's way, right? so understand they've made it clear that they are not interested at all in protecting palestinians. they're using them as human shields. they are not letting them go into any tunnels that they've built to protect palestinians. right, they just want to use them as human shields and that's what they're continuing to do. >> in your statement you make clear that putting conditions on any aid only serves to help hamas, which you're saying here. and i know you're not suggesting that that is the intention of progressives like bernie sanders to help hamas. what do you think, then, is the intention in your mind? if it is so clear-cut from your perspective that putting conditions on leads to hamas

benefitting, where is the discussion then and where should the discussion about in order to get past this? >> well, i really can't speak to the intent of my colleagues. all i would say is we know the facts. we know that hamas butchered, raped, killed 1,200 until people including scores of americans on october 7th. we know that they literally have military bases underneath hospitals. we know that they are using innocent palestinians as shields when i believe we must continue to do everything we can to continue to get humanitarian aid in there by hamas is blocking. why would we do anything to support the hamas which is iranian backed. we see houthis firing rockets at americans and israelis. so they are all attacking us, they are iranian backed. so china, russia, hamas, they are all working -- iran -- all working together against america and against our key ally, the

democracy in the region. why would we do anything to actually hinder our objectives, our commander in chief's objectives? >> i want to ask you i mentioned some new polling out and what it says kind of where the temperature is right now amongst u.s. voters with regard to president biden's handling of foreign policy, the war in israel, and also kind of just his approval overall. this new nbc news poll shows that there is some trouble among democratic voters for president biden when it comes to this. according to this poll among democrats 51% think israel has gone too far in its military action, 27% israel's actions are justified, 49% are opposed to the u.s. sending any -- to sending more aid to israel. when you see polling like that, how much does that worry you? >> so i dug a little deeper into that poll as you have to in these polls. i thought the most interesting finding in the poll which actually everyone should look at

is that 77% of democratic primary voters support the president in that poll. that's the -- his highest number yet since he is in office. and if you look at the poll as well about favorability, hamas is at 1% the lowest and israel when you ask favorability in a set of choices is at the highest. so i actually think those are the key numbers in that poll. >> do you want to make the case that this polling is signs of good things to come? >> no, the case -- no, no, the case i'm making is if you look at will democratic voters vote for donald trump or president biden? if you look at that poll what's clear is that biden is actually quite strong and that they will continue to stand behind the president, democratic primary voters. that's the key number, i believe, in that poll. listen, nobody wants to see this conflict happening, right, and nobody wants it, but the bottom line is i saw footage last week from go pros and from hamas's go

pros and from their phone footage that was screened as you know in private for many members of congress. what happened, the atrocities that happened that day on october 7th, the lengths and depths they went to including raping women, young women and girls before they killed them and we saw imagery that i will never be able to unsee, including decapitating people and burning people. like the stuff that you saw, the lengths that hamas a terrorist organization went to, you have to kill and crush them or they will keep coming back as they admit to. right? hamas's leadership admits there will be a second, third and fourth october 7th. so they will keep coming. you have to stop them now. and they are the ones -- hamas is the ones putting palestinian -- innocent palestinians in harm's way. they are the ones doing it. and our goals are very clear, we have to the hostages out, we have to get them home, especially americans, we have to make sure we get humanitarian

aid into the region which i strongly support and we have to get an aid package passed to do that and of course we have to kill and crush the terrorists. >> and getting that aid, i mean, that's where the work lies ahead for congress but it's not going anywhere fast. congressman gottheimer, thank you for coming in. coming up for us, ousted openai ceo sam altman has a new job already. where he landed and the chaotic details surrounding his firing what --

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can rebrand itself as your friend. this morning a blockbuster shakeup in the world of artificial intelligence. just ousted by the company he co-foundedm sap altman is joining microsoft and so is brett brockman, two men who brought chatgpt, and so there is a lot going on and that why vi vanessa yurkevich, and so, now, a lot of negotiations, and they wanted altman to return to

openai, but now he goes to microsoft. >> i don't believe they could have seen this coming. but the board had ousted sam altman, and then the board said, if you don't bring him back, we will leave and join him at microsoft. and that is sign by 500 employees. and sam altman is saying that he is going to leave the company, but they say he has not been transparent, and now, there is wanting to push the a.i. forward and then part of the board wants to dial itut many of the employees have followed him, including the co-founder greg altman, and then there were talks of bringing him back, and that did not happen, and then

bring in microsoft who have invested in open a.i., and they have now hired altman now to run artificial intelligence at microsoft, and moments ago we heard from one of the board members who was part of that four-person board that fired altman, and he says that he actually regrets the fact that he has created all of this chaos at openai and he is one of the more than 500 people who has signed this open letter calling for the board to resign which means that including himself. this all matters because artificial intelligence is here, and the future, and there are serious conversations about whether or not it is moving too fast, and can it be weaponized and what does it mean for all of us? there are so many businesses that rely on chatgpt everyday. i want to read a quote from dan ives who put it perfectly in the

nutshell, the openai was at the table, and then it was taken over in the world series move of poker for the ages with the valley and wall street watching. this going to continue to unfold over today, but so much in 72 hours, and changing game of a.i. >> so much has happened, and i am sure so much more. we will have vanessa yurkevich with the latest. thank you so much. and now, a gag order in the criminal election case lifted, and violation of speech or guardrails to protect the potential witnesses involved in the case? we will take you there.

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