snow because they want to go play in it so you take the snow when you can get it but they really don't want it in others. there's the heavy snow. parts of maine, pick up a foot of snow, and that would be some good news if you want to go play in it, i guess. now, flight radar 24, is still showing us all the flights pamela, that are in the sky. that 6000 but now 4000 were delayed today but the good news of all of this, only 68 cancellations across the united states. so yes, you may have been delayed but you didn't get canceled, so you are not trying to make up for that flight tomorrow. that's the good news. look at this mess, i'm glad that the planes aren't this. >> erin burnett out front starts right now. outfront next, breaking

news, the israeli government meeting behind closed doors debating a plan to free more than 30 hostages. we will speak to the family of the youngest american hostage, a three-year-old girl. likening abortion to the holocaust, we are reviewing more than 100 times as speaker johnson interviews and you will want to hear a lot more of what he uncovered there. let's go out front. good evening, outfront tonight the breaking news, we are standing by for a crucial vote with the fate of more than 230 people hanging in the balance. israel's full cabinet is meeting and about to vote at

any point. it's past 2:00 in the morning. they are voting on a deal to release some of the hostages that were taken from israel on october 7th mac in the terrorist attack. we are going to bring you the news as soon as the vote takes place. the full cabinet, i want to be clear here, has already been meeting through the hours of the night here . five hours already meeting, debating details of the deal. what we know so far, 50 women and children taken by hamas, would be released as part of the deal. in exchange, israel would release three palestinian prisoners for every israeli civilian that is release. a three for one deal. there would be a pause that allows people from the red cross to be able to visit people who are still in gaza. >> we are very close to bringing the hostages home very

soon. >> it could be very soon, if the deal passes. the first hostages could be released in just about 24 hours. we are learning one of the hostages that america is hoping will be released is a three- year-old, abigail, she's the youngest american hostage. her parents were killed by hamas, and in the moment i will speak with abigail's cousin, along with daniel lifshitz, his grandmother was released. his grandfather is still being held. this comes as the israeli government has come under intense pressure to feed -- free the hostages. benjamin netanyahu made the case to his cabinet but it would give israel the upper hand. here's why, he says. >> all of the security forces supported fully and they made

it clear in their professional assessment that the security of our forces will be guaranteed during the siege. they understand that will the war effort not be compromised, this would allow the idf to prepare for the continuation of the fighting. >> it's a significant thing to say because it's a complete about-face, they have been saying only possible favor, so the fact that he is saying this and has changed his tune so significantly is very important in terms of the likelihood of hostages being released. and we are learning tonight that israel said it has pushed further into a tunnel underneath the al-shifa hospital complex. they have released two more images of what they claim is a blast door that they have now breached , we have a lot of breaking news to cover. alex is in washington for us as

well. matthew, on the ground where you are, the cabinet meeting, the debate over the hostage deal heading into the sixth hour, obviously after 2:00 in the morning where you are. how close do you think they are to a vote, and what is the main hold of as to why this is going into a six hour? >> yeah, obviously, we are pretty close to a vote because virtually all of the ministers inside that cabinet, there's approximately 40 or so ministers who have said what they wanted to say. everybody gets the ability to speak and that's why it has taken so long. there are some objections, as well, amongst particularly the white -- right-wing part.

the right-wing parties in particular and benjamin netanyahu, has said this, this is something that's a priority for him as well. they want to make sure that the military objectives to destroy hamas are fulfilled, and that this hostage negotiation, this deal, doesn't derail the ability of the armed forces to strike hard, continue to strike at other groups, inside gaza. there's also concern that's been expressed according to the official government speaking to about the fact that it's just about 50 people that are being negotiated for. the concern being that not only is that women and children and none of the men, but once the 50 women and children will be released, what will the pressure to be released be for

the men? >> the expectation still is the deal will be greenlighted but it's up attracted process. >> up slowly, going into the sixth hour and it's after 2:00 a.m. we are awaiting details on whether we get that vote anytime now, abigail is the youngest american hostage taken by hamas, you see a picture of her there. family has chosen to share this. and noah, you know, sitting with you, you are just sitting, waiting. waiting to find out whether there will be a release and whether she will be a part of it. do you believe, are you letting yourself believe that this could finally be the moment? >> we have to keep a bit of

hope so that we can keep functioning. but until abigail is home with her family, we can't celebrate anything or be happy. >> i guess it's impossible to read anything into it, how are you even managing this moment? we are going into the sixth hour. everything hangs in the balance for you. >> for 45 days now, this has been our lives, everything hangs in the balance of every moment. every moment our hearts are with abigail, we don't know where she is and how she's doing. this is a continuation of that torture. >> her birthday is friday. and she turns four. >> yeah. >> i'm thinking children that age, she probably doesn't even know what day it is. does she even know the date of her birthday, you don't even know. >> we really hope that she is with her neighbors, a mother

and three children. >> she was with them when she was taken? >> yes, and if they know the date, they know her birthday. >> the details of what she went through are incomprehensible. her parents were killed and she saw that happen. she actually saw that. you said her father was holding her when he was killed and she crawled out and ran to the neighbors house. how do you even process what she existed through? >> we don't. and we are just waiting to be able to hug her. this girl belongs at home with her family after everything she went through, she needs to be with her family. >> and she has an older brother and sister, six and 10. they are going to a horrific

loss and trauma but they must just miss her so much every day. how do you all even handle talking to them about this? >> it's really difficult. we all want to protect children, impossible now to protect these children from the most horrible things in the world. at least they are with their grandparents and their aunt and uncle who can be there for them to make sure they can get the love and care they deserve and we hope abigail will be with them, soon. >> i know, it's hard to hold out hope that you guys must feel right now and if this has passed, that she would be in the first group and you just don't know. but what do you say to members of the war cabinet right now. people who are holding out for saying, for these reasons they gave, this is why they want to wait or they want to make sure they have assurances on when fighting will resume.

what do you say to them? >> i'm not a politician, neither is abigail, neither are these hostages. i was i had a good answer but i hope that they will do everything that they can do to bring our loved ones back, our grandparents, aunts and uncles, family members, they've along at home and i hope they understand that and are doing everything they can to bring them home. >> i think the whole world thoughts are with all of them, and of course this youngest little american girl, abigail. she will be home when she turns four. let's pray for that. >> thank you. as noah and i are speaking, we will see when the vote comes, but it's this human face, this little girl and so many others, their lives are what is at stake right now and right now we have two guests with us with decades of experience in hostage negotiations, bill andrew and rob d'amico, i appreciate both of you being with us and rob, you know, you hear noah right,

i mean this is a three-year-old little girl, she will turn four on friday, these are the human beings who right now, their lives are on the line. what do you read into what is happening in the war cabinet, the entire cabinet right now entering the sixth hour without a vote? >> i think there's a lot of arguing going back and forth, are they getting as much as they can out of this exchange, how is it going to and what they want and continue what they want. normally in negotiations, you don't have that many people involved in the actual decision, and the other part that -- bad part is the families, so many of these negotiations and recoveries, the families don't really know about it because it's an absolute roller coaster. as you were just talking to a mom, the ups and downs, we've

had recovered people getting on planes and then having to get off and it has crashed at the last second, the last-minute details really get in there, and the families are going through this, and it's so tough. >> it is so public . what do you say about something like this actually being executed. you are talking about hostages who are not in the same location. they are being held we believe, in groups but in different places. by different members of hamas, and some possibly by not members of hamas, in an exchange that would not be all 50 at once, right, assuming that 50 is the number that has been widely reported, that there would be 10 one day, 10 another day, how does something like this, how do you even orchestrate it? >> well, it is incredibly complex, and one of the ways to begin it is just by very

carefully listening and building some rapport and trust, you are demonstrating that you are endeavoring to really understand the real new want and details of both the hostage takers, and understanding all of the complexities of the additional party, these negotiations are going through third parties, and you have to understand them, and really pinpoint these details. this is a critical time, and as this is being discussed, even that is such a critical point, to show that this is carefully being considered. yes, it's given to this, that there's real deep commitment to following through on it with fidelity. >> the word fidelity, when you

think about the negotiation for brittney griner, you had two parties, the u.s. and russia who, are in the middle of a proxy situation with ukraine, there's no trust but they managed to do a deal. is that something that applies here? when you are literally causing the -- causing the fighting for a few days and israel has made clear that it will go right back in and it says, you know, kill every member of hamas, how do you do a deal in that context? >> you have to have trust at the present moment, and it can really seem complicated but the people that are carrying out, you have intermediaries, who have more trust with hamas, and israelis who have more trust with us, that in fact, it's so

delicate. one thing that happens in here that's not right, if someone perceives that they are slighted or didn't get what they were promised, it can affect the rest of them. each time they do this, and there would be five times they would do this and something goes wrong, each side can feel that way but it's trusted at the moment and unfortunately, you have to trust some of these people. we have released hostages and then had to wait a day or two in order for them, for like them to get over back in afghanistan. >> you say trust with a counterpart that you don't trust. it said that personal level. when rob talks about five stages for these it's because the understanding is that it would be 10 at a time but we also understand under the deal that's being discussed right now, that it would be three palestinians being released, three palestinian prisoners for each palestinian released from hamas. >> there's precedent for this. in prisoner exchange with hamas in israel, there has been a ratio, and this is less a ratio than we've seen in the past, so

that helps people's perceptions as to what they might do and it has to be met. >> both of you thank you very much, as we await possible news here, any moment, of this vote. which literally could come at any moment. it has been a bit delayed. next, as our breaking news continues, we are getting new details about how the u.s. understanding of some of the details in the negotiations, we also this hour, have a ruling tonight in george's election coverage of her social media post like this. >> it's in emoji of or fecal matter emoji. >> that's not from trump. and more companies my distancing themselves from elon musk after he endorsed and anti- semitic post. that's a special report tonight.

breaking news, we are waiting at any moment, israel's cabinet wrapping up what is now a sixth hour of debate on a potential deal to release hostages with a vote. the president said he worked on

it intensively for weeks and alex is out front with more. this has obviously been in progress for quite some time but now we are here on the cusp, possibly of something actually happening. what details are you learning about how involved the u.s. has been and how effective and importan t that involvement has been? >> they've been involved since the hostages were taken back on october 7th, and that is because they have a lot at stake here, some 10 american citizens who are still missing, believed to be held hostage by hamas, including that three- year-old, whose cousin you were speaking with, abigail, she is turning four on friday, there is of course a hope and

expectation that she would be among the 50 hostages who we believe are set to be released in the coming days but the u.s. has had a major role because they also have leverage with all of the players involved, they speak with all of the players involved, israel, qatar, egypt. the u.s. does not engage directly with hamas. that is essentially why qatar has been deputized by the u.s. to leave that conversation but the u.s. has a lot of power there. and so what we've seen over the port test my course of the last few weeks are the most senior members of the biden administration spending hour after hour day after day on this issue. the top official for the white house, just got back from a trip to the region that lasted more than a week. we've also seen the director of the cia have an absolutely pivotal role in engaging with his counterpart in israel, and president biden himself, we are told by the white house earlier today, john kirby saying that the president would ask for multiple updates every day, jumping in on a personal level, as he felt it was appropriate. and we also heard mr. benjamin

netanyahu, personally thanking president biden for essentially working out a better deal for israel. so we do expect that u.s. engagement to continue, as they continue to try to get more hostages out of gaza. >> if this does happen of course, it's 50, and there are at least 230 still there. so it is a minority of who is still being held hostage. thank you very much. i want to go to daniel ipswich. you and i last spoke in tel aviv, it was after your grandmother was released, she had been taken hostage, your grandfather is still being held and i know tonight, you don't expect for any reason he would be a part of this and obviously, he's old, he's ill, but we understand this is just for women and children. how do you process that? >> so first of all, i don't want to speculate on who's going, but obviously that is the deal. and for me, personally, i feel

every hostage that will be released as a part of my family now. of course, i am coming from kibbutz where one of every four were taken. if 2 million people in new york were kidnapped or murdered, what would you do? you would fight for that everyday. i still have 75 family members from my family being held as a hostage. so, every hostage coming out, will be a family member going out because also i met such amazing people in my tours, so i would feel so good if the hostages were to come back. >> how is your grandmother doing? and even processing this, that this is happening. knowing your grandfather may not be among this group but he is still there.

how is she handling it? >> first of all, i'm already here for a week, i've been in america for a week, going from texas to new york -- >> meeting with evangelical churches. >> meeting with senators, so many people. when i left, i know my grandmother was in a very good physical condition already, she recovered physically, and mentally, she is very worried about the hostages and my grandfather. so i think the news would be amazing for her, and i'm looking forward to coming back and see what she is saying. >> you know what it's like to have a family member released and you know what it's like to still have somebody missing. you are in this, the twix in between. is there anything that you could say to people who may be about to be given a moment of

unbelievable and unexpected joy and yet the person who is coming home is a person who has been through horrific things. horrific trauma? what can you say to those families who may be about to walk in your shoes? >> feel them. ask them what they feel, let them speak, if they want to speak. let them be quiet if they want to be quiet, and before that, i wish all the families of the hostages that will be released to have this amazing feeling of the family member crossing from the gaza strip to israel, crossing that border, having that relief, and for the other families, i promise, personally, so that i would

fight for my grandfather, and keep fighting for all the hostages because somehow, i feel like the world got mad. we have peace activists, civilians, babies, and elderly, they are in gaza, and some reports, some un meetings, that's not the first topic every day. and all of us, we have to feel that those hostages are part of their family. and it's unimaginable to think 83 years old, man, migrant father, the greatest peace activists in the world is held hostage in gaza. so i'm really calling now thanksgiving is even coming, put another chair for a hostage at home. think about them. that is the best activity you

can do, the best act you can do is have another hostage to be in your heart. to think about him, because there are so many hostages, let's pick one, fill it personal, make it happen. bring them home. the best filling would be, to concentrate on one hostage and suddenly, they are coming home. that's how we will bring home all of them. >> we hope that there will be the beginning of some more possibly good news. daniel, thank you very much. >> good to see you. >> and next, trump going tonight after the new york attorney general and the judge in his business fraud case, as one of his georgia codefendants was in court today defending his own insulting posts on

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find your passion and create your future at contra costa college. start today at contracosta.edu tonight, a surprising ruling for a trump codefendant. it could have significant implications for trump himself. a judge actually refused to revoke bond for harrison floyd. harrison floyd is the head of black voices for trump. he's accused of intimidating codefendants and witnesses with his social media post. sound familiar? of course it does, and fulton county district attorney fanny willis is appearing in court.

here's an investigator reading in court, a tweet from floyd, this is what floyd wrote about the georgia secretary of state and a top election official. both are republicans who stood up against trump's election lies. >> the content is as follows, black american democrats want the black trump guy to tell on the racist white republicans but only if it's president trump lol, look, the truth is that, at gabriel stirling, are the pieces of and it's a -- >> can you spell the word. >> yes, it's an emoji of or fecal matter emoji. they are the pieces of that emoji, that you should be mad at. >> all right, i want to go to evan perez, he's been following this all day. and i'm saying, go straight after these pieces of you know

what, the similarities cannot be overstated but it appears that the bar now is very high to prove that someone intimidated or threatened witnesses through social media post. >> look what you saw from scott mcafee today, the judge in this case, aaron, it's an example of how far judges are going to bend over backwards to try to accommodate defendants who do have a right to criticize the prosecution of course, they have a right to feed -- free speech and they have a right to shut them down. the da was seeking to have his bail revoked for him to go back to jail because of the violation of the terms of his release and with the judge said was that this was a technical violation, and he said what he wanted instead, was for some adjustments to be made for the release terms. here she is arguing strenuously

for him to be sent back to jail. >> he was given an opportunity to cooperate with the rules of this case and what he did was spit on the court and refuse to oblige by three of the seven conditions of this order. >> and what you are seeing there, certainly from what the judge did in atlanta today, aaron, is also what you are seeing a little bit from the appeals court. we watch this yesterday, where there was a great reluctance to really shut down the former president, and his freedom of speech but also, understanding that you need to protect witnesses, you need to protect witnesses from intimidation and you want to protect the trial, which is coming up. >> evan, thank you very much. i want to go to ryan goodman now. on its face, it looks like it could be a victory for trump if it's okay for the sky to do this, does that set the

standard for what is witness intimidation or threats, so on that, i want to play one other important thing that appear to happen in court today. here it is. >> i think it also is very much dependent on the specific facts of the tweets and communications at issue here. and it can't be so broadly defined to cover all other codefendants. so on the issue of modification, i think that is something that we can revisit and let time to consider unless there is something the parties would like to address now. >> okay, so, can't be so broadly defined as to cover all other codefendants. what do you read into this? >> i thought the judges cadence signaled something, he nearly swallows his words, i think that is trump. trump is very present in the room but not mentioned as much, he's the often in the room. and i think that's maybe why

the judge was so forgiving on where he draws the line on intimidation because if he draws the line on this particular defendant that he's drawing the same line against donald trump. so i do think judges are bending over backwards -- >> there doing everyone a longer lease? >> that's right, i think mr. floyd might have been defended from this. >> this is change the line for trump, the things that he says now will be fine? >> the trump eagle team is going to look closely at what the judge said today. he did say some words about what he thinks is the line of intimidation. he said it wasn't crossed here because he didn't post personal information about these individuals and then he said, mr. floyd didn't say what should happen to them. trump has said what should happen to chairman millie and the idea that he should be executed, if trump were to say those kinds of things and that

is intimidation in the courtroom. >> trump just attacked the new york attorney general and the judge. he does this all the time. moments ago, he went after the law clerk again, and as he went on, he referred to the trump hating judge, seething with anger law clerk, refers to rigged trial, goes on and on, so based on today's ruling, is that all fine? >> unfortunately it seems like it might be fine. it does really raise the threat level against these individuals and he's engaging in degrading statements about the law clerk in particular. i can only assume that the death threats against her spike when he says things like this and what the judge said as you can see degrading statements but they are not necessarily intimidating. >> and just to state the audience for anyone watching,

just to speak like that, it's unconscionable, and it's sad that that is going to be perceived as fine. all right, thank you. and next, the u.s. government giving elon musk $1.2 billion after the white house condemned him for spreading anti-semitic messages.

tonight, donald trump keeping praise on house speaker johnson just hours after johnson came to see him at mar- a-lago. he said, quote, mike johnson's courage will vindicate hundreds of j6 prisoners. referring to his decision to release footage from january 6th. this is the same footage that tucker carlson aired to downplay the insurrection. this likens abortion to the holocaust. >> it is truly an american holocaust, the reality is that planned parenthood and all these big abortions, they set up their clinics in inner cities. they are, you know, they regard these people as easy prey. i mean it's true, this is what's happening across the

country now. >> andrew joins me now. what else have you found, you have looked through hundreds of hours? >> the new house speaker is unknown to a lot of people. he was selected pretty much overnight, there was no vetting process, he doesn't even come from a competitive districts and he's never really had a real race. so we went through hundreds of his interviews, radio, television op-ed, to see, what does mike johnson really believe and one of the most interesting things that we found was on the day that roe v wade was struck down, he called into a conservative talk radio show and the second biggest piece of news that day, besides roe was clarence thomas's concurring opinion where he said we should revisit the rulings that struck down, that allowed same-sex marriage,

contraception's, that was an opinion that was so far out there that even the very conservative supreme court wasn't willing to go along with it. but johnson, actually very, very strongly endorses this opinion from thomas, he defends it. take a listen to him right here on that day. >> there's been some really bad law made, they made a mess of our jurisprudence, the last several decades and maybe some of that needs to be cleaned up. what justice thomas is calling for is not radical, in fact the opposite of that. >> we should note his office told us that he views those cases as settled law but we did find another instance in our story, in 2015, where it's during the presidential election and he actually says the new president can appoint justices that might overturn same-sex marriage. >> and we know, what people say is settled law is not necessarily what they think of the law. he has a history of anti-

rhetoric. supporting anti-gay policies, clearly doing so and you found out more about his personal views? >> homosexuality was something that johnson talked about a lot over the years, called it, inherently unnatural. he said it was eight dangerous lifestyle. we found a clip where he supported a ban on adoptions where he said that homosexuality was a behavior and because of that, it wasn't protected from antidiscrimination laws, and that sort of goes into this next clip that i want to play which is, him discussing what he thinks the proper role of government is. listen to what he said here. >> one of the primary purposes of the law is to restrain evil. we have to a knowledge that man is inherently evil and needs to be restrained. that's the problem with the radical left, they don't acknowledge a god. >> we also found johnson saying

that he supported -- he backed a louisiana abortion band that did not have exceptions for . >> thank you very much. and it's important to find all of this. it's a crucial person in the u.s. government so thank you. next, more companies my pulling ad dollars from elon musk and x but the u.s. government forking out billions to musk even after he endorsed an anti-semitic post. and new pictures of what north korea claims is a successful launch of a spy satellite e tonight.t.

tonight the nfl is stirkcki with elon musk. the league condemning about hate speech. they all pulled ads from x. one client that has not stopped working hand in hand with elon musk is one of his most

important, the u.s. government. kristin fisher is "out front." >> reporter: the pentagon is getting in deeper with elon musk. >> space force. >> reporter: giving musk's private space company, spacex, a contract for up to $1.2 billion to send secretive spy satellites into space, but that's not all. the pentagon is also investing up to $70 million in star shield, a more secure version of spacex's star link satellites which are vital to the ukraine military success against russia on the battlefield. >> i can confirm that we do contract for star link for services in support of ukraine with the ultimate objective to be ensuring that ukraine has the satellite communication infrastructure that it needs. >> and nasa couldn't send another astronaut to the moon without elon musk's company.

musk's starship is the most powerful rocketship ever built. nasa will spend $4 billion on it because it will be the lunar lander of the space agency's flagship artemis program. it's the only chance to beat china to the moon. >> go dragon. go falcon. >> reporter: nasa is relying on this to launch to the space station. no other government can do it. >> spacex is on top because they have done the best. >> reporter: doug lavere is one official who is most dependent on elon musk's companies and he describes nasa as being much more reliant on spacex than the point gone. while the u.s. does have other

partners, spacex has been dependable in a dangerous business which is why they work with musk which the white house has condemned for is spreading anti semitic images. spacex was responsible for 61 of the 78 successful launches. that's the same number as the chinese government and nearly eight times the number of spacex's closest competitor, the united launch alliance, a joint venture between boeing and lockheed martin. this year spacex has surpassed that with 85 orbital launches and counting. for now the u.s. government's access to space is overwhelmingly tied to spacex. a white house spokesperson said he's not, quote, aware of any efforts to change that. >> there's information in the private sector that we would be foolish to walk away from. i'm not aware of any specific efforts to address -- to address our concerns over his rhetoric,

but that doesn't mean that we accept or agree with or condone in any way that anti-semetic rhetoric that he pushed. >> reporter: now cnn has reached out to spacex. so far, no comment. as for nasa, it has had plans in place for years to try to reduce its dependency on one company. you have boeing starliner spacecraft designed to carry astronauts to the space station next year. blue origin has a lunar lander alternative but the problem is neither of those options are ready yet. erin? >> kristin, thank you very much. harry andon joins us to go beyond the number. it's amazing what kristin is reporting. when you look at apple, ibm, disney, warner brothers, all of these people pulling ads, does this hurt x's bottom line? >> it absolutely does, erin.

if you look at the ad revenue they pulled in in 2022, you look at what's projected in 2023, it's dropped in half. it's dropped in half. they're still making $2 billion in ad revenue but significantly less than the $4.1 billion. >> 50% drop is horrible. horrible performance. >> yeah. you know stocks better than i do. >> it's horrible. it's unacceptable. who is using x? you talk about advertisers coming off. has there been a shift since elon musk took over? >> democrats are leaving the platform. republicans have been joining the platform. now it's basically even in terms of the percentage of democrats and republicans who are regular users for twitter getting their

news, but here's the thing i will point out, which is that fewer people are readily getting their news on twitter. right now if you compare where we are now compared to -- >> you want be to say something? >> i want to make one point. half democrat, half republican, that's a win, that's why i did it. has it hurt his bottom line? >> no, it hasn't hurt his bottom line. that's not where he makes most of his money in x or twitter. he makes it in tesla. the amount of money he has, he's now -- his net worth is $200 billion. that is up from $170 billion last year. >> so he'll look at this and say i'm richer. half democrat, half republican and he sees it possibly as a win? >> yeah. >> all right. thank you very much, harry. >> thank you. next north kororea says it s put t a a spy y satellite e int. we'll l explain whwhy.

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