♪ ♪ ♪ can mick jagger still start

it up without spurning a hip? well, 2024 will help us find out. the stones, that are back on the road in north america to support their latest album. it is their first stateside tour since 2021, and the tour is sponsored by, you guessed, it the arp. thank you for watching news not. laura coates live starts right now. laura? i'm not sure i could do that without breaking a hip, but you know. >> i don't know about you, but i have that moves like jagger. >> i believe, you i believe. you >> i do. object want you to come to i'm, apricots the rolling fans see the shade -- rolling stones, i don't know what you guys do. >> that was eddie phillip, and i'm laura coates. >> no shade to throw. >> nice to see you, heavy philippe. >> you, too. >> our breaking news. a deal to release some of the

hostages, but who and when will they be home? and at what price? tonight, on laura coates live. ♪ ♪ ♪ can you even begin to imagine how agonizing it has been for the families of the hostages that were taken on october 7th? and it's paid 45 days, 45 days, 45 days of not knowing where they are, how they are, and whether they will ever, ever see them again. now, with the entire world watching and waiting, israel has signed off on that deal to release some of the estimated 240 people being held hostage. the deal would free at least 50 women and children. sources telling cnn there are as many as 40 children in the group. there will be a four-day pause and five, sick with an extra day to be added for age ten

additional hostages. three palestinian prisoners will be released for every single hostage, and the red cross will get access to hostages that are still in gaza. now barack revealed, one of the best and informed correspondents on the story, we'll be here in a moment. he says israeli officials tell him the pause in fighting will start when i child cross the border back into israel. but even with this news tonight, the wait for these families is not over. , now there is also legally mandated 24 hour waiting period to allow israelis to appeal that decision to the country's supreme court. but even then, the way it will not be over. all of these 50 or so hostages are not expected to be released at once on a single day. instead, it will be staggered. maybe day by day. and the families won't learn, shortly before it happens, whether their loved one will be released soon after.

imagine what it would be like for them. when every day, waiting for your loved one, your child's name, to come up. imagine what it's like for the family of nearly four year old abigail, senior u.s. officials say she could soon be released. along with two american woman. >> you know, when i think about it on friday, it's abigail's fourth birthday. and she should be home with her family and with her sister and brother. [crying] and she isn't right now. >> i don't know how these families are able to even put one foot in front of the other these days, but their focus has remained on their goal. bring their loved ones home. loved ones like 13-year-old ali. >> regarding all the deals being made, i'm trying not to follow it and not to rely on them, so that i don't develop a hope that i then lose. and the only thing i am waiting

for is the phone call from my daughter, who will say, i'm coming back. and then i'll know that it's really over. and i can breathe a sigh of relief and say, that's it. it's over. >> not wanting to hope. like the family of 12 year old errors and his 16-year-old sister sahara along with their father. >> i feel like, that one thing we should all be able to agree on, is that children are not a part of war. and if we're able to get them home, as soon as possible, that's a good thing for all of us. >> the israeli government says it would be prepared to extend the deal, if hamas it is prepared to release more hostages. after all, there are an estimated 200 people who were not included in this initial deal. so what about them? are they still alive? how are they being cared for? when will they come home?

really, what's going to happen next? let's go to cnn's chief global efforts correspondent, matthew chance. he is in tel aviv. matthew, this is extraordinary news tonight. people have been waiting for this moment to happen. the cabinet has a proof of this hostage deal. so what do we know about that details and what's going to happen next? >> reporter: it's a good question. we have got that legally mandated pause to allow for appeals against this deal. at the supreme court. it's not likely to be an obstacle, but it is legal hurdle that has to be overcome. and, so, we're expecting the first of the hostages to be released on thursday, local time. so in about 24 hours, just under 24 hours from now. but we're speculating a, bit because there is no timeframe given. i can tell you, listening to some of the relatives of the loved ones of the people being held in gaza, oh day i've been

speaking to members of families, here in tel aviv, who've got family members inside gaza. and there is mixed feelings among them. about this deal. on that one side, i met a woman, i think it was the mother of the grandmother whose sense but you showed fear. and she was very optimistic, actually, at this point that perhaps her 13-year-old daughter, who's being hailed as a hostage inside gaza would be released. she was very upbeat about the prospect for that, given this deal. but other people i spoke to were much less so, much more upset. one woman from kibbutz be'eri was despondent. she said, look, she's happy for those people. they're going to be included in the steel. but her nephew is a 38-year-old man. not in the army, nothing like that. he was just abducted from his

kibbutz. and there is very little chance, at this point, of him being released. and of course, as you mentioned, there are about 200 people who are not going to be included in this hostage deal. and that's one of the reasons, laura, like to win this deal for the israelis has been so controversial. they are concerned that the polls in the fighting could allow hamas to rebuild and to, kind of, gain picks up military initiative. but more than anything else, it's about all the people that lived behind. and it's really hard for israelis to grapple. >> this deal, as you are talking, it occurs to so many people that this requires the israeli government to trust that the remaining hostages are alive and well. but they can't just take their word for it. we're learning, this deal does include red cross visits to hostages who are still captive and gaza. what more can you tell us about that?

>> reporter: first of all, i think that's a major, major concession by hamas. and a major gain for the israelis. that they have managed to negotiate this clause, if you like, in which the red cross, the icrc, will be able to get into the gaza strip and actually access the hostages that are still there and on an ongoing basis. that's going to give the israeli government and, of course, families in israel a bit more clarity about whether their loved ones are still surviving. because, the speaker of 246 is the fact that bandied around about the number of hostages being held by hamas and other militant groups inside gaza. we don't know, nobody knows, what their condition is. whether they are dead or alive. some of them, we know or did. but, authors, we are not sure about. so the icrc will be able to give the families and all of us some clarity on that. >> you've got to wonder,

matthew, why would hamas agree to know when the location, or alerting them to the location of the hostages, and the concession being made. it's one question i think is looming over all of this. but thank goodness there are at least some people coming home. matthew chance, thank you so much. i want to bring an extremist political and foreign policy reporter and middle east expert, barak ravid, i'm so glad that you're here. you've heard that news. israel has agreed to this deal. but the big question, of course, is what people think about. it number one. and, when will i hostages be released? do you know when the first will be able to go home? >> goodnight. i think we are starting to get more and more clarity about this question. and this comes from a statement that the government of qatar issued just a few minutes ago. and they said, sometime in the

next 24 hours, the, the government of qatar, the mediators, are going to announce went the pause in fighting is going to start. it's going to start sometime on thursday. and it is going to start, again, when i hostages come back from gaza to israel. so i think we are really looking at something between 24 to 36 hours before this thing will start to be implemented. before we will see the buses coming out of israeli prisons with hundred and 50 palestinian person errors and whether we see that red cross bringing those israeli hostages to the border with egypt. and from there to israel. but, this is going to be a very sensitive and difficult and complex process. because it's not going to happen all at once. it's going to be direct out

over four days. entering those four days, things can go wrong. >> barak, when you are mentioning the exchange part, many people haven't been talking about this aspect of, it because there are expected to be 150 palestinian prisoners who will be released as well. do we know anything about those prisoners, that women and children among them? do we know more about what these particular prisoners have been chosen or what they were in israel for? >> i think most of them were chosen because they were just there. hamas knew that, for women and children, it can only ask for palestinian woman and palestinian minors in israeli prisons. there are something like 400 to 450 of those. and in this deal, at least in phase one, 150 of them are going to be released. most of them are people that did not kill israelis. but we're involved in the

attacks. trying to step a soldier or a policeman, throw at molotov cocktail. that's just an example. there are many others. it's a case by case issue. but i think, the recent, the next few hours will know the identity of those people. because the israeli government has to announce it. according to law. >> and when will we know the names of the hostages of the israelis potpourri turned? i'm assuming they will all be a variety of different national identities that are coming, but do we know the names of those hostages as well? >> i think we don't know them either after they will be released, or very very close to the time of the rallies. the process is, every evening, from the point when the pause will start, hamas will transfer to israel that names of the people who are going to be released that next day. and you are going to pass this thing to israeli negotiators

who are people who work in the government. and i don't know if they're going to announce those names ahead of time. to tell the families, it's pretty unclear. and again, i'm not even sure that by now there is total clarity about who those people are. i mean, we know who are the kids that are missing, but we are not sure who are the kids that hamas is holding and who they're going to release as part of this deal. >> it's unimaginable to think about this happening, and being a parent or a loved one waiting to see if this name is coming up -- >> laura, i'll tell you something which is even more unimaginable. some of those kids are there, and gaza, with their father. okay? because their mother was murdered in the october 7th attack. and their father is not going to be released. they are going to come back to

israel, to the family that they have left. but their father is going to stay in gaza. we are going to see in the next few days a combination, almost, this crazy combination between happiness and tragedy. and each of those people whose going to pit released is such a tragic story, that autumn even know how we can tell it. >> and then what? barak ravid, think you so much. unbelievable. >> thank you, goodnight. >> good not. with us now, morant alone a. both of his sister, his brother-in-law, and three young nieces were kidnapped from your kibbutz on october 7th. finally, there is work that israel has agreed to a deal to exchange hostages. you've hurt this. 50 women and children with the possibility of more. five of your six family members

our women and children. how are you feeling tonight? have you heard anything from the government, specifically? >> no, we haven't heard anything yet. we were getting our knowledge from that news. mostly. and how do i feel about it? first of all, is barak mentioned, we don't know who the children that architect released. and so, giving half, we don't know who's getting released, and we don't know when, it feels like they're playing roulette with our emotions and with our lives. it is unfavorable to think about a situation where another hostage, another child, is

getting released. how would we feel if it's not our child? >> it's a difficult thing to think about. >> the horrible feeling to feel, exactly. and so, i think that until we don't have our family by our side, it will just continue the same for us. and in addition to that, you mentioned five out of six. my brother in law, there, the father -- and husband of my sister -- . this hole in our family will not be able to close until he is getting back. and no one says, when the rest are getting released. and so, again, it feels like a very cynical use of people and peoples lives, to gain and

advantage by these murderers. ogden have any other way to see it. >> what do you think of the decision by the government in israel to agree to these terms? >> i want to believe that if the government came to agree on that, given that they were arthurdale's that they were not, that i did not accept, as far as i understand, i want to believe that is a good deal for now. it's an opportunity. and eventually, it's an opportunity to bring the children home. and i think that the children are the most important part of it. because they don't have the tools to handle a situation there in at the moment. the grown-ups, i think, and

maybe hold on longer, but i don't think there is a single mother or father there, that will say, that they refused to release the children. to say, first of all, really smuggled run. and so, i want to believe that is a good deal, given the current situation. >> i can imagine, even those who are not parents, who will see a child and say, free them first. just know when the gravity of what's going on. moran alony, we will be thinking of you. it's unimaginable. i keep saying it. that's the word i keep thinking about, because it's so different to even know what's next. and it's been 45 days of the agony your family has had to endure and so many others. we are thinking of you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> when we come back, he has

negotiated hundreds of hostage situations. and i'm going to ask him, what he thinks will happen next with this very deal.

[inaudible] president biden is putting out a statement moments ago on the deal to release the hostages in costs are. he writes, quote, as president, i have no higher priority than ensuring the safety of americans held hostage around the world. that is why, from the earliest moment of hamas's brutal assault, by national security team and i have worked closely with regional partners to do everything possible to secure the release of our fellow citizens. we saw the first results of that effort late october when two americans were reunited with their loved ones. today's deal show to home additional american hostages and i will not stop until they

are all released. questions still looms over how this deal will be implemented and how many hostages are being left behind. here tonight to discuss, former navy seal commander and coordinator of the hostage working group for the u.s. embassy in iraq, daniel o'shea. so glad you are here this evening. i have so many questions, one of them is, why would israel and hamas agreed to this particular negotiation? on the one hand, it allows for a greater number of palestinian prisoners to be released than israeli hostages. it also allows red cross to see the location of the hostages, which of course leaves hamas more vulnerable to a future attack. are you surprised by this deal? >> now, it is why hamas took these hostages in the first place. they knew they would be a bargaining chip and they would need that. they know the idf would respond and it would be overwhelming

and they both the response to date has brought hamas to their knees and the idf from international pressure from -- throughout the world, including the u.s. in particular, the u.s. administration putting pressure on netanyahu for the cease-fire to get hostages back, specifically the americans, but ultimately children -- 200 hostages, many countries represented, there has been tremendous pressure on netanyahu and his government to get this hostage situation resolved, which is why they were taken in the first place by hamas. >> you have negotiated hundreds of hostage deals with hamas, it all comes down to trust, as they all would in hostage negotiations. can you trust that this is a done deal? are there some guardrails in place to assure, what can be done? >> the challenges, we didn't have a negotiated settlement across the table. hamas and israel did not sit across the table. this negotiation was done

through third-party intermediaries. u.s. officials, diplomats from around the world, shakes, ngos like the red cross, the red crescent, and networks upwards into the qatari farrelly that has been instrumental in this ongoing process. again, qatar has become the switzerland of the middle east in this, but this deal could go pair shaped overnight and all this media exposure and the emphasis about a president making statements raises the stakes that anything could go wrong. i am -- i get with over -- in iraq, and i can count on one hand the number of successful endings we had. so, i don't believe anything will happen until it happens, for real. so, we are still far away from -- pulling this off and anything could go wrong, friendly fire incidents, a false viral news report. it is very tenuous, so i am being very cautious at this point until the actual hostages start coming home safely. >> well, i certainly will hold

my breath the way you described that and just thinking about what could possibly go wrong, but also there is this very real concern that there are additional hostages that will still remain and be left behind, at least temporarily. israel also said at the air and ground attack will continue once the hostage release concludes. so, will a significant pause make that harder? >> well, again, hamas will have a chance to retrograde, they will pull back, retreat, probably resupply, they have been out of communications, from what we understand -- there is no media, cell phone, wi-fi, so it will give hamas a chance to regroup, which is why they were striving for the cease-fire and why the agreed to those terms. but again, the idf -- they are under tremendous pressure and this thing will be dragging out. so, we can foresee another stalemate in another day, a week or two, maybe longer, for

another hostage exchange. there are 200 plus hostages being left behind, so this hostage process could be dragged out for weeks in the coming months ahead. >> i would assume that the government would want to interview and debrief the hostages that are returning, obviously, if many are children, a bit more of a difficult process to do. but how might the information that they could possibly provide be helpful in getting the others home or even aiding in the ground offensive? >> well, i don't think it will aid in the ground offensive, but it certainly will give idf planners and others -- you know, they would love to do hostage rescue mission within the idf, but no more challenging environment than the densely packed region of gaza. we presume that most hostages are being held in the tunnel system and channeling your forces into a tunnels underground would be the absolute worst-case scenario for a hostage rescue mission. there will be intelligence

coming out in terms of the conditions they are in, but there won't be a lot of intelligence, per se, for the idf in terms of their ground campaign. again, hostage rescue in this scenario will be very challenging, even with -- that may come out of this intelligence including the fact that the red cross will not have the chance to go visit these hostages. again, both sides have to make concessions to get this deal realized. >> and as you suggest, the idea of visiting the sausages will get more information about the condition, where they are, the likelihood to get them back. daniel o'shea, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> it took a complicated web of negotiations, to say the least, to get here, including on the part of the united states. so, what went into the talks to get to where we are now? we will go there, nenext. ♪ ♪ ♪

[inaudible] a deal to free at least 50 hostages held by hamas has now been struck, tonight. it was the result of weeks of hard negotiations between israel, hamas, and the u.s. with qatar playing a major mediating role.

according to cnn, the deal began to come together to a breakthrough sometime last week, with leaders of the u.s. and israel agreeing to the contours of the deal in order to free 15 women and children in hamas captivity. the deal nearly sank when qatar briefly lost contact with hamas, which was furious over the idf raid on al-shifa hospital. once talks restarted, biden made clear to the qatari leader this time it was time to make a deal. soon after the outline was passed back and forth between israel and hamas through qatar getting all parties then to get on board. joining me now to discuss is former deputy secretary of state of affairs, joel reuben. he is also running for congress in maryland. joel, so good to see you tonight. thank you. i mean, emotions are running very high. they have been for 45 days at the very least. it must be very difficult to strike a deal in a negotiation with all the nuance, all the opinion, and all the emotion.

>> it is and credible moment of complexity, as you point out, emotion. these are real human beings, these are real families that are going to be some in euphoria and some in deep despair. what we are looking at is a military pause that also impacts the battlefield that israelis are deeply concerned about what is taking place in gaza, and what that will mean for their future. so, all of this is coming together that at the end of the day, getting people out of harm's way is one of the primary objectives of the military response by israel to hamas's invasion of southern israel. this is an achievable milestone. it looks like it will go forward, but it is certainly just the beginning of the end. really, it is not truly ending the nightmare that we are watching. >> it is pretty clear that president biden had a hand and

this. netanyahu gave credit, speaking about that very aspect of it. we are learning three americans could be part of the release, as well. how significant is that? >> while, it appears there are ten americans overall, and any american getting out now would be crucial for president biden to demonstrate that his leadership, which has been a strong throughout its -- it is worth mentioning, he has been working the phones throughout this process, sending his team out there, cia director bill burns, humanitarian assistance coordinator david satterfield, that is also part of this deal. it is crucial to show that his leadership is delivering results for the american people, and this is part of it. hopefully, these americans will come home. >> for many people, they are remembering back in 2011 when there was an israeli soldier exchanged for 1000 palestinians. here, it seems to be a 1 to 3 ratio, in terms of hostages to palestinians. there was criticism about that

particular deal in the past, looking back obviously in hindsight, which is a luxury, when you look at the contours of this deal, how do you feel about it? >> you know, it is a horror bowl moment to think that hamas intentionally kidnapped civilians from israel for this exact purpose. what hamas is doing right now is suing for a pause. they took these people out of their homes in order to use them as bartering chips to reduce the pressure on them that they knew israel would execute through eight military onslaught. at the same time, these people must come home. so, it is bittersweet -- the israeli soldier, when he was returned and exchange for over 1000 fighters, it was bittersweet but a moment of rejoice. because in israel and judaism, every individual is the

universe. so, every individual matters. and that, at the end of the day, is the ethical difference between israel and hamas. what israel is doing is retrieving their people who are in harm's way, understanding there is a risk, but it is worth that risk. >> well, there are sadly going to be 200 or more others who are behind and wondering what will happen with them, next. red cross will have a chance to see the condition of hostages. really important conversation and what will come next, even more important. thank you so much. >> thanks laura. >> joel rubin, everyone. these hostages have been held in gaza for more than six weeks. my question is, what will their readjustment be like? as someone who knows that very well, jason rezaian, held prisoner in iran for 18 months, is my guest t next.

50 of the hostages held by hamas could soon be coming home. but what comes next for those who've suffered the horrific kidnapping and entered kept 54 over six weeks?

i want to bring in someone who knows all too well what it's like to be held hostage. washington post journalist, jason rezaian. he was imprisoned for 544 days in tehran, after being detained there back in 2018. hayes now a global opinions writer for the washington post and author of the book, prisoner. jason i'm so glad you are here. you must be thinking all sorts of things as you watch the hostage situation and places like gaza and beyond. you have said in the past, that you remains the jayland and nervous during that waiting period before the release of any hostages. bloodless boards? >> so many things can still go wrong until someone is released and back in the arms of their loved ones. every time you hear about one of these stories, we just get the most cursory details of what actually went into releasing these people.

oftentimes, it's months, weeks, sometimes years of negotiations. and then in the final hours, those things can fall apart. and in this situation, not only are the hundreds of people involved, small children, elderly, there are also people of 40 different nationalities. and there is a war raging on above the ground where they're being held. so a lot of things can still go sideways. i hope that everybody comes out safely. and that this is the end of their nightmare, of their families nightmares. but the road ahead is still so fraught and vulnerable. >> the idea of false hopes that might be even used against people as a psychological tool, as well, to talk to someone, to make them believe they have a chance. that alone, the internal hope, that everyone will have, that they will be free. you were wrongfully imprisoned for an agonizing --

18 months. watch it right now, the moment it will return with your family, falling on your knees. walk us through it. you said the road ahead can still be fraught. walk us through what happens, when you were freed from captivity. but assume there is kind of a traditional period, maybe a debriefing, examinations of some type. or are you just allowed to go home to your family and remain with them immediately? >> laura, it's a really good question. and i think it's different in every case. from one country to the next. u.s. government offers specialized care after the release. some people take the government up on it. some people don't. i did. i spent about five days at -- that medical facility, in germany, frankly looking back, i wish i had stayed a few days longer. your raring to go. you want to get back into the world. you want to see the people you

had been missing. but you are not ready for it. you have the -- been conditioned to be in captivity. and it takes a long time to get used to freedom again. and i think, when people who haven't been through it here that, i think, that sounds sort of odd. it is on. the whole experience is not like anything that we are raised and educated and eva are ready for. so once you have that experience, and just the process of mentally slowing down all of your shoulders kind of easing, the tension, the elevated tension has persisted, constantly. waking hours and sleeping hours, for so long. it's not something that's crazy to describe. and it's not something easy to get over. >> according to multiple sources, three palestinian prisoners in israel would be afraid for every civilian

hostage that is released. that to limit countries often face an order to achieve a resolution is whether to achieve that, whether to make the deal or to leave people behind. is this deal unavoidable in order to bring in a sense of millions home? that ratio of palestinian lives to those with the hostages? what do you make of it? >> the reality is, laura, until there are more effective deterrence mechanisms in place, governments are going to have to make this hard decisions. i say that you have to decide to free you're innocent civilians, especially in a case like this with so many of them being children. it is really not that difficult a choice when you think about it in those terms. do those people deserve to be held in a prolonged way, and potentially die in captivity? we were reunited with their loved ones? and i understand, these are hard choices for any government to make.

adrian put a lot of stock into the argument that making these deals encourages more hostage taking. what encourages more hostage taking is there is nothing standing in the hostage takers way at the moment. so, i think, for the time being, we're going to see more of these deals, whether it's in this situation in gaza, whether it's with iran, russia, china, venezuela, and a host of other countries that do this including friends of ours like saudi arabia, egypt, turkey. but ultimately, we have to be thinking about what is it that we were going to do to make this behavioral costly or, and beneficial to those who take part in it. and i think what we'll see, see the phenomenon continue until those deterrence mechanisms aren't really in place and the effects are being felt. >> jason rezaian, think you for being willing to share your story.

just given the context and your personal experience and journey is so powerful, even to the state to think about what you've been through and what the road might be ahead for so many others tonight. thank you so much. >> thank you, laura. there is a major hearing in the georgia election interference case over whether to revoke the bond for this man, defendant harrison ford. and fulton county d.a. fani willis showed up to personally argue the case. i'll tell you what happens, next.

he's accused of attempting

to target witnesses on social media posts and in other comments. that's not donald trump, it's his co-defendant in the fulton county election racketeering case. harrison floyd, that's his name. and the judge today declined to trail him but set his bond agreement should be modified now to include more specific restrictions. which did not sit well with dea fani willis. >> it was given an opportunity to cooperate with the rules of his. case and what he'll be doing -- and refused to oblige by that conditions. we are really here to decide today, does this order mean something or not. but he doesn't give and, oh i'm sorry, after i'm already intimidated the witnesses in this case. it's too late. >> the judge called it a technical violation, going on to say, quote, not every violation compels verification. we'll be watching that case. and thank you all for watching. our live coverage continues in

just a moment.

hello, and welcome. i'm paula newton in new york with our coverage of the war between israel and hamas. we begin this hour with breaking news out of israel. we were at the cabinet has approved a deal to release at least 50 hostages held by hamas in gaza. the government overwhelmingly back that deal after a six hour long cabinet making that one official said grew tense and at times was emotional. the hostages to be afraid are