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hello, i'm boris sanchez in washington, alongside wolf blitzer in tel aviv, israel. in just 11 hours when the clock strikes midnight in the united states, the fighting will stop. at least that's the new plan for the temporary truce between israel and hamas after a one-day delay. the pause will be followed by the first group of hostages released by hamas. this morning, the qatari government laid out an updated framework. listen. >> the beginning of the pause will be 7:00 a.m. friday. the 24th of november. and it will last as agreed for four days. and the first batch of civilians to be released will be around 4:00 p.m. on the same day. they will be 13 in number, all women and children.
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>> and wolf, cnn has learned the israeli government has received a list of 13 women and children who will be released tomorrow, and their families have been notified. interesting, the first group of palestinian prisoners, boris, is also set to be freed by israel at that same time on friday, 4:00 p.m. here, 9:00 a.m. in washington. but this one-day postponement has meant one added day of fighting, heightening the tensions around this very, very fragile agreement. b becky anderson is joining us from qatar now. you asked several important questions at the briefing earlier today. what details have been fleshed out? >> reporter: i think it's important to point out that even though the spokesman for the ministry of foreign affairs here in qatar did his best to answer with detail in every question that was asked, clearly, there
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is some information that they are unwilling or just unable to provide. i mean, operational detail that would put in jeopardy this, as you describe it, very fragile set-up, this deal as things stand at the moment. they described to me the mediation team as these being very intense negotiations. very complicated at times. and even though we now have a time that the guns as it were will go silent and a loose time for the release of these hostages, anything can happen, of course. we asked a number of questions, as you rightly point out, not least for some specific detail on how those 13 hostages who have now been identified by hamas to the israelis, how they will be handed over to the red
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cres nlt and make their way out of gaza into ultimately the safety of the israelis. and this is what they told me. >> we can't disclose information for security reasons. we have always said, our main objective here is safety of the hostages, so we can't disclose that information regarding the route they will be going through, but we'll make sure they get through safety through our operation zone that will work with the red cross and parties of the conflict, that everybody is getting the information the right way so we can move them safely. >> reporter: it is important to point out, wolf, that despite the fact they couldn't give us the real sort of granular detail on how that routing would work, there is some proof of concept here because as you will remember, over the past 45 days,
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there have actually been two periods where two hostages have been released. one was an american woman and her 17-year-old daughter. and two israeli elderly citizens. and on those occasions, the icrc was delivered these individuals. they then made their way, one set to the crossing in israel and through that crossing, the others down to the egyptian border and routed back into israel to the south. so when i asked, will this be a similar operation, he was able to say, well, you know, pretty much yes. so i think we have a sense of what happens, but this is so fragile. we do understand that the guns will go silent, the hostilities will stop for tomorrow and then a period of four days.
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what's included in that is the flying of surveillance drones. on the last two occasions hostages were released there were drones flying above those releases, and they have stopped that on this occasion. there will be nothing in the air. that is to insure that nobody is confused as to whether there is continued hostility at that point of exchange. so we have to assume everything goes according to plan. we have to assume that for the benefit of the families of those hostages who are likely now to know who these 13 individuals are. let's remember, there are 39 children being held hostage at present. we know that. there are around 50 who will be -- 50 individuals who will be released over the next four days. we know hamas has something like 70 to ya80 in total. there's an opportunity for hamas to effectively buy an extra day's truce if they can extend
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by ten hostages each day the number of people who are released. the detail is there, the obligations on both sides baked into this deal. should either side break their obligations, then this deal will fall apart. the qataris have been specific with me in telling me those obligations are there for a reason. everybody understands what their obligations are, both on the israeli and on hamas' side. let's hope that they stick to them, wolf. >> all right, becky, stand by. we're going to get back to you. i want to bring in oren liebermann. officials are totally understandably being very careful about sharing specifics. but we do have more details about how the releases may actually play out, right? >> reporter: correct, we have learned how the process will work for transferring the 13 hostages. the first group that will come out from hamas to israel.
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first, hamas will hand those hostages over to the red cross in gaza. the red cross will then move them to certain border crossings, either rafah on the egyptian border if that's the easiest one to go through or perhaps if they're closing to the border crossings with israel, for example, they might come out that way. they'll be transferred to idf soldiers waiting to take them. it's worth noting those soldiers have been given specific instructions on how to receive those women and children into their care. that includes what they can say, what they can't say, letting them know they're now in a safe place. that's certainly would be a major question after 50 days of captivity in gaza. then from there, they'll be taken almost straight to hospitals. for the hostages under 12 years old, their families will meet them as soon as they can. for the hostages more than 12 years old, the families will meet the hostages at the hospitals. at that points, they will be in israel. the focus would shift from the first group to the second group in making sure the process still
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plays out. >> very delicate details indeed. tell us a little more about the role of the international red cross. >> reporter: it's a critical role here. under international law, they're supposed to be able to visit hostages and they're one of the only organizations that can operate in gaza, go in, bring the hostages out. there is a question about the other roles they play, in addition to transferring the hostages out of gaza, netanyahu has said under the agreement signed with hamas, they would be able to visit the other hostages who remain in captivity. the only problem there is we spoke with the red cross, and they say they're not aware of that part of the agreement, so that's a major question hanging over all this. >> lots of questions hanging over all of this right now. oren liebermann, thank you very much. becky anderson, thanks to you as well. we'll get back to both of you. meanwhile, israel has
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absolutely not, repeat not, let up on its air strikes. its forces continue to bombard gaza ahead of the anticipated truce. the idf says it carried out 300 strikes on hamas targets including military command centers, tunnels, and storage facilities for weapons. for more on this, i want to bring in military analyst cedric leighton. colonel, thank you for joining us. when this truce is implementing, fighting will pause for four days. that's part of the deal. from a military standpoint, colonel, what risks are there in allowing this type of multi-day pause? >> well, wolf, there are risks for both sides in this. both sides are seeking to take advantage of the situation right now, so when this truce takes effect on midnight, at midnight eastern time tonight, that will be the end of the line in essence for military operations for the next four days. so each side is trying to take
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advantage of that. if they fail to take advantage, if they fail to gain a tactical position that they want, or that they may need, that then puts them at a disadvantage, at least at that location. the other thing that could happen is if there are no surveillance capabilities because of the cessation of military operations, then it in essence bliends one side or the other as to what the adversary is doing. this is going to affect the israelis more than hamas, but the idea is that it would be the fact they're not allowed to use drones during this period, that is also a significant piece. however, there are other intelligence sources that the israelis can use and will most certainly use in this case. from a military perspective, the disadvantages are basically if you don't gain the position you need right now, you will lose the advantage and there's a
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possibility you will also lose momentum when the hostilities recommence, should they recommence after these four days. >> colonel, if hamas uses this time of the so-called pause to regroup, how do israeli forces prepare for that? >> so what they'll have to do, wolf, is the israelis will have to take a look and see where hamas is moving. this is where intelligence and surveillance become critical. they will need to know if hamas, for example, has set up a certain ambush or if they have moved many of their fighters into some of the tunnels or moved them somewhere else. those are the kinds of things they will need to know. they have to expect that hamas is going to regroup or try to regroup and what they will then do is when hostilities recommence, should they recommence, they will then target those areas where they believe the hamas fighters have moved to, so that's in essence how this is going to work. but it is going to require a lot of work on the part of the
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reconnaissance forces of the idf as well as their intelligence services. >> colonel, the israeli military says that it actually fired strikes along the border with lebanon today, after hezbollah launched attacks on an idf military base in northern israel. how does hezbollah capitalize on this so-called truce? >> yeah, they have several possibilities. one of them is to ignore anything that is going on in the south, which they're not going to do, but the possibility exists that they will use this time to do what they think they need to do against or in conjunction with hamas or against the israeli forces. so that's one thing. but the other thing that hues pola can do is basically support the efforts of hamas. if hamas is getting ready to mount a rocket strike, hezbollah could do the same thing in the north. they could occupy the israelis
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in the south, the center, and the north because of the ranges of the different rockets and missiles in the case of hezbollah. those are things that could happen. hezbollah will probably try to lay low at this particular point in time but there's always a possibility they may seek to exploit any type of movement that hamas is making or they may seek to take advantage of the lull in fighting in this particular situation. >> colonel cedric leighton, thank you very much for joining us. hope and anxiety here in israel right now, as many families wait to find out if their loved ones will be set free tomorrow. you'll hear from one of those family members coming up next. stay with cnn. we'll be right back.
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breaking news on the israel/hamas truce. qatari officials confirm the temporary truce will begin tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. local time, that's midnight tonight eastern time. and that 13 women and children are now set to be released around 9:00 a.m. eastern. they will be handed over to the international red cross. but this deal is likely of small comfort to those families whose loved ones thus far are not part of the agreement. joining us now is jonathan, a history professor at the hebrew university in jerusalem. his 35-year-old son was kidnapped by hamas on october 7th. professor, thank you so much for joining us. how are you and your family holding up with this news and how are you daughter-in-law and your grandchildren holding up? >> well, we're all doing the best we can under the circumstances. we are all from kibbutz so we have a multilevel crisis and trauma not just with the
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kidnapping but another 75 or 80 members of our kibbutz were kidnapped on october 7th. another 20 murdered and our entire community destroyed. so this news, and honestly, for me, for all of us, it's a mixed bag because he will likely not be released in this round. however, i expect that we know very well and our friends with many of those who will be released in this first batch. so we couldn't be happier for those families that will be reunited over the course of the next few days with their little children and moms. all of whom are like extended families for us. >> qatar says the international red cross will be allowed to check on the remaining hostages. what are your thoughts about this part of the deal? does it give you some hope about your son? >> well, it certainly does, wolf.
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since the morning of october 7th, we and many other of the hostage families have heard absolutely nothing about or from our loved ones. i truly hope, i mean, it's kind of outrageous that the red cross wasn't able to visit with them until now, but it will be really important for all of us to know all of the 240 or the 190 that will remain after this first stage, to get proof of life, to know if our loved ones are healthy. so that is an important step. but only one step, of course, towards what is the goal for all of us, which is the release of all of the hostages. >> how frustrated, professor, are you that you still have not heard any solid information at all about your son's whereabouts or wellbeing? >> well, it's -- it's with us that that fact is with us day
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and night. and you know, frustration, i'm not sure that's the correct word because we understand, this is about hamas. this isn't about the efforts that the israeli or the american government for that matter are making to ascertain the health, the whereabouts of all of the hostages. i think this is just yet another example of the savagery that we now know, we knew beforehand, but certainly had demonstrated to us during the attack on october 7th by hamas. it's just another layer of that. >> what more would you like to see from the white house, professor, to try to free your son and the other remaining hostages? >> well, wolf, i can say this. from two days following the attack itself, the biden administration has been very active in being in contact with me and the other nine families
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of u.s. dual citizen hostages in israel. since that point, the administration officials, the national security adviser, state department, fbi, foreign relations committee have been very transparent with us, and we feel as if there's a partnership being built. so i really -- at this point, i cannot say there's anything specific that i would want to see from the u.s. administration. but for all of us, not to be satisfied at this moment by this first wave which we really hope will come fast over the next few days, but not to be satisfied with that. this job is over when all 240 are home. the israeli americans and everyone else. >> good point. thank you so much for joining us. we of course hope you will be reunited with your son very, very soon. after these hostages are returned, a key question remains. what happens next? and what support they need after
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enduring a truly incredibly traumatic ordeal. joining us to discuss this part of the developments, paula davide, a social worker and psychotherapist in jerusalem who specializes in treating trauma in children and families. paula, thank you so much for joining us. thanks for all you're doing. what level of trauma do you expects to see from this children and the women once they're released? >> hello, wolf. i want to add first that i'm actually from the harub institute in jerusalem, and we're an institute that actually in regular days works on training professionals in the field of child maltreatment. however, we have been working now very intensely since october 7th about in the whole issue about trauma and the child hostages. and we actually have written guidelines along with the ministry of welfare and social affairs about what should happen once these children are brought
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over to israeli sides. in answer to your question, we -- >> go ahead. >> in answer to your question, we don't -- we have not experienced this kind of trauma in this country. there's no precedence for it. we're a country that knows a lot about trauma, has experienced a lot of trauma, but we have not experienced this, and we actually don't know, we do know that everybody has been profoundly traumatized. we know that children have witnessed their loved ones being murdered and then dragged off into sometimes with their parents, sometimes without their parents. we know some of them are going to be coming back with maybe with their mothers and maybe alone, and maybe without their fathers who are going to be staying there. and we are prepared for a profound traumatic response, i would say, from all of the children and even the adults who come back. >> i wonder, paula, if you could share with us some more details on how israel is preparing to
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care for these freed hostages. we hope all of them eventually will be freed. what will be the number one priority in helping them move forward and rebuilding their lives? >> that's a good question. i'm going to actually talk about the children because we're starting with the children now. and i think the number one priority is what we have to do when children are traumatized, which is to be able to reestablish somehow a sense of safety, and which is very difficult to do because actually, these are children who believe they were safe and the country has actually failed them by having this happen, this terrible event happen october 7th. we want to be able to help them feel a sense of empowerment and autonomy and to be able to maybe also get some -- a return to a thing that the world can be a benevolent place for them. which it hasn't been. >> what about the families and
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loved ones of the hostages inthe families and loved ones of the hostages, how can they help with this journey of healing? >> i think that the families are going to be a different family. and they're going to have a different experience. and the children are not going to be the same children. what we expect from parents is what we know that parents know how to do best, which is to love their children or other loved ones if there aren't parents left, to love the children and be patient with allowing them to reintegrate into society later. i think they need patience, a lot of love, and i think that also the parents will need a lot of guidance in ordered to understand the manifestations of trauma they'll be seeing in their children, and also to help manage their own very, very powerful feelings of having maybe let their children down, of seeing their children experience unmentionable deeds or have them witnessed terrible
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events and so forth. i think that everybody that's going to be taken care of these children has to be very, very patient, and we'll have to see what happens. >> paula, thanks for joining us. thanks for all you're doing. we appreciative. grateful to you, and our special live coverage will continue after this quiuick break. my sp.
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there's a state of emergency to tell you about in kentucky after more than a dozen freight train cars derailed spilling molten sulfur and sparking a fire. this was the scene in central kentucky, that's just north of livingston. you saw that dark plume of smoke in the air. officials say 50% of the fire has been contained so far. keep in mind, when molten sulfur burns it releases sulfur dioxide and that gas has a really strong scent, and it can cause irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat. officials are now urging residents near the derailment to evacuate to avoid any exposure to the toxic chemical. csx says specialized equipment is being brought in and used to monitor air quality in the area. we'll stay on top of the story and bring you any new details as we get them. meantimes, we're learning mew details about the car explosion that sparked fears of an attack at the u.s./canada
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border yesterday. today, officials saying all is no link to terrorism with this incident. security footage shows the car going airborne before the crashed and exploded into flames. you see it there going at a high rate of speed at the rainbow bridge near niagara falls. it hits a curb and then it goes flying. athena jones has been following the story for us. she joins us with more details, what are you learning? >> reporter: hi, boris. look, his was an incident that led to a lot of fear and confusion for several hours yesterday, happening at a time where there's already more concerns about terrorism, lone wolf attacks and the like. when law enforcement agencies in various cities are already on a heightened state of alert, here with that incident happened there was a lot of concern it may be terror related. quickly, the fbi and its law enforcement partners were able to converge on the scene, began investigating, and conclude after a matter of hours that there was no link to terrorism and there were no explosives in
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this 2022 bentley that as you noted and saw in the video was speeding across the u.s. side, heading the lane into canada, hit a curb, launched over this barricade. you can still see the place on the ground where the car dug up the mud. and it ended up airborne, landing behind that gray structure, hitting a border agent boothd. that agent was treated for minor injuries. listen to what new york governor kathy hochul had to say last night as the investigation came to a close. >> this is an international border. we have always felt a vulnerability there. this was a, you know, won't call it an accident. it's not determined to be an accident. you don't know whether the driver was intentional in how they drove. we do not know that. all i know is there was a horrific accident, i'm calling it accident, horrific incident, a crash, an explosion. loss of life. but at this time, no known
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terrorist connection. >> reporter: so at this time, no known terrorist connection. law enforcement authorities were scouring this man's social media, saying there really is nothing there. he did not have any nefarious intent. what authorities believe happened is that this man and his wife had planned to go to a concert by the rock group kiss on the canadian side of the border. that concert was canceled so they came to a casino here on the u.s. side. this accident occurred while they were about to cross again. but as you heard from the governor, it's unclear why this 2022 bentley accelerated at such a high rate of speed, causing it to launch into the air. the good news here is after a lot of confusion, all four border crossings shut down, three have now been reopened. we're still waiting to see how soon this rainbow bridge behind me opens. we also have seen authorities out this morning doing some fact finding. so bottom line here, this was not an incident of terrorism.
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according to the fbi and but two lives have tragically been lost as a result of it. >> and just to clarify, do we know when the rainbow bridge will be back up and running? have we gotten an update there? i think we lost her audio. thank you so much for that report. stay tuned to news central because when we come back, the qataris who brokered the hostage deal say the white house was in constant communication to get it done. we have details on the role that u.s. officials played to get it across the finish line. and later, a new court filing shows the mayor of new york city has been accused of sexual assault. he joins a list of others also being accused ahead of the expiration of a key piece of legislation. more details on that straight ahead.
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welcome back. i'm wolf blitzer in tel aviv, with just hours to go until the humanitarian pause kicks in, qatar is now revealing more about the u.s. involvement in these critically important negotiations. listen to this. >> president biden has been calling on his highness, the appear, and constant calls between both sides to make sure we work together on this, and we appreciate the work done by the united states to make sure that the deal comes to fruition, and we continue to work with the united states over this. i can't speak of the details of how it was formulated but of course with the communication that has taken place all across
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the board, the americans were very instrumental, especially in working with israel over this. >> i'm joined now by pj crowley, the former assistant secretary of state and former state department spokesman. thanks for joining us. as you know, qatar is confirming the work done by the united states to make sure this deal happens and the constant calls with the u.s. leadership leading up to this moment were very significant. how significant from your perspective was the u.s. involvement and for that matter president biden's role here? >> well, wolf, parts of the complexity here is you have israel and hamas, they're at war. and you have israel and qatar, they do not have formal diplomatic relations, so qatar provided the channel of communication, and i think the united states, including the president, you know, provided the validation of the process,
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because as you're going back and forth during an indirect negotiation, both sides have to get something of value. and both sides have to know at a certain point in this phase of the negotiation, this is as far a it's going to go. >> israel, the united states, egypt, qatar, and hamas were directly involved in the negotiations. can you give us a sense, pj, of what it took to get this deal to come together, to get everyone on the same page, as least as far as we know right now? >> well, as we know from reporting, the broad parameters of the initial phase of this negotiation, you know, were fairly well agreed upon days ago, but now you have to work through some of the mechanics. and of course, throughout this, you've got constituencies on the israeli side, on the hamas side, on the american side pushing for more, and so you need some statesmanship here, some risk
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taking to say look, we think we have a process that is beginning to work. so we have the prospects there can be multiple phases to this, but at some point, you need someone to keep pushing the process forward to say let's achieve what we can and then build on that over time. i think that's where the president was instrumental. >> plans to release the first hostages, as you know, pj, were delayed just hours before the pause in fighting was originally set to begin. the national security council said the parties were working out what they called logistical details. do you have any understanding of what has been happening behind the scenes here to get this deal going again? >> well, i think, wolf, there are a lot of moving parts to this. it's very complex, and part of that complexity is the fact that you have this negotiation going on in the midst of a conflict.
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so you need to put intermediaries in place, as we know, or as we think we know, not all the hostages are in one place. so they have got to be moved into position. who are going to be the intermediaries? the american red cross, for example, being critically important. are they positioned properly? and then you have sequencing in terms of what's going to happen on the hostage front, what's going to happen on the drone front, how do you keep the forces separated during this pause? so i'm not surprised this is taking some time to put together. >> how significant do you think it was president biden's personal foreign policy experience? he's worked on these issues in the middle east for who knows, for people who know him, for decades. >> i think this is where the depth of relationships and experience comes right to the fore. he's known these leaders for years, if not decades.
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he's worked with them intensively since coming to the white house. he can lean on them. they trust him. he's had valuable conversations. he's not shouting things on twitter, you know, at this country or that country. so he's built up a lot of currency here. and that currency he's been able to use in a productive way during the course of this crisis. >> pj crowley, thank you so much for joining us. we'll be right back with more news.
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now to some major news out of new york city. mayor eric adams is being accused of sexual assault. according to the complaint it happened in 1993. jean casarez has more on this including the mayor's response. jean, what's the latest? >> reporter: we have just found out about this. there was a summons filed. it's a civil situation filed by an accuser against the mayor of new york city, eric adams. i want to say the reason -- there are so many -- it's all because of legislation passed by the new york governor in november of 2022. it's the adult survivor's act. it says any accuser of a sexual crime they believe happened, as
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far back as it could go, they may not be able to go to criminal court, but civilly they can sue for monetary damages. it doesn't matter when. that's why the deadline is ending this week. there's a flurry of these now. this accuser who remains nameless, but says was a city employee at the time in 1993, 30 years ago, alleging sexual assault, sexual battery, retaliation, hostile work environment and intentional infliction of emotional distress. of course mayor adams is a defendant as well as the city of new york and thee's king for a 5 million. new york's response several hours ago. >> my career speaks for itself. this really is something that's never happened. i don't ever recall meeting the person who made the -- this
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allegation. >> reporter: time will be extended to allow for an actual complaint to be filed. boris, i covered a lot of these cases. when they're old like this, it's very difficult because witnesses can't be found, memories are tarnished. she's saying retaliation. the question is did she make a complaint? is there paperwork on it? anything like that can really help her. >> jean, you mentioned the flurry of lawsuits being filed. we're tracking two big-named celebrities sexual assault accusations filed. actor jamie foxx being sued and the singer of guns n roses, axel rhodes. >> reporter: jamie foxx's accuser is nameless. she's saying in 2016 she was in a restaurant and he approached her and took her to the side of
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the roof top bar area and began to touch her. it was not consensual. she's alleging that. we have no response from jamie foxx's people. we have reached out. then with axl rose, a former pe alleging at a party in 1989 at an apartment in new york city she alleges there was cocaine, alcohol and that she saw axl rose interacting with another woman. she kissed him. that was consensual. then she said he went into a violent rage. we have a response for the attorney from axl rose who says, simply put, this incident never happened. he doesn't deny the possibility of a fan photo taken, but mr. rose has no recollection of
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meeting the plaintiff and never heard about these fictional allegations prior to today. these will proceed in court in new york. there needs to be evidence and a response required and wanted by the defendants in this case. this is how it all begins. >> jean casarez, thank you so much for that. >> reporter: thank you. israel says it's notified the families. the first hostages expected to be released on friday. cnn's special coverage from the middle east continues after a short break.
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