couple of things. first of all, mike pence wrote a book where he came out with some of the details, many details, but not all of them. i think the argument you will hear from trump's lawyers is anything he didn't put in the book is what we call a recent fabrication, something he made up after the fact. he has said that at times he believed there were irregularities in the voting, though ultimately he comes around to at view there was in evidence of fraud. i think he will press mike pence on the fact that donald trump was hearing different pieces of advice from different advisors, some seen as more responsible telling trump there is no evidence of fraud, others say there was evidence of fraud and push ahead. defense lawyers for trump are going to focus on the latter part. >> thank you. commas matter. appreciate it. cnn morning morning continues now. ♪

should be here in a couple of minutes. i don't believe it. all of a sudden the door opened up and she just ran. it was beautiful. just like in -- just like i imagined it, you know? running together. >> what an interview. you will hear much more of that soon. good morning, everyone. glad you are with us this hour. that was the father of 9-year-old emily hand describing the moment he reunited with his beloved little girl after she spent more than seven weeks in hamas captivity. this morning he sat down with our own clarissa ward for his first interview since emily came home. >> right now we are watching and waiting for hamas to release ten more hostages today after the temporary truce of israel was extended for two more days. late yesterday, hamas released a fourth round of captives. that group including a mother

and her 3-year-old twin daughters. sadly, their father still being held. >> this video this morning, 12-year-old atan getting a hogue as they were reunited last night. the only american hostage released since friday is 4-year-old abigail idan. later this hour we will be joined by her family. >> kaitlan collins is in tel aviv. one american released. what do we know about when officials expect the other americans, two in particular, two american women, to be released? >> reporter: it's a question that even u.s. officials are wondering right now. they certainly believe that those americans would be in that first group of 50. there are several americans still being held, but there are three that they believed would qualify for women and children and make it into those first four days of the hostage releases. so far that is not happening. and now we are on day sfief of ma was really supposed to be a

four-day temporary truce. it has now been extended for two more days. it's clear why it was extended. every side feels like they are benefiting from this. it's quiet in gaza right now. there is a lot of aid going in. you are not seeing the idf forces there move around much. they maintained these truce lines as they are referring to them and, obviously, israel is getting its hostages back and you are seeing that after emotional reunion and emotional reunion with all of these families who want to know whether or not their loved ones are going to be next. i think one thing to keep in mind here is this is such a heartbreaking day-by-day basis for these families who they get a call from the israel government each night once hamas has handed over the list either telling them, yes, your loved one is on it, no, they are not. they are waiting for the phone to ring. that's where we are on day five. a big question right now is what comes after day six. it's not clear on either side yet if it will get extended again what this will ultimately look like or who hamas has left

into captivity to produce under this category. we are seeing a lot of emotional reunions between the families and one that is probably the most searing is emily hand and her father. cnn's chief international correspondent clarissa ward is here in tel aviv. you spoke to him, you know, no one will forget when he said he initially thought his daughter was killed. where do you start now that they have been reunited? >> i think there is obvious joy and you saw that in that clip, the moment that he saw her, that he held her, he talked about squeezing her too hard, talked about how skinny she had become, how pale she was, and for days she would only speak in a whisper because she had been told repeatedly during her captivity to be quiet, to be quiet, and she is only now rediscovering her voice. there is a sense it will be a very long journey ahead. and we asked about the events of october 7th. of course, one of the biggest challenges for tom as a dad had

been basically telling emily about what happened in kibbutz be'eri where they were living and what happened to people in her own community, part of her family. tom's first wife, who was basically like a second mother to emily, the mother of his two older children, she was killed on october 7th and this is something that he had to break to emily. take a look. >> does emily understand what happened on october 7th? >> yeah. yeah. unfortunately, she does. and how do you tell her, you know, your second mom is dead? killed. shot. when we got back to the hospital, i asked the psychiatrist, you know, what should i do? you've just got to tell her straight. that's the best way. okay. yeah. that was very hard.

because we told her and, you know, her little eyes glazed up and she just went, took a sharp in-breath, took a breath. terrible thing to tell a child. and they recommend you have to close the book. sounds cruel, but you have to stop the hope. you've got to stop that. it has to be final. she is dead. >> reporter: and you feel how much pain there still is, even for families, that have had the fortune to have their loved ones returned to them. there is such a profound sense of grief for all that has been lost, for the loss of emily's innocence. he said she is starting to smile more. she is starting to play more. even last night, out of nowhere, she hid underneath the cover in their hotel room and just

started sobbing for an hour and didn't stop and didn't want to be comforted and didn't want to talk about it and he said he has been told by the psychiatrist and psychologists who he is consulting with it's an really important to allow this to unfold at its own pace, allow emily to share when she is ready and not to push her too much to try to get details of her captivity, although we are learning more of those details. >> what are we learning? >> interestingly, kaitlan, she was not held in the tunnels as many of the hostages have been. she was held in houses and moved frequently. house to house, because the bombardment of course was intensive. the israel military was on the move. they are worried about being targeted or located. so there was a lot of movement from house to house. she was kept intact with this unit, the young girl who she had been spending the night with, the sleepover with and her mother, hilla and riah were

separated. he said that riah was like a mother to emily and they became incredibly close. how she used to stroke hilla's ear at it's night to help her fall asleep. he talked about the fact that she hasn't been physically harmed. she has terrible case of head l lice and there wasn't enough food. they got breck fwas every day. lunch and dinner not always. she learned to like to eat just plain olive oil and bread because sometimes that was all that they had. and beyond that he is really just waiting for her to give more information, to give more details when she is able to talk about it with the full realization that might take quite some time. >> i can't imagine how many questions he has for her about what she has gone through, because, i mean, to be a parent and be protective and want to know everything she's seen and

to not be able to necessarily outright ask that. >> it's really hard. he said that. he said i want no know everything. i want to understand everything she has been through. and every child and every hostage is different. for example, with hilla, now reunited with hrc brother, she wants to talk about it non-stop. she wants to give every single detail and it is a form of catharsis for her to talk about it. emily is very different. emily -- and she is younger, emily, keep in mind. she just turned 9 years old in captive city. it's harder for her to talk about it. she is still finding her voice. she is still struggling, i think, to process what she has been through. and even some small detail that stayed with me again, tom asked her, how long do you think you were held for in captivity? because of course they didn't have phones or clocks or calendars. she said hill and i thought we were held for a year, which i think goes to show you just how

your entire universe is flipped upside down, time stands still, everything is different and alien and foreign. and i think it's going to take her a very long time before she really starts to let go of that, reacclimatize. for tom, of course, there is a lot of guilt involved, even though, of course, he has done nothing wrong and nothing to justify feeling that way. as a parent you understand it. why couldn't i help her, save her? whether he should have sneaked into gaza at some point to rescue here and all the things that go through his mind. sometimes we forget the trauma the people on this side who haven't been held in captivity and have been held hostage emotionally by their im potent to safely get their loved ones out freely. obviously, now emily is free. so many others are not. that's why where tom's focus is, to push and campaign for the

others to get out, too. >> their journey is nothing short of remarkable. clarissa ward, we will be watching much more of that interview. great interview. poppy, phil, one of the many stories here as these reunions are happening. they look happy in the videos and they are, but they are also filled with some trauma, as you can still see. >> a long path ahead. as you noted, so many parents, children being reunited after 50 days, 4-year-old abigail idan is reunited with her loved ones. we will speak with two of her family members ahead. happening right now, this rescue mission underway to save 41 workers trapped inside a tunnel in northern india for 17 days. some should come out at any moment. we'll take you there live. i

was the right president at the right time. [ applause ] i was proud to serve america in his administration. and i agree with a lot of his policies. but the truth is rightly or wrongly, chaos follows him. you know i'm right. chaos follows him. >> that was nikki haley at a rally in bluffton, south carolina, pitching voters why she thinks she is a better choice than donald trump. with seven weeks until republican voters in iowa have their voices heard, haley touted

a poll showing her in second place. she told the proud she expects the field to narrow after iowa and after new hampshire, which she suggested would allow her to have a real chance to win her home state of south carolina. trump, however, still has a wide lead in all three of those states. >> you can't deny haley's rise in the polls. that has raised questions for some of about the viability of some of her candidates including our next guest, chris christie, one of trump's biggest critics who has staked out a strategy in new hampshire. he is with us this morning, former governor of new jersey, presidential candidate. good to have you here. we were listening with you on dana bash on "state of the union" and you said that you are in this through the convention, the summer? >> yep. >> here is what you told us in july. lisp. listen. >> after i lost in new hampshire, eight years ago, poppy, i got out. and i think i wouldn't feel comfortable asking donors for more money for voters for their

vote if i didn't see a realistic path to victory. >> then you also told "the new york times" in september i don't do well in new hampshire i leave. what changed? >> nothing changed. i have got better in new hampshire. it seems to me that there is no path now that doesn't include me continuing. i am going do well in new hampshire. >> what's well? >> look, i right now i am in the top three and i think i will do better than that. and so that's what's changed. what's changed we start today move up in the polls pretty significantly. ron desantis and vivek ramaswamy have dropped significantly in new hampshire. so that's what's changed. i am going to continue to keep you guys updated as circumstances change. and circumstances have changed. >> you like the polls right now? >> well, look, i still don't think the polls are really extraordinarily accurate. and my proof of that is just go back to the history. in '07 at this time, thanksgiving of '07, you know, mitt romney was winning the iowa caucuses and mike huckabee was

at 4%. he wound up winning. in 2011, at this point newt gingrich was winning the iowa caucuses by a pretty wide margin and rick santorum, who ultimately won, was at 3%. on thanksgiving of 2011. and in 2015, ben carson was winning by ten points and ted cruz was at 7%. so he wound up winning. so it's not that i distrust these particular polls. i just know that voters make their decisions very late in this business and they are willing to change. in fact, in a recent poll we did, three quarters of donald trump's voters in new hampshire said they are open to changing their minds between now and primary day on january 23rd. so i know everybody wants to make this race over now, but it's not over and it's not even close to over. when you look at the history, forget about predictions, look at what's happened over time, and what's happened tells you that there is a long way it go and i like the fact that we are

gaining momentum now. >> it seems that the new kind of it candidate in the field right now is nikki haley. she has been rising in the polls. there is a lot of talk about her. one of the issues i think she differentiated is on abortion, particularly in the wake of what we saw in virginia, what we saw a couple of weeks ago in november. i am struck a couple weeks ago in iowa she said she would sin a six-week abortion ban. poppy asked but abortion when you were on set a couple months ago-. would you sign a six-week abortion ban? >> i would not. the reason is because we fought for 50 years, i think we had this conversation before, we fought for 50 years to put this in the hands of the people to state federal government in that case the supreme court took it out of the hands of the people and gave them no voice. now people have a voice. you mentioned virginia, michigan, ohio, kansas. and one thing i know for sure is there is no consensus around a six-week abortion ban nationally. >> do you think that makes her

unelectable? >> much more difficult in the general election for her because you could see when governor desantis signed that bill in florida it certainly a affected his popularity with a broader electorate, and my view is this h i want the people, not the politicians, to make the decision. let people vote in the states. we see a great exercise in democracy going on across the country. this is one of the most emotional issues. i am pro-life. that's my personal belief and i believe strongly in it. here is the bottom line. people should be able to make this choice. it's too emotional to put this in the hands of politicians. if you are the american people and watch this house of representatives try to pick a speaker and see what they went through. watch the senate not able to promote military officers because they are so paralyzed. you want to put abortion in the hands of those folks? i don't. as president i would not sign a six-week abortion ban. it doesn't represent consensus in the country and it's taking away, most importantly for me,

what we fought for for 50 years, put in the hands of the people and let estate make their own decision. >> there is some big money guys and they are guys who -- ken lang doan in backed you in 2016 until you drowned out of the race, planning to meet with nikki haley next week. he told cnbc the only person i see could give trump a run for his money, nikki haley. another told bloomberg he was cop testimony plating it when it comes to nikki haley. are you worried about the big money going after haley? >> i am not. >> really? >> no, none of them have. >> you don't want it? >> none of them have. i met with ken griffin and spoken to him. i think he is going through the process of trying to decide if there is someone he believes could beat donald trump. if he wants to support that person -- there are plenty of other folks. we have had a number of people, folks that ahave known over the years in wall street and folks around the country supporting our campaign and supporting our

super pac. and so i don't feel concerned at all. we feel like we have -- you always could use more money, poppy. no one is going to say no. >> that's why you surprised me when you said you are not worried. >> you can't wore wry. you go out and work and make your case to the american people, including the donors, why you are the best alternative. if you are convincing, you will get them to write a check. if you're not, you won't. i don't sit every day worry about it. governor haley's campaign is good about process stories, someone meeting with someone. i don't put out stories about every person i meet with. two reasons. one, i don't know what the meeting is going to lead to, and two, i like to keep those meetings quiet. those people tend to be more honest when you're quiet i quiet. my concern about this abortion issue is real because you can't say one thing in iowa and something different in new hampshire. now, i was on the stage neck to governor haley when she gave a

long talk -- i think it was the second debate about how we don't want to divide the country, i don't -- we have to respect everyone's opinions. then sitting across from bob in iowa, a much more conservative place, she said i would sign a six week abortion plan. well, which one is it? i think we have to take her at her word she would sign a six-week abortion ban. i don't think that is consensus in this country. the republicans don't need that. we need to win. and to win we need to let people speak themselves. not put in in the hands of politicians. >> seems like something that might coming up at a debate. >> you know, phil, i'll answer. the thing that's different about my debate performance frs the other folks is i actually listen to the questions and then answer the question that is asked rather than the answer that i memorized beforehand. it's a crazy strategy, but we are going to actually try to be responsive to people. that's why you see our numbers go up after the last debate. people look on the stage and say she's or extraordinarily serious

times. when you say onening in iowa and something different in new hampshire when you are not telling people responsive answer to a direct question, people wonder how serious you are. with the war in israel, with the war in ukraine, the problems at home economically, and the unrest that we have in our college campuses, you need a serious president who is going to answer the questions directly and tell people the truth. that's why we're running. >> governor chris christie, appreciate you coming in. >> good to see you both. so ahead, the suspect in the shooting of those three palestinian college students has plead not guilty to attempted murder charges. the mother of hisham awartani joins us live next.

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>> reporter: mine and evan perez's, we obtained a letter from hunter biden's lawyers to the house oversight committee, this committee that has been to go an inquiry that the biden family and any transactions they may have with foreign entities or foreign people, and now the president's son is willing to testify publicly, not behind closed doors. his lawyers say, you know, he got a subpoena, they are willing to respond to that subpoena, and they are willing to put him under oath before this house committee. they are making very clear they disagree with what the house committee is doing here, but they do say and write in this letter today sent by hunter biden's lawyers we have seen you use closed-door sessions to manipulate, distort the facts and misinform the public. we, therefore, propose opening the door if, as you claim, your efforts are important and involve issues that americans should know about, then let the light shine on these proceedings. so these proceedings that

they're talking about and the reason that hunter biden was subpoenaed here earlier this month is because there is an ongoing inquiry led by the chairman of the oversight committee, jim comer, looking into the possibility of any connection that hunter biden's business dealings or others in the biden family may have with the president, some evidence of corruption. even republicans in -- not on that committee, but around the republican caucus have really questioned whether this is an impeachment inquiry that should go forward into the president. there is a lot of doubt that they are finding any facts for evidence to this effect. but hunter biden's lawyers say, you subpoenaed, we're ready, put him on the stand. >> we will see what happens. thank you. an update this morning on the man who is accused of shooting three palestinian students in vermont. police say when they approached 48-year-old jason eaton at his home sunday he said, quote, i have been waiting for you. he pleaded not guilty to three counts of attempted second-degree murder. he is being held without bail

and police are still investigating if they are going to charge this as a hate crime. there is some good news to report this morning. sources tell cnn one of the three men has been released from the hospital. he has not been identified, however, due to concerns for his safety. i am joined by liz president trump pris, the mother of one of the victims, a student, hisham awartani, he and his friends were shot while out for a walk after a birthday party. thank you very much for being with me this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> we understand your son is hospitalized still and expected to be for about the next month? can you just update us on his condition this morning? >> yes, i mean, it's been hard to get catch up with the condition because i am traveling and my father, who is there, is exhausted. so we're going to be there in a

few -- i think 24 hours. so we will be on the ground and know exactly what's going on. the last i knew he was still in icu, immobilized to try to get the swelling down on his back, making sure that he has been getting medication to make sure his spinal fluids and kblood is at a good enough level to keep it, you know, healing. his clavicle is broken and he has a fractured thumb due to the bullet embedded in his back, he has a hard time regulating his body temperature. so they are managing that with either keeping him warm or packing him with ice bags. and in total, i guess the diagnosis is he has an incomplete spinal injury, which means that he can feel his legs but currently can't move them. >> you said last night you just want to be with him as his mother, of course, as every mother would. i am so glad you are on your way and will be able to be by his

side. you are in im an, jordan. the king of jordan is sending help, is that right, for him? >> it's amazing the support that we have received. the king's personal physician has reached out to me to express -- to convey his n majesty's concern for hisham and the other boys and is hoping to send a specialist and identify what kind of support hisham needs. so it's really an act of generosity by king abdull a. >> certainly is. >> one of the reasons that your family decided along with hisham that he should stay in the u.s. for the holidays is you thought he would be safe here. is that right? >> yes. yes. i mean, yes. yes. i mean, i think it's -- it was a shock to us that this would happen. burlington is a quiet place.

it is still a community that i admire, i respect, i value. it's a place where, you know, it is more like our home, which is so community and family oriented in palestine than any other place i have been to in america. so i still respect the burlington community. it goes to show with easy access to guns and in a context where the main dream narrative and leaders in the community and in the government exhort in the political spectrum, exhort people to other -- to over the people who are being different from them, that creates opportunities or creates thoughts that people might act on. and when you have a gun and you act on something, it can have lethal consequences, or in the case of these children, like -- consequences. >> i know you are close to all the boys. they grew up together. i know you must be counting the minutes until you can get here and embrace them all. elizabeth, we are rooting for

all of them. thank you. >> thank you very much. after 50 days, 4-year-old abigail idan is finally reunited with her loved ones. we will speak with two of heher familyly members a about that t return.. that's n next.

after some 50 days of captivity in gaza, this was the moment 4-year-old abigail idan was finally reunited with her loved ones. hamas kidnapped abigail on october 7th. of course, the same day she became an orphan. >> you know, her mom was killed in front of her when her kibbutz

was attacked by hamas terrorists on october 7th. abigail ran to her dad then, who then was gunned down, gunned down as well, while using his body to shield little abigail. she then ran to a neighbor for help where they were all taken hostage. >> abigail is a dual american citizen. she was released sunday. that makes her the first american hostage freed since the start of this truce. she was taken to schneider children's medical center. you see her there happily reunited with her aunt, uncle, and her grandparents. joining us now again abigail's great aunt liz hirsch naftali and her cousin, noa. this day, the fact that it is here, you can see those images, everything you were praying for, how does it feel, liz? >> well, it's a miracle. it's remarkable. we thank you for having us again, and i am so glad that we are on this side where abigail,

who turned 4 on friday, is free and she is with her family and she is with her sister and her brother. so it feels amazing in that respect because she is now safe at home, but there is two things. one is there are still many hostages that haven't been released and are not home with their loved ones, and for abigail, this is going to be a journey. i mean, she witnessed her parents both be murdered. and so this is going to be a long journey for her. but the fact that she is home and she is with her family, we can at least have a sigh of relief and know she is with her loved ones. >> to that point, the journey ahead you almost can't comprehend how difficult it will be. you see kind of a spark in her eyes, the smile in those photos as she is surrounded by family. talk about the family infrastructure in place for her

as she goes through that journey. >> abigail is a little girl who is full of love of life. and to see her, again, see her smiling is really remarkable. her family is incredible. they are -- they have been through so much, yet they have everything that they need emotionally in order to be there for this child and they are surrounded bit love and support of their community and we're relieved to see her home. it gives us hope to see that this framework is working, that the united states and qatar are managing to bring israel and hamas to some kind of deal, and we really hope to continue seeing people come home to their loved ones where they belong. >> that is why you are wearing those patches on your shirts, right, with the number of days. and you change them every day. you continue to wear them, even though gable is home?

>> well, yes. 52 respects now the amount of days that hostages have been somewhere in the dark, somewhere in gaza, and in many cases we don't nono where the hostages is. of it's clear they don't know where a 9-month-old child is right now. so we wear this because we have american hostages, israeli hostages. until they come home we want people to understand these are real lives that have been taken, ob abducted, and we want to make sure people understand that just the severity of this and that it isn't -- it's hard -- we can lose track of time, but this is 52 days that these people have not been with their loved ones. we don't know anything about them. the red cross hasn't been able to visit with them. and in the same breath, i will say that i know that president biden and his team and the government and as noa mentioned, the qataris, everybody is

working to release them. until that happens every day we need to understand what that really means. >> noa, what is the relationship like between family members of those who have been taken hostage, both released and that are still being held? you guys have been critical to keeping this front and center, to keeping the spotlight on this issue as the diplomatic talks have gone forward. do you have contact with other family members? do you coordinate? do you talk about how this is all going to work to keep pressure on? >> i hope that none of you will ever know what we have gone through, what these families are going through, but we know and these other family members know and that communication and support has been, i think, one of the only things, main things keeping us going in this absolutely unbearable and excruciating reality. and we hope that no one will ever have to join this club. >> certainly understand that.

and it's working. nobody would want to be a part of that or go through of all have gone through. it's having an effect. we have seen the effect in the photos with abigail it and so many others, so many more still, obviously, need to come home. liz and noa, we appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you. we have some sad breaking news just into cnn to report. israel this morning confirming the death of a man listed as a hostage. the idf says that ravid katz was taken october 7th. it is unclear if he died in gaza or was killed in israel. his body was though brought over the border. he was from kibbutz near oz. his sister, she and her two young children, 2 and 5 years old, they were among the hostages freed on friday. c.j. rice has been in prison more than a decade now. he is one step closer to

freedom. cnn's jake tapper joins us about this critical development in his case. and happening right now in india, a rescue mission to save 41 workers trapped in a tunnel more than two weeks. some should be out at any moment.

this morning, a philadelphia man is one step closer to freedom. yesterday, c.j. rice was granted a petition for writ of habeas corpus by a pennsylvania judge as a teenager, rice was sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison for a 2011 shooting. the judge found his attorney rendered ineffective assistance and ordered pennsylvania decide to retry him or free him. >> it was a cover story in the atlantic that started a legal effort to get him released and bring justice. the title of this report, this is not justice. a philadelphia teenager and the empty promise of the sixth amendment. and the reporter who wrote that incredibly compelling and important piece learned about

c.j.'s ordeal after rice's pediatrician said he didn't think c.j. could have done this crime because he himself was recovering from a shooting at that time. and that reporter, our very own jake tapper. the pediatrician, his father, dr. tapper. watch the original report on rice. >> he had staples in his abdomen over approximately an 8 or 9-inch surgical incision from his breast bone straight down as far as you could go. there was no way this young man five days after i saw him was running anywhere, let alone walking fast. >> joining us now, cnn anchor jake tapper. wow, jake, what a culmination of a lot of work. so the fact that this judge granted this petition for writ of habeas corpus, what does it mean now? >> well, it means his conviction was overturned. and now, the commonwealth of

pennsylvania has 180 days to decide whether they are going to set c.j. free or whether they're going to retry his case. and the commonwealth will be represented by the district attorney of philadelphia, and a division in the district attorney's office has already ruled that c.j. was denied sixth amendment rights and was not given a competent attorney. so i expect, i do not know this for a fact, but i expect that ultimately, the district attorney of philadelphia will free c.j. again, i do not know that for a fact. since his office has already ruled that c.j. did not have adequate representation and since c.j. has already done 12 years in prison for a crime that i do not believe he could have committed, a crime that nobody was seriously injured in, much less killed. i think that ultimately, c.j. will be a free man.

hopefully, sooner rather than later. >> can you take people back to your piece, both how you kind of got into it but also, it was so damning. how it was written based on your reporting, how it came to be. >> okay, so my dad is a pediatrician. he's retired now. and he worked in a poorer section of philadelphia, a lower income section. and c.j. was his patient. and c.j. was shot in 2011, and a few weeks after he was shot, c.j. was accused of participating in a shooting, but my dad said he couldn't have done that shooting. he couldn't have walked up to this family and then run away because he could barely walk. but, you know, the justice system, quote/unquote justice system in this country is what it is. and based on a photo lineup of very questionable circumstances, one witness said that c.j. did

the shooting. and based on that one witness, c.j. was convicted. and sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison, even though his codefendant was completely acquitted. and my dad asked me to take a look at this after years and years of trying to get c.j.'s conviction overturned based on the fact he didn't think that it was fair, and that he didn't think his medical testimony was adequately respected during the trial. and that he didn't think c.j.'s lawyer was very good, a woman who has since passed away. i took a look at it. and realized that he had actually inadequate representation. the sixth amendment to the constitution guarantees you counsel. and he really did not have adequate counsel, so i went to my friend jeff goldberg, the editor of the atlantic, and i said i would like to write about this. and jeff, to his great credit, assigned me another researcher,

reporter to help me write the story, and we wrote this piece. and jeff put it on the cover of the atlantic, october 2022. and hopefully that got a conversation going. in the meantime, my dad, i think, although he won't confirm it, hired an attorney named carl schwartz, and he filed this habeas petition based on the same argument that c.j. did not have adequate representation. and the district attorney's office in september agreed, and then one judge in october agreed, and then the second judge yesterday also agreed. so c.j.'s question has been overturned. now we're just waiting for the system to move forward and let c.j. out for this great injustice. i would just like to -- i know i'm rambling, but i would like to point out, we know jails, prisons, are full of kids like this. full of lower income, especially people of color, and that c.j. just happened to have been lucky to have had a pediatrician with a son who is a journalist.

and it sucks, this is the system we have. >> yeah, well, it's why you put air quotes around justice. how many other c.j.s are out there? this is everything, jake. >> thousands. >> that's exactly right. thank you, jake, for all you did on this. we'll track it. >> thank you for having me on. i appreciate it. president biden and the first lady heading to georgia at any moment to honor the late rosalynn carter, some others who plan to be there, it may surprisese you. wewe'll take you to atlanta nex.

. at any moment, president biden and first lady jill biden will depart for atlanta to attend the memorial service of former first lady rosalynn carter. >> jimmy carter will also be there as well as former president clinton and every living former first lady. laura bush, hillary clinton, michelle obama, and melania trump. we're live in atlanta. what do we know about the plans for today? >> reporter: phil and poppy, in just a few hours, the motorcade will arrive here from the carter center to the glenn memorial church on emory university's campus. and then this momentous tribute, this memorial service will begin. you mentioned a number of esteemed figures. we'll also hear from the atlanta symphony orchestra, a former country music stars, trisha

yearwood, garth brooks. we'll hear songs like morning has broken, great is thy faithfulness. you'll know how powerful those songs are and how important they were to the former first lady. and i think all of this really illustrates that the former first lady was a legendary figure in her own right, separate and apart from her husband. the former president jimmy carter. here's how members of her family are thinking about this moment. >> we know how much we loved her. and it's just so heartwarming to see how the nation loves her. >> i want people to remember my aunt as someone who stood up for what she believed in. you know, she believed in equal rights for women, she believed in caregiving. >> a true testament to their love story that the former president, 99 years old, that he