>> there is a powerful moment today at the tribute service for former first lady rosalynn carter. her husband, 77 years, former president jimmy carter, emerge from hospice care to attend in a scene there in the front row. we didn't hear from him, but their daughter amy did share a letter that he wrote to their mother 75 years ago. >> my darling, every time i have ever been away from you, i have been thrilled when i return to discover just how wonderful you are. while i am away, i tried to convince myself that you really are not, could not be as sweet and beautiful as i remember. but when i see you, i fall in love with you all over again. does that seem strange to you? it does to me. goodbye darling, until tomorrow.

to me. >> there is was quite a bond. thank you so much for joining us here in tel aviv tonight. laura coates live starts right now. >> good evening everyone, and welcome to the special two hour edition of laura coates live. abby has the night off. there is a clear violation of a shaky truce between israel and hamas, maybe spell its end? both sides of the war confront this choice, to choose between peace or to renew violence. and there two very different stories emerging this very evening, from the very same incident. clashes in northern gaza that both sides say marked a breach of an already touch and go truce. both sides are pointing fingers and laying the blame on the other first skirmishes reportedly involving explosive

devices. now, it is truly a classic fog of war incidents, and yet, at least for now, both sides are choosing to look past. it we already know and witnessed a now nightly routine, the israeli government says it proceeds and is going to review our list of hostages that hamas says it will hand over tomorrow. today, the starkly different view of the war, not from the front line of fighting, but from the choreographed handover of israelis. this comes courtesy of agency france press, and it shows hundreds lined up around red cross vehicles, cheering, shouting god is great. the look and feel, it is very different than the -- slaughter of israelis. the world watched on october 7th. at one point, you're going to see masked terrorists escort a person in a wheelchair to the red cross. now, i want to bring in former

pentagon counter official alex pleased us. i'm so glad that you are here with us tonight, and looking at all that we are seeing, first of, all it's a very clear violation of what's happening, but they're looking past. it the hostages are still going to be released, what are you seeing when you think about how it's all unfolding? >> that's a great question. and when the incidents unfold earlier today, i was very concerned that this was going to escalate and potentially derail the ongoing transfer of hostages, and the temporary cease-fire that's been established with the negotiations taken place. but as you mentioned, it was an isolated couple of incidents that were there and whether it was fog of war, as you mentioned earlier, are very realistic potential, or whether or not this was a couple of actors who are trying to drill a process, it's clear that both sides do not see that as something they want to move forward with, and they're going to look past it right now. >> you are saying what happened, with the areas of evacuation, that's in line with all the hospitals, the two main roads for evacuation, you know of course the different foreign countries, and yet this rough

across-ing that everyone's been looking at and pointing to, where did all this take place? do we have an idea of these skirmishes? >> yes, so the skirmishes, the israeli forces are operating in the north. as you mentioned here, and you see what he gaza, which is the line that the israelis have given saying that everyone needs to evacuate south of there. so the row number of explosions that took place, it was three altogether, if i'm not mistaken. tons of machine gun fire that turned into a bit of a skirmish, i think that was said earlier. >> and we know of course the director has been back in the area, and so we know all the people released, we're talking about women and children, there are still many others. now the combinations around potential releasing men. what's happening there? >> great question. bill burns is fantastic cia director, and he is a very unique skill set of experiences, where he was up -- for a long time, he spent more time with vladimir putin than anyone else in the administration, i was at dinner with him about a month ago were our former cia director talked

about being on the phone with him as they were reaching an agreement back in the day -- he's got a boatload of experience, he knows i'm negotiate, he knows how to deal with tough characters, and he's something that the administration has relied on on a regular basis to deliver sensitive, diplomatic notes or discussions behind closed doors when things get -- he's the right guy for the job right now. >> when you look at what we're learning, and we're hearing about the stories of so many more, these human beings, these people, these loved ones, we're learning about some who had to endure watching the horrific videos of the slaughter. does that tell you anything about the psychological warfare at play here? >> yeah, i think so. and there's a couple of potential reasons why they would do that. so whether it's just continuing of the torture that they endured, there were some that particularly enjoyed it, we know from videos that were captured by go throw that some of the hamas members were laughing, there was maniacal laughter in the background, there was some people who enjoyed what happened, which makes this even more sick. or whether or not it's

potentially a warning. because a lot of the folks released had at least one family member who remain captured who they were co-located with for some time. so they may have wanted to prevent them from giving details about where they were captured in locations, specifically to avoid that situation and giving up the information. so to do so, continuously providing them of the repercussions of what could happen and to scare them into basically be quiet. >> that's a really important point. the idea of trying to use this, not only as a way of showing at this maniacal a moment, but also trying to deter them from saying, here -- we don't even know, we don't know at this point. and all the things that must be taking place. really, really powerful when you think about all of this. and for -- so many reasons. alex fleetest, thank you so much for joining us today. even the youngest hostages, once released, are having to return to lives that may have drastically changed. cnn's clarissa ward spoke to thomas ham, this is the father

of the nine year old emily. emily had been at a sleep over, asleep over on october 7th, when hamas attacked. he initially thought that his beautiful little girl was dead. but he found out later that she had been kidnapped by hamas. she was released on saturday, and thomas says she is only just starting to even explain what she experienced. >> she said, she'll be here in a couple minutes. and i was like, what? and all of a sudden, the door opens up, and she just ran and. it was beautiful. just like i imagined it. going together, probably squeezed too hard. >> it was a moment thomas thought would never come. told his nine-year-old daughter

emily had been killed in the october 7th attacks, then that she was believed to be held hostage in gaza. finally, reunited with her family, after 50 days in captivity. free, but visibly haunted by her ordeal. >> it's only when she stepped back a little that i could see her, her face was chiseled like mine, chubby, girly. a young kid. the most shocking, disturbing part of meeting her was she was just whispering. i couldn't hear. i had to put my ear on her lips, this close. and i said, what did you say? i thought you were kidnapped. >> she said i thought you were

kidnapped? >> she thought i was in captivity. >> and what has she told you about what she's gone through? >> i thought she was in the tunnels. she wasn't in the tunnels, they were actually fleeing from house to house. she doesn't like it to be referred to as gaza, she says the box. so you have to say like how long were you in the box? she said a year. apart from the whispering, that was like a punch in the gut. >> there is that one photograph, right after your reunion. and you're holding her, and there is this sort of seriousness to her facial expression. >> yes, she is almost staring,

isn't she? a little bit of a disconnect, with everything going on around her. >> has she cried? >> yes. last night, she cried until her face was right and blotchy. she couldn't stop. she didn't want any comfort, i guess she's forgotten how to be comforted. i just had to wait until she came out of it, by yourself. she has to do that, she's a very determined little girl. very strong. and her spirit would get her through it. >> there have been glimpses of the old emily. her first request, to listen to beyoncé, and play with a family dog. many moments opan thomas was forced to break the news to her that his ex-wife had been killed.

does emily understand what happened on october 7th? >> yes. yes, unfortunately she does. how do you tell her your second mom is dead? killed, shot? when we got back to the hospital, i asked the psychiatrist, what should i do? he said, you've just got to tell her straight. it's the best way. okay. that was very hard, because we told her, and her little eyes glazed up and she took a sharp breath. a terrible thing to tell a girl. they recommend that you have to close the book. it sounds cruel, but you have to stop the hope.

you've got to stop that, it has to be final. she's dead. >> and so, what is the next step now? how long do you stay here, how do you start a new life? >> the future is obviously to get emily back to health. and we will do that along the way. but the next thing along the way is that we have to get all the children, obviously, all the women, all the men, all the hostages have to come back. they have to be brought back. >> clarissa ward, thank you so much. that was just gut-wrenching. you guys know that i have a nine year old daughter, and the entire time and listening to that i'm thinking about what that must have been like, and what the nine year old little girls mind is like right now.

do you think that she's been gone for 50 days, believing that it was now a year. not being able to accept comfort, learning that her father had not been in captivity, but she is seeing him now, this disconnect. i mean, when we look at the release and return of these hostages, i know i'm keeping them in mind, and i know that many of you are as well, about the road that must be ahead for these families, who think they're going to be receiving who left 50 days ago. and perhaps, the innocence that pure innocence is not coming back. and it is devastating to think about. and i'm not sure at times how you can put one foot in front of the other, but as my mother always tells me, life must go on. i forget sometimes just why.

up next, another cnn exclusive. liz cheney blasting her republican colleagues and revealing their conversations about donald trump. including why kevin mccarthy made that infamous trip to mar-a-lago. her fellow republican on the january 6th committee is going to join me live, plus a major moment in the 2024 race tonight. the influential and well funded network, they had back someone, and it's nikki haley. in the attempt to take donald trump down in the primaries. jonathan carl is here.

she witnessed it white up close. cnn's new and exclusive details from liz cheney's new book, entitled and it's due out cnn got a hold of a copy. >> cheney's chronicles various episodes, how republicans spent every which way to try to appease the former president, donald trump. here to talk about it, former congressman and january six committee member, adam kinzinger. and the reporter who broke this cnn exclusive, special correspondent jamie gangel.

i'm so glad that you are here i want to take the book out of your hands, i want to read it cover to cover. i will hold it right here for a second. she helped did not held back in this book at all. tell me about it. >> absolutely liz cheney is painting a scathing portrait of her republican colleagues, of the party. for what she calls, she calls them an enabler's, collaborators. she says, they appeased him. she talks about their cowardice, i just want to read you a couple quotes from the book. she says quote, donald trump cannot succeed alone and they are enabling him. i think what's important is, she has the receipts. she names names. the book is based on text messages, emails, personal conversations, meetings and it is really filled with

revelations about what was going on behind the scenes. so she talks about her relationship, her unlikely alliance with nancy pelosi. but here is an extraordinary scene from the book. it is january 6th, it is the gop cloakroom, and republican congressman marc greene of tennessee is signing his name to object to electoral vote. they all know as she writes in the book, that it is a farce. she overhears him say, the following, quote, as he moved down the line sighing's name to the pieces of paper, greene said sheepishly, to no one in particular, the things we do for orange jesus. >> well that is a new nickname, the orange jesus. obviously she's talking about donald trump. -- >> he is talking about donald trump, in public they are supporting, him in private this is you are hearing what they really say. >> in a way we suspected a new

part of that, reporting over the years behind the scenes we talk about something, in front of the cameras. there's also this moment that everyone wondered about, that was one former speaker kevin mccarthy was hoping to become speaker of the house obviously. it was a short-lived venture. his trip to mar-a-lago, in this book talks about liz cheney's question to him as to why he was in this picture, why he went down there. here is the picture we are talking about what does she say? >> first of all, when she saw that picture she saw thought it was a fake. this was just three weeks after january 6th, and he secretly goes down to mar-a-lago, and when he comes back she confronts him. this is the conversation that they have. cheney says, sorry let me get it here -- mar-a-lago, what the cabin? >> kevin mccarthy says, they're really worried trump is not eating. so they asked me to come see him.

cheney, what? you went to mar-a-lago because trump is not eating? mccarthy, yes. he is really depressed. >> seriously jamie? you really can't script this, if this is been an actual show it would've jumped the shark a long time ago. let me bring in here for a second, if you think about these moments let's bring in the former congressman who saw this. is that seriously what his motivation was for going down to mar-a-lago? >> no he was going because in the three weeks between january six, when for 15 minutes, the republicans all said the right thing they condemned the january 6th attack. they said trump was responsible. all of a sudden, kevin mccarthy can't raise money anymore. kevin mccarthy wants to be speaker of the house. and i am sure congressman kinzinger can speak to this much better than i do, he goes running back to trump because

he thinks he needs trump's help to get money and to become speaker. >> congressman king does or let's bring you in here, you have to wonder knowing what we've all seen how this plays out, was that photograph actually worth it. you lived this both on january six and of course your work on the committee. when you are hearing all of this from the soon to be released book from your fellow congressman and member of that same committee, what is your reaction? >> i mean it's zero surprise on any of this. you asked me was it worth it,? why do i say this, in a similar professionally, if you have nor moral center and your whole goals just to attain some kind of a position, which is kevin mccarthy, then yes it was worth it. he became speaker. he will lead forever known as speaker kevin mccarthy. was it worth it for the country? was it one up for the cost to your own personal soul i guess?

i don't think so. because look, it is funny because as jamie is talking about him saying, he is not eating. the idea of kevin going down there in feeding donald trump, is just blows me away. >> i'm too visual for that, please. to not for that image right now i can't. -- >> secondly i know kevin well i consider him saying, because what kevin does every time we talked to, he takes your side. so one lines call anything since gonna be to say he's depressed and not eating to live lives. like liz is going to care. to me it was basically, well you know, i was down there fundraising in the vital me over. you're not going to say no to the former president. i'm sure the freedom club members called him he was like, oh yes i am all in on donald trump. there is no core to him. the reality is, the speakers race had been four years away,

you would've seen kevin mccarthy do something different. he could've thought about it and said over four years and able to take on this trump base kind of get the party back to quote unquote, normal. instead, and he is right, he could not have done that in two years. he had to make a decision for the country over for the title of speaker. i have to tell you, history will judge that kevin mccarthy, i said this since the day it happen, kevin mccarthy is the guy, the guy that resurrected donald trump. >> wow. you and liz cheney, you both want to turn the party to a different future, likely for that very reason. the resurrection so to speak of what was the name of one of the members? the orange jesus i think it was? we are seeing some high donors try to do the same things, with the koch brothers. they are backing nikki haley not trump. we are gonna talk about more in my next segment. do you think this influx of cash to different candidates, will make a difference and

suppress that so-called resurrection? >> well look, it makes a difference, anything is just momentum. giving people permission right now, and this is what's weird when you have kind of the call structure that exist in the gop around donald trump. listen stories about hearing people say something different, have people come up to be on the floor and tell me thank you for doing january six committee stuff, and then saying i can't do it because of my district. and i am like, have you seen my district? all of these things give permission structure to walk away. we are kind of at that point, trump has to lose a lot to lose a primary so let's be clear. it is probably smart money and donald trump gets it. you look at nikki haley, you look at chris christie surging in new hampshire. i think there is a possibility, especially if donald trump ends up going to trial in the spring that it is someone else. but again, if i was a vegas playing vegas odds i wouldn't

put any money on that. >> jamie, the cook team has what 70 million dollar war chest? i don't know about smart money but it is a lot money. i want to ask you about the title, it's called both an honor, i'm gonna steal this from you i'm not giving a back story about that. it's a memoir and a warning. don't spoil it for me, or the audience, but what is the nature of the warning? >> i think this is taking liz cheney has said, that donald trump is the most dangerous person to have ever been in the oval office. she can codes the book, i'm not giving it away there is more. with really a chilling warning, that is, that if he's allowed to be president again, the checks and balances of our country will not hold this time. there will not be any guardrails, it is really a call to action, not just republicans democrats, independents and republicans, to come together

and make sure he is never president again. >> i'm gonna flip to the pages and figure out, adam kinzinger, jamie gangel i'm gonna see if there is a announcement from the former congressman liz cheney, but i'm curious to see. if she have someone else in mind to run, if it has her own last name. thank you both of you, for joining me tonight. >> now as i mentioned, new signs that influential republicans are putting their money where their mouths are, we are looking for possible alternatives to trump. nikki haley getting a huge endorsement from a key republican group today, jonathan carl joins me next.

money money money. it is what every presidential candidate wants. shut out to alabama by the way. what one of them is getting here, just in time for christmas and stretch run to the early voting states. nikki haley, today picking up one of the most significant endorsements of the campaign so far. the coke backed americans for prosperity announced today it is going to support healy's bid to stop donald trump but. >> joining me now abc's chief washington correspondent, jonathan carl he's author of the new york times bestselling tired of winning. donald trump and the end of the ground old party. >> jonathan car so nice to see you tonight thanks for stopping by there is a lot to talk about with you in that particular, but let's deal with the soundbite i have because you've got to hear this snippet from

americans for prosperity, that of course the coke back group now endorsing one nikki haley listen. >> joe biden and donald trump had their chance, they can't fix what is broken. america, with the right leaders we face diversity and risen to victory. now it is our time to turn the page and choose a new leader, nikki haley. a true fiscal conservative, a positive vision for the future. >> i will set aside the obvious goonie's comparison with it's our time. i use it my time for in college for a campaign i was running. that is the message right now, they have their time. both the candidates are relics, will this be persuasive to this new set of voters? >> i don't know, but there is the significant thing here happening. americans for prosperity, which is charles koch group. it is the coke network.

it has a lot of money behind it, as of june of this year the most recent numbers they raise $70 million you can be sure it's an order magnitude greater than that - they are now saying they will spend heavily to defeat donald trump - in the republican party they are backing nikki haley as they believe having the best chance. they are said they are doing it because they have done extensive research, in the early primary states and they believe that there is a significant majority of the republican primary electorate, that is either open to or wants unadulterated of donald trump. it doesn't look that way when you look at the polls, you've got this you lead. but his lead is less than the early primary states, we will see what happens now. they're gonna go in, not just advertising but they've got a grassroots network. we will see how it plays out. remember the koch did not engage in 2016 or any other

prize the general primary, this is the first time they have done this. why >> would this effort would be different do you think? >> they stayed out of it. i had an interview with charles koch as the primaries were wrapping up, trump had instantly claimed if not it was before the convention he hadn't only clinched. it eccentrically clinched it. i went out to wichita, he now almost never does interviews. he told me, during that interview, that the choice between trump and hillary clinton he might well vote for hillary clinton. that's how much he said he despised donald trump. but they waited till too late to express that viewpoint, and they never spent any money against him. now, they claim their free marketers they did this now because they believe they are not throwing their money away. they believe it can make a difference. that is the judgment they have made. there is not a lot of empirical evidence right now that trump is beatable in the republican

primary. but laura, you and i followed these races before iowa and new hampshire have a tendency to surprise. i think it was a big mistakeo tt win obviously. i think it made me mistake now to think that there is no way he could lose a republican primary. >> but i love courses particular, you've got someone named governor ron desantis who thought that he would be a shoe in their, he's got endorsements out of iowa in particular. he's really invested in trying to get the support and be able to be a strong contender. with this endorsement of nikki haley, instead of i might add, governor ron desantis. is this kind of the death knell for his campaign? >> i mean, it certainly doesn't help ron desantis's campaign has been in the slow spiral down, if you go back to pools of a year ago. december of 2022, january of

2023, ron desantis was actually leading in the national polls he had a significantly. there was a wall street journal pulled of december of 2022 that had rhonda scientist with her nearly 20 point lead over donald trump. he has been kind of spiraling down for sometime. >> there is one person who definitely will not be a part of this race, he is the former vice president mike pence. you and your colleagues did some reporting today about what mike pence told the special counsel investigators. the sources say the former vice president described to the attorneys around trump as in their words, cranks. and they push the country toward they called, a constitutional crisis. that he is sure that trump had no evidence of stolen votes. how significant is all of this you've got jack smith and the special counts are hot on atrial? >> this is almost certainly going to be the actually trial, the trial date in this federal

election interference case is set for early march, it shows first of all pence is put all the cars on the table in sworn testimony before jack smith. and that he will do that in a public trial, he will be on the witness sound. >> you think so? >> i think so, he has said much of this before but there were a couple of things that were new in here. and one of them is, they have is contemporary nunes notes, he took notes throughout this period. they got those notes from the national archives, they questioned according to our sources, they questioned pence about a particular set of notes where pence in late december wrote that he had decided, not to preside over the elector count on january six. too many questions, too many issues. i don't want to hurt my friend. these are notes that pence wrote to himself, obviously ultimately changed his mind and

presided over january six. it is a window into the intense pressure that he was under, that he was actually thinking of skipping it. but vice presidents have been presiding over the electoral count since thomas jefferson did in 1801, there have been a couple occasions where they didn't. this is extremely rare, and he was under so much pressure that he was thinking of just turning it over to truck grassley, and not doing it. >> jonathan carl, thank you so much. nice talking to you. >> thank you laura great talking to you. >> there is new defiant tonight from embattled republican congressman george santos. i will speak with a house democrat who just filed a motion to expel him. that is next.

a house divided as republicans

try to solve their george santos problem tonight the house speaker encourage the embattled congressman to considered resigning, it said in forcing his colleagues to vote on a resolution to expel him. if the resolution was filed today by democratic congressman robert could screen, from california he will join me in just a moment. not everyone is in support of ousting santos, tonight gop congressman cory emails telling cnn, that he is against expulsion calling it a, slippery slope without due process. >> joining me now is democratic congressman, robert garcia. congressman thank you for joining me this evening. what a night. the house now has two days to take up and vote on your motion, do you have enough republican votes? i think we really do, i think that republicans and democrats are reunited in ensuring restoring to the house. when we saw this resolution nine months ago, when

republicans started to save santos known, they made the decision to have the ethics invent investigation, it is done now. he is clearly violated so much of his oath, and still has to face the 32 counts. we're gonna expel in this week, it is time for george santos to go. time to bring the focus on his skates in the future. >> you mentioned the idea of a republican saving him before they would tell you that the reason they did not want to support it because of a potential slippery slope, the idea of expulsion without due process, or a conviction, now of course you do have that receipts laden ethics report. is that gonna be enough you think to push those who are otherwise skeptical of getting them over the edge to say, enough is enough? >> look, he has defrauded the taxpayers. he's defrauded the campaign donors, he's lied on his forms. he's fabricated his entire life story, he is taken donations, and spent them at fare gonell, and for botox. and at sophora. if you can exploit a member of

congress for the crimes in the dishonesty that he is done, what do we have an expulsion process for? it is time for george santos to be expelled from this body, i think we're gonna have a united democratic caucus on board. and i think you're gonna have a vast group of republicans, hopefully majority also with the expulsion. i'll say this also, the speaker, mike johnson should come out and strongly support this expulsion, it is time for them to do the right thing. he >> recently said it remains to be seen whether that will happen this week, but george santos the congressman, at least for now, it is going after this report. he's calling it slanderous. he also by the way, went after's own house colleagues listen what he had to say. >> they all act like they are on ivory towers with white pointy hats, and they are untouchable. within the ranks of the united states congress, there is felons galore, there is people

with all sorts of schleifstein background, all of a sudden george santos is the mary mcgillan of united states congress, i'm not running for reelection, not because this is a damning reports, i don't want to work with a bunch of hypocrites. it is gross. i have colleagues who are more worried about getting drunk every night with the next lobbyist that they're gonna screw, and pretend like none of us know what is going on. and sell-off the american people, not show up to vote because they're too hung over or whatever the reason is. >> i mean, on the one hand is reason is for saying it is very convenient, on the other hand he is into meeting a lot of different details, do you read is comments to think he might be exposing the allegations, he seems to be saying now? >> i mean look, he is obviously talking about himself as well. this is someone that has done nothing about lie to everyone,

could fabricate his entire life story. george santos is not in reality right now. he's gotta be serious and take this moment seriously, and focus on what is actually happened, it is going to be excelled from the u.s. house. he is a very serious, 32 count indictment and criminal case in front of him. we should put as all of his energy there. if he was doing the right thing, he would resign tonight. george santos should resign tonight, he should apologize to the american people, he should apologize to his constituents, if he doesn't do so he's gonna get expelled this week. >> will a democratic seat? >> i we will see. i hope so, that is a seat that is democratic-leaning, there will be an election then we'll see what happens out of that. important thing is to focus on san jose, and all of his lies and ethics that came out against him. >> we will see what happens, democratic congressman robert garcia of california, thank you so much.

>> thank you. >> well hunter biden telling house republicans, he will answer questions in the long running investigation into his behavior. there is a catch, i will tell you what it is next.

the president's son, who was under investigation led by republicans of the house oversight committee, said he was willing to testify on capitol hill, answer all the lawmakers questions potentially. he has one stipulation. it must be public, and not

behind closed doors. jamil jaffer is the former associate white house counsel to president george w. bush and the founder of the national security institute at george mason university. to me all that is quite a caveat, why i can't blame him, i'm sure he wants to have it out in the open. so no one can twist what he says until their own version in front of a podium. >> this is a hard one because house republicans saying this an investigation, we have a desperation, we have to hear what you have to say first. and biden says you want to hear what i have to say, we will do it in plug. it lets double down. >> they are saying they don't want this to happen, they say no we want this behind closed doors. you -- say you want him to answer questions fine, khiry is. what would be the reason they would want to say let's first have it behind closed doors, then you can talk openly? >> that is what's on the table, this is like an investigation when your rotten know what's going, on if there is something they're there, and then we'll have a trial and a hearing whatever. by the way, now i've got in the record if you say anything different i can impeach you

with the deposition of got in front of me. standard investigation, not typical for congress out of the investigative, hunter biden making a smart political move and saying hey, you want to hear from me let's do it in public. let the american people judge. hunter biden given what we know about him, may not be the best witness for himself. maybe they should calm and calm both and say let's do it see how it goes. >> it really is a game of chicken in a way, when you talk about this not being unlike what happens in a litigation, you have a deposition, then a trial of got a grand jury behind closed doors and then open trial for the impeachment, about two credibility. do you think he's like under donald trump, in that he'd be's own worst enemy? trump can't be contained in many ways and want to be the person to advocate. hunter biden knows or perhaps he had a shorter leash maybe. >> maybe, this is a guy who did all sorts of crazy things, using all sorts of crazy drugs. he's clearly not in a good place. so republicans might say hey

look, let's take our chances bring in front of the american public, ask him some hard questions. and see how this thing goes. it's a high risk play, but maybe you want to go far. >> ah high-risk play, someone who's talked about his battle with addiction. but in no terms are aware that he's currently somebody was using, that is actually a part of the topic. a nature of the most recent charges about taking a box and being a gun owner. if that will actually be played. that might be why he's so vocal and saying i'm calling your bluff, you want to hear from me bring it on. >> i'm clean and sober let's have it. >> i wonder what will ultimately take place here. washington d.c. sometimes they just can't take yes for an answer. jim eel jaffer thank you so much, and just into cnn. new reporting that officials in doha, are in consensus they want to work to extend the current pause with the israel-hamas war, to get more hostages out of gaza. we'll have more on that next.

well the truce between israel and hamas be extended? what that means for the hostages that are