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of "cnn news central." wolf blitzer is live in tel aviv, israel for us. it is now the sixth day of the israel-hamas truce. a pause that is expected to last only a few more hours. what are the chances it will be extended? more hostages are set to be handed over by hamas. and sources say that includes at least one american. >> as this exchange plays out today, there is a full-court press underway to extend the truce yet again perhaps to include the release of adult male hostages, which is a major sticking point at this point. the top white house hostage envoy is in israel. this is very important to note. and officials from qatar, the key mediator in all of this, are optimistic. >> reporter: there are still 161
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hostages believed to be in gaza right now. the red cross was supposed to be able to visit them by the end of the fourth day of this temporary truce. sources tell cnn, those visits still have not happened. that would be a clear violation of the current agreement. i want to bring in our reporters with me here in tel aviv. ivan watson is joining us from beirut. what is the plan of the hostage release? >> reporter: first we're seeing reports the transfer has begun inside of gaza. not certain yet. we'll keep an eye on it but crucially, it is moving forward. we haven't seen the same sorts of delays and road blocks on the way to yesterday's exchange. so we expect it will officially begin here shortly for ten israeli women and children. i'll make one more point. that the israeli military said a short time ago in a statement that two hostages, israeli hostages, were handed over to the red cross. they're in addition to the ten, women and children. so we're waiting for more details on that.
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the process of those two has already begun and we expect the process for the ten others to begin soon as well. >> it was sad. hamas claimed today that the youngest hostage, 10-month-old, his 4-year-old brother, their mother, that they're all dead. has israel confirmed this yet? >> not yet. we'll deal with this very carefully because it is a very sensitive and delicate story. the idf says they're looking into and assessing the claims made by hamas's military wings that the youngest hostage in hamas captivity, his 4-year-old brother, and their mother were killed in an israeli strike. the hamas statement gave no information about where or when that strike was. it offered no evidence at all. crucially, it came out in the sixth day of a truce. israel hasn't struck gaza since friday in any significant fashion so there's no information about when or how this happened. the idf says they have been in touch with the family and they
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hold hamas ultimately responsible for anything that happened. not only to this family but to all the families calling for the release of all the hostages. we also got a statement from the family. they say, our family has learned of hamas's latest claims. we are waiting for the information to be confirmed and hopefully refuted by military officials. we thank the people of israel for their warm support but kindly almost privacy during this difficult time. thank you very much. crucially, as we wait for more information, we don't have to say this. it is obvious. it is an incredibly sensitive and difficult time for the family and all the other families who still have loved ones in captivity in gaza. >> so many of these heartbreaking stories. it is hard to digest. you and i have been trying to appreciate what's going on. it is a really awful, awful situation. as far as the negotiations to extend this temporary truce for at least a few more days, where do things stand right now? >> ongoing. we got confirmation from senior
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israeli officials that they're looking at the possibility of extending the truce longer. that was the first we heard from israel that was happening. they are looking at extending it 24 to 48 hours. hamas has expressed willingness to do this. the possibility is there. israel and hamas haven't confirmed that it will happen but it is unlikely you would see israel acknowledge that until after they see the release of hostages tonight. the u.s. is obviously applying pressure here. secretary of state antony blinken said it. it is important to keep this froos going as long as possible. would it offer a few things. first the humanitarian aid to continue to flow into gaza. second, the release of more israeli hostages, women and children, and third, the release of more palestinian women and children from israeli prisons. at some point this runs into a cold hard math problem. there are only so many women and children left to release. at that point, what happens? either the fighting resume as israel has promised that it will, or you need another part
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of the agreement or another form of a framework to allow for the release of elderly men who are held hostage in gaza, or the soldiers there. the women and men there. that may require more negotiations, and keep in mind how many weeks it took just to get to the first part of this agreement. we're watching all these movements. >> it is really a sensitive moment. thank you very much. ivan watson is in beirut watching all this unfold. give us a sense of this race against the clock right now from your perspective. what are you learning? where do things stand? >> reporter: let's turn to the qatari government. they have said if there's an extension, it will follow the same provisions of the troops we've seen over the last six days. in other words, what oren was talking about. allowing for exchange of women and children who are currently hamas hostages, hostages of
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other factions in gaza for palestinian women and children currently in israeli jails. the adviser to the qatari prime minister spoke to our own kaitlan collins. take a listen to what he had to say about this. >> it is an ongoing negotiation. i can't comment on the details of what is happening in the negotiating room at the moment. but it is happening in a positive environment and we hope we are able to announce something positive by the end of the day. >> reporter: now the next part of this would be potentially broadening the categories of prisoners of hostages that could be exchanged. that is something we're hearing bill byrnes who is in the region, that he's been involved in. that is trying to look at the possibility of exchanging some of the men who are hostages of hamas and the other palestinian
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factions, exchanging them form palestinian men. and then potentially for military hostages as well. so this is a separate set of instructions. also the possibility of trying to return the bodies of hostages that have died in gaza to get them out. all of this again so did he go cat right now. as we've seen, there have been road blocks that have emerged over the course of the six-day truce. >> if an agreement doesn't materialize in the coming hours, and we all hope there is an agreement to extend the truce, what would begin to happen on the ground? what could it look like when military operations resume? >> reporter: well, i think it would look a lot like it did before six days ago. potentially, much, much worse.
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as oren has pointed out, the israeli government has made it clear. it wants to destroy hamas in gaza. and as part of six and a half weeks of fighting there, the death toll, according to the palestinians has been more than 14,800 palestinians killed. so if the fighting resumes again, that slaughter of palestinian civilians will likely resume again. it will be complicated by the fact that 1.2 million of those palestinians in gaza have been displaced due to bad sanitation, sewage, and destroyed infrastructure. many of them are suffering, the world health organization, that may kill, they say, more people than the actual fighting will kill. and all of these military operations, of course, in retaliation for the initial hamas slaughter of more than 1,200 people on october 7th. wolf? >> that's why it is so important
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to extend this temporary truce and allow more hostages to leave, to delay any israeli military action. to allow more humanitarian aid to get into gaza at the same time. lots at stake right now. thanks, ivan. as we wait to learn whether the troops will once again be extended, anxiety continues to grow for the families of the hostages who have not yet been released. clearly. this is a very delicate moment. one of those still missing, she was kidnapped at the music festival in israel just outside of gaza back on october 7th. she was shot in the hand. her friend sadly was murdered. as the carnage unfolded that day, she called her sister. joining us now is her sister. thank you so much for joining us. talk to us about the last time
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you actually spoke with your sister? >> so first of all, thank you for inviting me and i appreciate it a lot. the last time that i spoke with my sister was october 7th morning from 6:30 a.m. until something about 10:00 a.m. it was on and off with me and my mom. and my mother got the last phone call from her. most of the conversation that she had with me was about what is she going to do. first it was about the rockets and the missiles flying around like rain on them and they didn't know, they didn't have a place to hide because it is an open air festival. then it was screaming, shooting around, and people were terrified, panicking.
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romi was acting, i don't know. she was terrified and she was hiding inside a bush for two hours. and she heard and saw all the terrorists, the hamas terrorists around her. she even told me to be quiet on the phone and to not speak so they wouldn't hear me on the phone. the last time i heard her voice was a very hopeful one. this is what i keep in my heart. she called my parents. each and every one of them separately. said that ben, may she rest in peace, picked them up and they're heading home. i call her immediately and she was freaking out saying that she is so panicking but everything is okay because he knows the road. we even spoke about, i don't know. regular stuff. what is she going to do? her key was left behind her and she doesn't have the key to enter her apartment. i was calming her down and said
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everything will be okay and soon enough she will be with my mom and come home and we can take care of anything else afterward. it was a conversation, ten minutes after, my mom got a phone call from her saying that she got shot and ben was murdered, and others also, wounded pretty badly and she herself, she have a gunshot on her hand and her hand couldn't function. >> since that last exchange you were just talking about, yarden, have you heard anything about the status or condition of your sister in the weeks since she was kidnapped? >> unfortunately, no. maybe it will happen in the next few days. but it's not enough. because i haven't heard from her for 54 days.
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54 days that my sister is held by hamas isis. the ones that, you know, did all that slaughtering, the raping, murdering, all these horrors that nobody can imagine even that it is real. that it has actually happened. and i don't know even if she has her hand or not. maybe she's cut off. maybe she's not alive. and i can't stress how much the unknowing is painful. truly painful in our bodies. being so strong because we know she is -- >> i spoke with your mother -- >> she's strong, you know -- >> she's a very strong woman indeed. what gives your family strength to deal with this horrible, horrible situation?
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>> first of all, if you're seeing my sister's picture right now, you can see her amazing smile. it is really radiating outside of the posters. and we know she is strong. so we have to stay strong for her. we can't afford to think otherwise. we're a big family. we really unite to that cause to get her home. and fortunately, we have also many friends that take care of us. we have our new family, unfortunately. all the families of the other kidnapped from the festival, from their homes, and also, all the civilians in israel are amazing. the forum of the families holding us up and everyone in international places. we get so much strength and
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believe and hope and we try to stick on that. unfortunately, it's not enough. until she's here, i don't feel safe. i don't feel truly whole. and i can't wait to see her and everyone else sooner than later. she's injured. she's not the only one that's injured. we know that they don't give good enough treatment to the ones over there. we saw how a person came back from captivity. it is very, very hard neglect. and i'm afraid. i really do afraid for my little sister. there is so many that she can take. >> we hope you and your sister are reunited soon with your entire family and that she's okay. yarden gonen, thank you for joining us. good luck to you and good luck to the family. coming up, these are live
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back in the united states week, getting a look at a devastating takedown. cheney paints a scathing picture of the leaders calling them enablers and cowards in the days following the 2020 election. >> she writes so strong is the lure of power that men and women who had once seemed reasonable and responsible were suddenly willing to violate their oath to the constitution out of political exteed yency and loyalty to donald trump.
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ron brownstein is here to talk about this. liz cheney writes about how then minority leader kevin mccarthy spoke to trump right after the election. that trump acknowledged to mccarthy that he lost. mccarthy said, earnings it's over. he needs to go through all the stages of grief. how much of a revelation is that to you? >> an enormous revelation. out of the disclosures in the cnn piece about the book, the prosecutors are looking at trump both in the federal prosecutor, looking at his role in trying to overturn the 2020 election are looking at his frame of mind. i don't know if cheney's specific admission is admissible because it's a third party communication. it certainly puts a bull's-eye on kevin mccarthy and what he heard directly from trump that he knew he lost before he undertook all his efforts to overturn the election. it puts into stark relief what
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congressional republicans did. so many of them joining the mike johnson lawsuit to overturn the results. voting to overturn the results when their leader knew directly from president trump in the immediate aftermath of the election that it was all based, all fundamentally rooted in a lie. >> you mentioned the legal effort by mike johnson who is now the house speaker to try to drum up support to get the supreme court to toss out the 2020 election. cheney specifically writes about him saying, quote, when i confronted him with the flaws in his legal arguments, johnson would often concede or say something to the effect of, we just need to do this one last thing for trump. with hindsight, we know trump didn't go away. he stands far and away the leading candidate for the gop nomination. do you think these revelations from cheney are enough to move primary voters? >> i don't think this will have an impact in terms of the republican primary. we already know the breakdown, the share of republicans who
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essentially believed the lie that the election was stolen. the implications of what she's revealing there are incredibly profound for 2024 and 2025. i think that one of the key messages that comes out of, we know about this book so far, is that it underscores the willingness of a broad range of republicans to participate in an effort to overturn the election despite, as i am, their leader knowing from the outset, from the horse's mouth, that it was all based on a falsehood. that has big implications for 2025. i don't think the republicans will count nance another full-scale attack on the capitol but this does raise the issue of how far they would go again if they are in control of the house when votes have to be certified in january 2025 to support efforts by trump to overturn the election, particularly if they are in the majority and he is the nominee again. >> it is striking that a lot of
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these leaders are still in power, as you noted. so is the concern then that message isn't going to get to the right ears? that either voters or lawmakers are not going to change their apparently unwavering support for donald trump? >> it's a very different issue. what this means in a primary and what it means in a general election. as i wrote in the atlantic last week, historically, it had the get to 50% approval to be considered likely to win re-election. the variety of reasons with the economy and other factors, they make it very hard for biden to reach the historic threshhold which means that in order for him to win re-election, running against trump, he will have to get people to believe he's dissatisfied that the alternative is even worse. and i think liz cheney is showing what a powerful asset she can be. she's making the case that trump is simply unacceptable. an existential threat to
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american democracy as we have known it. it may not be a huge number of republican primary voters who will accept that message but the issue for joe biden would be, are there four or five points of general election voters who are dissatisfied with the economy? or disenchanted with his performance or thinking is too old, as in 2022, will vote for democrats anyway because they view the trump alternative is too extreme. and it this book gives you a preview of the kind of fire power that liz cheney can bring, perhaps with some other former first term trump officials like john kelly and mark esper, potentially. so i think this gives you an idea of what a player on the board she might be in 2024 and what will be a crucial effort for biden to win some voter who are not wowed by his record over his four years. >> so many outspoken people who worked for him. at one point supported him. thank you for talking about this with us.
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holding out hopes that israel and hamas will agree to extend the temporary truce so critical aid can keep coming into gaza. so important. the world health organization is warning that disease is spreading among displaced gazans due to an overcrowding and lack of medicine, sanitation, and basic hygiene. julia is the communications director for the united nations relief agency. she joins us from jordan. julia, thank you for joining us. tell us how much of an impact the current aid coming into gaza over the last several days, that the truce has been in effect is having on the people in gaza? >> a very good impact. is it enough? by far not enough. if we look at the numbers of trucks that used to come in every day before the war started into gaza, they were 500. now we are much, much less than
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that. so it is significant. it is a good breakthrough. we managed to get some trucks there with our teams. we went to deliver this assistance and went to check in on our facilities. remarkable that it continues to be in places like that despite 50 plus years of war. but much more is needed including for the private sector to restart the markets in gaza. >> as you know, the world health organization has spoken about the alarming and escalating rate of disease in gaza right now. tell our viewers what you, what you're seeing? >> i was there myself just a few days ago. and you could see in one of the shelters i visited, people were literally on top of each other.
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there was not much clean water. there was no cleaning supplies. it was very, very overcrowded. there's not much food around. people were forced to sleep on the floor. many were still wearing their sandals because when they moved to the south of the gaza strip, the weather was so much better. now it is getting colder. it is raining, it is muddy. the sewage is flowing. it is only a matter of time that'll diseases will start spreading further. >> as you know, today is supposed to be the last day of the temporary truce. if it is not extended, what will the u.n. and other relief groups be able to do next? how can aid groups best ensure the flow of desperately needed humanitarian goods into gaza? if the fighting were to resume? >> first for most, we really, really are following very closely and very anxiously over
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the coming hours. we hope that this does extend. what it really is meant for people in gaza is that it brought them some respite after nearly 50 plus, 50 days of war. so that's really, it was a relief for many people in gaza including our own. but we are certainly very worried that if it does not extend, the airstrikes and the bombardments resume, that we will go back to square zero where we'll be very limited with what we can do. we're not sure what is the fate of these aid convoys coming into gaza. whether we'll be able to get fuel, which we have been receiving over the last few days. cooking gas, as an example.
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we really hope that pause extends and it translates at some point to humanitarian cease-fire as well. >> let's hope the temporary truce continues. humanitarian aid can continue to come into gaza and more hostages will be released. juliette, thank you for joining us. still ahead, i'll bring you part of my conversation with mansour abbas, a key member r o the isisraeli knesesset, the parliamement.
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after a u.s. military aircraft crashed overnight. it was carrying eight people when it crashed offer the coast of japan. our reporter is tracking there for us. what are you learning? >> reporter: we're still awaiting a lot of details of exactly what happened here. we know that there were eight people aboard this osprey that was conducting routine training exercises off the coast of japan when it suffered what the air force special operations command is calling an aircraft mishap. japanese authorities are reporting that at least one person was killed, the u.s. military at this point is not confirming any deaths. they say search and rescue operations are underway and that the status of the crew remains unknown. what we do know is that this is just the latest in a long string of aircraft mishaps involving the osprey. the osprey is a really commonly used military aircraft. it's kind of claim to fame is that it can both take off and land like a helicopter. it can also fly across the ground like a regular old fixed
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wing aircraft. it is a people and stuff mover. the united states military has hundreds of these things. but there have been three deadly accidents just in the last two years involving the osprey. so increased scrutiny, i think, of the safety of this particular aircraft. >> and one just this summer. >> yes. in august there was an accident in australia that killed three u.s. marines and 22 others. in 2022, five were killed in a crash in california. and also during nato exercises in norway. all on osprey accidents. >> a lot of questions to be asked in the wake of this. thank you very much for the latest. one of republican senator tommy tuberville's, senator dan sullivan, a fellow republican and colonel in the u.s. marine corps reserves confirms there's been progress on the ten-month
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hold preventing officers from being promoted. >> reporter: these talks have been ongoing for about a day. this all started in the republican senate lunch yesterday where multiple lawmakers who came out of that meeting told me and my colleague manu raju that they were more optimistic than they had been until this point that senator tuberville might be willing to break his months-long hold over military promotions. in the current structure of what they're discussing, senator dan sullivan told our colleagues that they are looking at potentially an idea in which tuberville would release holds on military officers at a three star or below. that means only four star officers and above would still be held up by this process. but that would release a large number of these holds. it is not clear yet if tuberville will support this
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idea. this has been going on for ten months now. there are more than 450 military officials who are being held up by these holds. you've heard arguments from democrats and republicans alike that this is having an effect on military readyness. you've seen senate republicans put pressure on senator tuberville to try to release these holds. obviously at love questions remain about whether or not tuberville would be open to that idea and what happens if he's not? >> a rare bipartisan agreement in their criticism of this blockade. thank you so much. we still have much more news ahead. we're back in just a moment.
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earlier today, i drove out to north of tel aviv to speak with a palestinian citizen of israel. he leads the united arab party and a key member of the knesset. here's part of our interview. did israel go too far in its military response to hamas? because as you correctly point out, thousands of innocent palestinians in gaza were killed and injured in the course of the israeli military action. strikes, the ground operations. did israel go too far?
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>> translator: looking at the israeli response, it is cheer that the response happened due to what happened on october 7th. about 1,200 people were killed. the vast majority of them civilians. we saw a very harsh response duty to the horror that's israel saw on october 7th. but it's important to mention that the use of force, and this is why we saw the use of force in that drastic numbers that affected palestinian civilians and brought to the death of a lot of palestinians, innocent people. it is important to say the use of power and it didn't work to protect the israeli citizens living along the gaza strip.
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they were attacked regardless of israel's military power. at the same time the military power hamas tried to exert has not brought any achievements to the palestinian people. both sides need to realize, the use of power on both sides have not led to any successes or improvements to the situation. >> the only thing that's happening is we're breeding more and more hate on both sides. >> let me ask you about the increased israeli settler violence against palestinians on the west bank. is the israeli government doing enough and the israeli military doing enough to stop this and prevent this from continuing? >> translator: unfortunately the israeli government and army need to do a lot more in order to prevent accelerations in the west bank. it's in the israeli interest.
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having accelerations bring more for israel to deal with. we see the responsible and courageous actions by the p.a. and by the palestinian president in preventing escalations from happening in the west bank. with the calming of the situation, continued military cooperation with the army and acting responsibly in order to prevent a clash from happening there. even though, if we look at the past few years, the israeli prime minister netanyahu, has always tried to prevent and weaken the palestinian authority and weaken the position to create ill legitimacy. we see now the trprove that the president is still strong and taken steps to prevent escalations. he needs to be strengthened more because this is the path that will lead to challenges in this reality through the p.a. and
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through the current position to prevent escalations and hostility and from them to take the next step and discuss peaceful resolutions. we've been talking about these resolutions and have not steered away from that vision and it needs to be supported. >> it was shocking the other day when three palestinian students who were visiting the united states, they were in vermont, three palestinian students just walking around burlington, vermont, wearing keffiyehs speaking arabic and english and they were shot and fortunately not killed. one of them is in very serious condition. they came from the west bank to vermont. what was your reaction when you heard about this? >> translator: unfortunately this conflict expand beyond the
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limits of our region. we see the effect of it on the united states, on europe and other parts of the world. we see that it's taken a violent approach as well. from here i would say that my call for everyone in the world who is supporting both sides, supporting the israeli side or supporting the palestinian people, your support is important and it needs to be directed towards ending the conflict, to bring messages of peace, messages of mutual understanding and respect. in order for these messages to arrive to us here because we need to start working on acceptance and that's the first step we need to do here is acceptance, mutual respect and cooperation and that message needs to be reverberated across the world in order to see these changes that we called for. it doesn't matter if somebody is
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wearing a keffiyeh. we need to respect everyone in the same way and we need to condemn any action of violence and we cannot support anyone who uses violence to reach their means, but the west has a role in pushing for peace in this line. >> is a two-state solution, israel living alongside a new state of palestine, still possible? >> translator: i believe the only solution we can ever think of, especially now, is the two-state solution. that's the only way both sides will get what they aspire for. the palestinian people will get what they've been looking for, an establishment of their own state and the israelis for securing the state they hoped for, a jewish democracy and to achieve their roles, both sides need to accept the other needs
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to be here as well. we need support. we need american support of course. we saw the american actions when the war started, bringing the u.s. carrier to the mediterranean to try and prevent an escalation to a regional con flight. we believe the united states has a role to play also in the diplomatic approach. my suggestion to the administration is to bring a convoy of diplomats that will be here always on the ground working all the time on bringing this conflict to an end and for the two-state solution to be materialized. >> i want to thank mansour abbas for speaking me with today. we'll have much more of this interview later tonight at 6:00 p.m. eastern. we'll have more on the latest developments in the war between israel and hamas that are going
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