you. >> same thing. not only do this with, you gayle. she got out to a court, this is her first shot. we will do our best, that's all we can do. we've got a great cast around us. >> and it all goes according to plan, guess what. king charles, i know we'll be back next wednesday, the question is, will you be back next wednesday? >> we have got a special time next, week right? >> we have got a special time next week because there is a big thing called the debate. 9:00 next time only, after that it will be 10:00. here is a little note. shameless plug. you can catch me tomorrow morning, cbs mornings at 7 am. i'm leaving here and going right to pit. >> i'm not going to bed. i'm not going to. >> should i stop asking you questions? >> yes, you should. abby philip we'll be right here tomorrow night at 10:00. at the, we love you too. don't you go anywhere. laura coates live, we met earlier today, it starts right now.

the truce literally saved lives. and not expire at the strike of men at our time. what will happen if it does? tonight on laura coates live. ♪ ♪ ♪ minutes away from the on. we don't know if the truce has been extended, once or again. and if it doesn't get extended, does that mean the fund will begin again and perhaps how soon the truce between israel and hamas such a expire at 7 am local time, we just might not eastern. our time. a little over 5 to 9 minutes away from right now. and the only thing that -- the names of hostages still to be released, thursday. but way in the meantime have got a lot of unanswered

questions. and these questions, the answer, is there a matter of life [inaudible] but where? and who's got them? is it hamas? or some other group? and for their desperate families, these are the real questions they're asking today. and just a moment, i'll talk to al sean, the a 14-year-old survivor of the massacre on october 7th. imagine what it is she has seen. what she has experienced. at just 14 years old. her father and many other of her closest friends were murdered. she saw her cousin, who turned 16 in captivity, abducted, ordered into a car and driven away. and today, 53 days later he's free. but what about the rest of the hostages? in the midst of all this, hate is fueling a poisonous rise in

antisemitism. jewish men, women, and children are feeling the fear. swastikas on our streets. allegations of and some of the dozen on campuses around the country. uc berkeley, thought to be a bastion of liberalism, they're now being sued over allegations of, quote, unchecked antisemitism. and today, on the senate floor, the majority leader, senator chuck schumer, the highest ranking jewish official and american history, a passionate denunciation, call in the rise and antisemitism, quote, a five alarm fire. and he's warning some of the left, on the list are unknowingly aiding and abetting bigotry. >> after october 7th, jewish americans are feeling singled out, targeted, and isolated. in many ways, we feel alone. not long ago, many of us

marched together for black and brown lives. we stood against anti asian hatred. we protested bigotry against the lgbtq community. we fought for reproductive justice. and of the recognition that injustice against one apprised group is and justice against all. but apparently, mister president, in the eyes of some, this principle does not extend to the jewish people. >> we are going to unpack that more, as well. right now, i want to go right to cnn's ben wedeman who is in jerusalem. , bandwidth been talking about this. we're looking at our clocks. the deadline is now less than an hour away. and hamas has a message for its fighters. what that message tonight? >> reporter: nemours yeah, but before we get to the message, let's talk about what seems to be the problem. what this has not been extended. hamas is saying that they have

given a list of seven hostages, women and children. and the names of three people killed as a result, they say, of israeli bombing and gaza. to the israelis, that was unacceptable. negotiators have been saying they believed that hamas had enough women and children to hand over ten every day for the next 2 to 3 days. but hamas is saying that this is all that hamas, oh the hamas detainees from the same category that was agreed upon. it appears, perhaps, they don't have any more women and children to hand over to the israelis. and as a result, we are just less than an hour away now to the deadline, we are by the truth comes to an end. so hamas has put out, or rather,

the military wing of hamas has put out the following. we ask our active forces to remain on high combat readiness, and the last hours of the truce, in anticipation of renewal of fighting in the event it is not renewed and to remain in position unless official statement is issued confirming the extension of the truce. and of course, that statement has not come yet. we are still waiting. we know that the qataris were the main mediator in this, have been in touch constantly with both sides, with the americans, with the egyptians, trying to work something out. but the clock, as you said, is ticking. and if there is no agreement, israel could very well decide to begin its ground offensive all over again with the grave

consequences for everybody involved. laura? >> ben we, dimmit thank you so much for your reporting tonight. joining me now, cnn military analyst mark hertling and -- taking a step back, for a second, general hertling. the idea that there are saying that they have essentially turned over all of the women and children they had, knowing that the numbers are skewed in terms of who is still outstanding, so to speak, as a hostage, perhaps, and those who are thought to remain there. what does that tell you about who might actually have the remaining hostages? >> there are several organizations within gaza where i would suggest it's probably either the palestine -- palestinian islamic jihad or other terrorist groups within the umbrella portion of hamas. so it just is an indicator that hamas does not have complete

control, or that they are just flat out lie about what they have and what they can give up, as part of this deal with the operational part. >> on that point to, they're telling their forces to be ready to fight. we know israel is poised to fight. does that mean, if the -- were talking about doing it at the instance? >> i would suggest, absolutely, yes. hamas is ready. the statement that been just right is not a surprise to me, laura. i think they knew they had to be ready. they were hoping for a longer, but they also know that israel is chomping at the bit. they want to complete this operational objective, that they have publicly stated, which is to destroy hamas. hamas wants to continue to, basically, attempt to embarrass israel and kill as many jews as possible. both of those strategic objectives are in conflict with

what the united states has proposed, which is to release hostages for as long as possible. trading that action for more time is what has been the objective of hamas, and they're not getting what they want from the israeli government. >> david, this truce is down to that minute -- minutes remaining. you've got barak ravid tweeting this. israeli officials say hamas proposed mediators to release less than ten hostages, or to release hostages that are not women and children. the israeli officials said if hamas does not reduce -- produce a list that includes ten women and children by 7 am local time, the fighting will resume. when you look at this, thinking about the diplomacy at issue, and that negotiations at issue here. what do you think the israelis would turn down an opportunity to get any of the hostages back? even if it didn't mean women and children? >> i think, laura, this is the

most vexing problem, for the israeli government. for the reasons you just heard from general hertling. but also because there is a huge division within israel about whether the number one priority here should be that recurrent or hostages or the number one priority should be the defeat of hamas. and these two strategic objectives have been in tension with each other from the very beginning. and we are now seeing this come to fruition. we always knew that the start of the hostage release difficult as it was would be easier than the end. because if they do resume the hostilities, it's entirely possible you will never see the next hundred and 40 hostages. and that's a key issue for many israelis, what you've seen on

the straits in israel protesting to put the hasse dispersed. and then, of course, you had secretary of state blinken in town, trying to argue for longer and longer pauses. this would actually undo that. >> general, when you think about, that the tension that's been explained by david, and we say this time and time again of a really crude cost-benefit analysis of war. frankly, if fighting does resume, you know that both sides have had a number of days now to regroup. and the question for many looking at this militarily, is, who now has the upperhand? because of the pauses, now. >> i think it's pretty obvious that hamas, any kind of participant and these kinds of operations had the upper hand, if they're on the defensive. because they have just slowed the momentum of the attacking force. they're able to regenerate some of their forces. they have been able to maneuver

undercover and underground, and this subterranean environment, they have more than likely moved the remaining hostages they have control of and they think they can fight the israelis on a bitter floating after the post is over. israel has had this operational pause, which slowed momentum, but it also allowed them to generate some intelligence not only from the normal kind of intelligent capabilities like signal intelligence, human intelligence -- but actually getting some information from the hostages. that has been a very difficult situation, because the hostages have been through a lot of trauma and it's very difficult to draw the kind of information they needed in an operational context, at the same time trying to understand the trauma they have been through and not pushing them too hard. hamas may have the advantage technically, but i think israel has the advantage strategically. there is one other point i

brought up, to, i think the focus has been on northern casa and the undergrad subterrain tunnels -- that's going to shift. because i believe, hamas has used this time, these seven days, to many of their forces undetected, they think, to new areas of operation and they are luring israel and again. again, luck they did during the first phase of their operation in over six weeks. and it will hurt the people of gaza like it did earlier. that's why president biden has and entirely different set of strategic and operational objectives. general hertling, david sanger, important to hear both of your perspectives. thank you so much. 16 more hostages were released by hamas today, with the possible expiration of the truce still limit, minutes away. one of them, 16 year old amit shawnee. his 14-year-old cousin --

is a survivor of the october 7th massacre, and she joins me now. ella, thank you so much for joining me tonight. know your cousin was just released by hamas. your family must have been on and remains on a kind of emotional rollercoaster because he was on an earlier list to be removed to be returned,. but then was removed at the last-minute and not released initially. now he is. what are you feeling tonight? >>,. . . . . >> speaking of the home, and i'm so, we're so thankful we're able to speak with people like yourself who are having the

ending that you're talking about. and to have the joyful return of your loved ones. but what they're returning to, in some instances, is very startling. there is a video up right now all of your home and kibbutz be'eri, it's now destroyed after what happened on or pacific. and you are actually there with a day. when did you first get word that he had survived the attack? >> amit? >> yes. >> i got the message on a temperature difference tonight. his dad called me. he's my uncle. and he told me he's on his way to the hospital. his ex wife and two daughters are okay, and he said amit was taken. that's all we heard on the same day. >> and now have you heard? you did talk to him or we're happy to hear from him?

how is he doing tonight? >> i didn't really get to talk to him. he's not really ready to talk right now. i think he's exhausted. he went through a lot. i can understand that. i had to talk to him, because i personally had to tell him how proud i am of him and how much i miss him and love him. and i wish he'll be back to health soon. >> he was his, did you know if he was physically healthy when he was seen by your relatives? , >> i don't know. they said he looks, i mean, he didn't need urgent medical attention. i don't really know what his condition is. i really hope he's okay. but, he was able to vote to me. i talked about his physical condition is because the picture arsenal of him was for long clothes. so i couldn't really see what his body looked like. and i just really hope he's

okay. >> i share that hope with you as well. he was the only member of your family that was taken by hamas. and i wonder how you have all been dealing with that over the past seven weeks? >> honestly, i've been dealing like only with this. that's the only thing i've been thinking about. with everything that happened, all the people we have lost, i'll be honest. i didn't really think about. it i didn't really warren -- more on the people i lost. of just thought about the people who can still be saved. and he was on my mind all the time, just hoping he'll come back, to him when i can't. that's why i'm here. that's why i'm doing this interview from israel because we need to bring the ones who can't come back. >> ela i shani, thank you so much for joining us. i'm so glad he's home and there are new authors. thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thank, you goodnight.

>> good. not the choice between israel and hamas is set to expire in just under an hour. we are watching the idea tonight. also, the legacy of henry kissinger, who has died at the age of 100. next, his role in the middle east and in shape and foreign affairs. fareed zakaria weighs in.

breaking news. former secretary of state henry kissinger has died at the age of 100, according to his consulting firm, kissinger associates. president richard nixon appointed him national security advisor in 1969 and letter secretary of state. kissinger was vital and open it communist china to the united states.

the end of the yom kippur war in the middle east. and helping to bring america's role in the vietnam war to a close. joining me now, fareed zakaria, host of cnn's fareed zakaria gps. he knew henry kissinger for many decades. thank you for joining me. i wonder, no one him the way you have, and being a student of history as you are, how to you put his legacy in perspective with shaping what we think about as foreign affairs? >> great question, laura. i think you would have to say he's probably one of the most influential american statesman in its history. certainly, one of the two or three most important secretaries of state. heat would rank up there, if you think about the modern era with harry truman's secretary of state dean acheson, who really created the post war work the united states set up off to world war ii.

after that, i think you would say it's kissinger. and partly because he was secretary of state at a time of incredible turmoil. remember when he comes in as national security adviser, in 1968. the united states is losing its first war in history. the soviet union is on the march everywhere. the united states is facing enormous internal external challenges. and from that situation, he does the opening to china. which essentially is completely transforms the cold war. because now the two great communist countries, one is allied with the united states and one against. he ends the vietnam war, though that's controversial and some people believe he could have ended it earlier. negotiates pace, as you said, in the middle east. expelling the soviet union from the middle east, which was in some ways that marked on power.

ushering in four decades of american dominance. and he begins serious negotiations with -- détente. take those four things, and by the way there were lots of mistakes, lots of tragic things that happened. in cambodia and bangladesh and places like that. take those four achievements. it is hard to find a secretary of state in american history who has achievements of that magnitude. there are a few, but just a handful. >> when you talk about some of the achievements, he also was, as you point out, he was a very controversial figure as well. people remember a lot of that as well. talk to me about this controversies that is very much also tied to his legacy. >> he's seen as kind of the ultimate realist. a protection or all of a kind of real politic that said americas national security

interests are all that matters and human rights is less important. and i think that is a fewer categorization and a fair criticism of some of these policies. he exceeded a coup in chile, or perhaps by some accounts even instigated its, a democratically elected government suddenly was replaced by a general. perhaps to make, the most tragic one was he allowed the pakistani government to commit real savage butchery of what was then cold east pakistan, what is now bangladesh. he allowed the bombing in cambodia. and i say a loud, because i think the one thing about these criticisms, which are all valid, and these are all, i think, fundamental errors of judgment or morality -- but there is one point odd make,

which is, you know, most of the problems and the mistakes and that deaths that take place in and administration are attributed to the president, who is after all the man who makes all the decisions. and kissinger's case, perhaps because such was his aura and influence, everyone regards them is his mistakes, his crimes, his misdemeanors. it was, after all, richard nixon who was president when all the things i mentioned happened. and it's interesting to me that kissinger often gets blamed for the mistakes. but perhaps that's because he also get praised for the achievements. >> you know what they say, fareed, success has many parents but failure is always an orphan. fareed zakaria, such a complexity of the legacy. thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> pleasure. ahead, uc berkeley sued by jewish groups who say it has become a hotbed of unchecked

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i'm here to thank you. a moment of reckoning at college campuses in the wake of the israel-hamas war. now of antisemitism is certainly not new, today there is troubling new data from the anti-defamation league defines it 73% of jewish college

students say that they have seen or even experienced on college campuses since the school year began. and that far fewer junior students feel safe on campus in the wake of the october 7th hamas terror attack. next week the presence at harvard university, amity and pennsylvania are going to testify to congressional hearing. house republicans are promising to put their feet to the fire over claims of growing antisemitism on campus. and now, there is a new lawsuit filed by jewish students, faculty and alumni. it's alleging u.s. university of california berkeley had failed boot tech jewish people from discrimination on their campus. turning announced berkeley graduate business student hannah slacked or who is part of the group that is bringing the suit. as well, kenneth marcus and attorney and founder of the chairman of the nonprofit louis d grand isle center, that is part of the lawsuit. thank you both for joining me

this evening. i want to begin with you hannah. because the lawsuit alleging quote on campus have been receiving hate emails calling for their gassing and murder and quote. jewish students are also afraid to go on clause. they describe the atmosphere on campus. the fear that is so pervasive there is stunning to so many people. why do believe there is so much fear right now? >> thank you so much for having us on to hear our story as jewish students on campus. what i want to speak to is the gap between the policy that exists to protect students -- so for example we've had to jewish students physically assaulted on campus while i was expressing their jewish identity. yeah i've noticed gap and what

the policy is in placed for situations through what these students are being told by the ucp when they file a report. >> the fact that this is happening at berkeley, the university says they have taken multiple steps, you've hinted at it, but multiple steps including communicating jewish groups events wrapping, up the security. they also offered emotional and mental health resources with what they say they have provided what is the specific relief that you be seeking in this lawsuit. to do more of that, something different, what is it? >> this is definitely a yes and situation. yes jewish students are grateful to the university in especially the uc regions, heaviest 7 million investment and programming, you see berkeley recently launched -- those are incredible. and at the same time there is a gap and this is a systemic

problem problem. the fact the intercity what i suspect is not enforcing policy for situations in incidents that effects today as compared to other minority groups, to me is what i would call discrimination. so the reason that we are working now with an incredible team -- we also want to create a cultural shift unchecked capsule that jewish students feel safe, included and there's no more hostility. >> can, to that point and it would be the objectives there and the ideas they were selected before certain policies or turn a blind eye towards certain things. university is responding with a lawsuit today. i'm gonna quote what they're saying. as a public university, berkeley does not have the legal right to stop demonstrations or expression and many would consider to be offensive. those demonstrations enough are protected by the constitution of the united states. my question that many people

are likely asking them selves today. can, why is this not a first amendment concern? and out of the might be out of the hands of the university. what do you say to? that >> sure laura, thank you for having us on and i respect hannah a great. dealer huge first amendment issues. but listen, we have just been hearing about students were being literally assaulted. that is not first amendment protection. it is not first amendment protected to threaten, to assault, to obstruct, to exclude. these are things that are happening at berkeley that we are complaining about do not enjoy first amendment protection. the other hand, jewish students are continually prevented from expressing themselves. they're being punished roster marginalized when they do. if there's anyone who's being denied first amendment rights it's the students who are part of the grand i center and part of this case and not anyone else. >> let me ask you can about the students. you say they have been

assaulted. have there been criminal investigations about? this is a confined in the school handling it as exclusively? or has it been referred to the law enforcement and for officials even off-campus? >> i can speak to that. i know that to jewish students who are physically assaulted they've been attempting to work with eec pd, and my anderson is that acp's not investigating these crimes. so it's one thing to call it a hate crime, it's another to not even investigated as a hate crime. and just to give you a comparison there, was an islamic phobic incident down at stanford recently and, my understanding is it stafford they don't know who the suspect is, yet they are still investigating it as a hate crime. so i think that this further illustrates that there is a disconnect between the issues affecting jewish students, what policies are in place and why it appears to me the

anniversaries are selectively enforcing policies they see fit. >> can't, really quick is this something that would be continued outside of this campus as well? our other schools looking at the same issue along with what hannah is describing, to have a collective approach? >> what we are seeing at berkeley is both representative and also extreme. and other words, it is a symptom of a much larger problem that we are seeing all around the country at so many different universities that it's hard to keep track. on the other hand, what is happening a berkley is really truly extraordinarily bad and needs to be addressed. not just because of the problems that berkley, because the university of california berkeley is one of the greatest public universities in the world. and others look to it as an example for better or for worse. we don't want the problem to expand out of berkeley. we want to stop it here and now. >> anishnawbek there, can marcus, thank you so much for joining me this evening.

>> thank. you >> thank you. >> while, today is the season two premiere of anderson cooper's podcast. you've been waiting for it it's called all there is. he'll join us for a preview of what we can exexpect and i it inincludes p president bididen.

you know, last year anderson cooper started a podcast about grief while going through boxes of things it belonged to his mother, his father and his brother, all of whom have died. the podcast is called all there is in the second season starts today. here's a peek at it. >> the basement in my house is still filled with boxes of stuff belonging to my mom who died in 2019, my dad and brother who died decades ago. your photographs and letters notes have been sitting here waiting for me to find the courage to sift through them for nearly a year. i had started to go through the boxes last year, when the first season of all there is but i had to stop. i found it overwhelming. all this stuff brought up a lot

of pain and sadness that i buried along time ago as a kid. my dad died, and then my brother to carter die by suicide. but it turns grief doesn't stay buried forever. >> i have never said anything like this before -- >> my father a lost my father when i was. dan >> i was minded about that the spring when i heard about 1000 voicemails winners receiving the first season of the podcast. >> i had a grieve the person that i -- live love >> we hefted endure we have to grieve it. we have to endure >> a listen to all your calls. within 46 hours of messages. they moved me profoundly. >> we lost our son eight years ago. >> what you know my son's name. ian alexander -- >> learned the names of your loved ones. i heard your pain, your love and i don't know how to explain it exactly buttered awakened something inside, and i realize

now for the first time that i've never really allowed myself to grief. and in burying that pain, i also buried my ability to feel joy. i don't want to do that anymore. i can't. i want to feel all there is. that's why i'm doing another season of this podcast. i need to talk with others, living grief and learning from them on how i can too. >> i think the impulsive least for me is that how do i fix it, how do i manage it? none of that works with grief, if you can't fix it, you can't manage, you can't push it away. >> i was at a grocery store, feeling like nobody could's feel me or see me, and i was just screaming inside. it felt like this unraveling of our family. but to be the only one left and to have no one i could literally call and talk to and, say remember when this? happened >> in the first episode i talk to dr. francis mueller about what grief can actually do for us in our

lives. >> we are told to buck up, to get over it, to rise above it. but we are never really thought to be with it. >> the next episode, i will talk with president biden and the white house about his grief and how he is coped with it. >> i think it's critical people understand that they are always going to be with you. your mother is in your heart every single day, your brother in your heart. they are there every single day. and there will come a time that you can sort of welcome that, the you have that, the you had that, that it was there. >> there's a lot i don't understand about grief but i do know the talking about is the only thing that makes me feel less alone in it. i hope it does feel as well. the new season of all there is starts wednesday, november 29th wary gave aukus. >> anderson cooper joins me now. anderson, i'm so glad to talk to you my friend. i've got to talk to you when i

first heard this episode, it is unbelievable. it is so compelling. it completely draws you in. this podcast is something really to behold. i understand the found an essay, partly ridden by your father really compelled you to do a second season. what was this essay for the audience? >> it's kind of crazy. i hadn't planned on doing a second season, but there were about 1000 voicemails from collars, from listeners from the first season that i hadn't listen to. couple of months ago i wasn't going to do a show, i felt that the least i could do is listen to all these people called him. i listen about 46 hours of peoples calls and it was one of the most moving experiences of my life. motivated me to go start going through these boxes of stuff that belong to might that my father my mother and my brother, but it's not going to cause of so overwhelmed in the first season. learning the first box turned out to be a box my dad's papers. the first file i opened and to

get a paper was this essay he wrote 40 years ago entitled the importance of grieving. and it, he was writing about what happens to kids who are not able to grievous children when they experience a loss and the ripple effects of that throughout their life. and it's literally what happened to me. i just found it kind of this extraordinary moment, a stunning moments. what are the chances that i would be reading this that my dad wrote and relates to me and it compelled me, it made me realize how little i understood about grief. and that are really frankly never allowed myself to grief, i buried it as a child when, light dad died, my brother died. like a lot of people have just been kind of running away from it. i realized that's not something that it, doesn't go away, and it's gonna stay buried forever. >> you say coincidence, i don't believe in coincidences when it comes to this. all of the boxes, all the

moments. here a father now especially so must be so stunning to think about, he may have written that, there was no date but he may have written it at a time when he was talking about your grappling with what he thought you would perceive about life. >> also, he knew -- the man in his family dotted 50s, data 50s, grandfather did as well. so he very much knew he was at risk of dying earlier, already had a heart attack. i think it is very cognizant of the fact he might die and that we would be laughed. i was ten years old when he died. and worried very much about that. so i just found it stunning. was like a letter from him. >> well here's two season too. i wonder how much, how many voicemails you're gonna get to. take says a lot to anderson cooper, the took the time to listen to, because you realize the community were all in. bravo my friend, nice to see you. >> we'll be sure to download the season two premiere of all there is. it's out today.

wherever you get your podcasts. we'll be right back.

the truce between israel hamas has now been extended to a seven day according to the idf. the truce has resulted in the return of 70 israelis under the agreement, additional three dual israeli citizens in 24 for nationals were also released outside of the deal. this is now the second extension of the initial truths that began on friday for four days. i want to bring in ben wedeman now, ben what's the latest? >> well, just minutes before

the truce was set to expire, the israeli military put out a statement saying that in light of the mediators effort to continue the process of releasing the hostages and subject to the terms of the framework, the operational pause will continue. now obviously these's the sticking point was the fact that hamas could only come up with seven women and children, a list of seven women and children and the bodies of a say three hostages who were killed as a result of the israeli bombing of gaza. that wasn't enough for the israelis. that's why we had this delay. but it appears that perhaps because of the presence in israel of u.s. secretary of state antony blinken and the continued efforts by qatar mediator here, the israelis relented and decided to hold their fire for now. >> do we know anything --

is their list of other names or additional people to make it to that ten? we have any idea about that ben? >> no we don't and in fact hamas sort of clearly stated this is all we can come up with. now, is that because other factions are holding the hostages or they cannot reach those cells of hamas militants who are holding those other hostages? that is just not clear at this point. >> ben wedeman, thank you so much for your reporting. we'll continue to follow the story of course. well that is it for laura coates live. king charles is next. good night.

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