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midnight at the moment it is your home astrocytic buyer, but there are itching questions that are continuing to swirl at the second hour of laura coates live. it is midnight, what is going to happen? we have already had the news tonight that the idf aerial defense system intercepted one rocket that was launched from the gaza strip in the last hour that was just before the truce was set to expire. rocket sirens were heard in the area over the past few hours. i want to go right now to cnn's jeremy diamond, in israel, and cnn chief national security correspondent alex marquardt who is in washington. jeremy, it is now the and of the deadline. we haven't heard anything about an extension of a truce from either side. what do you know? >> yes, that is right, laura.
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for all intents and purposes we believe this truce has now expired. it was slated to expire at this very time midnight eastern time, 7 am local time. it is now 701 a.m. where i am, and there have already been in the past hour, not just, one but two sirens actually going off in southern israel. we know there was at least one rocket that was intercepted as it was headed in the direction of -- where my team has been position a lot over the last several weeks. we are also now getting the reports of rocket sirens going off in the town of -- which is in the south of -- much closer to the -- crossing where of course we have seen over 100 hostages released over the past week. many of those going through that crossing. in fact this fragile truce that has lasted seven days and appears to not be extended into -- has allowed for the release of
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86 israelis, 24 foreign nationals over the course of the seven days. but now it appears that there will not be additional hostages released today, at least as far as right now, laura. we could see some developments, the late breaking developments that have been after this truce was slated to end, but right now, if there are no more developments of that sort, we will not see additional hostages to be released. what we will see instead is a return to the fighting in the gaza strip. both sides, israel and hamas, have made very clear if the truth is not extended, they are both prepared to return to the fighting. now we did just get an idf spokesman on the phone, who said he was waiting for a government directive, but that the military stands prepared for any development. that was just a couple minutes before that truce was slated to expire. i did already hear the noise of
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jets overhead, which sometimes is an indication of impending bombing in gaza. we have not heard any explosions yet, but we will certainly keep you posted, laura. >> it is heartbreaking for so many reasons to think about what could come next. of course as you, mentioned i want to go to, you the fact that there are no more hostages it being released, 80 or more, there is still so many who are in that overall tally including man, including others who might not know about. the deadline has now expired. does that mean we could really see these hostilities resume immediately, or is this somehow a bit of a waiting period to figure out if the diplomatic ties, or discussions, have truly come to an end? >> there are a number of reasons to be pessimistic right now, laura. the first is that all of the sides have been very clear about the timing of this. this went into effect seven days ago, at 7 am local time
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midnight eastern time. that has now elapsed. we have heard those sirens. we have seen that rocket that was fired out of the gaza strip and intercepted. we should caution we don't know who fired it. it doesn't necessarily mean it was, tomas it could have been another group. we have seen other groups firing rockets. so these are all you know elements in the negative column at the same time it has been a remarkably quiet night in terms of the noises we are hearing out of the different -- there really are five different groups that are involved in this negotiation, countries plus tomas. and i would just caution, we should probably wait to get some sort of official statement from any of, them or hope for the from several of them before we either declare this, dead or alive. we are certainly, all of us, reaching out to our sources in the u.s. government among the qatari, the egyptians, the
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israelis, so we have yet to hear anything. but there was a hope this would continue into an eight-day, that after seven days of these extraordinary hostage exchanges, that we would see yet another day of women and children, israeli hostages being released by hamas. but of course the fear is if that does not happen, we know that israel has said from the highest levels, prime minister netanyahu on down, that they are ready to immediately go back to the fighting. laura? >> i mean president biden was credited by the prime minister netanyahu about his role in what is happening in the last seven days. if the white house commenting tonight at this hour? >> i have been reaching out for the past few hours, and they have been remarkably quiet. i think they will surface, if and when they know what is going on. i would just point to last night as well, i mean, this is a deal that has been extended day by day. there was a moment last night around the same time before midnight, when we thought this
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might fall apart as well. and what we've learned, is there were several -- put forth by hamas that were deemed unacceptable by israel. the deal was, women and children alive would be handed over to israel, and what hamas had initially proposed was seven women and children, and then three bodies. that was rejected by israel, because they all had to be a life. there was a second list, seven women and children, and three elderly individuals who are believed to be, man that also was rejected. they finally settled on eight women and children who we saw released earlier today on thursday, so yesterday. and the belief in going into the seventh and eighth days was that hamas did know where there were more women and children, where they're being held by hamas, or other groups, or gangs, families across the gaza strip. but they would probably be able to come up with another group of ten. so that is what we are waiting to see, if that would happen
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today, and there was a reason to think that would happen, but at the same time, laura, hamas is getting very close to the end of what we believe they had in terms of women and children, and they were going to start probably negotiating for man, and israeli soldiers at which point it was going to get a lot more complicated, and there was a belief that hamas might start asking for a higher price. laura? >> i understand, jeremy diamond, there is a statement from the idf, what is it? >> that is, right according to the israeli military, they have, quote resumed combat against the hamas terrorist organization in the gaza strip. that is a direct quote from the israel defense forces. they say hamas, quote, violated the operational pause, and in addition fired towards israeli territory. an apparent reference to those rocket sirens that i was just talking about moments ago. so it appears, laura, that for all intents and purposes, military operations, fighting in gaza has indeed resumed and
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we'll continue up until there is some other deal to allow for another temporary pause in the fighting to allow for more hostages to be released. but as of now, the fighting is resuming in gaza according to the israeli military, and we know of course there was a report in the last hour of eight rockets being fired from the gaza strip, unclear exactly from who in terms of our ability to independently confirm that, but it was fired towards the israeli town of -- and it was intercepted by the israeli military. now, according to the israeli military, as a result of, that they are resuming their military operations in the gaza strip. i think it is important to underscore what that could mean in terms of israeli military operations, the israeli prime minister, his defense minister, israel's political leadership as a whole, has made clear that this operational pause to allow for the release of hostages
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would not spell the end of the war. they have made clear, what could follow is at least two months of fighting, and they have also signaled very strongly that it will involve pushing deeper into gaza, pushing south of the line of the river gaza effectively, where they have told civilians to head to. these really military has signaled that they plan on going after hamas in the southern gaza strip as well, after focusing the majority of their ground operations in the northern part of the gaza strip. that could of course mean, you know, much more significant damage, many more civilian casualties south in the southern gaza strip, and so you know we will have to see exactly how quickly these really military moves to the next phase of the war, but they have signaled that would be the case. we should also know the israeli prime minister has said that part of what he wants to continue the fighting is because he believes that if the
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pressure on hamas has worked to get them to where they were at the negotiating table in terms of the hostage release. if indeed we are moving to the next phase of hostage release which will involve man, which will involve israeli soldiers, the israeli government already knows those will come at a higher price. so they want to try and lower that price and the israeli government believes that they can lower that price in part by pummeling hamas effectively, and pulling them into submission at the negotiating table as well. >> it is hard to believe we are talking about human beings as this sort of capital of tehran right now. jeremy diamond, alex marquardt, we will come back to you as we get more information. i want to bring in foreign policy analyst -- right now the idea of saying they are going to be resuming these military operations, we don't know if negotiations are perhaps ongoing behind the scenes, and they are using this and some other, way or do we? what do you expect to see next? >> first i am sure that
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negotiations are still going on, and the mediators are still working with the parties, but right now we moved from the point where negotiations where taking place while there is a cease-fire, the situation where we are now negotiating under fire. this is a situation that obviously is much worse for hamas, and much better for israel. and i think that what we are going to see -- >> but why, why is that? i want to understand that? why is this leverage shift better for israel in this moment, if you still have hostages of course who hamas may or may not have, can't come with the numbers, and we seem to be back with the prospect of not knowing where hostages are and violence occurring in the region once again, why the leverage shift here? >> because at the end of the day what is really officials say is that the main goal is
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the destruction of hamas. hamas wanted to use this cease-fire, this pause as a breather, and as a way to maybe get to the situation where the pause is so long that israel would not be able to resume its military operation, especially not the ground operation in southern gaza. and right now, these really are doing what they said they would do in any case. they are resuming their operation, most likely we will see in the next few hours, the idf resuming its ground operation in northern gaza, in one of the neighborhoods that is still -- in the next few days, maybe to southern gaza. the israelis say, that the more they will push militarily on the ground, the better are the chances that must will move the rest of the hostages. >> what do you make of the reporting from our colleague
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jeremy diamond earlier about the idea of behind the scenes in part negotiations the price of the actual people who are being held, women and children in one category, soldiers, adult men in another, when you look at the shift in how negotiations might be, where do you see that conversation going? >> i think when it comes to men that are being held hostage, there are two categories obviously, the soldiers and civilians who are taken hostage from the villages around the border, i don't see at the moment hamas willing to release them for the same price it got in the current pause, the pause that just ended. i think they will demand a much higher price, a price that the israeli government in my opinion is not only unwilling, but also unable to pay when it
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comes to israeli public opinion, and we have to remember the vast majority of israelis support the resumption of the war, under the operation in southern gaza. i think maybe 60%, 65, percent maybe even 70% of his release support it. so the government and for example prime minister netanyahu, and his last conversation with president biden on sunday told him, if i stop now, public opinion will go against me because there is a huge backing by the israeli people, about this operation, so i think what we are going to see is the operation, the israeli operation in northern gaza right now over the next day or two, and then these really is most likely will go to the south. >> speaking of public opinion, and first i assume you mean talking about the prices associated with hostages, it is that ratio of how many palestinian presidents or detainees perhaps that ratio
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might change, but there is another factor in mind in terms of the chance for, and the exchange, but when it comes to public opinion, you can't look at it in a, vacuum there was this time support tonight about the possibility that israeli intelligence forces were aware, at least a year ago of a 40-page battle plan of sorts, it did not necessarily reach netanyahu, but there are conversations around the deterrence and prevention, and what to do now. do you think this new reporting has any impact on the way the negotiations will go going forward in terms of israel wanting to demonstrate a show of force more to demonstrate that they will in fact ensure or require that negotiation under the hamas side will actually be kept at the bargain kept? >> so first, i think that for his release, the reporting in the new york times is not new,
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because it is sort of a compilation of several reports that were published by the israeli press in the last two weeks. by the way, they are part of a war, an internal war in israel on the narrative around the failure of the war between prime minister netanyahu on the one hand, and the israeli security services and intelligence community on the other hand with each side trying to put out parts of the story that are more comfortable to them. but at the end of the day, we are looking at here huge intelligence failure a huge policy failure on both, neither side will be able to escape its responsibility for this. >> barack, ravina thank you so much for joining us, tonight we will keep coming you for your expertise. and the idf is saying the israel hamas truth has expired. military operations have resumed in the gaza strip. we will be right back with a spokesman from the idf.
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>> breaking news, tonight the idf says the israel hamas just has, expired and military operations have now resumed in the gaza strip. joining me now idf spokesperson -- in tel aviv. thank you so much for being
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here, today although this news is quite startling for the will to, hear what happened, how would this truce fall apart? >> thank you for having me, laura, sleeping as release once again woke up to the sound of the red siren of hamas rockets falling out once again and gaza. just like october 7th, it is the same hamas that attacked on october 7th with rockets, this morning once again a rockets at israeli population. >> and our weekly, or are you clear as to who is doing this? and why? >> the, why again, we can go back to october, seventh why did hamas firework it's at the israeli population, why did they cross over the border in massacre is really civilians. is that right there in the charter, they exist in order to destroy -- and the jewish people. that is why they did this on october 7th. why else were they launch
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rockets out of the blue again today. it just shows it is the same hamas and our mission is far from being done. >> has it been more than one rocket, and or there, are we aware of more than, one, 23, you have any idea of the number at play here? >> so there have been multiple rockets, they have been intercepted, and it shows that hamas has moved back into the -- intercepted those -- communities on cities, kindergartens, again, just now getting back to life after the tragedies -- it is unclear, if we interceptor those, and we resumed our combat missions against the gaza strip. >> our negotiations somehow still ongoing as -- jurors that are now? >> the political echelon can
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decide to take this out of -- given us the order as a military that this truce has been violated, that once again hamas is committing these atrocities, targeting again, not targeting these troops a, now i'm not speaking to about emission where they fire directly our troops, these were targeted directly towards civilians, and therefore -- in order to eliminate hamas, which just shows, even after days of truce, days where we were able to get these hostages some of them back, home 140 other men still stuck in those tunnels in gaza, and even release these prisoners, these non-prisoners, they decided once again to move into attack mode. they started this on the seventh, and here we are once again, it is the same exact hamas. these are the people we are dealing, with laura. >> so what will come and happen
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to the remaining hostages now that combat missions have resumed. are there concerns it is going back to around the time of october 7th when -- that there was thought to be compromised and safety, not knowing their condition, what happens now in respect to the remaining hostages? >> listen, the israeli people are deeply concerned about our hostages. imagine instead of jumping your kids off at your parents, house you job them out at hamas's house. hamas is holding a chemical baby, a four-year-old child, men and women who don't know if they are life or, dead and we have a lot more information that we have an october 7th. we have been hearing these -- horrific reports from the people who have come, home children they say as hamas put these children in what are cycle -- they pressed their legs against the exhaust pipe in the
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motorcycle to see their legs with a burn mark, so if they tried to run away in gas, that they could quickly identify them. this is the monstrosity of what hamas is doing, it is exactly what we have been saying like isostere deeply concerned however what i can tell you is we never would have reached a hostage deal that we reached most recently if we had not operationally pressed the military on the battlefield like president biden that hamas couldn't give a dam about these people, they will only respond to pressure. we are once back again how to destroy them so they can never committed this crime in israel again and -- >> is there any more information about the number of hostages or who is holding them? i asked them -- you can illuminate on these issues for me, indicate that perhaps it is not singularly hamas that is keeping some of these are stages --
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that who is having at the table might not be sufficient. do we know if there are other, players other and he's in talks right now we're holding hostages that need to be addressed as well? >> the talks are with hamas. i will tell you why. in the same way that hamas and hezbollah and houthis in yemen are proxies of iran, misstates bonds have, terror hamas are the rulers of the gaza strip. there are small break of terror cells, and in all of those cases they are proxies of hamas. i must call the shots in the gaza strip, everybody reporter, to them nearer the governing body of the gaza strip. let's not forget, all those billions of dollars of international aid money, that came into the gaza strip, the small amount that was not stolen by the heads of hamas were distributed by hamas. everybody looks to them for responsibility. if they decide they want to -- need aside all of the truce, they want to break a truce, it
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is their call. the attack on october 7th was taken thousands of people took part, but all the calls were hamas. so this differentiation of the terror groups is not affected, bottom line it is a master's decision to attack and take people hostage and also in their hands if they want to try to have a shred of dignity and tried to let these people come back home. >> major, we are reporting now that is really jets are in the air right now. what is this really targeting specifically? >> just like before, we are targeting a hamas strongholds, hamas terrorists, and where they shut those rocket launches and any place we see there is an imminent threat against israel that is obviously the first priority they can press a button right now on target children in tel aviv, in jerusalem, and then north of, israel and the south of israel. so operationally wherever hamas or operating, you're planning these attacks, those are the first places we are going. we can imagine, and we know it will be hamas operative, we can write the script right, now
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hamas right now are going under, schools under being hamas inside hospitals, and getting into rocket launches ready, the reason is they know that we have to stop just like any country trying to protect their citizens would attack the terrorists, and when we do they want to hold up a flag i think we should all -- the next 24 hours saying the idf israel attack a school, a mosque, we all know the -- this is hamas descript. they are writing, we cannot allow ourselves to fall back into their, hands and believe because of course they are manipulating the entire situation. >> the notion of taking that -- fear of doing so but in that same vein, it has been a lot of criticism that has been directed towards those who are viewing any military strategy that might involve the collateral damage of civilly ends. knowing hamas's m.o., knowing where they play strongholds according to the intelligent
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and, beyond will you continue to target those areas where civilians might be located as human shields? >> i totally understand the question and this is obviously something we are thinking about every day. this is extremely difficult, because we don't want civilians to die. we don't want is really civilians today from these brushes of rockets. we don't want to see gaza civilians die. but hamas is operating directly from within these areas, and we have to ask yourselves, what is the alternative? if we do, nothing if we lay down our arms, who would just alarmist a carry out another massacre like october 7th. i think more early, that is completely unconscionable, and no country in the world would allow it. the first priority is to protect these really civilians, and we are doing so with as much position as we, can knowing that the people who are fighting against hamas are holding hostages, we're holding their own civilians around, the neck and shooting. match in a --
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shooting a population, and that is why -- the international community to demand that hamas leaves certain areas, and have a little bit of courage, and leave your civilians out of, this let him go back to being safe. >> major, has the weeklong pause, has that had any -- we have been ready militarily, the reason is we are not only within unreasonable group on the other, side who would look at this, because that they had reformed their ways, but we know, hamas we have been dealing with this for years even in recent days lower they have said in her plan is to carry out october 7th again and again and again. there, for a personally speaking, we have been ready for when the time comes to defend our, civilians and to find hamas wherever they are and illuminate them, because without that at the end of the
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day these, really does matter if they are not living on the border with, does that even in the center, they cannot go to sleep at night knowing that there are meters out there that are seeking to kill them. >> major jordan, spielman thank you so much. >> thank, you laura, for having me. >> our breaking news, we are watching all the developments in the middle east, tonight where the idf says the israel hamas truce has expired. military operations have now resumed in the gaza strip.
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>> breaking news tonight, the idf says the truce between israel and hamas has now expired. military operations have now resumed in the gaza strip, and i want to bring in cnn military analyst and retired air force colonel cedric leighton, also with us alex -- who is a former pentagon counterterrorism official. thank you both for being here. colonel, the truth is over. what do you expect to see in the battlefield in the coming hours? >> yes, laura, so it looks like based on what major told us in just a few minutes, ago it looks like these rallies are going to resume attacks probably in the north, but they
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are going to rapidly move down into the central part of gaza and then into the south, so they have made no secret, laura, of where they want to go. they are basically here to destroy hamas as much as they possibly, can and every effort they will make is going to be geared towards achieving that goal. that cool will mean that they are, -- and secretary blinken desires that they maintain a civilian safety corridor, but it is going to be very hard for them to do something like, that but -- in the next few hours next few days, if those operations continue. >> we have seen what is going on and the humanitarian crisis, is it in gaza for, example in addition to what happened. and the idea of the ground operations otherwise resuming, we are well aware from even
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recent times about the collateral impact to people who are civilians, and innocent lives as well in gaza. alex, throughout the, day it seemed as though both israel and hamas were on board to possibly extend the truce, to release more hostages. the big question tonight, is why this has broken down. the major alluded to the idea of a rocket being fired but is there more do you think? >> yes, i mean, the way the process works is that hamas hand over a list of hostages they want to hand back, no list was handed over was my understanding. there has been a couple instances of rockets being fired as well as the explosion thing and fire earlier this week, but did nothing there was this disdain effort to try to re-initiated the conflict from the hamas side. but it really seems to boil down to the hostage, side and i'm not handing over, list marketing what they want in return. and i don't think there is appetite in israel to stand by and allow that to happen.
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bees in pulling that are said about 90% of the israeli populist that there were hostages, back about that famous that they want to see hamas the red acadian. so no hostages means -- no presumption of activities. >> what do you think negotiations in qatar are doing right now to try and maybe save this, truce or get it back on a kind of track, and if grossly both realized and have been hearing from both sides that following the release of hostages and beyond, that it will resume. what is happening behind the scenes you thinking could? >> i think you're exactly, right that is -- now at the involvement probably altered bodies had an interest in trying to spur permanent cease-fire which -- so they're probably asking for those hostages to be returned, don't forget in recent days we have seen request from -- certain hostages were not able to find, and so what we don't know is he's release were specific information hostages
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wasn't, provided that could also account for. this >> u.s. has been pleading as we are to prevent the massive loss of civilian life if the fighting, museums how will the do that, and still meet their objective as he has said, as destroying hamas? >> it is going to be really difficult,, lower and as -- alluded to the way in which hamas -- throughout the population in gaza, and how they use a facilities like, schools are hospitals, other civilian institutions, that is going to be a compounding factor in a, this it is going to make it even more difficult for the israelis to target these areas with precision and so they may and desire the -- israelis minister to possess a tech certain areas, but it may be impossible not to get civilians as they go after certain elements of hamas and of course is real and
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leadership elements from hamas it could be pretty sure they are going to go after those leadership elements and i can almost show you with that same degree of certainty that leadership elements are also interspersed within the civilian population of gaza wherever it may be found, whether -- >> alex, i mean, if the idf goes into gaza, and connects operations the same way they did in the north, are they risking losing the decreasing support for the international community in terms of the military tactics that are used? >> yes, i mean, when we see the civilian casualties in humanitarian situation, we have seen a decrease and support and certain cases from countries and other people worldwide, and the israelis have an obligation to make sure masking connect this type of attack again. now as they just mentioned they will start a, north try to finish up the operations inside gaza, city then moved towards
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central gaza -- where it is going to complicate, here is a population of 2.2 million, 1.1 million stands out, where they were told that is where they needed to be, in order to move themselves on a battlefield. they are not going to be allowed to go back north according to the idf, so they will still be in the battlefield as well the number of folks, and the idf has said they have declared certain areas in the south a humanitarian zone and will need military action. people don't have to try to get, they're a lot of people who have to go around, so -- use air power to a certain extent and it is definite going to raise the risk to the idf troops on the ground. so we may see some difficult fighting yet, possibly colonel and alex thank you so much i just can't imagine what, the loved ones of the hostages are thinking and feeling tonight. >> our breaking news, the idf says it resumed comeback operations against hamas, accusing the militant group of
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violating the truce agreement by firing rockets towards israel, next i'll talk to a woman whose cousins were taking hostage.
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it has resumed combat of hamas accusing the combat of firing rockets towards israel, but what about the hostages remain in gaza. what is going to happen now that hostages are likely still there, and of course the civilian population in gaza, who is already seen the effects of the spiraling humanitarian crisis? >> i want to bring in aben owned, her cousin were taken along with their father who is still a hostage. their family is still fighting for the rest of the hostages to come home. >> abby, your cousins were returned to their family we just talked to days ago. thankfully they are now home, their father is still in captivity. when you heard the news tonight, this morning for you that the truce is over. are you concerned?
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>> of course i am concerned. it is heartbreaking but not surprising. we have seen small infractions of the cease-fire along the way, not getting the lists of hostages on time. the icrc not going in and then this morning fire toward israel. it makes sense. it is really disappointing. >> are you in touch with any other families who still have their relatives angola? have there been communications about what is happening? >> yes, there are so many of us that still have men men of fighting age, but also men that had not been considered among that list of children or mothers. that is now the bigger fight, how do you get home this other category which it feels crazy that we have to categorize humans in any sense i think any family member will do whatever they can to bring home their family and now we're in a bigger fight.
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>> how are your cousins doing? have they told you anything about what their captivity was like? >> we know about their physical situation, they weren't eating a lot. they couldn't access bathrooms when they needed to. in the last few days we have seen despite them being skinny and pale, that they have been able to do things. they've been able to move around the hospital. they are still there. we are not asking them questions. we were told not to ask them anything, and let them share as they well. >> are you nervous about what life will be like? what it could mean for the safety of all israelis? >> this is the first time since october 7th that we haven't had had sirens, or running to bomb shelters. my kids go to sleep at night, are we gonna have a siren tonight? they know to get ready to get asleep to put their shoes near the door, to have if they need
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to run to a bomb center. the cease fire has given us a respite in all of that. i woke all this morning with a pit in my stomach. oh my god we are going back to it. there is this moment of these hostages are being released, there weren't sirens. it was a moment that fell like a movement, that forward progress. now it feels like we're going backward. >> abby owen, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> our breaking news tonight the idf says it has resumed combat operations against hamas, accusing the militant group of violating the truce agreement by fire rockets towards israel. now the fighting is continued again. what will happen next. we will be right back.
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u.s. secretary of state antony blinken is leaving israel and heading to to buy. breaking news says idf has resumed combat operations against hamas, accusing them of violating the truce agreement by firing rockets towards israel. minutes after the weeklong truce broke down on friday their time. israeli military vehicles were firing in northwest gaza courting tomas-controlled ministry of interior in gaza. in a statement the ministry also said israeli aircraft were in the skies above the area. thank you for watching, before we go a sneak peek at the all new cnn film, chowchilla, which
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cnn breaking news hello i'm john vause and cnn and atlanta, where israel say