one of the most exclusive clubs in the country has a brand-new member tonight, but it's not a club you'd actually want to belong to. tonight, on "laura coates live." with apologies to the "sound of music" how do you solve a problem like george santos. no surprise i think they may have cracked a nut voting today to kick him out of congress. what's his response? why do i want to stay here? to hell with this place, i'm quoting him, the epitome of you can't fire me, i quit from the now ex-congressman who yesterday refused to resign while wearing ferragamo shoes and arriving in a jaguar. i point that out because some of the receipts that came in the ethics report. now he's joining a pretty exclusive club, no, not the college volleyball team, this is a really exclusive club with

only five members. well, now they have a sixth. the only six members who have ever been thrown out of congress in the 234-year history, and let me tell you, they are a regular, well, rogues' gallery might be the appropriate phrase, john b. clark, john w reed and henry c burn net expelled in 1861 for fighting for the confederacy. also michael ozzy meyers, no, not the one from "halloween." i know i began with a movie reference talking about a real person here, the one expelled in 1980 after he was convicted as part of the infamous fbi abscam investigation. he and other lawmakers were caught up in a sting operation taking bribes to -- it was the inspiration for the movie "american hustle." it's friday night. the movie references are getting ex-team but then james

traficant jr. kicked out after being convicted of several crimes including bribery back in 2002 and that's it. six in 230 years. i want to bring in congressman glen ivy, one of the 311 members to expel him and sits on the ethics committee that recommended his expulsion. congressman, i'm so glad you're here. thanks for joining me today. i got to tell you, people were wondering if this day would come, the second they started to hear about how he got elected in the first place. is it long overdue, or the right time given the ethics report released. >> i thought it was important to get the report out, the ethics committee staff did a fantastic job in doing the investigation. we did -- and it took time. they went through 170,000 pages of documents, and, you know, 40 subpoenas. they did over 40 interviews and

depositions, so, you know, we dit the right way, and i think that's an important fact. you have people concerned about expelling someone from the congress and i think it was important to show we did a thoughry investigation that supported that position. >> yet, there are still going to be complaints and there are to this moment about due process. your legal acumen is sound and knew it was coming, i'm sure, about the ideas of, well, there haven't been convictions yet. there is a house ethics report, yeah, there are indictments but, yes, not a conviction. should that have been required? >> no, and i think the constitution is clear on this point. it talks about a two-thirds vote as a requirement which is the safeguard for members being expelled for partisan reasons or improper reasons, but, you know, i think here we got the two-thirds vote, you by there was way more than you might want to have to make sure.

the criminal activity, the scope of it, the breadth of it, i thought it was really overwhelming. i haven't seen anything like that. maybe traficant but, you know, who also had bad hair days on a perpetual basis, but i think -- who am i talk to about bad hair, but i think it's really clear that the level of misconduct here warranted this kind of action. another thing on that point, you know, i think it's important to remember that he got to the office basically on false pretenses. i mean, his campaign was a lie. what he said about his background, his experience, you know, his family relationship, all of that stuff, so a lot of the voters in new york wanted him out. they thought they had been tricked. >> that under mines the argument you're taking away or usurping of the power of voters saying they didn't have a chance to know who they were electing based on his conduct, but also he could run again, right?

this is not the finality that maybe other things would have. >> this is like the tennessee three. you had those people were removed from office in tennessee, the voters felt that they were removed improperly and obviously they were. and so they put them right back in office. they didn't have to clear out their offices basically before they were back. i don't think george santos is coming back and i think he realizes that and that's why i think he declared a few days ago he wouldn't run for re-election but i don't think the voters would have him. >> we'll see because that was a blue district flipped. a princeton man on friday night, nice to see you congressman glenn ivey. >> thank you. now that we're seeing real repercussions for former congressman george santos, you know it's friday night and tomorrow will be "snl." how are comedians and the late night folks going to cope, to manage, you know what, i have a

got one with me. matt friend here is or is it, someone who sounds suspiciously like former president donald trump so what do you think about the expulsion? >> excuse me, physical of all, it is a nasty setup. i will tell you i resent the setup. it's terrible to with you on the fake news, cnn, i will tell you what, george santos is a nasty woman, a lot of us know he is a dog, he is a dog and i'll tell you what, he is the best fashion sense since rob desanctimonious heels. we all know that to be true but he should listen to my advice. i know more about makeup than he does, better than "the apprentice" and maybe he would still be in office if he still listened to me, china, that's great stuff. >> i don't know what to say about that impersonation. wow. >> thank you. >> how do you think george santos is feeling tonight? >> well, you know, well, george santos talks about the constitution and given the fact that george sabts was friends with the people who wrote the

constitution, our founders, john adams, i had lunch with him last week, i will tell you, santos is sad but he will be appearing on, you know, "real housewives" and andy cohen will be moderating so i think he will be fine at his next gig honestly. >> is matt here today? is matt coming? i think i just heard trump -- >> not only am i here first time on cnn. thank you so much for having me. >> look, i'm blown away by your impersonations. that is uncanny for so many reasons. >> thank you. >> you have no shortage of material. but is that why you think people have been so fascinated? i mean, a part of me sometimes thought it was perhaps sacha baron cohen playing a prank on all of us and waiting for that moment to go -- >> this was gia giant scooby-do episode. i feel like we're so drawn to this character, he's effectively a character because in the post-trump presidency i feel

like we just need something to pay attention to. it's like an hbo miniseries, "inventing anna" to the next level. george delvey. i'm excited to see who plays him. maybe it will be on cnn plus. >> oh, okay. it was funny. >> i will say i think i am just as qualified to be on the show as santos was in congress. i was like, what am i doing right now? this is cnn. it's amazing but i am qualified to do a santos impression because we are two proud jews and that is i -- a fact. >> where will we see him next? >> i think we will see him probably on "watch what happens live" with andy cohen. i think could picture him in the clubhouse ripping a shotski with santos is a new segment on "watch what happens live." who knows? >> i know exactly every head

motion you're doing because clearly i have watched all those episodes too. matt, you put a smile on my face for a day when we're talking about a odd tra temperature here. >> it's so crazy, it's so crazy this news that even mitch mcconnell saw santos was out and mitch mccannel said, wait a second, you mean to tell me that george santos is out of the job? what's he going to do next? [ laughter ] >> where do i go from here, matt friend? >> there is nowhere else to go. the prairie chicken comment, i would have lost my mind. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. ? a professional on primetime television and here you come on a friday night doing all -- >> i learned from the business, all those george santos press conferences, knows what he's doing. >> i'm not even going to pretend. good-bye to matt friend. >> thank you so much. >> oh, my god. i had on eyeliner. it's all now ruined because of

him. that's bad news for me but also bad news tonight for the real former president, not the one who was just impersonated because a federal judge in his subversion case in washington said, nope, you do not have absolute immunity for what you said and what you did after the election, and, nope, i'm not going to dismiss the charges. so, what does all this mean for donald trump's attempts to hold criminal cases and there are a bunch of them at bay. joining me now is gwen keys, former dekalb county district attorney. don't worry, i won't ask you to do an impersonation but if you have one -- i will not have you do it but you and i both impersonate former prosecutors, shall we, because we both know what to do there. judge chutkan denied trump's request for a dismissal based on presidential immunity and i'll read the quote. quoting defendant's four-year

service as commander in chief did not bestow on him the divine right of kings to evade the criminal accountability that governs his fellow citizens. now, that is about as unequivocal as a judge can get, so what are the implications? >> well, in that particular case, it's clear that judge chutkan is saying what the law is, that there is not absolute immunity for the former president and that his actions done for campaigning, he was acting like an ordinary citizen and as such, he would be held accountable as an ordinary citizen. and what i like is the fact that that is also the sentiment that you're hearing out of the u.s. court of appeals for the d.y. circuit. i love the way they also came to that same conclusion and clearly said that campaigning for re-election is not a presidential act, therefore, you cannot have presidential

immunity for the things you say and do in the course of the campaign. >> will this hold up this ruling on appeal, because it's going to be appealed before the march trial date. >> it will be appealed and that's the interesting thing, judge chutkan's decision is going to be appealed to the very court that also had a similar ruling today. so i think what many of us are looking for is to see what happens in terms of whether it ultimately gets to the supreme court where we could have those nine justices actually weigh in on this issue. >> we're like 340 days away from a presidential election. the time line of all this is really intense. let's go down to georgia because in georgia trump's lawyer made the argument the charges against him ought to be thrown out on first amendment grounds, which an argument the judge already rejected with other defendants, so why is he trying this again? >> well, i think a lot of this now, as you know is to preserve issues for appeal. they don't raise them at the various levels of trial and in motions, they'll lose the right

to raise them later, so even though the judge has ruled against these same type of arguments against other defendants, each defendant is different and so they're going to take their shot. we can anticipate that judge mcafee is going to be consistent. i don't see any reason for him to rule any differently on the issue this time around. but there were some other creative arguments again today in terms of how having this trial in the middle of the election will be the greatest election interference occasion ever known, and so the irony in that, i think can't be lost given the fact that we are talking about one of the greatest election interference challenges in georgia and really on january 6th. >> there's so much more to unpack and there will be many other opportunities for you and i to converse. gwen, see you again soong. >> i look forward to it. thanks. you know, we lost a giant in the law today.

justice sandra day o'connor, the first woman to sit on the supreme court of the united states and i'll never forget what she told me the day i had the opportunity to meet her. i'll tell you about it next.

you know, tonight the world remembers the daughter of an arizona rancher who rose to the heights of american law. justice sandra day o'connor was once considered the most powerful woman in the country. the first woman to serve on the united states supreme court. justice o'connor's pivotal opinion shaped the law on issues this this country from affirmative action, abortion, voting rights, and religion and tonight as so many people are sharing their stories and memories, i'd like to share my own. it was back in 2014 when i was

still a federal prosecutor and i was pregnant with my first -- actually my first daughter, my second child, and i was asked if i would want to come and meet the supreme court justice and i could not say yes fast enough. are you kidding me? i would love to meet her. i didn't know what the opportunity would actually mean. i wasn't sure what type of person she would be when you finally meet a kind of hero of yours in the law in those circumstances and when i met her, she was so sweet, so kind, so humble. what i loved most is what she said to me about my pregnancy. when we spoke, she asked me what i was having and i was a month away from having a little girl, and i said as much and she said, oh, thank god, now let her be a lawyer. even in that moment as she touched my belly and empowered and thought to tell me ways to empower my own daughter, it was indicative who she was as a supreme court justice.

now, of course, if you knew my little girl, you'd know the next part is entirely true as well. because my daughter kicked out, kicking and she just took it in stride and commented on the spunk that she really did end up having. and it's her legacy for women and my own daughter that i want to remember tonight. she joined the court just under a decade after roe was decided by a court of 12 women -- 12 men, excuse me, and was pivotal in protecting the right to abortion in 1992's planned parenthood versus casey and would see to see the high court overturn roe v. wade and upend the right to reproductive care that endured for decades that spurred a new generation of women into politics. women like my next guest, who was forced to travel from her home state of tennessee to new york to end a pregnancy that was putting her life at risk. well, now she's running for state office in her home

district to make sure other women don't have to go through what she went through. allie phillips joins me now. what happened that has led you to know now that you want to be in politics? >> that is a loaded question. i had no interest in being in politics until what happened to me happened, and it really wasn't just one thing. it was my story of being diagnosed a fatal pregnancy and not being age to get the health care in tennessee having to fly to new york city only to find out my daughter died in utero at some point in that time frame to then hearing story after story coming out of texas and florida and idaho and i say it was the 10-year-old girl in ohio who had to travel across state lines because i have a 6-year-old daughter and i couldn't imagine the trauma that a little girl at that age had to go through to get an abortion and it was that

amongst many other things that truly pushed me to make the decision, nobody is going to fight for my daughter and myself the way i will and i need to step up and i need to make sure nobody else faces what i went through. if i have anything to do about it i'll make sure it doesn't happen. >> you actually tried to work with your existing mom makers trying to advocate with them to get the objectives met, and that did not satisfy you. it did not, in fact, culminate in any achievable, measurable goal. >> it truly kind of solidified what we already knew about our super majority gop men here in tennessee. i met with my current representative who is now my opponent for two hours, and he said to me that he only thought the first pregnancies could go bad referring to the fact that this was my second pregnancy and first loss and on top of that,

he had -- i tried to humanize my story because he has a daughter, not too much younger than i am and pretty much said if he had the same situation as me the way he grew up is he would tell her he thinks she should continue her pregnancy and that if she got an abortion he wouldn't be happy about it so for me all that said was that you don't even care about your own daughter's life. how are you going to care about your constituents and the rest of the tennesseans and i think along with that, i was like, you know, we hear that these pro-life republican men truly don't understand women's health care but when you're sitting across the take two feet from one of them and hearing what they actually have to say and the little bit they do know, if anything at all, it's terrifying knowing that they're voting on these laws. >> have you heard from other potential candidates or other women across the country and men also who have shared in the experience that you have talked about with your own husband that are now deciding why not me?

>> i have, and i've been very fortunate with the outpour of support i've received with sharing my story online. there have been a few women who i've spoken with personally who said that my story and my inspiration and ideas for running inspired them to look into it themselves. i don't know if they're going to run in 2024. i don't know, you know, when their cycle is going to be the best time for them, but the fact that they're thinking about it just says how powerful just a single story can be and how persuasive it can make others. you know what, i have a story like this. i don't like my current representative. i think i have better ideas that can take care of my neighbors. and so i think we're going to see more people step up. >> well, as they say, allie, people think abortion will be on the ballot if not in real ink,

maybe invisible ink but spurred people who want their names on the ballot to make sure they can be the change they want to see in the world. thanks for joining us. >> thank you so much. coming up, cnn's presentation of hbo's "overtime with bill maher."

first time i connected with kim, she told me that her husband had passed. and that he took care of all of the internet connected devices in the home. i told her, “i'm here to take care of you.” connecting with kim... made me reconnect with my mom. it's very important to keep loved ones close. we know that creating memories with loved ones brings so much joy to your life. a family trip to the team usa training facility. i don't know how to thank you. i'm here to thank you. well, now let's turn it over to our friends at hbo, because, you know, every friday after "real time with bill maher" they answer questions about topics in the national conversation. here is "overtime with bill

maher." [ applause ] >> okay, welcome to "realtime" on cnn here with podcast james carville and dave rubin. okay, here are the questions, for dave, what did you think of elon musk's trip to israel? do you think he no longer harbors anti-semitic and conspiracy torial beliefs. >> he never had any anti-semitic -- there are plenty of anti-semites. elon musk was great. i think too many people now don't believe anything they see but they do believe elon musk so him going there and say i saw the 47 minutes of footage wearing dog tags of -- from one of the families that lost their kids. there's a lot of anti-semites but elon musk is not one of them. >> that may be true, i -- [ applause ]

i mean, look, he is a hard guy to follow all the time. i tried and this did test my patience because he may not abben anti-semite but when someone tweets what they tweeted and he tweets you have spoken the actual truth, it looks anti-semitic. [ applause ] i mean, come on. >> i don't know how -- but the comment -- >> what is the comment? >> the comment he was responding to was about that there are left-wing brought up as jewish organizations like the adl aiming their fire the wrong way all the time so they're attacking him as opposed to attacking the people that are actually -- >> no, i think -- >> that the -- >> my understanding he was supporting the idea that what we heard -- >> you're exactly right. it was the greatest act of jew washing i've ever seen. [ laughter ] >> i've never heard that term.

>> it's what you do when you screw up. i mean, come on. look, i have no idea. the last thing i want to do is pick a fight with a phi worth a trillion dollars but that dude is weird, man. [ laughter and applause ] >> james, famous said it's the economy, stupid but voters respond to positive economic news and voters don't seem to be responding to positive economic news in the polls. how do you explain. >> 60% of the republicans believe the earth is 6,000 years old. >> that's not a good answer. >> i'm just -- polls, all right, look, 5.6% growth. all right, by any record, now, people don't feel it in -- look, i think we should have made a change. you and i agree on that, and i don't know how much of it is that they can't see beyond the president. i mean, the cost of living has

hurt people, but you just can't look at this economy and go, i wouldn't say this is a bad economy. that's impossible. >> but that's not really what you want to tell the voters. >> i found that running for office. i'm answering a question. [ laughter ] i wasn't answering for -- [ applause ] >> the reason you're on a show is because you're a known strategist so we're asking for your strategy and it's to tell the voters you don't know what you're talking about and it's not a good way to get elected and i'm not a strategist. >> i would not say that. >> you just said it to me. [ laughter ] >> i know, but -- >> here's what i think it is, the things that -- like you can cite the statistics and, yes, inflation is going down, it's going in the right direction but the things that -- the things people buy every day in this country, bullet, eggs. [ laughter ] gas. >> gas is down. >> not here.

>> i'm just telling you, the price of gas -- we produce more -- we pump more oil than we ever have in history. anyway, we pump more oil in saudi arabia, just so you know, but if you ask people, do you think that the democrats and biden -- oh, yeah, of course, he is 100%. i can't -- the fact that people believe something doesn't make it a fact. there's a big story in "the wall street journal." the crime rate has dropped significantly, try to tell -- argue with someone but the crime for 100,000 was 738 and down to 362 or something like that. yeah, you sit here and i'm a factual klutz because somebody believes something that's not true. i don't buy that. >> okay. well then we'll move. [ laughter ]

mike -- [ laughter and applause ] >> so, mike johnson, he's from your home state of louisiana, the speaker of the house. he wrote a foreword that describes conspiracy terrorists and home foe -- homophobic -- do you think he can hold his party together now that he's taken the mantle? >> first of all, i don't think he can hold his party, second of all, you're exactly right, mike johnson and what he believes is one of the greatest threats we have today to the united states. [ applause ] i promise you, i know these people. >> you're talking about christian nationalism. >> absolutely. this is a bigger threat than al qaeda to this country.

let me tell you something, speak of the house, they got probably -- at least two supreme court justices, maybe more, right, don't kid yourself. people in the press have no idea who this guy is, how he was formed, what the threat is and this is a fundamental threat to the united states. it is a fundamental -- they don't believe in the constitution and will tell you that. mike johnson says what is democracy but two wools and a lamb having lunch. that's what they really, really believe and to say, oh, come on, man, that's some crazy -- no, no, they believe that and they're coming and they've been doing it forever. they're funded. they're funded. they're relentless. and, you know, they probably won't win for awhile, but they might and if they do, you blow the whole country blows a gasket >> look at that painting. i think it's a kincade painting where jesus is handing the

constitution to thomas jefferson. [ laughter ] i mean if you can look at that and go, that's the way it probably happened. [ laughter ] >> i know it well. >> no. [ laughter ] is the rise of anti-immigration dutch politician gert will dersi remember interviewing him, a warning to the liberals that they need to take our immigration crisis more seriously? so, if you don't follow the story, he had been running forever in holland. you know, of course, "the new york times" calls him a far rightist. they call all these people, i mean meloni in italy is another one, viktor orban is kind of a far rightest in hungary but some of them are just brexit in england was part of this. people are feeling they are not welcome almost in their own home because of the kind of immigration that these people

are fighting against, so -- >> most of these people are not far right in that they're like racist. i actually met with orban in budapest and all he kept saying is you know i love hungary, that's all. i love my country. i don't know what accent that was but that basically -- [ laughter ] >> it's a dead-on impression. can you do his walk? >> he kind of dozen a little bit of a waddle. gert wilders wants holland to be for the dutch. when we see -- that's racist. that's what they would tell you, no, no, you meant that literally. >> no, i don't know what we're talking about. but -- [ laughter ] i was just going to say dutch for the dutch, i would amend that if it was me, dutch values. >> dutch values. >> you don't have to be dutch, you don't have to be white. that's what i think go america. it's the idea. as long as you subscribe to our idea, which, again to your point and what i was saying at the end of the show, that we're not a

christian nation, that's not what -- the country where we have the first amendment then everybody should be welcome. >> it's not about skin color but it is about culture. >> cull sure matters. >> all of these people whether in france or belgium or any country you mentioned are real realizing, wow, we have millions on our borders chanting for genocide an gas the jews and doesn't stop with the jews. they were at the christmas tree in times square a day or two ago and people are realizing that and they always come with crazy hair that will fix some of this stuff. >> i think your question was, election in the netherlands is -- >> a horror binger -- >> do you want a sharp truth answer? >> yes. >> yes, it does. okay? it does. because people -- but understand this, people like immigrants. okay. what they don't like is disorder and when you become the disorder

party, whatever it is, you pay a price. now, one of the reasons that we have this problem, this is what 3.6 unemployment does for you. do you think we're the only people that know that. if you got a woman that lives in honduras and walks with a 10-year-old and 6-year-old to the mexico border and wants to come into the country, come on in, lady. you motivated person. we need you, period. >> no, no, you can't come. we have a border. we have a border. we have a country. you either have a country or you don't. >> every border had refugees. every border has asylum. >> you can't just let them walk in. that's what the issue is. >> i'm for a -- somebody walks with two kids 600 miles to come in this country, i got a job for you lady. come see me. find me one rule -- i was born in the united states. >> i got a job and that means getting out on time. thank you, cnn. thank you, everybody. [ applause ]

>> well, you can watch "realtime with bill" on friday nights on hbo at 10:00 p.m. and watch "overtime" friday nights at 11:30. you know, today marks the 68th anniversary of the no that sparked the civil rights movement. rosa parks' niece joins me next.

it was 68 years ago that rosa parks boarded a bus in montgomery, alabama, took a seat and refused to give it up for a white man. it led to her arrest and her brave act of defiance helped

launch the civil rights movement. there is a push to declare this very day, december 1st, rosa parks day, a federal holiday. joining me to reflect is rosa parks' niece sheila mccauley keys. if it were to come to pass and i'm looking at a painting of your aunt, as well, how beautiful is that to have in your home. it would be, if it were to come to pass, the first federal holiday to honor a woman in this country. that is surprising. what would this mean to you and your family? >> you know what, it would mean to all of us, we would be so pleased, because she was one person that would be so deserving of this, and i just wish she could be here to see

it, but we would, you know, really, really appreciate if this were to pass, because her life and her legacy, she's very much deserving of this, this honor. >> you know, sheila, for so many people, they know who rosa parks, the civil rights figure and heroine really is, but you another her as auntie. talk to me a little about the human being behind the movement, the woman who, you know, we talk about who is deserving of the praise and the legacies that follow. she was a woman. she was a person, who said no was a complete sentence. tell me about her behind the scenes. >> well, i would like to simply

say that she was a person that knew the power that an economic boycott could have. she had an analytical mind. she could think things through. she could come up with solutions or a solution, you know, if need be, and she was actually prepared for what happened that day on the bus in 1955. it just didn't happen, you know, by accident. she, you know, was not a little old tired lady getting off work. she was a young married woman of faith. she was only 42 years old, so that would make her by today's standard like a modern-day millennial so our auntie rosa was a force to be reckoned with, and she knew that the importance of economic empowerment. she knew that that should be the foundation of this country if it

were to be successful, so that meant empowering all of its citizens, and that was true in 1955, and it's still true today in 2023. so -- >> yeah. sheila, what a -- >> she had insight -- uh-huh. >> i mean, the insight, the foresight. >> thank you. >> thinking about her as just tired that day and happening upon a movement diminishes really the intellect, the power, and so many reasons to honor her today and, frankly, revery day. thank you, sheila. glad we got a chance to speak to you. >> and thank you. thank you for having me on.. we wilill be r right back.k.

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