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doesn't tolerate an assault on our government on the foundations of our government and maine election law and the constitution required indeed obligated me to act. these are decisions that are part of my obligations and part of my duty and that is what i'm compelled to do by the constitution. >> compelled by the constitution. maine removed government from the gop primary. now he faces two legal challenges to his 2024 campaign. what that means for this election as the supreme court faces another consequential case. breaking overnight, russia launching what ukraine calls the largest aerial assault. the east, the west, the capital all hit. nearly a dozen killed. ukraine renewing this morning its calls for international help. and the battle at the border pitting democrats against general motors. local leaders stepping up pleas for federal help over the wave of migrants seeking asylum.
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the mayors of some of the biggest and bluest cities joins us this hour. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. ♪ and morning the pressure is mounting for the supreme court to step in after maine joined colorado in throwing donald trump off the ballot. just like the colorado supreme court maine's top election official deciding trump engaged in an insurrection on january 6th and should be disqualified under the constitution. >> it is unprecedented. no secretary of state has ever deprived a presidential candidate of ballot access based on section 3 of the 14th amendment. but no presidential candidate has ever engaged in insurrection. >> trump's attorneys are vowing to appeal. we are waiting to see if the supreme court will take up that historic ruling in colorado which of course could have an impact in maine and keeping a close watch on oregon.
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a decision there could be coming soon in another major lawsuit also trying to disqualify trump on the same grounds. >> katelyn polantz is tracking it for us. what happens next? >> well, phil, erica, it's very possible the courts will be springing into action here because now we have two states, maine and colorado, deciding that donald trump is not eligible to be on their primary election ballots. that's much different than other states, including states lake california and michigan this week that decided, no, we are not going to remove him from the ballot. this decision yesterday in maine came from the secretary of state shenna bellows. here is a little bit about why she believes she was able to do this. >> the oath i swore to uphold the constitution comes first and foremost. the textual analysis of the constitution and the facts laid before me at the hearing that i was obligated to hold under
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maine law brought me to this decision. >> now, shenna bellows is the secretary of state in maine. she found that donald trump engaged in insurrection that january 6th, 2021, that riot at the capitol was an insurrection and it was her responsibility to determine that trump was not qualified to be a candidate on the ballot there in maine but there is the possibility of a lot of chaos and a lot of questions which is why the courts are very likely to be involved here. trump in maine is likely go to the state courts to ask them to figure it out by the end of january. if shenna bellows is right here that he can be removed and also in colorado that other state that is removing him from the ballot after a court decision there, that is now before the u.s. supreme court. legal 2024 coming in hot. >> i want to ask you about this exclusive new reporting that you and your colleagues have showing this really this frantic rush by
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the trump team in the days leading up to january 6th. all of this hinging on kenneth chesebro. what more have you learned here? >> he is a lawyer who wasn't talking. we didn't hear his story until now. what happened was he was very close lipped about what happened with the fake electors, how they came together, how the trump campaign was supporting them, what they were doing to try to block transfer of power. he pleaded guilty, started talking to prosecutors and talked to prosecutors in michigan of which we at cnn were able to obtain the audio, also able to see some emails he was on at the very ends of the push to get the fake electors and that is where this story focuses. it is about how right before january 6th, january 4th, into the late hours of that night, january 5th, there was a very
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big concern of chesebro as well as a lawyer with the trump campaign and another man work with the trump campaign and them, they were afraid that the ballots weren't going to make it into the hands of mike pence on time to support donald trump and so they considered chartering flight. they talked about that. they ultimately put people on planes to hand carry those ballots and get them couriered over to the capitol building before the morning of january 6th so that they could try to get those fake electors there. on time because the mail was just not that reliable for them in those final moments. here's ken chesbro explaining a little bit more. >> this is like, yeah, this is a high level decision to get the michigan and wisconsin votes there. and they had to enlist, you know, a u.s. senator to try to expedite it to get it to -- get to pence in time. >> so really if an illuminating
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scramble of what was happening to move the fake elector ballots for trump into washington, d.c., to help that plot on january 6th. chesbro still believes what he was doing was legal. others are discansing themselves. >> joining us adam kinzinger. appreciate your time. i want to start with maine which follows colorado. what's your read on what we saw last night and what this means going forward? >> yeah, i mean, look, this is ultimately again all of these cases is going to have to be adjudicated in the u.s. supreme court. we can debate what is the 14th amendment, does it cover donald trump, does it not, there is compelling cases on both sides and the courts just have to make that decision. i don't think we want to be -- colorado is a little different that made it through to the supreme court. the supreme court made that decision.
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obviously, maine will have to go that way. i don't like the idea of, you know, a secretary of state, frankly, from a different party making a decision to keep a presidential candidate off a lith ballot. that opens a real pandora's box. that said, she did her job, made the best decision she did. it will have to work through the courts there. no matter what happens here, the bottom line is the u.s. supreme court, like them, love them, hate them, they will make the decision on what the 14th amendment means in this case. >> what if they don't make a full decision? i ask because elie honig, our cnn senior legal analyst, said this last night, i was talking to him about it this morning, he is not convinced at the supreme court is going to take up this issue of what it means to engage in an insurrection. we are paring the push back donald trump wasn't charged, donald trump was not criminally convicted of an insurrection, so, therefore, this cannot apply. if they don't address that, i mean, major chaos could ensue.
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>> yeah, absolutely. and, i mean, look, they are going to have to -- and if they don't, i don't know what it actually looks like, what the result of, you know, not taking this up looks like. i mean, you just have the patchwork of ballots, do people have to wrut -- mine, who knows? maybe there is a technicality, whatever. the reality is, look, the supreme court has hesitated to get in disputes wean the legislative and executive branches, between states and federal government. but in this case they have to do that. the whole point of the supreme court is to determine what the laws are when there is basically different viewpoints of it. i mean, we have 300 some million people in the country and two parties that are very far apart. obviously, you will have disputes. if they don't take the cases up, i think they are not following their jobs. so, hopefully, they do and, you know, people -- half the country is going to love what they say, half will hate it, but at least we will have an answer. >> on the politics, trump's
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campaign responded saying biden and the democrats don't trust the american voter in a free and fair election. i have spoken to biden campaign folks about this. they hate this happening because they know it feeds directly into a narrative that has been pushed politically. what do you think comes of this? >> yeah, i mean, lack, it's -- the people that believe that when the trump campaign says that are the same 30% that believe him when says vladimir putin is a great guy, when he says, you know, that all his lies. literally a lie every day. so i'm not worried about that kind of infecting the mainstream voter. but, you know, yeah, i think the reality is, he's going to be able to have a point to say, look, they are coming after me in justice, come afghaniter me way. i think the vast majority of people understand that donald trump is a corrupt man. they may vote for him unfortunately based on economic
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indicators or something like, but i don't think there is anybody that hasn't had their mind made up about this. we'll see. keep in mind, you talk about not trusting the voters. this is the man that tried to overthrow the of voters and continues to say he doesn't trust the results of an election. and that's to me saying he doesn't trust the voters, doesn't trust anything. we'll see what comes of that. if i was with the biden campaign i wouldn't lose too much sleep on that argument. >> speaking of the events of a couple of years ago, we have new reporting, new exclusive reporting from our colleagues here at cnn, audio of kenneth chesebro as he goes into detail about this last minute scramble to get the electors to mike pence to, hopefully, carry out this plan and there is new detail, too, on some of the lawmakers involved. as you learn more about this -- and i know you know a heck of a lot based on your experience, what's your reaction to more of this coming out at this point? >> yeah, i mean, just piles on.
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i felt like the january 6th committee, we had very compelling arguments in this case. i feel like we made a very compelling case. i also knew that all we're doing is we were handing the baton to jack smith. here's what we found out. i think this would hold up in court. now you have all these different tools to get different nngs information and that's what he is doing now. i wish we had this information when we went to the public with our findings. it makes me proud of what we did on the committee because i think jack smith has a -- i mean, the indications i'm seeing here, pretty open and shut case and it's pretty obviously criminal. it's clearly an attempt to overthrow an election. and so i'm sitting here saying -- i am not somebody that loves the idea of going after the last administration ebx is ept in this case we couldn't be a country that allows an attempted coup to happen, as long as it fails, it's okay.
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if it succeeds, it takes away any incentive for a future president to not try to do the same things. >> what we saw overnight in ukraine, we have spoken about the u.s. support and what it means and the conflict itself. the scale of the russian air assaults last night, the missiles. was it something -- ukrainians saying they haven't seen it since the start of the war. what do you make of the tactical -- the strategy playing out from the russian side right now? >> well, it's pure evil. this man lost 350,000 troops in two years. he has lost 500 men a day. in five days, he has lost what the u.s. lost in 20 years in afghanistan and we came home with our tail tucked between our legs. he is going to lose, if ukraine can hold out, the united states have -- the republicans have got to give on the issue of ukraine. the democrats give on the border. they are not related, but give on the border. you need to do that anyway. this has got to get done.
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this will be the greatest embarrassment abdication of our position as a superpower if we let ukraine fall apart on this. this is absolutely a no-brainer. by the way, the money we are giving to ukraine, we are not driving over pallets of cash as some have you believe. we are putting a value on our weapons that are going to time out anyway because we have to replace them. otherwise, we throw them in the junkyard, blow them up, do whatever we have to do. now we are letting ukraine do it and replace our old weapons. look, the republicans have been lying to the american people about what our aid is and the administration has got to do a much better job of selling this because i haven't seen joe biden sell this once in two weeks. >> yeah, certainly be the debate that congress is facing when they come back, replacement arms, manufactured in the united states of america. adam kinzinger, appreciate your time. maine secretary of state shenna bellows will join us live
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to explain why she made the decision in maine and foughtout. nikki haley in damage control mode after initially responding to a question about what caused the civil war by not saying slavery. so what's the new answer? >> and it's a battle over a surge at the border. three ma-- the mayors of new yo, chicago and denver will join us live.
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. gop rivals nikki haley and chris christie set to host dueling events in new hampshire this morning and later haley headed back to iowa.
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she is trying to clarify and clean up her comments over the last 24 hours or so after a voter asked her a question about what the cause was for the civil war. >> what was the cause of the united states civil war? >> well, don't come with an easy question, right? i mean, i think the cause of the civil war was basically how government was gonna run. the freedoms and what people could and couldn't do. >> 2023, it's astonish being to me you answer that question without mentioning the word slavery. >> what do you want me to say about slavery? >> cnn's eve a mckenna is live in new hampshire this morning. so that was dominating her day yesterday in the granite state. this is a critical moment for her there. she was gaining that momentum in polling. what are we hearing this morning? >> reporter: good morning to you from rainy concord.
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listen, her rivals aren't making it easy but she is doing the best she can to move on from this. she addressed this at a radio program. mentioned it during a campaign stop but didn't say much after that. take a listen to how she is responding. >> i'm from south. of course you know it's about slavery. i guess if you grow up in the south, it's a given it's about leifry. it was definitely a democrat plan. >> reporter: so new hampshire voters that we speak to, mostly seem to be satisfied by her cleanup here. one man telling us that he felt like the question was intentionally posed to trip her up. another woman telling us she is not focused on this. she is focused on where haley stands on a number of policy matters. another woman says she is proud to support haley in the primary and that she feels as though women are underestimated. so she is getting a lot of support here on the ground.
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there was one tough question though that she did receive last night in lebanon, a man suggesting that she needed to be redeemed from this whole episode and could she give a forthright answer on this question if she doesn't win a nomination, would she consider serving as trump's vice presidential pick. she didn't outright deny that, didn't say she wouldn't. she only said something that she repeatedly often says on the trail, which is that she doesn't play for second place. but haley will continue on the trail today. she is going to be in concord later it this morning. we'll see if this comes up there. then after here in new hampshire she is going to head back to iowa. >> thank you. joining us is pollster and communication strategist frank. appreciate your time. to start with, the kind of 24-hour cleanup clarification and then try to move on, it's tried and true.
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many a candidate, including those of both races, have done it. was nikki haley successful in what you saw yesterday? >> we won't know. the fact that we are having this conversation right now a day later suggests that it's not been completely successful. but in the end, voters will determine what matters to them. i can ashar you without any doubt whatsoever that in new hampshire the cause of the civil war is not the first, the second, or even the tenth most important issue. the challenge for haley right now is that she had opinion gaining and gaining every single day. donald trump's lead in iowa, in new hampshire, in south carolina was so significant, but it had begun to crumble over last month or so because of nikki haley's performances in the debates. so any time focused on anything but where she stands on the issues of today is damaging to
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her campaign. make no mistake. there will be at least two debates between now and the new hampshire vote. those debates will be absolutely critical and people will forget what we're talking about this morning. >> in terms of where she stands and this did coming up at a desantis event, important to point that out, josh kimbrel was weighing in on this and where nikki haley stands not just on this issue, but on issues broadly. take a listen. >> because if you get nikki haley, you are going to get a lot of political -- i say that as a south carolinian. i have nothing personal against her. it's not a personal thing for me. she is a nice lady if you meet her. depending which person you meet. >> can she -- >> i am not surprised. >> go ahead. >> i am not surprised. this is where things get vicious, perm, everyone has a point of view and they are trying to bring people down. the much bigger question right now for republicans is who is
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most likely to defeat president biden and what's critical for republicans is whether anyone at this point in the campaign, because we are only 18 days from iowa, and 26 days from new hampshire. whether anyone has the ability to catch donald trump and is it truly viable in the republican contest. >> and what's your sense of that? >> you know, i have been polling and focus grouping right up to christmas eve. it's amazing to me that the former president continues to do as well as he has done with all these indictments, with all this criminality that's -- and the chaos that surrounds him, and the fact that manhattan has now kicked him off their ballot. make no mistake. i say this to your viewers very carefully. every knock on donald trump in the primary process makes him more likely, not less, to be the republican nominee.
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and no president, no candidate for president has ever lost a nomination in modern history with the kind of lead that donald trump has. but no one has ever had the legality, the chaos, the court cases and the felonies that donald trump is facing. so at this point i iowa looks like a slam dunk for trump, close to 50%. new hampshire is much more up for grabs. everyone is talking about nikki haley. chris christie's also drawing 10, 12, 14% in the polls. the candidate that seems to have disappeared in all of this is the florida governor ron desantis. if the opposition can coalesce around a single candidate, that gives donald trump a run for his money. but it hasn't happened yet. and so at this point trump is still the prohibitive favorite. >> frank luntz, thank you. >> thank you. more on that decision in
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maine to kick donald trump off the presidential primary ballot. the person who made that decision, main secretary of state shenna bellows joins us next. watch this view, huge waves pound the california coast. derek van dam with the latest on this danger today. >> yeah, rogue waves are dangerous, unpredict nl and they can cause a lot of destruction and get people taken off guard very quickly. what a rogue wave? it's when ground or ocean swell actually meets an opposing surface wave from a storm system off the pacific coast in this particular case. it can i do namically join together, rapidly shorten the wavelength between the waves. the result is a large rogue wave that can crash upon the shoreline, sweeping feet from underneath people, and of course be extremely dangerous for residents. we have the potential for larger waves along the entire california coastline through the
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the decision for maine secretary of state to remove donald trump from the republican primary ballot is drawing harsh criticism. the gop leader in the maine house called it a sham decision and warned it will not stand legal scrutiny. the republican senate leader says the decision undermines democracy and maine voters deserve a primary process that allows for each party to decide its own candidates. the maine gop said it will appeal that decision. here's what the party chairman told cnn last night. >> she has kicked a serious hornet's nest. i heard from independents, democrats and republicans alike. this isn't about donald trump. this is about our constitutional rights and the ability of the american people to elect into leadership the people they choose. >> and maine's secretary of state shenna bellows joins us now. good to have you with us this morning. i am sure you had seen and heard much of that criticism and more. how do you respond this morning?
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>> good morning. thank you for having me. i think it's really important that people understand the process. as a general matter, states have the power to control their own ballots and, in fact, do under the constitution. and maine law specifically delegates to me as secretary of state a requirement to review the qualifications for any candidate running for office. so, for example, last week the superior court found my decision to bar mr. chris christie from maine's presidential primary ballot due to lack of signatures was lawful and correct. my job, i qualified mr. trump for the ballot and under maine law any registered voter bring a challenge to that qualification. in this case, there were three challenges and i was required by law to hold a hearing , an administrative hearing to review the evidence, hear testimony. both sides were represented by
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council. mr. trump was represented by an attorney and i'm required to issue a decision. that's my obligation under the oath i swore under the constitution. >> in terms of the you criticism that your decision takes away the right for voters to have their voice heard, do you believe that's a valid concern? >> again, my first and foremost obligation is my oath to uphold the constitution and the rule of law. different states are different. for example, our neighboring new hampshire, they are more than a dozen candidates on the democratic presidential ballot. and there are more than a dozen republican candidates in maine. there are two candidates on the democratic presidential primary ballot and less than a dozen republican presidential candidates. so every state is different. my obligation and duty, my sole consideration is my oath to uphold the constitution. >> as you note in laying out there, how things work in maine. given the amount of push back
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you have seen to doing your job as laid out in the state constitution, do you anticipate there could be a legislative challenge in the future to the duties of the secretary of state in maine? >> so, again, with the process, this decision now goes to the superior court. then -- >> right i mean with your role, not in the way this lays out maine state law, but given the push back you are hearing, including from folks in your own state, who know what your role is and what the state constitution of maine lays it out to be in the state, do you anticipate that there could be some sort of a legislative challenge to that role or even to the state constitution? >> so the legislature can always change the laws. i would be surprised if they directed me to stop enforcing qualifications for office. some have suggested that i can't enforce age, residency, citizenship, the 22nd amendment. i don't think that i'm permitted
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to put an 18-year-old on the ballot or a non-citizen on the ballot. my job is to look at the quality kagss and if those qualifications are challenged, to make a determination that the. there is also a court process. the legislature, if they change that, i will absolutely add here and follow the law. >> you argue that donald trump engaged in insurrection. you held a public hearing ahead of the decision. it's interesting to note democratic congressman from maine jared golden said in a statement until he is found guilty of the crime of insurrection, he should be allowed on the ballot. did that consideration weigh on your decision or give you any pause? >> i reviewed section 3 of the 14th amendment very carefully and determined that section 3 of the 14th amendment does not say conviction. it says engagd and the events o january 6th were unprecedented
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and tragic. this was an attack not only on the capitol and government officials, former vice president, members of congress, an attack on the rule of law. and the weight of evidence that i reviewed indicated that it was in fact an insurrection and mr. trump engaged in that insurrection under section 3 of the 14th amendment. >> we are waiting to see if the supreme court will take up this colorado case. i know you mentioned the colorado case in your decision. when you look at where things stand, there is a question around senior legal analysts bringing this up, he doesn't believe if the supreme court takes this up they will in fact rule on what engaging in an insurrection needs, whether there needs to be criminality with it. if they do not, are you concerned about the fallout? >> i will always implement what the court decides. and this type of proceed is not unusual. it's part of my duties in maine under maine election law.
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in 2023, for example, i held a similar hearing on the qualifications of a district attorney candidate. found him unqualified. that was appealed to. the court upheld my ruling. i mentioned mr. chris christie just last week. superior court finding i made the right decision in barring him from the ballot under maine law. but i will always uphold what the court does and it's part of the job of being secretary of state. should the u.s. supreme court rule that mr. trump be on the ballot, i will place him on the ballot. it's part of why i suspended the effect much my decision until the courts can act. so no ballots are being printed until that superior court decision or supreme court decision might come down, although we are looking at a tight timeframe. >> it's is. yes or no. do you think this can get done in time? >> i think so. >> shenna bellows, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. the mayors of major cities the u.s. are asking the federal
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government for help as migrants are sent from the border to their states and cities. the mayors of new york, denver and chicago will join us next to discuss. top white house off
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and mexican counterparts set to continue border talks next month
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in the u.s., democratic mayors are stepping up pleas for more federal help over the wave of migrants seeing asylum. >> for many months we were able to keep the visualization of this crisis from hitting our streets, but we have reached the breaking point. >> all of our cities have reached a point where we are either close to capacity or nearly out of room. >> we need more federal support to be able to manage this amount of inflow. it is crush city budgets around the country. >> since last year texas republican governor greg abbott bussed more than 80,000 migrants to cities including denver, new york and chicago. let's take a look a closer look at the numbers in those cities. take denver which has received more than 35,000 migrants. the mayor says the city will potentially spend 10% of its budget on migrant shelter and aid next year. new york city, which has received 161,000 migrants, the
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influx will cost 12 bill billion over three years. in chicago 26,000 migrant arrivals, the shelter system reached capacity. joining us are the mayors of those three cities, mike johnston, brandon johnson, eric adams. gentlemen, appreciate your time. mayor adams, you met with white house officials earlier this month, called the meeting quote very productive. has there been follow-up? what do you need most now from the federal government? >> first of all, i want to commend my colleagues both the mayor of depp and the mayor of chicago because this national crisis is impacting and has the potential to destabilize the financial obligation that we have in our cities. and the meeting with the white house i think much more could be done, and with all of our national leaders from a decompression strategy to making sure that the cost of this is not falling in the laps of everyday taxpayers in our cities. it's not just about new york city. it is all of these cities that
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are being impacted were brownsville, el paso, houston, chicago, new york, denver. this is really an issue that just you are seeing play out on streets of our cities. >> mayor brandon johnson, you know, we spoke to you a couple of days ago about this issue as well. the words breaking point are consistently used in border towns and more in the internal areas of the country right now. what does that mean? is it just a money thing? is it a capacity thing? what does breaking point actually mean for people who want to understand this? >> yeah, what it means is, is that, you know, we have infrastructure in our local communities that are not designed to carry such a burden. local municipalities are not structured to be able to carry the weight of a crisis like this. and i've sent a delegation to the border to see firsthand what
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our bordering cities are experiencing. and what we have said repeatedly is there has to be better coordination. and without a coordinated operation, this is going to crush local economies because there is a financial responsibility that we have all taken on. and look, the bottom line is this, at least for my experiences, is that we have a governor in texas that is governing out of fear. and what we need right now, we need sound minds, and that's why i'm grateful for the leadership of mayor eric adams and the leadership of mayor mike johnston because we are working collectively together to be able to bring infrastructure around this crisis. >> mayor johnston, you laid out financial assistance, work permits, better entry plans. specific things you made clear are necessary. to mayor johnson's point, as cynical as may be viewed, had
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governor abbott not done when he has done in terms of busing migrants to interior cities, would it be getting the attention that it's getting right now? >> yeah, i think that the frustrating thing for us is we know this problem is solvable. for americans who lost hope. it's clear there is a path to solve it. that's why we need congress to take action. i think the white house sees the same path to solve it, which is there is nothing more un-americ un-american allowing someone to come to the country, pursue the american dream, and denying a chance to work. everyone that is paroled in the country should have the ability to work, have federal dollars to support them in the cities they arrive in and we should have coordinated national plan for where the folks arrive. mayor johnson talks about america knows how to do this. we helped relocate refugees from ukraine, relocated refugees from afghanistan, had a coordinated system. everyone had work authorization and we had federal support and
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that worked beautifully. we know we can make it work here, too. we want to see the congress do that. we are pushing congress to act on these things. >> what you are referring to with ukraine and afghanistan those be done with executive action if i'm correct. is that -- is the administration falling short on that? >> well, part of the challenges we know we need federal resources also. that's where the supplemental budget at the president pushed is held up in congress right now. the break point as mayor johnson described is when you talk about 10% of the budget to allocate for cities on this that is unsustainable. every single hotel room in the city full of migrants arrived that's unsustainable. the federal resources are what the congress held up. along with that congress could directly sthorize the resources needed to accelerate that work authorization. right now you come to america, you get an asylum claim but that court date for your asylum claim is four years out right now because these judges don't have the capacity at the border to
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adjudicate those issues quickly so we have someone waiting four years without the capacity work for four years. that's also unsaustainable. >> mayor adams, you signed an executive order for charter buses to give 32 hours notice. do you have the second order effects of that? i understand your rationale for doing it. you laid it out clearly. what is that meaning in practice and does this mean buses may be dropping people off outside of the city in new york? >> well, it's about collaboration and turning disorder into order. we have to orderly run the cities, and i new mayor johnson stated how we're coming together not only as the three mayors here, but also governor of massachusetts and the mayors of houston and los angeles and other mayors across the entire country. we want to collaborate together. we know this is a national problem. and one of the initiatives we are doing with the executive order we're saying that between
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a certain period of time you are allowed to drop off migrants in the city, but you are going to do it at the location we specify could so we don't overtax resources, manpower and create a disorderly environment. the question you ask is significant. what does breaking point look like? it's loo looks like the police class, stopping trash pickup, school programs that will have to be canceled, cancel some library hours, resources that was going into our seniors and older adults. every agency and delivery of service in my city is going to be drastically impacted by the actions of picking up the tab of $5 billion this fiscal year, $12 billion over three years that's coming out of a substantial amount of our budget. >> mayor johnson, while i know this is a policy issue, this is a human issue. there is also clearly a political element of this. your city is the host.
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democratic national committee in 2024. are you concerned that that will make chicago more of a target on the political side of things and stretch the resources of your city even further? >> well, look, chicago's the greatest city in the entire world. so you know denver and new york has already capitulated to that. look, it's clear. since the dnc was confirmed that it would be in my city, governor abbott has literally sent hundreds of buses to city of chicago. at one point in the summer we had 25, 30 buses showing up every single day without any coordination or notification. the previous administration set up a policy where buses were being dropped off at police districts and put an incredible strain on our police department. i have since cleared all of our police districts. we have set up, you to you know, almost 30 shelters. we are educating 4,500 children,
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providing health care right on site. and it is very evident that you have a governor who is committed to recklessness and lawlessness. we set up parameters a month ago asking the state of texas to coordinate with our city to provide the type of structure and calm that needed in this crisis and he circumvented that at every hand. he is sending buses outside of the city of chicago. in some instances 100 mice away, people are being dropped off, being told that they are in the city of chicago. literally dropped off in the of. >> right. >> i find that to be inhuman and unconscionable. there are politics at play here. as a country we cannot allow one individual to sow seeds of discord and not be held responsible. >> right. >> sending airplanes to new york and chicago without regulation is quite frankly dangerous. as a country we're going to continue to come together, i'm
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grateful for the leadership of both of our mayors. i have had over 100 mayors in the state of illinois that we have brought together to provide the type of structure and calm that is needed in this crisis, but i want to make this very clear, the international crisis that we are experiencing right now is being subsidized by local economies. that is not sustainable and that's why we need congress to actually have appropriations to make sure that what refugees from ukraine receive, we have to ask our question why aren't those same support services being provided for individuals who are coming from the continent of africa and central and south america. >> that's a question congress will have to debate when we come back. mayors eric adams, mike johnson, brandon johnson, i'm not going to confirm that there was an agreement when you said that chicago is the greatest city in the world, but we will have to get into that a little later. we appreciate your time, all three of you. thank you. >> wise words from the guy who recently moved to new york, phil mattingly. we are days away from a brand-new year, so are americans
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happy with how 2023 played out? who better than to fill us in than our own harry enten. breaking down the past year, looking ahead to 2024. it's going to be good.
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there is a lot of information out there. hamas is a terrorist group oppressing the palestinian people. hamas refused
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a continued ceasefire, a continued pause in fighting and more aid from israelis in exchange for just freeing more hostages. instead, hamas resumed attacks. not to protect the palestinian people or obtain peace, only to destroy israel. we must stand against hamas and stand with palestinians and israelis for basic human rights. all eyes will be on times square sunday night, at least that's what new yorkers want you to think as we count down to 2024. >> oh. >> this year there are concerns and a serious matter that the israel-hamas war will spark a lone wolf attack. >> we have the security preparations under way.
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>> reporter: new year's eve in new york city. security always tight has been increased this year. while officials stress there is no specific reporting regarding any threats, a joint threat assessment based on analysis from ten law enforcement agencies warns the israel-hamas conflict has created a heightened threat environment, therefore, the intelligence community remains concerned about lone offenders using online platforms to express threats of violence against jewish, muslim and arab communities, as well as committing simple, unsophisticated attacks that are difficult to detect in advance. the assessment obtained by cnn reminds police that massive, live, televised events remain an attractive target for foreign terrorist organizations, as well as domestic violent extremists. it's a threat stream that will be monitored minute to minute leading up to midnight new year's eve, in multiple command
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posts. from the nypd's joint operations center, to its intelligence bureau, to the fbi's joint terrorism task force gathered in an operations center in lower manhattan. >> october 7th was something of a flash point. the horrific attacks on israel and the ongoing war and conflict that's happening right now is -- is certainly motivating and inspiring people to do bad things. >> reporter: last year a 19-year-old man from maine traveled to times square with an attack plan that investigators believe was inspired by online isis propaganda. new york city police say trevor bickford was shot by officers after he attacked three of them with a machete at a times square new year's security checkpoint. bickford has pleaded not guilty and is awaiting trial. the security package not just
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crowd control and traffic, but what they call the counterterrorism overlay includes a network of cameras. nypd countersniper teams in skyscrapers above, bomb detection k-9s moving around the perimeter, dogs that can pick up the whiff of explosives even moving through a crowd 1 4u7b feet away. radiation detectors worn by police on the street and a personally equipped nypd helicopter high above. police are also focused on potential demonstrations. the war between israel and hamas has brought on protests in the new york and clashes with police when some protesters announced their intent to disrupt the lighting of the rockefeller center christmas tree. the live televised event in times square is another potential target for disruption. >> we know what their tactics are. we're going to make some adjustments to our tactics. no one is getting to that ball, i can put it to you that way. >> reporter: but protests and
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even disorder is not what keeps the nypd or the fbi up at night. terrorism is. and while the officials say there is no specific credible threat on their radar, this year they are doing more than ever, they say, to ensure that. john miller, cnn, new york. all right. some of you may be ready to say good-bye to 2023, some of you may be excited for 2024. what do the numbers tell us? only one man knows. cnn's senior data analyst harry enten here. how are the people feeling? >> now are the people feeling? for them 2023 personally, was it filled are more happiness 29%, sadness right there at 29%. equally both 42%. of course, we're tossing 2023 out the window. let's usher in 2024. thank god. thinking about the year ahead, for the world next year are you more optimistic or pessimistic. this is a troubling trend. 60% said they were more optimistic in 2018, 49% in 2021,
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now it's just 40%, pessimism takes the lead at 59%. way up from 37%. but, guys, i have a reason for optimism because american workers who get a paid holiday just 15% for new year's eve but how about new year's day? 90% of us get a paid holiday. there is some pessimism in the world but at least we won't have to work, most of us, on new year's day. >> do you know what makes me optimistic. >> what makes you optimistic? >> harry's face every day at the end of the show. >> happy birthday to my mom. we are not going to reveal how old she is but she birthed me, grew me up. i love you so much. >> a big 21st birthday. >> happy birthday. >> and "cnn news central" starts -- let me look at the clock -- right now. ♪ ♪

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