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president. >> that's not illegal. >> but this historian said that he was not referring to absolute presidential immunity. >> he was talking about a narrow band of national security and domestic security operations, which, for a period of time, could be done in the united states and it not be illegal but even that narrow band, which does not include insurrections, and it does not include burglarizing the democratic national committee or your opponents headquarters, that narrow band, ultimately was removed i congress. >> many legal analyst believe that the supreme court will weigh in on whether donald trump has presidential immunity. the question is when because there are of course appeals that play in these cases. to our viewers, thanks for watching. i'm with blitzer in the situation room.
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erin burnett out front starts right now. >> outfront, the breaking news, united airlines says inspectors have found loose bolts on more boeing airplane doors, the same type of planes that have the mid air disaster with the door blowing out on that flight. and donald trump provides another birther conspiracy, this time he's bringing it up against nikki haley, michelle obama is sending her loudest alarm yet about another trump presidency. we follow the fastest growing group of migrants crossing illegally over the southern border, this group is from china. let's go out front. good evening, outfront tonight, we begin with the breaking news, united airlines revealing that inspectors have found loose holds on more plane doors. it's really sobering, just to hear that, it comes days after the terrifying incident you are looking at right here on the
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alaska airlines flight. it left that gaping hole in the plane. they were flying at an altitude of 16,000 feet. a new statement says we have found instances that appear to relate to installation issues in the door plug for example, bolts that needed additional tightening. let's show you some images of the door plug itself, that's what was ripped from the plane on friday night. and you can see the size there, it's about the size of a refrigerator. the ntsb saying that the plane was restricted from flying long routes over the ocean. it had been restricted from those sorts of flights because a warning light for pressurization had come on three times in recent weeks which led them to think you can't fly it over water in case you need to land quickly. additional maintenance was requested but it was not
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completed before friday's incident. boeing shares plummeted today, nearly $13 billion were wiped out from sears today. this is hugely significant, boeing, the stalwart of the, it's the largest exporter for the entire united states, the largest aircraft manufacturer, it's a brand and the airplanes stand for american greatness and now you have this on top of other disasters including two terrible crashes in 2018 and 2019. this raises questions about the company, its rigor, which leads us to this headline we saw today, china's boeing alternative starts to look enticing. not a headline that boeing ever expected or wanted to see. mike, a terrifying discovery, another airline that had taken
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the planes out of service after this incident out of an abundance of caution, now they are finding loose bolts on multiple door plugs, what more do you know? >> reporter: we know things to the reporting from piedmont team, that in order to have these findings that united is removing two rows of seats from its aircraft removing airline panels, panels from the interior of the aircraft and employing five technicians out a time and they found loose bolts around the door plugs of these aircraft. these are ongoing activities and questions that are being asked from hangers across america to neighborhood here in portland. we are 20 minutes outside of the neighborhood and why we are here, just imagine friday night, from 16,000 feet, a door plug from the alaska airlines plane comes crashing down into that backyard over my left hand shoulder and that's where bob
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seller lives and he's a local science teacher talking about the principles of physics behind the impulse and the freefall of this piece of the airliner but he just once to know like all of us across the country, how this could happen. >> critical inspections underway after a midair scare at 16,000 feet. when a piece of the plane, a door plug, blew out on alaska airlines flight 1282 carrying 177 people on board. united said it found loose bolts around the door plug on and undisclosed number of its 737-9 max aircraft. the faa announced enhanced
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inspections. passengers, reliving the harrowing moments. >> we heard a big loud bang, like in row 20, and all the oxygen masks deployed and everybody got those on. >> a schoolteacher finding the door plug in his backyard. a crucial piece of evidence for investigators. >> getting the door and the other pieces, they will hopefully be able to pinpoint exactly where the failure point was. it remains to be seen if all the latches are still on that piece. >> the planes mechanical history under scrutiny. prior to friday's accident, alaska restricted the aircraft from flying over the ocean so it could quickly return to an airport in case of any warnings. this, after the auto pressurization dale light came on three times in the past month the ntsb says. it's unclear if there's any connection between those warning lights and friday's scare. >> that's what we are looking at with alaska right now, and with boeing right now. that alert, that illuminated
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those three times certainly, it's very disconcerting to our investigators and we want to look at that. >> found a phone belonging to a passenger sitting on the ground. >> shawn bates heard the ntsb calling on the public to help find the plane and found this iphone on the side of the road. >> you didn't have a screen lock so i open it up and it was in airplane mode with the travel confirmation for alaska. >> the ntsb said the phone's screen was intact and a second iphone most likely fell off the plane. >> this is a terrible accident, the ntsb, and observers keep coming back to these tributaries of luck, thank god, everyone was still strapped into their seatbelts. it was not at cruising altitude. nobody was sucked outside of the aircraft. dr. -- the physics teacher is saying, thank god nobody in this densely populated neighborhood was hurt. people were having dinner and
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he said, he will not be flying on any max nines anytime soon. >> it's incredible when you think about it. the door could have it somebody, the phone could have hit somebody, so many things from micro to macro to think about. miles, when you hear the statement from united, this was an alaska plane so united took their maxes out, just going to check, guess what, no, there are loose bolts on an undisclosed number of planes inspected when you hear that, does that make you worried or no? >> it's kind of horrifying, erin, the system is built to tighten the bolts, and put wires through them, and inspect them, and sign off on them, and then seal things up and ship them. something went very wrong along
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the way. and when you look at that door, and you look at the hole in the aircraft, it does look as if it was just kind of removed, there's no real sense of metal tearing, it's such a clean break that my initial reaction was, somebody didn't tighten the bolts. >> that's what it looks like. so the ntsb has released a diagram of the door and you actually looked into this, so this door, you say, it's really secured by the four bolts that are circled on the screen, now that in and of itself, it didn't necessarily need to be, if they were tightened correctly, what could have gone wrong with either the actual installation or perhaps, with the design? >> i don't see, i'm not an engineer, let me get this straight here. but i don't see a problem with
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the design. assuming the bolts are tightened properly and the wire is put through them, which keeps them from you know, loosening, and bolts on aircraft, almost all of them have wires or pins right through them. so they don't loosen, and if that occurred, that plug should have still been there. it doesn't sound like a lot, for little bolts, but in this case, with that design, it probably should be okay to handle the load in this case but this takes me back to that light we keep talking about, the pressurization light. was that door suddenly leaking perhaps, maybe. >> we just don't know, and i guess that's the other question, all these other planes out there that have the same issue, we don't know whether any of them have the lights go off before. there's a lot more to find out here. thank you very much, miles o'brien. >> now i want to go to stephanie king, a passenger on
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that flight. stephanie, i've got to imagine, watching these videos, which i kind of have done again and again as i'm sure everyone has who wasn't actually there. i'm amazed at how quiet it was. just how unbelievable that is, to try to imagine being there but of course, you were there and now you are hearing loose bolts, found during these inspections on other airplanes that are with other airlines, they've been grounded after your terrifying flight, and you're playing itself had had the warning light go off three times and it was not supposed to be flown along water routes, gosh, what even go through your mind when you hear all of these new developments? >> it's pretty concerning, i'll be honest. when you go on a flight, you expect that everything is going to be okay. the plane has been assembled properly, everything has tightened up, the pilots are trained, and you expect it to
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be fine, and to have something like this happen was so shocking, and i think that's most of the reason why it was so quiet after it happened because nobody knew what to do or say. >> and i can only imagine when you get on a plane like that, it had only flown for a few months. you are probably going on thinking wow, i want a new plane, this is beautiful. you were sitting towards the flint >> guest: front, and then you hear a boom. so then what did happen next as you remember it? >> so there was that loud boom, and at that moment, it seemed like air and particles or missed came forward, and then from there, it was immediately sucked right back out. very dramatically, your hair was flown backward from the force and then, after that it
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was just hearing the loud roar of the engines and the wind passing the window. it was like having your window open on the freeway. it was very loud and very unsettling, added something i will never forget. and i'm traumatized over it. >> i know you had taken a video of yourself with your oxygen mask on and before you actually typed out the text to your loved ones. in cases where this ends differently, we often never know if anybody sent a text, and what you thought might be your last moments, you did, you typed out those texts. are you even able to process how you felt? did you think, i could die? >> i definitely thought that was a real possibility, that we might be going down. what i sent to my mother was, the plane has exploded and i'm not sure what's going on but i love you. and it was horrifying. it was really dramatic.
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i'm so glad we made it but i think there definitely needs to be some more investigation to find out why this happened and how to prevent it from happening because's time, it might not go so well. there could be lives lost. >> thank god for this, and as we say, the pilots and flight attendants were trained and they did their jobs and got you all to the ground safely. thank you so much for talking to me. >> thank you. next, donald trump, spreading further conspiracy theories. we've seen this before, this time, they are against, not hard to guess, nikki haley, theories that are of course incorrect. will it work to turn votes against her.
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david culver was formed by chinese migrants on the ground, the migrants are trying to cross illegally into the united states. wait until you see his incredible report and more questions than answers. the defense secretary lloyd austin stillll not saying what landed him in the hospital for days before the president and his owown deputy k knew that h he w eveven there.
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tonight donald trump provided further conspiracy theories, this time against nikki haley. he reposted false accusations that haley is not eligible to run for president because her parents were citizens when she was born. it does not matter when haley's parents became citizens, haley herself, was born in south carolina. a united states citizen and is eligible to be president. the fact that i had to sit here and say that is why the post happened in the first place. here's a small taste of what he said back when president obama was running for reelection. >> i want him to show his birth certificate. >> you are not allowed to be president if you were not born in this country. >> he could have been born in kenya and gone to the united states and everyone wants to be a you a citizen.
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>> basil, trump's post today, it was one of those things, you just have to put it out there for it to their fruit in some cases because people don't get into the technicals of what makes one eligible or not eligible, simply questioning it is where the power comes, does it continue to resonate? >> it's xenophobic, it manifested his own presidential aspirations in doing this against barack obama, does it resonate outside of the republican party? no, but for his core base, it certainly does. what will be interesting to me is how haley responds. because barack obama didn't lean into race, some people didn't like that but he didn't lean into race very much except for a brilliant speech in philadelphia. i'm interested to see if nikki
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haley who can't say the word slavery, actually finds a way to inject her race and ethnicity in any kind of pushback. it probabl y won't work for her but it'll be interesting to see. >> it presents a dilemma because she's been careful about not attacking him explicitly on the campaign trail and by going after her directly, it requires a response. how is she going to thread the needle and respond without attacking him in a way that she has tried so deftly to dance around in terms of criticizing him and it reminds me that trump is just replaying his greatest hits, like he doesn't have new creative jabs so he's recycling the 2012 and 2015 sort of john mccain now he's hitting again, you know, the esteemed senator who's been gone for five years now, it may be a sign of a slowing mind, maybe not so sharp as he once
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was? >> also a sign that he's worried about nikki haley, too, and that's interesting because he's out in iowa campaigning and saying i really need you guys to get out and vote, and that's some kind of a nod to the inevitability of his nomination but it's also to remind voters, look, if you don't come out, nikki haley is not that far behind and she could easily slip in there. >> former first lady michelle obama weighed in on the 2024 contest. and it's interesting timing, but she chose to do it now. she came out and we heard her today. here's part of what she said. >> what's going to happen in this next election, i'm terrified about what could possibly happen. because our leaders matter. who we select, who speaks for us, who holds that bully pulpit
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. it affects us in ways that sometimes i think people take for granted. we cannot take this democracy for granted. and sometimes i worry that we do. those are the things that keep me up. >> so, what do you think about her choosing to say that now? >> well, it echoes joe biden's democracy pitch from valley forge over the weekend. it's also a time when joe biden is trying to jen up support from clyburn and african americans who have helped him clinch the nomination in the first place but i think it's really important for those of us who are concerned, severely concerned about donald trump, in the presidency again. i think it's really important to make a distinction that the democratic process, a just election is democracy working. the fact that donald trump could be elected again isn't democracy not working. the problem, and the thing i think she's terrified by is what he would do.
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his plans in a second presidency. but the fact that he could be elected again, and that possibility happening, it risks undermining people's faith in the electoral process. if he were to win again fairly. >> i will say also, you have trump going after haley, let me be clear for those who don't seem to know slavery caused the civil war, obviously talking about nikki haley, so you have both front runner seeing her as the biggest threat. >> that's true but i would also add the upper layer of this, it's also joe biden doing exactly what he does, reminding people that white supremacy is still real and via flecks of slavery are still real and we cannot take our foot off the gas because it's not just about
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whether or not trump wins it's about what happens to our democracy after this election. >> thank you both so very much. the growing surge of chinese migrants crossing the southern border illegally and a lot of them wanted to talk to our david culver. imas soon as spotted him. >> my mic was not even on but that doesn't stop this crowd of chinese migrants from venting, they're angry, having to wait in the cold for border patrol. incredible images out of fort worth, showing intense damage following an explosion at a hotel.
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tonight, a massive underground operation, cnn investigation uncovering the staggering number of chinese migrants trying to enter the u.s. illegally through the southern border. some of them paying more than $20,000 to get in. david culver has this outfront investigation. >> as soon as we pull up, they rushed towards us. my mic is
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not even on but that doesn't stop this crowd of chinese migrants from venting. they are angry, having to wait in the cold for border patrol. this is just one of three makeshift camps we stopped at, alongside migrants from latin america, and each camp we meet dozens from china, the numbers reflect the surge, from 2013 to 2022, fewer than 16,000 chinese migrants illegally crossing the us southern border. this past year alone, more than 31,000, that's roughly double to the prior 10 years combined but unlike those fleeing countries in turmoil like venezuela, cuba or haiti, they are leaving the world's second- largest economy. >> what was the reason you left china? >> their answers very, most site
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financial hardships despite the chinese government's narrative of a steadily rebounding economy. >> how did you get to southern california? >> their trek north primarily starts in one latin american country where chinese don't need visas to enter. >> how many of you came from ecuador? to really understand their journey and how it differs from other migrants, you need to see it in action. we touched down in ecuador's capital and standing outside of international arrivals, we noticed this man, a hired driver, scrolling through messages in chinese, a few minutes later, passengers began stepping out. they tell us they are from china and plan to go to the u.s. but most ask that we not
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show their faces. the driver approaches this group making sure he's got the right passengers. >> he's got a booking. >> we uncovered an assortment of travel packages offered to chinese migrants, you can pay smugglers that say they will ease stress from $9000-$12,000. for 20,000 or more, it's a premium service, getting you to the mexico sign of the u.s. border, skipping the more treacherous crossings. we drive through ecuador's capital city, he shows us at homes where migrants stay when they arrive. he's lived here in keto for five years and one travel agency. he's witnessed the recent surge in migrants and with it, a spike in businesses catering to them like this chinese run hotel. the owner estimates there's as
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many as 100 hotels that like hers, host chinese migrants headed to the u.s. >> they've got essentially how to guide to go from here and to continue north and they tell you, how many days you should be preparing, vaccinations you might need, other documents you carry with you. they mention bringing $300 and hiding that amount of money because of presumably being robbed at some point and needing cash as a backup. >> it's advice that he could have used days earlier. >> your parents still think you are in china and they think you never left. >> yes. >> we meet the 20-year-old after he was robbed in columbia. i left china because i was not able to save money, it was difficult to support myself, he tells me. and he said some employers refused to pay him even after working. even if they say the chinese economy is strong, it's all
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about the upper class, he says. i wish i was never born, living feels so exhausting, he says. after saving up enough to restart his truck, he heads to this bus station where ticket sellers hold up signs like this one in chinese that reads, colombian border. more than a dozen chinese migrants board the bus north, we go with them for the four hour plus ride, on board, they plan the next moves. >> california. >> california, that's the ultimate goal. jung plans to stay here for two nights and hire a cab to take him over the border . >> as a lot of the migrants are able to pay their way in taxi to get to the international bridge crossing from ecuador to columbia, we noticed a lot of folks, migrants from latin american countries, not having the money to do that. so they walk.
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>> in the cold rain we meet angelo and isabel from venezuela. >> they say it's really expensive to try to cross and they have to walk. >> the residence abc hundreds if not thousands of chinese migrants passing through each week. and because they are often carrying more cash, they are now prime targets for corrupt police and cartels but like jung they remain determined as we return home, he updates us on his truck, over two weeks, he traveled through five central american countries at times, messaging chinese speaking smugglers to coordinate with local cartels to get him and others on vans and on flights. it cuts his travel time down to half of that of latino migrants but it's costly.
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by the time he reaches northern mexico, he has spent more than $10,000, with one more border to go. a camera we set up facing the u.s. southern border captures weeks of crossings, thousands entering the u.s. through this gap in the wall. group after group, day after night, you can hear the migrants shouting in chinese. they end up where we started, san diego county, burning fire through the night to keep warm and during the day, expecting border patrol to pick them up. just before new year's, jung message us and says that he is crossed into the u.s. and is waiting to be processed for asylum. joining the thousands who have crossed before him and the many more to come. >> this is absolutely incredible to watch, and this is a growing trend, we've been talking about this with you for months, you've been doing all of this reporting, it still incredibly undercovered and part of this, you talk about,
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they are coming from the second largest economy in the world. what is the chinese government saying about its citizens, tens of thousands of them going to extreme lengths to leave china for the united states? >> this is not a good look for them. you and i go back a few years, we are talking about a china that was hyper nationalistic and that's what they want to betray, that they are a robust economy, this is contradicting that. it was concerning for the chinese government to have this narrative coming out. beijing has said they would crackdown on this and they said they want to work internationally to come down hard on illegal immigration. >> incredible. thank you. next, there are calls for the defense secretary to resign
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after he didn't tell the white house or his own deputy now we understand, about two hospital stays.
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growing calls for the defense secretary to resign after waiting days to tell the public, the white house and his own deputy he was in intensive care. the pentagon spokesman revealing that he was also hospitalized when he had an elective surgery last month and couldn't say why the white house or austin's deputy was not told about that hospitalization, either or what the surgery was for. >> defense secretary austin under fire after going days without telling telling president biden and others that he was in the hospital some republicans calling for his resignation, some democrats calling it a mistake. everyone, demanding answers. >> i hope every person in the cabinet recognizes that this was not an appropriate step, not an appropriate way to handle
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what was his hospitalization and hopefully there will be greater transparency at least within the administration. >> these are the last publicly released images of austin speaking to troops before the holidays. the date was december 21st, one day later, he went to the hospital for an elective procedure staying overnight. the white house was not noticed -- notified of the stay and neither was the deputy defense secretary who was supposed to take over austin's responsibilities when he's not available. then austin worked from home over the holiday. and on new year's day, he was taken in an ambulance to walter reed where he was admitted to the icu. but it remained a secret from all but a tiny few. >> any commander knows they
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have to notify their boss when something serious is going on. >> general brown was notified on january 2nd, so was his chief of staff or the pentagon says it was her responsibility to notify others but she was sick with the flu. president biden wouldn't find out until january 4th pay >> it was shocking, we were the secretary of defense, you need to make everyone aware that you are going to be out of pocket. >> pentagon press secretary general writer said there was no gap in pentagon leadership and there was always positive control and he said austin is no longer in the icu and he's in good condition but still feeling discomfort. the chair of the senate armed services committee was blunt. i remain concerned that vital chain of command and
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notification procedures were not followed. this lack of disclosure must never happen again. in a statement over the weekend, austin said he takes full responsibility for the lack of disclosure and said he commits to quote, doing better. what he didn't offer in the statement was an apology. >> republican congressman matt rosendahl said that he will introduce articles of impeachment and those are unlikely to go anywhere but that's not the point. the point is this is a question of national security and public and press notification and now, it's a major political problem for the biden administration which still hasn't given good answers here. >> i want to go to brett bruen, a career diplomat who's the former director of the national security council under obama and served under george bush. i appreciate your time. you now, not just the timeline, but you know what it's like to
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be in those chains of command, and what is normally shared and not shared, and when. do you think everything that you know and then we understand to be the case that secretary austin should resign? >> i think he should resign but i think there have to be several resignations including his chief of staff, as well as other officials. you mentioned the pentagon spokesperson, he briefed reporters on thursday, knowing then that secretary austin was in the hospital, did not disclose that information. these are not minor mistakes, these are serious breaches of trust, serious breaches of transparency, and they do ultimately affect our readiness as a mission to respond. >> it's embarrassing. at the very least, for the country, you know, his deputy, kathleen hicks, she assumed some of his duties while she was on vacation in puerto rico.
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she found out that he was in the hospital and she didn't know that he was in hospital for two more days after that. what do you make of some of these gaps and when it comes out to why he was originally in for whatever elective surgery and some kind of repercussion that came after that, will that be part of why they didn't want to share it? >> we are facing a credibility crisis and we still don't know why he went into the hospital, why he's still in the hospital. we also quite frankly have not gotten the full truth about how things went down. i think withholding of information still by the white house, the pentagon, this has been coming out in dribs and drabs, it requires us at this point, to have a full airing of the facts. i think there has to be a
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public investigation and we need new criteria, we need to understand going forward, when do defense secretary's need to call their boss, call the white house and say sir, ma'am, i'm going to be out of the office for the next few hours, the next few days. >> it is bizarre. and it is disturbing. thank you so much, i appreciate your time. next, police investigating lauren boebert for an incident at a colorado restaurant. the congresswoman denying that she punched her ex-husband so what happened? at least 21 people were injured after a explosion at a hotel .
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tonight, quote, i didn't punch jason. that's actually what you now have to hear from the colorado congresswoman lauren boebert who has to speak out after an incident with her ex-husband when the police were called. the republican congresswoman denying anything happened saying i didn't burn jason in the face and no one was arrested. so here we are. an investigation now under way. it's not the first time in recent months that a person who is actually a member of congress who has been under fire for this kind of behavior.
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>> reporter: >> i'm lauren boebert and i approve this message. >> cut. that's a wrap. >> reporter: congresswoman lauren boebert is no stranger to controversy. tonight the colorado republican is the subject of an active police investigation into an alleged altercation with her ex-husband jayson boebert as the miner's claim restaurant saturday night. in a statement to cnn boebert said i didn't punch jayson in the face, and no one was arrested. i will be consulting with my lawyer about the false claims he made against me and evaluate all of my legal options. poe boebert saying they were working it out together. >> it's the latest in a series of controversies plaguing the far right fire brand. >> i'm announcing my kabdsy for the 2024 republican nomination to represent colorado's fourth
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congressional district. >> reporter: last month boebert announced she will be running to run in colorado's fourth district rather than facing a tough re-election bid in colorado's third district. >> this announcement is a fresh start following a pretty difficult year for me and my family. i had never been in politics before and i've never been through a divorce. >> i'm lauren boebert, and i approve this message. >> reporter: after spending nearly two decades with her husband. >> i got married. i have four wonderful boys. >> reporter: the 37-year-old who is already a grandmother filed for divorce last year citing irreconcilable differences. in her book "my american life" boebert described meeting jayson when she was 16 years old. >> i fell in love immediately and i knew without a doubt he was the man i was meant to be with for better or worse forever. ? as her divorce was still being finalized, boebert made headlines last september when she was booted from a musical production of "beetle juice" in denver. she was seen vaining inside the
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theater, raising your arms to dance and taking photos and her companion seen fondling her breast. she was eventually escorted out of the show. she was seen flipping off security. >> i'm very known for having an animated personality. maybe overtly animated personality. i was lampughing, singing, havi a fantastic time. >> reporter: police where the restaurant allegedly occurred tells cnn they can't disclose who made the call nor whether the department had received surveillance footage from the restaurant to review. boebert meanwhile citing this incident as yet another reason why she's swing districts. erin? >> lucy, thank you very much, reporting, of course, from colorado tonight. and next we're following the breaking news that i mentioned. there's been an explosion at a hotel in texasance and at least 21 people have been injured at this hour. the footage is pretty stunning.
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breaking news. at least 21 people injured, including one in critical condition after an explosion at a hotel in downtown fort worth, texas. just look at this. this is texas you're looking at. this is the blast, how powerful it was. rubble filling the street outside the sandman hotel. 26 rooms inside were occupied at the time of the explosion. eyewitnesses telling cnn it sounded like fireworks. the fort worth "star telegram" said people came out of the hotel with blood on their faces no. report of deaths, but we don't know. this was apparently a type of gas explosion and that construction work was being done. what sparked the exmotion and the full details. aftermath are still under investigation. thank you so much for joining us tonight. "ac 360" with anderson begins right now.