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tonight arnold schwarzenegger will face criminal tax proceedings in germany where he'll face charges for failing to declare a very, very expensive watch. arnold is shown holding the box. schwarzenegger gets pulled aside for hours and agrees to pre-pay potential taxes on the watch. a source close to the actor said it would make for a very funny cup movie. officers tried and failed to use a credit card ma mean, wasn't working and they haul him off to an atm and needed more cash than the atm who allow him to withdraw in a bank and then they bring him a new credit card machine and that did the trick.
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wow, thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. >> tonight on "3 of 0" sparks fly in the courtroom between the judge and the president on the day that e. jean kale took the stand. trump ally robert stone on tape talking about assassinating two democratic congressmen. we'll speak to one of them and my conversation with a former hostage who reveals much of her captivity was spent with her husband and children and others in an exam room in a major hospital in gaza. we begin with these words. i would love that. that's what the former president told judge lewis kaplan after the judge threatened to remove him from the courtroom to which the judge replied i know you would. at issue his comments during playoff e. jean kuraly's testimony telling jurors what it was like to endure the most powerful men in the free world
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calling her a liar or he was found guilty of sexually abusing her in a department store in the 1990s, a denial he repeated in court today. >> this is a person i have no idea this happened, i have no idea who she was nor could i care less. it's a rigged deal, a made-up fabricated storey. >> from there he went to new hampshire for a campaign event in portsmouth. joining us now cnn legal analyst joey jackson and kaitlin collins and kara scannell who was in court today as this all played out. what was it like? >> e. jean carroll is on the stand facing donald trump, just two tables away from her as she's beginning to tell this story, and she says almost off the bat donald trump assaulted me. he lied about it, and shattered my represent utakes and at that moment trump physically reacted shaking his head side to side face to say, no, and from there that just kind of began his reaction to her testimony.
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a lot of it involved him leaning over to his attorney alina habba whispering to her and making she is statements. that was not audible to us, the reporters in the courtroom that were sitting behind him, but at one of the breaks is this is when carroll's attorney brought it up they could hear sitting in front of trump and they were concerned that the jury could hear some of the comments he was saying including that this is fake, this is a con job and a witch hunt. so that was something that was raised to the jung once the jury was out of the courtroom and it was out of ear shot. >> how much of that testimony had taken place at that point? >> at that point he was on stand for two hours when the judge had the exchange who said i'll kick you out of the courtroom when you continue with this and he was taking about her experience. this case is about damages. it's not about the assault so she was talking about what happened to her after he made these statements from the white house in june of 2019. she's talking about the kind of threat she received. how she was changing her life.
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she got a pit bull and bought bullets for a gun she inherited and keeps it by her bed and how much this impacted her, people wishing she would die, hoping she would be raped and explaining to the jury what she went through after these statements were made. >> there were requests by the former president trump's attorneys for the judge to recuse himself, declare a mistrial, how did that go? >> again, judge lewis kaplan, he does not really mince words. the trump attorneys asked for the judge to dismiss himself, you took the wofford your former law clerk and didn't give us a chance to explain. the judge looked at him and said denied. they asked for a mistrial because one of the attorneys was questioning carroll about e-mails and carroll acknowledged she probably deleted some of the threatening e-mails and they are saying she deleted e-mails, we want a mistrial. this was in front of the trial and the jury says denied and disregard everything that the lawyer said. >> between the former president's statements in court and also afterwards, i mean, is
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he giving new fodder for even more defamation claims. >> i really think he is. if it's in the defamation claims, certainly it's to the issue of punitive damages, and we've seen that. first of all, what are punitive damages. that's what this case is largely about, about punishing and deterring from someone from engaging in misconduct like this, defaming and what is it worth, right, and so the reality is if you're continuing to say things, continuing to makes statements, and i'll say this, right, i know it's a civil case, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law applies civilly, too, the attorneys will say, look, this is ripe for the consideration of this jury and goes to the state of mind and goes to his inability to accept any responsibility here, and it geks actly to what my client is talking about how she's demeaned, doesn't feel safe and is being threatened, and as a result that have let it in so it's up to a judge's determination but certainly i think if he's going to say something, accept the consequences of those st's what we
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saw. >> caitlin,kaitlin, something t former president were say throw me out. >> he comes out after attack the judge at leapt because the judge is pretty no nonsense with us the judge's reputation with trump's attorney and the way she was questioning e. jean carroll repeatedly denying her efforts because she wasn't properly marking exhibits or didn't have them if the transcripts, following basic court procedures as a part of this, but the fact that trump was in the room also speaks to how he's viewing this, it's important for him to be there because he did not attend the first trial, and after that multi-million dollar verdict was awarded, we had the town hall with him the next day and i asked him if he regretted not testifying and he said, no, because my attorneys told me that i shouldn't be there. today he made clear he does feel he needs to be there and his
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presence is warranted. there's a question of the behaviorin a the fact that the judge was threatening to be evict him from the room because he was speaking so loudly. it's something he's using as part of the campaign trail. tomorrow says they can't go and asked for a delay in the trial because of melania trump's wife's funeral is tomorrow and was argue is he cannot go, but his presence is not required. doesn't have to be there. he didn't go to the first one. >> you talked about these deletes emils and it's messages. why did e. jean carroll say she deleted them, and are there any messages that she has to show them? >> showed some of the tweets, facebook messages so we saw, you know, some of the vitriol being language that was thrown her way, but she said her physical reaction was to like recoil when she saw them so her only way to deal with it was to delete it immediately and put it out of her mind. she did say she kept some of them.
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we did see some of them but it was more of her trying to tell this story of how she felt including ones -- stick a gun in my mouth and pull a trigger. that's one of the ones we saw today. >> could the bleegs of those messages, is that a big dealle? >> here's how it plays into account of you have deleted messages and what do people generally do lacking at habit and custom. when you put something vitrioloic on many people's threads they are going to get rid of it, so you can't make the argument that as a result of deleting it, be it didn't happen or it's fabricated or you're selling the injury something and normal behavior if you see something that's so ken greating you'll remove it. ju just to the effect of this, how it impacted her safety. i mean, i think it's hugeus the
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issue i acrossed before, how much will the jury award. >> kaitlyn collins will be back at the top of the hour and the former president continues his campaigns in new hampshire. senior ann lift jeff zeleny joins us now. what happened at the haley event tonight? >> reporter: well, nikki heal was responding to the comments that donald trump has been making both in person here in new hampshire and there is his television ads. he's really been focusing his attention and attacks on her, setting his sights on her because she stands between his rise and the rush to the nomination, but she was talking about specifically immigration, some ads he's running and social security. she said he's been lying about her record. take a listen to what she said just a few moments ago. >> i know trump threw a temer tantrum about me last night.
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>> one of the things that my friend trump said was that i didn't want to close the border. you saw what i said about the bothereder. he say i didn't want a wall. what i said is i don't want just a wall. >> and how -- how were they responding? >> go ahead. >> i was going to say, anderson, those words temper tantrum are something we've not hurt nikki haley use before. clearly time is running short for her to make her case to new hampshire voters, but certainly that -- you know, some giggles in the crowd when show read that, but vote remembers true to decide between him, her or even ron can'ties. >> what else did she have to say? >> anderson, she's been continuing to make her argument about accountability, one of the hallmarks about a that she made about her argument in iowa. she asked republicans and even independents in the audience to think about the general election and how republicans have lost so
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many elections in recent years in the trump era. she had this message for them as they think to the future. >> but the only way we're going to win is if we elect a new conservative generational leader and put the negativity and the baggage behind and focus on the solutions of the future. don't complain about what happens in a general election new don't play in this primary on tuesday. [ applause ] >> so clearly expressing the importance of that primary on tuesday. anderson, you can see she's shake hands with literally every last person in the room here as she normally does. show didn't take questions twrats digs of new hampshire town halls but she will be doing so tomorrow night here on cnn. one thing that's key, anderson, as we talk to many voters here, she has a rum audience amongst the undeclared voters which more than a third of the electorate here, independent-minded voters who can vote in the primary next
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week. donald trump accused her of trying to infiltrate the republican primary but in new hampshire the independent voters are so key so certainly her message is resonating was least some of them and several republicans we talked to here tonight. >> it's interesting that she doesn't take questions at the town halls which is such a tra dis. desantis was there is new hampshire today. what is he saying? >> there are serious questions hanging over his campaign tonight. he's actually flying back to florida tomorrow. we're told it was initially unclear if he was returning to new hampshire this week. he wanted to debate nikki haley. she wouldn't debate him, wanted to debate donald trump but he was talking about, you know, needing a true conservative so he's been attacking her as well. no doubt in new hampshire at least this is a two-person was at the top of the ticket so he's going to refocus okay of his efforts on south carolina. that's the first of southern primary, her home state and some deep concerns here about the future of his candidacy.
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he'll in florida tomorrow and his aides insist he'll come back here before the primary. next, more on how the former president is going offer nikki haley, his former u.n. ambassador and how it fits his pattern of using rates of dog whistles. an israeli mom held in hospital and all that she owes gone through after nearly two months in captivity.y.
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now that nikki heal has gained ground in new hampshire, the former president has done what he's done so many times before to adversaries time and time alike. he's painting her as less than american, referring to her as nick kay nimrada haley with that in square quotes misspelling her first name. he also posted a claim by gateway pundit that nikki haley might not be a u.s. citizen which would disqualify her under the 12th amendment. nikki haley is the child of immigrants and was born in the small south carolina town of bamberg. nikki is her middle name just as mitt is mitt romney's middle name. the difference, of course, is that the names will yard or
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julius might sound stiff or old-fashioned but they don't sound foreign like haley's does which is enough for the former president to latch on to. he's done the same with another well-known indian american vice president harris suggesting falsely she was born elsewhere. >> they say she doesn't qualify because she wasn't born in this country. >> when he wasn't doing that he was theatrically enunciating her first name for effect. >> nobody treated him worse than kamala harris. >> and when trying to paint some american citizens as foreigners, the former president does not limit himself to the south asian sub continent. his target a decade ago was the first black president. he's what he was lying about 12 years ago. >> i've been told very recently that the birth certificate is missing. i've been told it's not there and doesn't exist. >> none of that was true and we
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and others pointed that out but he kept at it for years and to this day he never fails to mention president obama's middle name. >> president barak hussain obama. barak hussain obama. >> crooked joe biden and his boss, barak hussein obama, did this to us. >> it's not just african-americans or indian americans, it's the american judge of american descent and the asian mesh wife of senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. >> we're building a wall. he's a mexican. >> he's not from mexico. >> he's from indiana. >> he has mexican heritage and he's very proud of it. >> mitch mcconnell and his wife coco chow. >> that was a member of his cabinet and her husband was the top ally in the senate. none of that seems to matter for the former president. racist dog whistles are too appealing to pass up.
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joining us now van jones and pollster and communications strategist frank luntz. >> first of all, what do you make of the president focused on nikki haley and repeatingly trying to kind of otherize people of color. >> it's just what he does, but part of it he's insulting her, trying to get under her skin but he's also trying to incite us. a big part of this isn't just the kind of racial game that he plays against people of color. it's also a show of force. he knows he's going to annoy liberals doing this. he knows he's going to annoy progressive doing this and we're going to frown and pout and scold him and he's not going to back down so it shows he's powerful, see. i'm powerful. i can say mean things to people and when nice people say don't be mean i stay mean. see, i'm strong. this is a psychological game that he plays. he knows we're going to get mad and it plays no his strategy of
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looking tough by puffining down. >> do you think that resonates with voters and my shore, i had a chance to interview voters in eight different caucuses, and every trump voter, all of them, 100% whether so behind him, behind his rhetoric and approach and behind everything because they think he's a victim, a victim of you all, a victim of the court system, a victim of the entire political system in america. it's working with them, and it's scary because in the end, and this is my focus for the next ten months, if we continue to play this game, if we continue to divide by race, by gender, by age, by geography, by all the divisions that we have, where is america going twhob this is all done? there are some things that are more important than an election and that's the next generation and the health and safety of our democracy, and it is under threat. i agree completely with what van just said. >> you're seeing that in focus
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groups. things are worse -- you and i were just talking. things are worse than you've ever seen them. >> i hear it, and i know that more people believe that the country is going to be worse for their kids than ever before, less people believe in the american dream than ever before. i thought the american dream was to welcome people from other countries, give them a home here, allow them to -- to succeed, allow them to prosper because it makes america stronger and yet it feels like some of in politics is hostile to that, is it actually opposed to the american dream. >> van, does this put healy in a tough position with republican voters? does she have to then somehow -- does she just ignore it or somehow address false claims, that she's ineligible to returns for instance? you're kind of damned if you do and damned if you don't. >> that's the brilliance of who he does. he forks you and you go low and you have to go low to defend yourself or you have to try to ignore it and then it gains traction, et cetera. a god thing about nikki healy is
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that i think most of the republican party know her and know who she is. to frank's point i think people are proud of the fact that her familiar hi came here and has done well and she's done well so i think, that you know, she's relatively safe from this type of stuff. i really don't think it will have the effect of othering her. i think it's really more about he wants to show that he's not going to bow down to liberal convention and liberal elites, period, and that's really more what he's doing. i think nikki haley would be better off ignoring this stuff and continue to make the case that show's making which she is certainly more likable than he is. this is the type of stuff and frank is right. it's seeping in now to the culture, the nastiness, the divisiveness, the pettiness, is becoming something that not only people are used to but come to expect and that's bad for everyone.
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>> someone has to say no. someone has to stand up and literally say enough! call out your own side, so when people say things within the democratic party on the far progressive side that challenges let's say the jewish community, they need to say enough, and on the right. >> agreed. >> if trump does this, enough. >> didn't chris christie do that? >> that's the whole point. it's not just about elections. it's got who wins and who loses. if you ask me is this good for republicans to win the election? in some states frankly it is. is it good for democracy, absolutely in the, and new hampshire, the key to what's about to happen, iowa makes a statement. new hampshire makes presidents, and in new hampshire she's been gaining and gaining. sheep's going to get the lion's share of chris christie's votes but losing vivek rams womany is good tore trump. he'll get the lion's share there. in the end it's about the health of democracy in the long term. if trump wins in new hampshire, it's all over.
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about if nikki can beat him in new hampshire we go on for another five or six weeks at least. >> frank luntz, a great. >> did the latest republican operative roger stone say he wanted two democratic members of congress assassinated. stone says it's fake. we'll talk to one of the members of congress eric swalwell in his first interview since stone owes alleged comments. also the wife of britain's future king in the hospital, his farmer king charles will be there soon as well. we have details ahead.
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nine days ago the media news wednesday out mediaite published an explosive allegation, roger stone, a longtime republican operative and key ally to the former president told an associate and former nypd police officer that two democrats needed to be assassinated. stone called the story fake. he tweeted that mediaite can't produce the recording, said something very similarity next day, two days after that mediaite published recording.
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>> get this over with. it's time to do it. and then we'll see how brave the rest of them are. swalwell or nadler has to go before the election. they need to get the message. just not putting up with this [ bleep ]. >> cnn has not confirmed the authenticity of the recording. stone has since called the team aye-generated bs. twlo those were her words. >> cnn is investigating the comments. last year cnn aired video gathered by the january 6 committee of stone on january 6 saying, and i'm going to clean up his words here, f the voting, let's get right to the violence. stone called that evidence deep fake vimptds joining us for the first interview since the recording was revealed is congressman eric swalwell. according to sources you weren't aware of this recording until it was published, is that right, and i'm wondering what your reaction was. >> that's right, anderson, and, you know, frankly i was stunned
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that he was so brazen about it, and maybe i shouldn't be stunned because the truth is when it comes to trump and his, you know, henchmen like roger stone, they prefer violence over investigate. they are brucht any ideas that would help anyone who watches your show and so they want to, as he said, get right to the violence, and so, yes, i was stunned. i'm still stunned. we can't normalized this at all, and all i ask of my colleagues who i serve with is let's join together and let's, you know, allow our unity to be the antidote to these types of threats and that we condemn them whether they are against republicans or sglemts do you take roger stone's alleged threats seriously? >> i do. i take them seriously for my family. i take them seriously for my staff, and as we saw with speaker pelosi and the attack on
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her husband, you know, too often the target of an attack is on the move, and it's our family and our staff who are often, you know, stationary at the home or office and i thank law enforcement in this threat and other threats of taking this serious. >> both capital police and the fbi are investigating this threat. is there anything that you can say about it? >> yeah, you so, anderson, all can i say right now is i stand ready to cooperate, but i also am not going to be intimidated, and i know, you know, in part the aim of a threat like this, and someone was arrested not too far from where roger stone lives a couple weeks ago for making a similar threat against my kids, you know, that they were going to kill my children. the aim of these threats is to silence me and to silence anyone like me in congress from speaking out against donald trump, and, in fact, roger stone
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said on that audio tape that i need to get the message. well, message received, and my message back to roger stone is i'm not going away, and the american people who have voted against donald trump every single day since he was elected in 2016, they are not going away either, and they have put us in the majority in the house. they have put us in the majority and the senate. put joe biden in the white house and donald trump and his henchmen have been losers ever since, and so if the aim is to make us go away, it's not going to work, but i will do everything i have to do to protect my family and staff. >> do you think he should be charged with something? i mean, what consequences do you think would be appropriate? >> well, anderson, you know, it looks like this was his voice, and -- and outside independent organization called ai.spy, not affiliated with me at all, they put out a report saying that this was human generated, and it sure sounds a hell of a lot like
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the way roger stone has talked about me in the past and the way that he talks about donald trump's political opponents, and so all i ask is, that you know, if this is what he said, that he's treated no better and no worse than anyone else, and that anyone else who makes threats against republicans or democrats, that you know, we start, to you know, have a rule of law that says we're a country where we settle our scores at the ballot box, not through violence, and when you use violence or threaten violence, you're going to pay the price for that and you'll be held accountable. >> congressman eric swalwell, thanks very much. my pleasure, thanks, anderson. >> coming up, breaking news, more u.s. action against houthi rebels in yemen, a live report from the pentagon and a 360 exclusive. sharon kunio was a hostage in gasser, for 52 days. i spoke to her about the day her family was kidnapped at the major hospital in gaza she was held at at one point or much of her captivity. also tonight, major medical issues for britain's king and
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the wife of the future king. we'll tell you more about that coming.
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militants in yemen whose attacks on vital shipping lanes in the red sea have raised alarms about possible major economic fallout throughout the world. orrin lieberman is at the pentagon tonight. what are you learning? >> reporter: we've learned the targets of the u.s. strikes were 14 missile launches used by the houthis, both anti-ship ballistic missile launchers as well as anti-ship cruise missile launchers. these are the types of weapons the houthis and iranian-backed group have used to target international shipping lanes. as you pointed out, this is the fourth time in less than a week that the u.s. has targeted houthi sites inmen. the u.s. showing a willingness to go after houthi weapons and the types of capabilities they have used to target international shipping here. the houthis have given no indication they will back down. they have threatened to continue to target u.s. assets as well as uk assets. it's those two countries that launched the first set of strikes on thursday night. that followed up by a u.s. follow-on action as u.s. central command put us on yesterday and yesterday they struck with
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ballistic missile launches and further strikes against houthi capabilities in yemen. twice this week the houthis have successfully targeted and struck a u.s.-owned and operated vessel in the gulf of adepp. in both cases it was minor damage and the container ship was on its way. you see this playing out in a very violent way. it's worth, finally i'll point out, anderson, if the u.s. hadn't carried out strikes earlier as the bidden administration was trying to avoid an escalation in the region, and now the u.s. feeling compelled to react. >> khan younis and patients at others fleeing from the nearby israeli air strikes as idf forces headed towards what's the largest hospital in the city. israel said hamas has recently carried out a launch from within the hospital compound towards its forces. the hospital is where my next guest says she was held for most of her 52 days of captivity in gaza. in a "360" exclufive i spoke to
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sharon kunio on october 7 when she and eight of her family members including her husband and twin daughters were kidnapped and how she was treated and what she remembers from the hospital. i spoke to her earlier today. >> first of all, how are you doing and how are your daughters? >> we're not doing very good. i have -- i'm suffering from depression. i have anxiety attacks and panic attacks. the girls also suffer from rage. they have confidence issues. they can't really rely on anyone and they keeping asking when is their dad coming back from gaza. >> you and your kids, your husband david, your sister, her child, were all taken from the kibbutz, and you were actually separated from emma, up of your
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3-year-olds, they are twins. when did you realize that she wasn't with you? >> after we broke out of the window they separated me from my sisters, emma and my niece amelia. i was not really conscious because of all the smoke, and i realized that one of them is dragging me away, and i was -- i was sure he was about to rape me and kill me, and when i looked back i haven't seen my sister or my daughter or my niece, and hi no idea what happened to them. >> you were -- you had been hiding in your safe room with your husband and with your sister and her two kids and your daughters. you had to leave because they lit the husband on fire and the smoke you were going to suffocate. you were taken to gaza. where were you held initially? >> initially we were in a house,
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in a civilian house with two terrorists guarding us inside a room for 24/7. only me, david and julie. after nine days the house next to us was bombed, and then they decided to move us. they brought in an ambulance that disguised david as corps. put me in traditional arab votes and put julie on me and covered her with a show the and told thundershower look down. >> you were only with your one daughter. did you know where emma was? >> i kept asking them, begging them, crying to them, please look for my daughter. her name is emma. she looks exactly like this up. they are identical twins. please, please. they just told david always to tell me to leave them alone. they don't know what happened to her. >> that must have been horrific to be separated from yore
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3-year-old and from her identical twin sister to be separated as well. >> yeah. it's probably the hardest thing that we have to go through during our captivity, not knowing where she is, if she's even alive. >> so the house you're staying in, the house next door gets shelled, and they -- your captors actually transport you out of that house in an ambulance, so they use an ambulance to put you and your husband and your daughter julie, they ask your husband to pretend to be dead and lay on a stretcher, is that right? >> yeah, correct, and they covered him with a white sheet. >> there's obviously been a lot of discussion about what role hospitals -- how hospitals are being used by hamas and other groups. you were actually ended up being taken to a hospital and held with other hostages in a hospital, is that right? what hospital it was?
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>> the hospital was in khan younis. we were taken there up until the end, yeah. up until the end. there were about three rooms of hostages. each one was 10 to 12 people in it. small rooms, 12 square feet. >> and when you're at the hospital, what were conditions like, and did hospital personnel know you were there? >> they used one hospital personnel to come and see us every other day. he knew who we are. he went along with it, and -- and we were held there up until we were released. >> and what sort of conditions -- you were in an exam room with 10 to 12 other people. did have you bathroom, a shower, or food?
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>> it's not in the room. we had bathroom outside. they locked us in the rooms so we had to knock in order to get stuff or even to go to the bathroom. sometimes they would open up after five minutes, sometimes it would take a few hours. it was really hard when we all had diarrhea and vomiting, and when we -- at first we didn't have showers, and after a while they gave us a bucket and a glass. >> you were reunited with emma. i mean, can you describe that moment? >> yeah. we were brought into the room in the middle of the night and around morning or noon the next day they asked us to do a video for some elderly officers or something, and -- and four or five people came inside the room and suddenly i heard a voice of a baby crying outside the door,
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and i grabbed david and i -- i tell him, oh, my god, this is emma's voice, and he's telling me what are you talking about? she's not here, you know, that and i told them i'm losing my mind. i'm had a lose negotiate, and then the crying starts to get louder, and it sounds like it comes into the room, and then i just saw a person holding emma and giving her to me like she's a package, and she's hysterical and crying and i'm -- i'm trying to calm her down, but she wouldn't, and then i started to sing her this lullaby i sing for her every night and then began she began to relax a bit but the first night with her was really difficult because she would wake up screaming and wouldn't calm down for hours and they would yell at us to be quiet. >> emotionally what is it like at this time, i mean, to be in
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this room with all these people in this hospital? i imagine you're hearing what's happening outside. you're hearing shelling in the distance. how would you get through the days? how was your husband? >> it was really difficult because we had no information. we didn't have raid yes or tv, so the -- the only thing -- the only stuff we knew is when we used to ask them, our captors, for a bit of information, what was going on, and we didn't really get any hope from them. we kind of felt that everyone had given up on us. we had no idea what was happening in israel, that everyone is fighting for us, and we really suffer from depression every day. i used to cry almost every day because i didn't have my depression pills also, and david was so frustrated, he used to
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beat himself in the face sometimes until he bled. >> on friday, november 24, something changed. what happened on that day? >> on november 24, a man came inside and asked to talk to david, and after i think 20 minutes david came back with a frightened face, and i told him what happened, and he said that one of the officers wants to talk to him, and he would be back in two hours, and it sounded kind of weird, so we asked one of the captors if he's really coming back and he said no. they are taking him to a place with other men because a deal has began, and they are bringing back only women and children at the moment, and they let us -- they told us they will come back for him. we didn't know for how long, and for three hours we just sat there and cried, and i begged
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him not to go, and he told me he was so scared and asked me to fight for him, and the girls cried and begged him not to go and said why -- why does the our father has to leave? why can't they take someone else's dad? it was a really -- i think the hardest day, and this is the day i'm stuck on, and i can't really manage to recover from. >> from that separation. i understand you tried to convince david to let you stay with him in gaza and send your girls back to israel. >> yeah. i told him we have an amazing family from both sides. i know they will take good care of them. i don't want to leave you alone in gaza. i know what it's like to be there, and it's really difficult. we have barely food. the food we had was moldy.
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it was so hard to be there and to think that he is it was so hard to know he was going throb by himself. it was the hardest decision i had to make in my life. but they didn't really give us any choice because it stayed a fact that the men are going to other places. >> and then he's taken away. you have had any word about him since? >> we just know that he was taken down to the tunnels. >> so, how do you get through each day now? >> i usually cry all day. i try to be strong for the girls because i know they look up to me currently because i'm both mother and a father right now. when they don't see me, i cry. i watch videos of him.
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i hear sound voices from him just to kind of feel connected to him. >> do your daughters ask a lot about him? >> every day. every day. >> is there anything else you want people to know or you want to say? >> yeah. i want people to understand that every minute counts and every minute is in captivity lasts like a lifetime. and tomorrow would be the double amount of time that i was in captivity that my husband and the other 135 people are in against their will. and everything needs to be done in order to make a deal and bring him home now. >> if david can hear this now, is there anything you want to say to him? >> my love, i hope that i am making you proud for fighting for you. i promise you i will won't stop
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up until i can't breathe anymore. i'll fight for you for bringing you home for our girls because you deserve it. i love you. i can't wait to see you. >> thank you so much for your time. >> thank you so much, anderson. >> we'll be right back.
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princess of wales is hospitalized after abdomen mall surgery. king charles will be in hospital when the 75-year-old monarch has his own medical procedure. details now from cnn's royal correspondent max foster in london. >> reporter: from her recent engagement, the princess of whales looked well and in good spirits. the first suggestion that she may have been unwell came on wednesday when the palace announced she was in hospital,
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recovering from abdominal surgery. it was successful. a source told cnn it wasn't cancer related. she would need to remain in hospital for up to two weeks though. up to three months recoup rating in windsor. all engagements and travel are put on hold as they have for prince william as he takes care of his family. then news that king charles will be going to hospital next week with an enlarged prostate. we're told it's benign and announced on the same day because it meant he had to cab cancel a meeting with government ministers thursday in scotland. three out of four of the most senior british working royals are out of action. no further updates expected until the princess leaves hospital or takes a turn for the worse. kate is keen on fitness and enjoys playing sports so she is expected to recover well.
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the palaces rarely release medical details which is why they haven't explained what the surnlry was for. she could have been seen leaving the hospital and why she was cancelling engagements. a source told cnn the king took the view that sharing his condition would encourage other men to have their prostates checked. >> what happens when so many members of the royal family are not doing what they normally do? >> i think a lot of it comes down to the queen camilla. she'll be out and about next week to show continuity in the monarchy. i think the surprise here is that, you know, the key members are vulnerable and william stepped in to sort of support them. and she will be supported by ann and edward and edward's wife sophie. really expressing how the monarchy has been slimmed down
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because, of course, prince andrew is no longer working, neither are harry and meghan and the queen is not either. this is fragility to it that we saw today. >> how are people in the uk reacting? >> i think initially they were a bit puzzled by the amount of time that princess will need to recover. and now i think they feel quite shocked. she is the vibrant centerpiece really of the royal family. she's the one that makes front pages. we're not going to see her for months. and, you know, she is this picture of health. and quite surprised, really, quite shocked really she could potentially be vulnerable, you know, with the experience of the queen dying not that far away in the memory. >> max foster, thank you very much. appreciate it. that's it for us. the news continues. "the source" starts now. tonight, straight from the source, house speaker mike johnson is here, fresh official a high stake