hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. i'm anna live from hong kong ahead on cnn newsroom. >> joe biden is a threat to democracy. >> donald trump is a loser. >> there was no shortage of barbs as donald trump and joe biden campaigned on separate ends of the country. previewing what just may become a rematch of their 2020. disturbing allegations against u.n. staff members led a growing number of countries to suspend critical aid to gaza. we'll speak to one isreali official about what they say about the 12 staffers implicateded. plplus, a younung boy bornr can hear foror t the first time after a life changing procedure. how gene therapy treatment gave a child a new lease on life.

donald trump and joe biden treating this weekend as the opening salvo for the 2024 general election. both men are visiting states they will be sure to win in february's nomination contests. current president biden is in south carolina, former president trump is in nevada at a las vegas rally, trump had strong words for his successor. >> joe biden is a threat to democracy. he is for a lot of reasons, number one, he is incompetent. that's a threat to democracy. you know, incompetence is a gross threat to democracy. what joe biden is doing is a crime against our nation. it's an absolute betrayal of our country and it's an atrocity against our constitution. nobody has ever seen anything like it. crooked joe will not get away with these crimes. he will be tried at the ballot box in november. >> the leading republican presidential candidate continued to soak fears over

immigration at the u.s., mexico border. >> there's a 100% chance that there will be a major terrorist attack in the united states or many attacks maybe. and it's all because of what's happened over the last three years. when i'm president, instead of trying to send texas a restraining order, i will send them reenforcements. [ applause ] >> trump broadly called migrants criminals and rapists and he said he opposed a bipartisan immigration deal currently in the senate. meantime, u.s. president joe biden is vowing to put tougher immigration measures in place as he tries to counter trump's attacks. a group that helped him win the white house in 2020. >> and you're the reason donald trump is a defeated former president.

you're the reason donald trump is a loser and you're the reason we're going to win and beat him again. >> cnn is traveling with the president and has more. >> president joe biden, contrast from donald trump. in what was a preview of his general election arguments, casting the former president as defeated and a loser. president biden also making the case that trump is only thinking about himself, and not the country. saying quote, what's good for america is bad for him politically. but the president also spent time making connections with what his administration has done on a range of issues to what communities are seeing on a day-to-day basis. be it investments in hbcus, driving down insulin costs and student loan debt relief, which earned applause in the audience. but notably, the president also weighing in on border security and putting his support behind

a border deal that they have been working on for weeks. if given the authority, he would shut down the border and do it quickly. >> that bill were the law today, i would shut down the law today and fix it quickly. the bipartisan bill would be good for america and help fix our broken immigration system. >> as he faced other remarks, there were protesters in the audience calling for a cease- fire in gaza. they werescorted out. it was another example of the fractures within the coalition that the president is having to navigate. but the bottom line here was that he needs south carolina, a state he credited for turning the tide in 2020, and it is one that will have its primary next week. it will be the first after the democratic national committee overhauled the schedule with president biden's support. the president reflecting on that and while this is not a competitive primary, it will be a test of his standing with black voters. a key constituency to clinch

that win in november. cnn, south carolina. also in south carolina, is nikki haley, who is mounting a month-long stand against donald trump before the republican primary there on february 24. haley's attacks on trump escalated recently after she largely avoided conflict for nearly a year. trump's legal battles and heavy investments from political networks linked to charles. she is facing an uphill battle, but the former south carolina governor is refusing to step aside. >> only two states have voted. there are 48 more that have to vote. [ applause ] no matter what donald trump thinks, he can't bully his way to the white house. it's not going to work.

and after he did that, we raised another $1.4 million. so donald, keep them coming, because it's great. >> joining me now from london is jonathan friedland, he's a columnist. america podcast, great to have you with us. we'll get to nikki haley, but it feels like we are getting a glimpse of what could very well be the biden verse trump matchup. biden in south carolina showing that he is ready to use name calling as a tactic, is it a smart move? is he watching haley and other republicans going too soft on trump and perhaps paying the price? >> i think it's probably important for joe biden to see that he can be tough with donald trump. they can go -- that he can go head to head with him. partly because part of donald

trump's campaign is to say that joe biden is passed it, too weak, too old, and so in some ways, it helps. it is partly also just because this is going to be a long general election campaign. despite what nikki haley is doing. she's a republican attacking the republican likely nominee. so that helps the democrat. despite her being there, it's essentially general lexicon test and he has to go after donald trump and do it in some ways harshly, because the republicans really until now, nikki haley, were pointing out these obvious flaws in donald trump's candidacy, and in a way, it forces biden to do it. >> jonathan, biden is looking at some pretty low poll numbers. does it seem like he is getting much credit for any improvement in the economy. we're getting the news that the u.s. is growing.

is this a messaging problem or are people just not seeing the benefits of bidenomics. >> it's a messenger problem. i think the message could be effective. the problem really is in some ways him, the polling does show that huge numbers of americans, majorities, even majorities among democrats do worry that he is too old to serve a second term. which would end with him being in the oval office age 86. that is a big almost fundamental problem. nevertheless, those numbers as you say are rising with consumer confidence. inflation is going down. he just has to hope that feeds through in the ten months and that can be a long time in politics between now and november. and he does enjoy some structural advantages. one is, actually embodied by nikki haley, which is he, donald trump, is hugely popular, obviously, among

republicans. but to win a general election, you have to win people beyond your party and you particularly have to win independent or swing voters and those are the people who were fueling, nikki haley's campaign, which i saw in-person in new hampshire, they were moving to her and those voters, 25% of them, or more than that, were addmently against, addmently against donald trump and those are the people who joe biden has to be targeting. he can do that partly because no matter how flawed he is, those voters are telling people in exit polls, their votes for nikki haley, they really cannot stomach donald trump. i mean, he does not, in their view, get any less appealing. the more nikki haley continues to provoke donald trump, the more he comes up with these

insults and this aggressive rhetoric, which turns off independent voters, urban voters, often women, those people are people who even with all their misgivings about joe biden, will he go for anybody but trump? so that's what he has to hope solidifies over the next ten months. >> let's speak about nikki haley, because she is staying in the race. she says she's not going anywhere. does she have a path to victory? as slim as it might be. >> i mean, it is vanishly slim. it would require an upset for the ages for her to turn this around. partly because she's now on despite being in her home state. it's hostile territory for her. all the parties lined up with donald trump. it's not the state politically, that it was when it made her governor in 2010. instead, it has become very maga, very make america great again. and that makes it so hard for her. the other states that follow,

there are not many that are congenial for her. bottom line is donald trump is popular among republicans. thatst pretty handy if you're trying to win the republican nomination. nevertheless, the longer she stays in is significant because there will be some of those decenting republicans, that's where the 25% figure i referred to before refers to, in new hampshire, that sort of number. that's a big number. republicans who do not like trump. and those people, when independents can vote, they help her. and every day she stays in, it's good news for joe biden, because it means the republicans are fighting each other rather than fighting him and because as i mentioned, it provokes donald trump to get angry. he does not like anybody that particularly, trump records suggest, women standing up to him and not falling into line. we see that in the jean carroll

case. huge $83 million sum that he has to pay out to her for defaming her. the advice columnist. it is all in the minds of the suburban swing voters. the personality traits they do not like about donald trump. joe biden says don't compare me to the almighty. compare me to the alternative. until now, people didn't see clearly that alternative. that alternative is donald trump. he has to hope that somehow in that comparison, he comes with all his flew flaws. it almost certainly will not win. it has a huge impact on the 2024 race. jonathan, fascinating getting your insights. thanks for your time. >> good to be with you. the heads of the u.n.

agency holding palestinians in gaza say the group might have to end operations there. these nine countries paused funding for the u.n. relief and works agency also known as unrwa. accusations by israel that a handful of unrwa workers with issue involved in the october 7 attack. the u.n. secretary general is weighing in, saying the apparent alleged acts of the staff members must have consequences. but the tens of thousands of men and women who work for unrwa should not be penalized. the dire needs of the desperate populations they serve must be met. the need for aid is painfully clear in the hospitals. according to the hamas controlled ministry of health, the complex is running out of drugs, other medications, and transfusions. a shortage that the ministry spoke man calls severe and dangerous. doctors without borders says

the hospitals vital medical services have collapsed. the palestine society warns oxygen supplies at the hospital have been depleted and medical teams are unable to perform surgeries. heavy fighting continues today for the 7th day. the israel defense forces said again today, it is carrying out what they call precise operations against hamas. the palestinian officials say in reality, the hospitals themselves are under siege. cnn is live for us in abu. let's start with unrwa. it's a lifeline for palestinians in gaza. what happens if the agency stops operating? >> reporter: well, anna, it's the biggest provider of humanitarian aid in gaza and if it were to cease operations, it

is not the case that another group could then take its place. it does have infrastructure within the gaza strip itself. we've heard from u.n. officials, right up to the u.n. secretary general, antonio gutierrez asking countries which have pulled their funding temporarily to reconsider the secretary general saying some 2 million people rely heavily, especially at the moment with such a dire situation in gaza, on this aid. also pointing out they only have funding through to next month and not even until the end of next month. so there could be catastrophic consequences if that aid were to end. now we heard from the unrwa chief, philippe, he called the decision to pull the aid and the funding shocking by some of these countries, he release add statement saying quote, it would be immensely irresponsible to sanction an agency and an entire community

it serves because of allegations of criminal acts against some individuals. especially at a time of war, displacement, and political crisis in the region. now there are other countries, for example, norway, and ireland who decided not to pull their funding. they have said they understand the need for it and also have put their trust in the united nations to be able to investigate what has happened. we heard from unrwa and the secretary general that nine individuals have been immediately terminated. one has already been killed during the hostilities in gaza and two more are clarifying that information. anna. >> many thanks. coming up a little later in the program, i'll speak with a foreign policy adviser to isreali prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. the war between israel and hamas nears four months, israel

defense forces estimate that only 60% of the tunnels built by hamas under gaza have been found so far. but cnn jeremy diamond reports, that's one of the challenges facing israel as they work to drive out militants and find the remaining hostages. >> the bullet went in the cheek, got inside my jaw, and took a piece of my jaw and under a corner, and then went down over here to my neck and stayed there. >> master sergeant is lucky to be alive. >> that's the bullet here. >> wow. >> kneeling on the edge of this tunnel shaft, he says he was shot by a hamas militant hidden inside. ricochet off the tunnel wall likely saving his life. >> when i turn my flashlight on, i saw a gun and light flash. gun flash, and then i felt like

five hammer that was inside the hard lava, just like, punched into my face. >> as he crawled away from the tunnel shaft, the soldiers in his combat engineering unit killed the gunman. but his brush with death speaks to the enormous challenge hamas tunnels still present to the isreali military after three months of war. >> there was upper gaza and lower gaza. there's upper and lower. it's a very tough mission. >> general norial, a former member of israel's national security council estimates israel has only discovered about 60% of the hundreds of miles of tunnels below gaza. >> we blew up something like 20%. so, a lot of work ahead of us. it's not something that can be finished within a few weeks. it is a question of months.

>> exposing and destroying these tunnels has been central to israel's mission in gaza. where it dropped enormous bunker busting bombs that penetrate deep under ground. leaving enormous craters and often causing heavy civilian casualties. but there is also concern for isreali hostages held under ground. >> we cannot just blow up all those tunnels. assuming that hostages are there, at least 50% of them. so we have to do it slowly, slowly. >> that means sending troops deep into trapped tunnels, where hamas fighters could be laying in wait, before rigging and detonating them. in the meantime, many hamas fighters are surviving in sophisticated tunnels. equipped with electricity, bathrooms, and stocks of food

and water. but for how much longer? >> how long they can stay there, it's a good question. not for good. they will not be able to survive there because of all the conditions, let's say for more than two more months. >> for now at least, that means the battle rages on. both above and below the surface. >> jeremy reporting there. russia launches a widespread offensive in ukraine for the big guns on the defender's side are often silent. ahead, we'll explain why it's not by choice. and paris is entering the final stretch of construction ahead of this summer's summer olympics. the impact it's having on residentnts, when wewe return.

ukraine's security service has uncovered a major embezzlement scheme involving the purchase of military equipment. officials say ukraine set aside $40 million to buy mortar ammunition from a private

company in 2022. the ammunition was never received. some of the money was transferred abroad. officials say five people have been indicted and they are facing up to 12 years behind bars. one suspect was detained while trying to leave the country while investigators are still working to find the others. ukraine is forced to play defense as it approaches the second anniversary of its war with russia. that's partly because a lot of the western military aid needs is sold by internal politics, political disputes in the u.s. and the eu. as fred reports, ukrainians are running short of ammunition, just as russia's military machine goes into overdrive. >> artillery is key, as ukrainian forces try to hold off massive russian assaults on the eastern front. kyiv's ammo shortages are getting worse by the day. this u.s. provided m-109 near

backnude often silent. we cannot fulfill our tasks 100%, he says, although we really want to. my crew and other crews are just waiting for it and are ready to work around the clock. but it gets even worse. finally, resupply does arrive. it's only four rounds and this type of ammo went hurt the russians much. >> this illustrates the shortages ukrainians have to deal with. four rounds, that's all they'll get right now. they are not even explosive rounds, they are spoke rounds. >> these shells will barely explode on impact. it's like firing cannon balls. sometimes, it's all they can do. >> every shell that is suitable we use, it's better than no shells. the russians face no such shortages in this area.

ukrainian military believes russia produced 2 million rounds last year and acquired around 1 million from north korea. massive barrages have layed waste to mahmoud. at the headquarters of the artillery division, the administration is palpable. from their drones, they can see the russian gather to continue their assaults on ukrainian positions. they can't take them out because they need to conserve ammunition. the ratio was about 10-1, he says, ammunition is important to us, russia is a country that produces ammo. they have strategic reserves. they use old soviet systems. but soviet systems can still kill. even without enough ammo, the ukrainians are stopping most russian assaults here. the crew did manage to fire at russian positions. but they know they'll need a lot more fire power to stop

russian advances. cnn, ukraine. flooding rains are finally moving out of the eastern u.s., but get ready for another atmospheric river that is coming to the west. details when we return.

welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm anna. this is cnn newsroom. more now on the situation in gaza. the united nations secretary general is asking countries not to suspend funding for the agency hopoping paleststinians gaza. nine countries paused funding for the u.n. relief and works agency also known as unrwa

after accusations by israel that a handful of unrwa workers were involved in the october 7th attack. israel has not publicly released its evidence. unrwa fired the accused staffers and launched an investigation into the allegations. unrwa provides humanitarian and other services to the more than 2 million people in gaza. a foreign policy adviser for israel's minister. thank you for your time. what is the evidence against these unrwa staff members? please tell us. >> well, there's an abundance of evidence against at least a dozen unrwa employees who participated, actually participated in the october 7th atrocities where 1,200 isrealis were murdered. women were repeatedly raped. people beheaded. children burned alive.

again, there were at least 12unrwa employees who participated in these atrocities. it seems like this is the tip of the iceberg. >> so you're saying at least 12. you think there will be more? >> it looks like that. it looks like we're an an in-depth investigation is needed. the isis terrorists were using during these atrocities, and by means of investigations of these hamas terrorists that were arrested, so there's an abundance of evidence and an in- depth investigation is underway. >> so these staffers were caught on camera? is that what you're saying? >> what i'm saying if there's an abundance of evidence, that's one of the reasons why there are at least nine countries that have frozen the

funds to unrwa. unrwa has perpetuated the problem. it hasn't solved anything. they just perpetuated it. for them, the refugee issue is a big business to get over $1.7 billion of budget yearly and for them, it's just a big business. >> you talk about this abundance of evidence that has been gathered. what specifically is the evidence? i think that's what the public wants to know. >> well, there is an abundance of evidence that has been on film. it's on camera. based on investigation of hamas terrorists that have been arrested and they provided a lot of information. and this is being exposed. it's being exposed daily, and clearly, unrwa is perpetuating thepalestinian problem. a problem that had about 200,000 refugees in 1948 has

expanded into something like 5.5 million. it's a big business for unrwa. for unrwa and for their leadership. >> we know that the staff has been fired, but if the allegations are true, why haven't these 12 members, one i believe is dead, why haven't they been arrested? >> well, the first step was for them to be fired. obviously, unrwa wouldn't fire these guys if there wasn't an abundance of evidence. and the next step obviously will be to take more further measures against these dozens, and dozens more unrwa employees who have taken part, participated, clearly they knew about this and they are gleeful about this. there are thousands of employees who have expressed

enthusiasm over the october 7th atrocities. and i think that an in-depth investigation is required. at any rate, israel -- sorry. go ahead, sorry. >> i was just going to say, we know there's a long standing friction between israel and unrwa. decades in fact. and your foreign minister is calling for the agency to cease operations once israel ends its military operation. isn't israel punishing all gazans for the alleged actions of a few? >> absolutely not. israel is waging war at hamas, not against the palestinian people. the idf and israel is destroying hamas as we speak right now. we will destroy hamas. we will demilitarize gaza, so it won't pose a threat ever again. most importantly, gaza and the

palestinian society at large needs to be radicalized. the 1 00 square miles to the south of israel's border might be the most radical area on earth. why? because unrwa and other organizations have poisoned the minds of palestinians for decades. they manipulated the minds of the youth. they told the youth to cherish death instead of to terrorist life. they taught them to murder jews is a good thing. that has to end. >> do you think unrwa would reject those claims? that you are making? they say they have informed you of weapon storage. they have anymored militants in the past mr. so i think they certainly would object to what you are saying. >> first of all, anna, first of all, we can start by calling people who have had children and burned babies alive. we can call them terrorists. call them what they are. they are terrorists and we will

destroy the terrorist organization called hamas. we will destroy them. >> we are talking about unrwa right now. and the concern is, if aid is suspended, what does that mane for thepalestinians? you're talk about two million that unrra provides a lifeline. what is going to happen? thepalestinians and gaza. >> excuse me, anna. unrwa does not provide them a lifeline. it's a big business for them. $1.6billion a year. that's a big business for unrwa. unrwa and hamas are intertwined. it's important to understand that. we have an abundance of evidence, over a dozen unrwa employees who took part, participated in the atrocities of october 7th. the beheading of children. the burning of babies alive. we need to understand this. an in-depth investigation needs to take place and people should

start resigning from unrwa, frankly. >> you want to see unrwa abolished. you want to see it cease operations. what is the alternative? >> there are international humanitarian organizations that are not tainted with terrorism. that do care for humanitarian aid. and they need to step up to the plate. there are organizations that have stepped up to the plate. but unrwa perpetuate the problem. they are intertwined with hamas. over a dozen of their employees have took part in the atrocities of october 7th and taken four months. it's taken four months for their leadership to take out these employees and to fire them. so, i think we should wake up. it's the tip of the iceberg, it's being exposed. unrwa is being exposed and i'm very happy, the u.s., uk,

germany, and other countries frozen the funds for this organization, which is tainted with terrorism. we need to understand this. >> so just to be clear, this u.n. body, you would like to see it completely abolished from gaza. is that correct? >> what i would like to make clear is that israel will destroy hamas, will dismantel gaza so it will not pose a threat to israel ever again. and that gaza needs to be derat deradicallized. the best way of doing that -- >> you believe unrwa is responsible for radicalizing the population in gaza, just to be clear? >> they sure have their fair share of responsibility, yes. >> tell me how can israel ensure humanitarian aid is stepped up in gaza?

and how will this meet the new obligations under the ruling? >> israel has enabled hundreds, perhaps even thousands of humanitarian trucks. trucks that have provide humanitarian aid from day one. food, water, and medical aid. it's important that humanitarian aid is reached the civilians, to the humans, to the civilians of gaza and is not hijacked by hamas. the president of the united states made that very clear on october 18th. we have to make sure hamas is not how they hijacked the eight. there are humanitarian organizations that can step up to the plate. humanitarian organizations that are not tainted with terrorism, like unrwa is. >> can you tell us the status of the hostage negotiations? will israel suspend fighting

for two months in exchange for the release of more than 100 hostages as has been reported? >> well, israel has been able to release 110 hostages to date. the main reason perhaps the only reason that israel has been able to release these hostages was because of pressure. more pressure and measure applied by the idf on hamas. the more pressure that there is applied on hamas, the greater the probability of freeing more hostages. we intend to free the 136 hostages. to get them back home. the best way to do that is to apply pressure on hamas. that is what is being done right now as we speak. we're destroying hamas. we killed thousands of these terrorists. we have dismantlinged hundreds of miles of terror tunnels and infrastructure in gaza. we will continue to do so until

hamas is destroyed. gaza is demilitarized and total victory in this war. that the hamas waged on us. on october 7th. >> dr. folk, i want to ask you one more question. you obviously advise prime minister netanyahu. he's under growing pressure to step down. he stands by his criticism of qatar at a time when obviously there is this progress in negotiations for hostage deal. was that a smart thing to do? him criticizing a country that is play ago key role in these negotiations? >> well, anybody who can play a key role, anybody can facilitate the immediate and unconditional release of hostages should do that. over 100 days have passed since these hamas monsters have taken over 240 civilians hostage. i think anybody who has the

ability of playing a role should do that. if washington qatar has the ability, they should do it. >> we appreciate you coming on and speaking to us. >> thank you, anna, thank you very much. city with cnn. much more after the break.

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in america, the super bowl shop will be set by the end of the day sunday. cnn sports correspondent joins me. carolyn, plenty of conversation around taylor swift and the kansas city chiefs and we'll get to that in a moment. let's start with the other game and a once in a lifetime opportunity for the detroit lions and their fans. >> it really is. this is something their fan base has been waiting decades for. they've never been to the super bowl. they have only been to the nfc championship twice. the game before the super bowl. it's going to be a very tall order for them against a talented squad. if the fans are any indication, they will be ready. their touchdown underdogs against the san francisco 49ers, but after nearly seven decades, detroit has the feeling of a team of destiny. listen to this. a watch party at their home stadium has sold out with tickets selling on the secondary market going for over

$100. that's just to watch on a giant television. one fan got a tattoo way back in august before the season even started. he proclaimed they were super bowl champs. this team has the full support of it city. >> it is second to none. i've never seen anything like it, you know? you can feel how authentic it is. you can feel the love and the want from the entire city. so just being a part of it is special. >> meanwhile, a couple mvps squaring off in the other game, lamar jackson leading the baltimore ravens to the afc championship for the first time while patrick mahomes and kansas city are back for a sixth straight season. of course, there's the taylor swift factor, too, like you mentioned, no doubt that she will be in baltimore cheering

her boyfriend, travis kelce and the chiefs. back to december, which the doomsayers were talking about distractions. kelce says not a chance, and he isn't the only one. >> i brought this upon myself. i do enjoy having fun with it all and the biggest thing is making sure my focus is right here in this building. as long as we are happy, we can't listen to anything that is outside noise. >> i have taylor swift songs in my phone, i do. >> are they going to be deleted this week? >> what does that have to do with it? >> she is staving the opponent. is there a time limit in this press conference? >> there will be a lot of this coming around. swift coming off a difficult week with ai images circulating. hopefully she'll be feeling good. it should be a loft fun as we get set for the super bowl on sunday. >> absolutely. carolyn, thank you so much for your time. i'm in hong kong, thank you

for your company. cnn this morning is next. for the rest of the world, it's beyond cop.