>> maybe we will? do you think we'll? >> i don't know. all right -- [silence] >> you may be seated. [inaudible] do you swear that the testimony is true? >> i do. >> would you [inaudible] >> it's jennifer crumbley. j e and an f e.r.. c r u m b l e y.

>> can you step on the podium so i can see a little better? [silence] >> that might have been the microphone. >> it seems like a thing catched. >> all right, good afternoon. i just need to get, is there any way we can put the screen up? what i'm going to have to do

is, i'm going to leave this [inaudible] a little bit. when i need an exhibit, i'll [inaudible] i don't have those fancy links between slides. >> [inaudible] they don't go simultaneously. >> they don't, but -- [inaudible] >> i feel like i'm the only one i can see all three of them. this one is not on. >> let's see what happens when i go like -- i'm going to have to pull it out. i apologize. adam, it'll come out, all right, mrs. crumbley. can you please start by the jury who you are. >> my name is jennifer crumbley

another defended in this case. >> how old are you? >> 45. >> mrs. crumbling, the jury has heard so much testimony, do you agree? >> yes. >> i'm going to go a little bit faster through things, and if there is something we need to explain, or if i'm cutting you off, please let me know. can you understand that as i speak, you have to wait for me to finish speaking? >> correct. >> mrs. crumbly, very briefly, go ahead and tell the jury what you did for a living. >> i was a marketing director at a market the acquisition company. >> helen five years. >> does that kind of position include presentations or public speaking, anything like that? >> not a lot. >> how do you feel right now about talking to this jury? >> public speaking is probably my biggest fear, very nervous. >> at times, you have been upset during this trial, is that correct?

>> correct. >> are you okay to keep proceeding? >> yes. >> i want you to tell this jury just a little bit about your personality. i think we've seen some of it on video, is that fair to say? >> we have. >> let's talk about when you had a really stressful situation. what is your, let's say an animal died, or a family dies, how do you handle something like that? news like that? >> i go into planning mode. i internalize things. my reaction is to take care of other things that have to be taken care of like financials or things that keep the house running. i just tend to hold things and. i let it out when i'm alone. having a lot of emotions for me is difficult. >> in this case, a side from this case, is that true and other situations and your life?

>> yeah. >> can you give the jury an example? >> my husband had a hard time holding down a job after his mother passed away. when he would lose a job, i would be the one finding the ones for him and sending them from monster, taking plans for how we would put things on payments. i take control of things, that's what i do. >> you, i want to talk to you, you mentioned your husband. when did you and james crumbley meet? >> in october 2004. >> how long have you've been together? >> it will be 18 years this september. >> are you still to get there and married at this time? >> we are. >> have you spoken to him recently? >> no. >> how long has it been since you've spoken to him? >> a little over two years. >> since the day of the shooting.

the day you were arrested. >> correct. >> you have a son. the jury has heard a lot about your son. i want to talk about your son prior to november 30th, okay? tell the jury how old he was at that time. >> he was 15 years old. >> give the jury an idea about what kinds of things he was and, to what his hobbies included. >> he was very into bowling. he was good at it. he was very good at metal detecting. he was -- >> what do you mean by metal detecting? >> we have a metal detector, we would go to the beach, or we went to florida, out by the ocean, -- there are not there any more, but the neighbor's yard, old coins or cans, whatever he's fine. he really liked that. he was into his bb guns and target practice. he had a half acre of land and that went straight back. in the backyard they set up targets that we got from amazon

he could shoot down. let's see. he was in two video games. he did soccer from age three until ninth grade. he was, he had a lot of different interest. coin collecting. >> do you have interests? >> i do. >> we've heard about horses. >> i like horses. i also snow ski. i am a big reader. i worked a lot, so i didn't have a lot of time to do the reading. >> would you say snow ski, did you ever -- owe, backup. were there any activities that you enjoy doing together? >> yes. i joined a ski patrol because the family can ski free, and to help people out. i got him into skin at the age of seven. he would come out with me on patrol ships, comes again with me. we did that together.

>> what about horses? did he ever go out to the farm with you? >> he did. but he didn't really like horses. the horse i had was aggressive, it intimidated him from going to the barn. it's boring if you are not the person with the horse, there's a lot of standing around, a lot of nothing. >> would you spend time together with him at home? tell the jury what kinds of things you did together, or as a family? >> we did a lot of board games. we also have the -- for the ps4 so we did the saver, -- >> i don't know what you are talking about. >> it's a light saber, it has music, you have to hit the beats but it's in 3d. it's a virtual reality headset. >> you would do that with him? >> yeah. >> what else? >> we had a pool, we like swimming together. i mean, really, normal stuff. >> did you do holiday things? >> we did. >> give us some examples.

>> every year around thanksgiving i would cook thanksgiving dinner. the day after we would cut our christmas tree down. we would decorate that weekend, we'd watch national limps christmas vacation. halloween we grew our own pumpkins, so we always carved our own pumpkins, and had a whole bunch around the house. easter, it's normal. normal. >> did you have an interest in home improvement kind of stuff? >> our house was an auction house. so basically it was wrapped in blue tarp when we bought it at auction, we've been trying to improve the house since 2015. we have a new roof, exterior, and then i've been working on the anterior ever since. >> were there things that your son was entrusted and outside of video games? was there anything academic he was interested and? >> he liked history, he was a

history buff. he can play trivial pursuit, he could get me every single time. but that is probably has, that was his only favorite subject. the rest he could do without. >> how did he do in school? >> he did good, if he applied himself. his problem was he didn't try as hard, so he had up and downgrades, i would say average. >> when you say average, is that something you talked about, monitored? tell the jury about that. >> you heard about the power school app during this trial, i had it on my phone. his grades would fluctuate based on what the assignments of the teachers turned and based on the power up. our biggest struggle with him was missing assignments. that was one thing we battled all the time. >> why was that a hot button issue for you? >> there was no reason he should have missing assignments, he had a home run he could get assignments done

and. >> there were, you talked about your child, what were the average hours you worked a week. >> i usually work between seven and eight in the morning, leave between four and six. >> we heard lots about this, it was family friendly. were you able to go if you needed to? >> pretty much. >> did you care about your job? >> i did, a lot. >> did you have any changes and positions over the year, or two years before this? >> i did. when i first started with the company, a social media coordinator, i stayed in that role until 2020, i got promoted to director of marketing. i held the position until i was terminated. >> and you were, did you work during covid? >> i did, i work to remotely for about six months during covid, then went back to the office, and i believe it was august 2020.

>> did you enjoy work? >> i did, it was fun. marketing is exciting, i like doing graphic design, i really liked my job. >> the jury already heard about bryant, bryan testified. tell the jury about brian. >> i've known him since high school, we've been friends since then, he is a part of the horse community, he has horses. as you heard yesterday, he had an extramarital affair. that's the extent of -- we were good friends to. >> how often would, in terms of the affair, would you spend time together with brian during 2021? >> an average of once a week. >> how long did the affair last? >> about six months. >> do you feel like that a fair cause you to neglect ethan, or

not spend time with him, i'm sorry, your son, and anyway? >> no. >> when i spent time with brian, it was the mornings. on his way home from the station, he would pass my work. he would go out about his day, i would go about mine. >> is it fair to say that you like to keep that affair going? >> yes, i did. >> what, i apologize if i asked this, i'm just writing notes, did you say that the date range that started? >> it was around spring of 2021. >> okay. did, as far as you knew, did you ever talk to your son about that? >> no. >> did you ever talk to your son or husband? >> no. >> if anything, you lied to him about what you were doing? or lied by omission, not

telling him. >> as far as he knew, i was going to work and the morning. >> outside of those morning times, how many other times would you say you and brian got together? >> it was two or three. i went on some business trips, i would stay overnight, he would meet me at the hotel. >> so that happened two or three times? >> were there other business trips you took where he did not meet you? >> yes, quite a few. >> when christy gibson marshall testified, do you remember who she was? >> i do. >> who was she? >> she was the assistant vice principal. >> and she knew ethan in elementary school, or she knew your son in elementary school, correct? >> correct. >> she said, she testified already about recognizing him. did that surprise you?

>> no. >> she also mentioned something about emails with you. do you recall having email exchanges with her? >> there is one regarding his report card, getting additional help in math. >> was there any time that that point, or into high school, that you ever had to email with teachers about discipline issues? >> not discipline, no. >> how often would you email about missing assignments or great issues? >> that was a regular thing. >> you said there are schools every day, approximately how many times a month would you go to the teachers, or wasn't weekly, i don't know? >> it would be, i would say it was a regular basis, but when it happened, it was a series of messages. he'd be struggling and geometry, and me and the teacher would message back and forth quite a bit. he started getting better, it

was die off. it was sporadic. it was a lot when it happened. >> now we saw pictures of your house, how did you feel about seen those pictures? >> horrible. >> okay, why is that? >> because my son has a very messy room and it was right after thanksgiving, right after thanksgiving. we hosted thanksgiving. it was pretty messy, it was embarrassing. really embarrassing. >> explain that to budge and think, what was going on with that? >> sorry, my son, he had one bedroom. it got out of control. every time i went to clean it, i shut the door, didn't want to deal with it. i told him he could use the guest bedroom until i could get his room cleaned. the day before thanksgiving, i was deep cleaning, we have people over every thanksgiving. my attention was to clean both rooms, i caught my oven on fire and self clean mode. so instead of, i had the fire department out and everything.

instead of getting his room clean, i'm scraping the block charcoal out of the oven the next day. he wasn't the second bedroom because i didn't want to clean his room anymore. it was enough. >> do you have any plans to do anything with all that stuff? >> yeah, we're going through a lot of stuff because he outgrew a lot of clothes, and shoes. there is a lot of toilet things that he doesn't use any more. we're going to pack it up and donate it. >> when are you planning to do that? >> between thanksgiving and christmas. before he got new stuff. >> now we saw a video, i guess i want to talk about, there is one in particular, your son spent a lot of time with, correct? >> we're not going to say his name, let's refer to him as -- overall, was that your son's only friend? >> that was his only friend that came over. he did have friends that he

talked to during school, but that was the only front he spent time with outside of school. >> how long would you say he came over? >> he used to walk home with him every day from school, the summertime he would go on camping trips with us. sometimes he would spend more than a week with us. he called him my second son. >> he was the second son. did you know he would be moving away at any point? >> not that abruptly, no. >> when he moved away, was it a surprise to you and your son? >> it was. >> what kinds of things with the boys do together at your house? >> they would go to a lake and go fishing. they would walk too little caesar's or frosty boy. they would go in the backyard, shoot the babies, go swimming and the pool. we took them bowling a lot. they would play video games. >> now when you had him over at

the house -- >> were listening to jennifer crumbley on the stand and her defense. she is talking about her son ethan's best friend, who ultimately moved away prior to the shooting. it's been seen as the precipitating event the 2021 deadly shooting and oxford high school. we're going to get in a quick break, we'll be right back with more of her testimony.

breaking news, we're going to take you back to michigan where the mother of ethan crumbley, the oxford high school shooter is testifying in her defense, she is facing four counts of involuntary manslaughter. let's listen. >> was there ever a time where you took away your son's phone?

>> yes. >> do you recall when that was? >> i don't remember exactly. i just know he got really angry about it. but we took it away a couple times. took his video games away. >> why did you do that? >> missing assignments and grades. >> so same stuff. >> same stuff. >> we're going to talk about some of the text messages, and you agree, the prosecution say the text messages about one of the times he took away his phone. >> correct. we'll get there, okay. i want to talk about mental health, did you ever believe that your son needed mental health treatment? therapy, counseling, anything? >> no. there are a couple times when ethan has anxiety over taking tests. anxiety about what he was going to do after high school, whether it was college, military. he expressed those concerns to

me. but not to a level where i felt he needed to go see a psychiatrist or mental health professional. >> did you ever deny him, or say, no, i'm not going to take you to a mental health professional? did he ever ask you? >> no. one time when he was talking about what he wanted to do for his future, i don't know, he was feeling down about it and stressed. we did, my husband called the school counselor to try to talk to him because they do a lot of future planning with the tech school. >> was that a mental health issue? >> it was more or less addressing what was upsetting my son at the time. >> what was upsetting him? >> the fact that he didn't know what he wanted to do. his grades weren't great. he was stressed about getting into college. he just, he would have a hard time with his future goals.

>> was there ever a time he was considering the military? >> he talked about it, yes. >> any other things he talked about? >> he wanted to go, he wanted to design video games. he wanted to own a car shop, not be the mechanic but only the shop. that was about it. >> were there other kinds of health treatments you did get for him? did you take him to the doctor? how often, or when? >> when he got sick, if it was, obviously, well during covid it was different. every little thing i freaked out about. we will take him to get a covid test, or take him to the doctors. growing up, it would be, if he had a headache that persisted for longer than a week, but most things are not, nothing

serious. >> did you, did he have insurance? did you have insurance coverage on your son? >> my husband dead. >> always, or were there times when you didn't? >> all the way up through october of 2021, when my husband lost his job. i was going to add him on to my health insurance in november of 2021 at the end of the period. that was the only time that -- >> was that one of the outstanding things going on that the day this unfolded? >> it was. >> despite, in addition to physically going to the doctor, did you have access to some kind of virtual plan? >> for my company, allied health network. it's a virtual doctors visit. the prescriptions were free to, they didn't cost anything. we use that if he had struck throw, we took a picture of the

throat, send it to the doctor. they can treat it from there. >> nor there times when you called that visits regarding your son? >> yeah. >> were there times, did you ever go to an urgent care, anything like that? >> yeah. >> for what kinds of things? >> usually for sports physicals but if he, if he was younger and had a high fever, and his regular doctor couldn't get him, we take him to urgent care. he's never had an injury or anything, mainly just that. >> was there ever a time that he had an issue with-able on his back? >> he had a mole in the middle of his back. when i was putting sunscreen on him i noticed it change color, so i made an appointment with a doctor to take him in and take a look at that. >> that was when he was much younger, correct? >> he was about seven i believe. >> you mentioned something about headaches for a week. you took up to the doctor. was there a time when he had a headache issue? >> he was getting really bad headaches that we couldn't figure out what it was. >> one was that?

>> started, it started young. probably around five years old. he kept complaining, the doctors didn't say anything. we even got an x-ray of his head, to see if there was any bumps or -- >> was this five or six years old? >> i don't know when it was. >> it's gone on through the years. >> so we found out that he needed glasses. around eight or nine we caught him glasses, that didn't work. he got x-rays done for dental in middle school. found out he had a severe under bite that is causing tension and the back of his neck so we got him braces and eighth grade. once he had his braces, that seemed to fix the headaches. >> okay. with the braces, was that -- >> no. >> why not? >> he's horrible and brushing his teeth.

he used the water peck we got him. he wouldn't rush properly. he would constantly get cavities and his braces. we took the wires out because one time he had 13 cavities under his braces. >> i'm sorry, prior to him getting braces, did he have cavities? >> yeah, he had a few. >> did the braces, was that more after the braces? >> he wasn't brushing properly around his braces so he was getting it under. we had to get the wires removed and take him to get those filled before the wires could be put back on. >> it was an often on procedure. >> yeah. >> i want to go through some exhibits for you, with you, that this is proposed as an exhibit -- >> were listening to jennifer crumbley on the stand in her own defense as she faces four counts of involuntary manslaughter following the 2021 shooting at oxford high school where her son ethan crumbley was the shooter, now convicted.

we are going to take a quick break, we'll be right back as the testimony continues.

>> we're continuing to follow the breaking news into cnn. this case and michigan has the potential to be historic. prosecutors here are testing the limits of who is responsible for a mass shooting after charging the parents of ethan crumbley, the shooter at the oxford high school shooting

in 2021. both of them are facing separate cases, each of them for involuntary manslaughter. the shooter's mom is now on the stand. here is the testimony of jennifer crumbley, the mom. >> [inaudible] >> i don't know if it was anything amongst those pictures [inaudible] the timeframe in and of itself i think is appropriate. >> just so we're aware, there are close to 2017, 2019 -- >> those are in the following ones where he did picture by picture. those will go through after the -- >> this is [inaudible] >> 2020, 21. >> [inaudible] i think the timeframe is close enough. i will find a way to overrule

the objection. -- there is a lot of pictures so i don't know if [inaudible] i'm sorry? >> we can go exhibit by exhibit. >> okay. >> the pictures in 2020, the pictures of the defendants are small. the exhibit contains a lot of small pictures. i looked at those, i'm assuming the prosecution has. i don't know if the pictures are objectionable if the car to the pictures. >> it's the relevant dates, that's the objection. >> so, mrs. crumbly, the jury is going to get these if they want to set and look at them all. i don't want to go through all of them. their ends up being pages and pages. what are all of these? >> the ones that are on the screen right now, it's christmas of 2020 with the two white dogs and us in front of the christmas tree. >> i'm trying to get an

overview of topics. >> animals, us going on vacation. cnn dunes. campaign. holidays. more campaign. horses, garden. my home stuff. cooking. more campaign pictures. we got a bathroom remodel. another christmas picture. >> okay. and these pictures, they give an idea of the variety of things you posted. >> yes. >> so if your facebook messages appear to have more discussion of horses, how would you characterize the amount of horses on facebook compared to the rest of your life? >> over the last couple of

years more. it was hard getting a picture of my son as he got older, he didn't like me taking pictures of him. between 2020, up and tell end of 21. there are a lot of pictures on horses. >> i'm going to unplug this into exhibit c. i -- this goes back to 2019. i would like one or two pictures from that year, as exhibit sea. we'll see andy. if the court just wants to let me know -- >> see andy. can you identify those pictures? >> yes. >> what's nc, what's the date? >> it's june 26, 2019. what is that a picture of? >> it's a picture of my son holding his chinchilla. >> and what about a picture,

let's see here, the. >> do you need the date? >> it's august 9th, 2019. >> what's the picture of? >> my son putting our horse. >> judge, it's fine. i don't have any problem. >> okay -- >> the rest of them. >> okay, thank you. >> so -- >> you are talking about these pictures, and others, so they -- >> i'm sorry, i'll add on just one more. mrs. crumbley [inaudible] >> do you want -- >> yes. >> do you agree [inaudible] >> yes, we just need the dates identified, that's all. >> i can get them to her if i need to look [inaudible] >> there not adjusting any of

them. >> no. >> so this is from missouri -- let's go through them. we are going to identify that dates for the record. going to exhibit, let's see, this is c. what is the date on c? >> june 26 2019. >> what is that? >> that's my son with his chinchilla. >> i'm going down to de, what's the date on that one? >> that one is august 9th, 2019. >> what's going on in there? >> that's my son with our horse. >> i'm going to go to e. >> that is his first -- >> were listening to the testimony of jennifer crumbley, who is the mother of convicted oxford high school shooter, ethan crumbley. here she is talking about some of the pictures that she took and posted on facebook up her son, but also a lot of her hobby, which was horses. certainly a case was made that she wasn't paying enough

attention to the needs of her son. we see them laying the groundwork here as they try to rebut that and the defense. historic trial here, a lot of ramifications for other school shootings and the potential for holding parents responsible. we're going to take a quick break, then we'll be right back to listen to more testimony from michigan.

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we continue to track live developments out of this courtroom in pontiac, michigan where jennifer crumbley is now going through facebook posts with the defense who is trying to describe her relationship with her son and family activities that they shared. we are of course going to keep

monitoring what is unfolding in court, but we want to get some perspective now. we have with us cnn correspondent jeanne casarez who's been tracking this case very closely. jeanne, what stands out to you about what the defense has shown so far? they've asked a lot about her personal life. >> front in center showing the other side of the story, showing that this was a normal family. you've got jurors who are watching this inches away, and many of them are parents. watching this about the holidays and what they do, and what their son did, and the disciplinary -- not disciplinary, but he wouldn't do his math work sheet, and things like that. it's relate-able. and as far as her demeanor, she's not emotional. we saw her very emotional this morning but she appeared to be very honest to talk about, she was petrified to talk in public that was her greatest fear. you saw the hives that just

started going over her body, she still has them right now up there because of her nerves. at this point it seems very real but on the direct examination it is very easy, she's talking about her life. there is going to be cross- examination, and that will be very aggressive. >> jeanne, what did you think about the coverage of the topic of the bedroom? and also her explaining why she had actually meant to have gone through the bedroom but she had been putting it off, she had put her off around thanksgiving as she was dealing with an oven situation, what is that the groundwork for? >> first thing that came to my mind was that that she did have access to that bedroom, not only did she have access but she had clean that bedroom. what would you see as your cleaning the bedroom? he had many things in that bedroom that, for all intents and purposes, the parents did not know about. the journal, his phone, his computer if he had one, what he was researching on there, so

her cleaning it may not have been going one step further to look what those things had to say. believing that that was his journal, and his private writings. we'll have to see how the prosecutor develops that, but she obviously had access to the bedroom and went through it by cleaning. >> jeanne, another moment that stood out when the defense asked point blank if ethan had ever expressed to her a desire to seek a medical professional from mental health issues. they specifically went with that question, there is some consideration about what the jury has seen given that there were text messages that ethan sent right in which he told a friend that he had sought help from his parents and his parents denied him. she said that a couple of times ethan had expressed anxiety about his life after high school, and that is why his dad contacted a counselor at the school to talk about his options, but that he'd never directly went to them seeking a

connection to psychiatrist. >> yeah, so if you're the jury right now all you know about is that ethan wrote in his journal, i'm asking my parents for help, they're laughing at me, they're not doing anything. she is now testifying under oath that she never saw any reason to have to get any help at all. here is what the jury is not going to find out, because it is privileged. ethan said it to a psychiatrist after he was arrested the psychologist is talking about this, he says you know what, i was lying. i didn't ever ask my parents for help, i was lying as i was putting in my journal that i was asking them, i didn't. and then ethan at his sentencing said i have lied to a lot of people, and i did this all by myself. but the jury is not going to hear that. they're only gonna hear boris what you just said, those two things, so they're going to have to weigh the credibility of jennifer versus really their credibility of the person not in the room, ethan crumbley.

>> they're going, jean, through all her facebook posts. which are copious. and her attorney is asking her about the fact that she seems to have a lot more photos of her horses than she does of her son. talk a little bit about if you would about why that is going to be, and has been, an issue in this case? >> because the legal standard is gross negligence. did she care about those horses so much, every day going out there 3 to 5 times a week is what the owner of the horse farm said that she would go out to her horses, her husband to. ethan never went out there, she said maybe he went out once. was a grossly negligent -- sometimes alone for hours, sometimes we even heard overnight possibly alone, and that then gross negligence caused the death of those four students once he got the gun and went to the school, and committed the mass shooting. it's important to see what her

prior ortiz were we heard just a moment ago that ethan didn't want to go to the horse form, he didn't like going to the horse farm, and even live pictures being taken of him. she just testified to that. she will probably explain it, but that is where the prosecution is going. >> there was another moment where the defense was asking her about his best friend, and the type of relationship that they had, the amount of time that they spent together, and what happens to athens demeanor after that best friends moved away. explain the significance of that portion of the testimony? >> this best friend was the one that ethan wrote thousands of text to saying what he was going to do at the school. they went to school together, saying what he was going to do with the school, he was going to get the gun, he was going to commit a mass shooting, and all these details that he was researching misogyny and has the death penalty because he wasn't gonna do it if michigan had the death penalty, but they don't so i'm gonna go through with it. that friend, and the jury does not know this, but he was

actually, and there might be some hints to it in the trial, but he was taken out of state and to a rehab facility in ohio and jerry doesn't know the extent of it and we don't know the extent of it, but he was taken at a school, at a state immediately, and that was the best friend of athens, and that's the one she's been testifying would always come to the house. >> when they're going through all of these photos and they're showing pictures of ethan, i know she said that he didn't like taking photos but you see some from when he appears considerably younger than he was when this crime was committed also pointing out there he is holding a chinchilla, kind of looking like a normal kids and enjoying animals, what is the point of what they're showing here? just that this is how she saw him? >> they were neglected, that he wasn't neglected, they were grossly negligent, that they

did things as family did to ensure normalcy within the household so that that foreseeability, because that's an element too of this, the foreseeability that ethan would commit that mass shooting, that it wasn't their, the life was just like a normal family. and also to relate to jurors. >> jeanne, we'll let you get back to watching the testimony, really interesting dynamic at play, import. again, this could potentially be historic. it's a novel, unusual legal theory where prosecutors are alleging that this gunman's parents, due to their action or lack of action are responsible for the deaths of students at oxford high school. >> that's right, and while jennifer currently is facing trouble right now and her husband will face trial separately, that's expected to -- he is the one who purchased the gun that ethan used. so that is obviously going to be a separate issue, but we will be right back with more of

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breaking news. jennifer crumbley, the mother of the oxford michigan high school shooter is now testifying in her own defense. >> fred crumbly facing f