the dirty little secret about immigration, well it's not so secret anymore. tonight on laura coates live. ♪ ♪ ♪ so, if there is any doubt in anybody's mind, republicans on the hill have made it crystal clear tonight. they really, really don't, apparently, want to solve immigration. not now, not today, anyway. by cnn's count, a majority of republicans in the senate are leading against the border bill, or actively planning to vote a big old know in the very first vote on the deal, which is scheduled to happen this coming wednesday.

this doesn't look good and the gop whip, john boone, saying tonight that a wednesday vote would be too early. a clear sign that most republicans would block it if the vote comes that day. meanwhile, speaker mike johnson is vowing the bipartisan, i repeat, the bipartisan border deal is dead on arrival. if it makes sense, if it even makes it to the house at all. republicans on the house judiciary committee announcing it a bad deal. -- hashtag kill the bill, a bill that would also include aid for ukraine and also for israel. montana democratic senator jon tester has had just about enough of all of it. >> people went to work in good faith and it, and now all the sudden good faces out the window. >> so, why is a deal worked out by a democrat, a republican, and an independent now suddenly on life support? some would say it comes down to two hours, donald trump.

the former president saying the quiet part out loud again. there isn't really a quiet part when donald trump is concerned, claiming what he calls radical left democrats are laying a trap for republicans, quote, just in time for our most important ever election. joining me now to break it all down is cnn capitol hill reporter nadia zanona, who i look to to help break down all of this tonight because it is confusing for so many people. you have a deal, you don't. there are text, there is not. there's the principle, there's objections. where are we tonight and what are the lawmakers signaling when they don't have this ready to go? >> right, we already knew this bill was going to be dead on arrival in the house. now, laura, it looks like it's going to be probably not even passed the senate where this deal was negotiated by this bipartisan group of lawmakers. some republicans they had this meeting tonight, they huddled behind closed doors it. with a little over an hour, we're told it was very animated, robust discussion. but afterwards those or both came out of saying that they

don't think this deal is going to have the support it needs to advance through a procedural vote on sunday. even james lancaster, he was saying that he doubt this would have the votes. it a remarkable blow and huge embarrassment for republicans who would initially demanded to border security a policy changes in exchange for ukraine aid, and huge reason for that, laura, you're so right, it's donald trump. he has changed the politics inside the gop and, in some cases, they're saying the quiet part out loud, which is they don't want to give joe biden and the democrats a win. >> isn't that astonishing, though? think about all that has been made of what has been happening at the border. democrats and republicans, independents, everyone in between, wanting to solve the problem and now there is one bill out there. it would not solve everything, we can admit that, but the devil is in the details. what is in the senate bill they don't want? >> i do think it's important to tick through it with in this bill because it is the most conservative immigration proposal that has been debated on capitol hill, probably, in

decades. asunder piece of the bill is this new authority to shut down the border. that would become available once average daily migrant crossings reach 4000 in one week's fan. it would only become mandatory once that average daily migrant crossing reaches 5000. republicans had issues with that. it's not an absolute authority. biden also has the power to temporarily suspend that authority if he determines is necessary. asylum, that was another big point of contention, but they ultimately agreed to raise the threshold to those seeking asylum. they're also in to speed up that process from right now. take a few years down to a few months. that was a big concession there for democrats. it would also restrict presidential parole authority, limit catch families, two big things that republicans would push for. on the democratic side something they were pushing for, this would authorize 250,000 new visas over five years for families. >> so, some of these issues we have heard a lot about, in particular. the idea of closing down the border,. the mandatory versus discretionary part of it, but

how is this so different than what the house republicans wanted? >> so the house republican party passed h.r. two, that was a much stricter, hard-line bill. it didn't get any democratic votes, but that would resume construction of the border wall. that would reinstate the controversial trump era remain- in mexico policy, and it would also require the use of e- verify, which is an electronic system that allows you to check whether a worker has eligibility to work in the united states. but, within the universe of republicans who are saying they are against the senate deal, they either say it doesn't go far enough or they say it is a bad deal and would actually attract more illegal immigration, which of course the sponsors of that package say is untrue. but another important talking point that we should point out here is that now some republicans, the same ones who passed h.r. to, say that biden already has the authority and that legislation isn't even necessary. so definitely a moving of the goalpost here when it comes from messaging of the problems. >> now they are saying that -- that he already had the power

and resources? you can massage that, in a sense, but what about the pathway to system ship? what about the catch and release program? these are important issues as well. >> we should point out that in this bill there was no discussion, and there is no provision that would provide a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. that, up until this point, has always been, at least part of the discussion when you're talking about immigration reform. comprehensive immigration reform on capitol hill. that wasn't in this bill. again, it is a very conservative proposal on its face and why some democrats are saying, in the senate, that they can't vote for this deal. there's also concern that, going forward, this is the new marker. that democrats have said, and biden has, that it would sign that senate package into law. so there is a lot of concern from the left and progressives that this is the new normal going forward, if there is another discussion to be had on immigration going forward. >> the fact you had to say if, right now, after all that has gone down tells you a lot about the frustrations of capitol

hill. melanie's internet, thank you so much. what republicans are engaged in a tug of war over this immigration and foreign aid to deal, the former president, by the way. >> this is a democrat trap, it's a trap for republicans that would be so stupid, is so foolish to sign a bill like this. it's actually one of the worst, one of the dumbest bills i've ever seen. i think it is totally dead in the house. >> frankly, we won't make a decision one way or the other until the senate passes the bill with its amendments. i don't have any idea what the bill is going to look like a few weeks from now. frankly, anderson, irresponsible to say that something is dead on arrival and we haven't even seen the final product from the senate. >> when to actually start deporting people, the flood stops at that point. people are going to pay $10,000 to a cartel did just get deported. >> i've got a duty to seven under and 50,000 texans, and all texans, did not cement into law a basically perpetuation of mass migration, which is what this bill will do. >> here to talk about all of

this, and where we go from here, i don't know where that is, former republican congressman joe walsh and former -- and democratic strategist, maria cardona. both of you here. thank you for joining tonight. i'm trying to walk through what is in the bill, what is not in the bill, and why congress can't take yes for an answer. joan, let me begin with you because democrats say this is the best bill republicans are going to say for a long time. are the right? >> -- your side tells me the answer is no, is what i'm guessing from that reaction. >> laura, i don't love the bill and i think there's enough that in the bill to give republicans an out. you combine that with the fact that they don't trust this president on this issue. we may disagree, i think there is good reason for that. i think a lot of what biden has done in the last three years has created this crisis. >> what is the bad? tell me what is the bad part? >> it would codify into law

that, 1.8 million people can enter this country illegally. like, all of a sudden, we're going to say up to 5000 illegally? barack obama ten years ago, barack obama ten years ago said 1000 a day was a crisis. now, in essence, or saying 5000 a day is a crisis. that is a scary number to codify. it is 1.8 million people a year. i think that is one major objection. >> that is not what it says, because it doesn't mean they're going to let them in and then that's it. what this bill does, laura, and as you know, and you reported on this, a lot of debris democrats and progressives have problems with this because it is enforcement only and it is pretty to crony an enforcement given what we're used to in terms of what a real negotiation on real immigration reform should be. there is absolutely no affirmative relief on here for dreamers, which the majority of americans believe they should be getting protections, or the long settled 11 million

undocumented immigrants who have injected trillions of dollars into our economy, have created businesses, and have really helped grow this economy. so, i think moving forward, what this betrays about republicans is that, even in the face of this being so draconian for democrats, joe biden came to the table, democrats came to the table in good faith, negotiated with some common sense republicans, and at the end of the day the whole maga republican, ingenue flooding at the altar of donald trump completely took this in bad faith and now they have betrayed, not just themselves, their party, but the american people. it is going to give democrats the ability to say they are unserious, feckless, and cowardly. >> i can't deny the obey ins to trump on this. there is no doubt the cult leader rules. but, laura, they don't trust this president. i mean, a pox on both houses. you're right, republicans have no interest at this point in helping joe biden. but, joe biden, the biden

administration ignored this issue for three years. >> that's not true, either. >> here we are with this crisis and here's the president saying help me, bail me out. i can see where republicans are -- >> hold on, on the trust issue, the trust issue you're pointing out is the idea that it is not mandatory for the border in certain stages. it's up to the president to decide whether to do so. >> joe biden could shut down the border tomorrow. the united states is not required to accept people who come here -- biden on his, donald trump tried and the supreme court >> i think the best thing joe biden can do is enforce current law, enforce all of the stuff, turn to the evidence and say get lost give me an up or down vote on ukraine. politically that would be wonderful. >> here's the problem with what you're saying about republicans

not trusting the president. it's republicans who demanded these changes for border security in order to do ukraine and israel. democrats and joe biden, they want the aid for israel, and they understand something wrong on the border and they said okay. let's come to the table. let's negotiate. because, guess what laura, that is what you do in congress. that is how you get things done. but it is impossible to do with the maga republicans who don't understand and have no interest in governing. that is going to be the problem for them going into the election. they've shown the american people that they absolutely cannot be trusted with any kind of power. >> let me stop you there for one second, i want to hear your response, as well. because we're talking around and about the so-called people. but there's new nbc news poll out that i want to share with people. they asked a question of who they think would do a better job at securing the border. 57% think that trump -- i don't want to do math tonight, who's

got on this issue, right? >> this saying it's going to be dead tomorrow. we'll be talking about it tomorrow and i don't think it will hurt republicans because, laura, that number is baked in. and republicans will be able to spin this in a better than a fashion than i have, but this issue is a weak issue for democrats. >> is part of this reason, i wonder if you think this, you mentioned at the beginning the timing. that he did nothing for three years. you disagree with that philosophy, as well. but, the timing of it, that this is coming during the election year, is that what is hurting the perception of biden being able to do a better job at the border than trump? >> i think it's more than that. as you know, immigration is an incredibly complicated issue and republicans have done a great job of weaponizing it against joe biden. there is no question about

that. what is happening at the border is not joe biden's fault. anyone who understands global migration, what happened during covid, foreign policy will understand that. hang on, joe. what the president did the first day in office was he offered, and it is still there in congress waiting for republicans, and it will never get any attention, because it is actually a real solution. comprehensive immigration reform, which we all know is the way to solve this. you cannot have just draconian border security and that's it and believe that people will stop coming. people will not stop coming because of what is going on on the global migration stage and what their suffering in their own country. we have to find a way to balance the flow of people. >> it's not just the republican base that believes trump is stronger, after they got elected biden encouraged

immigrants to come. he got rid of a few things of trump's policies that actually worked and he has not enforced law enforcement way he should have. >> the problem is i don't believe joe biden or democrats have leaned into immigration as much as they should because they are the ones that believe in a balanced approach. a balanced approached is with the majority of americans actually do agree with. that is what would fix it. look, -- >> hold on, maria, on that point, we'll talk about the balance. this is important. i think people do agree that a balanced approach is necessary, but the question is what are the balancing? that is the factors for people. hearing people talk about the idea of ports of entry, hearing about the impacts,. even in cities led by democrats. there is tension, so what are the balancing acts? >> no question. part of that is to accept additional border security. by the way, on those cities, that is critical. joe biden and this administration offered billions of dollars to help those cities

that republicans were pointed to saying, look at what joe biden caused, which of course wasn't the case. and they said no. so, again, the hypocrisy here, for republicans, is rampant. i do think that democrats have a chance to turn this around and really talk about what works because americans, they threw donald trump out of office because of the draconian ways in which he talked about immigration. >> i agree with maria that republicans, at this point, are playing politics. but i think there is a three- year history here where they don't trust this president because he didn't act. >> look, we'll give her the last word because the blazer out shined you. the last word has happened, next time -- , maria, thank you so much. up next, the case that could determine the course of november's election. what donald trump's attorneys will argue before the united states supreme court and what venezuela has to do with it.

another critical week for donald trump, which causes major implications for election day in november. if of course, he becomes the nominee. but how much do americans really care about trump's legal problems? while a new cnn poll finds that most voters want to his federal election subversion case resolved before the election. 45% of voters said that his actions after 2020 elections were illegal. 30 to say that his actions were unethical but not illegal. and 23% say that trump did nothing wrong at all. let's bring it all down with our federal prosecutor and contributing editor of new york magazine uncut could horry.

just look at those numbers people wanting to have some resolution, either a trial starting or a force completing before election day. that's in november. is that possible that it could happen? >> i think it's possible, but of course the odds are going down with the delay of the d.c. circuit. that just, say hypothetically that the decision came out tomorrow, right? there would be a process of potential bank review on the supreme court to review the justice could potentially truncated that but that is going to be up to them, right? really within the hands of the judges and the justices at this point. if things sort of broke the right way for the government i do think that there could be a trial over the summer or early fall, judge chutkan seems convoluted to that in court actually. so it's possible but the odds are going down. >> there's also another case involving the actual man, the ballot in places like colorado and beyond. the supreme court contemplating the 14th amendment and an insurrection clause. he has not been charged insurrection, he has not been

convicted of. it and of course he was not removed from office, the impeachment process dealing with the set of issues. but they are claiming that it's up to the voters to have him on the ballot or not. it's up to the voters to decide whether he should be on that ballot. not the courts. not some plaintive. you call that superficial. why? >> you, know i think that there are plenty of thorny legal issues here and plenty of thorny legal issues that i think the conservatives and justice will use this in favor of donald trump. however, i think the notion that removing it from the bell it would be a democratic was sort of facile. we have a constitution, we have laws that are designed to structure our elections. including by sitting qualifications. judges in court assess whether or not candidates are qualified for public office from time to time the question is whether they're doing that in line with the relevant roles, statutory, laws and constitutional provisions. the mere fact that the main force that colorado-enforced did in a particular way it takes it out of the hands of

the voters but it's democratic in the sense that the constitution is a democratic document and the state laws that govern elections are democratic and sort of instrument so i think it's just too simple to think it's anti- democratic. >> how about the argument that he is not an argument -- officer, what an officer's responsibilities are for the american public at home there's a clause that talks about taking an oath of office but doesn't say the president of the united states has other sections of the constitution. does the hold water for you? i think that argument might have, lakes with the supreme court. particularly the conservatives. the authority around this is ambiguous, there is a pretty good long view article written by a law professor, he wrote an op-ed about that. and i, think, look really we just have to get down to the brass tacks here this isn't some intellectual exercise the justices are real people with

real ideologies, and political preferences and we have to be real about this. i just think the odds that they would look at this complex legal issue and booed trump off the ballot i think that it's kind of wishful thinking. >> let me ask you, this you have a good piece of talking about the reality and the prospect of what would happen if a former president were convicted and placed in jail. i mean the first thing that comes to minus secret service. it's the idea of the impracticality. not only the global stage, and the views worldwide that it looks like to american presidents to go to prison but you've written about the impracticality of it. there would be some real challenges and i interviewed a secret service agent that was on george w. bush's detail. and he was telling, the look when i was doing this we thought about every possible way that someone could hurt the president. the notion of having to protect the president of prison never came up. and this is a subject that

gives him some anxiety because their principal objective is to protect the president but having him roam around in a minimum security prison with a whole bunch of other people they said that maybe someone doesn't want to assassinate president trump but maybe they just want to punch him? right? that's a risk to that he needs to be protected against the former president or at least that the secret service would want to protect him against so there would be a complex issue that would be manageable but would it not be a straightforward process as people would think. >> the civil consequences don't lead to prison in the same respect anyway. but it's a really good food for thought. thank you, haven't really important. >> thank you for having me. up next there is more to come a very special guest tonight in studio. grammy winning rapper easy. we'll talk about his brand-new book and how he made it to where he is today. back in a moment.

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over. the legendary d.c. is here with me now. so good to see you in the studio. i'm happy to meet you this way. >> likewise, likewise. >> i'm telling you, this book, first of all i had to find it because it was sold out everywhere. everyone's trying to read it. and when i went to, said i'm trying to find this it's always in the business section. i thought, i love this. i, mean you wrote this book from the perspective of trying to help people understand how to manifest. >> i wrote it as a motivational memoir. and it has a lot of my older business skills in it to how i got here. so, i just felt like it should be in the business section because it's all about self help, business and adversity are the things that make people successful. >> they said that they really go through the journey. not just here now. but what it takes to get from point, a to point b. when it feels like it's nothing as yourself, and the resilience to

propel. you that was really important to convey. >> yes, because for me there was no book that i couldn't pick up. so you have a combination of a lot of books i read, a lot of things that i learned in my life that i want to just put in book form. and i know everybody doesn't like to read. so one ideas that i did the audio you in my voice, because i know the people who really love, me love my music. so it helped a lot too. but when you read that, but that's everything i. and the reason why it starts the way it starts and ends the way it ends because i'm working on my next book, my next chapter in life. >> i, mean your evolution was really on display. it's very vulnerable as well. to tell everyone about to private life. your journey. there's a public persona, and then there is what you might want to keep to yourself. >> honesty's vulnerability and power. if you're gonna be, honest you have to be. honestly i, remind you there's some things for my lawyer.

>> what were those? >> well, you talk about the things that may do -- i, mean you describe at some point getting dressed in the morning. and this might be the last thing. it might be the last thing i die. in that has such a trauma, interwoven in that. yes, but it comes with the coaching of what we do. i, mean music is primarily the streets. there is kids coming out of these neighborhoods, but they still bring a lot of these things with. him and from, it was just my reality. i didn't say to make light of. it that's how i felt and i wanted people to know the severity of it. this is my everyday life. and when you see the finished product, you have to know that went through these things together. >> for some people who know your music, but may not have gone beyond that, it's always the person and the man behind the music. people may be learning about

you in this rome for the first time. can you just describe how you would characterize your journey? >> my journey is always been about evolution, empowering, teaching. that's why my first album was called the motivation. my second album was called the inspiration. my album after that was called the recessions. so if you look at the titles, and the intentions of it it's always giving people the game that i have learned. and the things that i have started to understand because i think the disconnect is we think that we have to stay the same way to still be successful and that's not true. and we have to give ourselves permission to involve and we have to give ourselves permission to keep going and to be successful on different levels that you can never, much i would never thought that i would be a new york times bestselling author. let alone thirds and fourth million. records you couldn't tell the people who i went to middle school, i dropped the school in

the sixth grade by the way. you write books. now imagine that? >> and i always tell people that we love the art. we love the artist. but when you can find on artists is the value on the purpose in line with art that somebody that i want to follow. and that's how i go about it. >> well the relatability, and the reality you speak of there is the connective tissue in this book. and i found myself reading, and going that the experiences might not be identical that i have felt that way. we dug into that moment when we thought the adversity are faced with on a daily basis, there is transferable knowledge there. and, you refused to be pigeonholed. you don't want to be defined as one thing. >> no. you can tell my things all i was a great artist wouldn't be

a great father, wouldn't be a great son, wouldn't be a great leader, a teacher. all those things. because it's your life. you have the life to be all the things that you want to be. i just hate when people tried to box when. by the, way when you tried to box me i'm going to always do it to show you that i can do it. a people that went to school with, me i told him i was going to be a big star one day. and it was, like you're crazy. go back to my hometown, and you see people and that conversation -- i'm not the new. >> i'm not done yet. i'm just getting started. >> how do you get people to feel, what you're describing, that sense of agency. that sums up fourth to know that they could do -- a lot of people use politics as that venue. they want to put their, dreams and hopes and somebody to represent them. that's one form of having power. or using. it how do you think people can do more to have that same feeling, that same power that you have. >> i just lead by example.

i'm not a role model. i'm not even those things. >> but you might be, you are to some people. >> i'm just a man of my word. i say what i, mean i mean what i say and i do what i say. and for me i just try to lead by example. because i know this younger generation already coming from places that i came from. but then you're also coming into a lot of money, a lot of power left understand it's bigger than you are in a position of leadership if you don't take that seriously. it's just like somebody being the next president. if you don't take that seriously, you have to see the -- so, if i'm following you and you are not integral, where does that take me? that's one of the reasons why love to pop. he was willing to die for what he believed in. not many people can say that. >> i said i would love to see him. here but he believed in it so much that he put his life on the vine. and i feel like that's

integral. and i feel, like we're in a position of leadership and you have to look at the people that are following your art and your way of life and you have to look at that and you have to know that you're responsible for that. that irresponsible. because we're following you. >> the members of congress, the mini candidate, a lot of people say that they want to lead and they want to adhere to the same velocity that you speak of, and how they know you from your music and your artistry. i wonder what do you think of the level of respect that is conveyed to your genre as opposed to it. do you feel this though, that you have the respect. >> i feel like i'm statesman. i feel like i haven't done enough in my, career that my word is my bone, and i feel like the respect to be on the music it's how people see me, move it's the rules that i put myself in. is the conversation that i had.

you don't do things like that. i feel like i went through those things. i know that there's people out there, who are going through these things that don't want to admit to, it or speak on it because they feel like it's. week until the. minute i go see a therapist. i have no problem with that. it's just going to make me a better father. it's going to making a better man. there's just 13 things that i think the respect is coming. of never been in a situation where somebody came to me and said, i'd like you for a certain song. i like you for certain thing. it's always, amen, you changed my life. and this is a grown man. this is a younger guy. you, know this is older women. they just come to me and say, i listen to you. and then he changed his life. and i want to thank you for that. and that's what i do. so, if that's what you call respect all take that. >> just thinking about, that what that must feel like. >> even if you're not a role model, when people are seeing

themselves you want the reflection to be accurate. >> i think you have to do the best you can, and do the things that make a better person. i'm big on that. i meditate, and anything i feel like is going to put me in the place where i could be the best version of myself and that's what i'm going to do. we all have. teams were gonna be myself. i'm still a solid individual. i'm not gonna walk outside, and not be me. but at the same time, i'm in a way better space than it was. and, i'm showing people that it's okay to evolve and it's okay to give yourself permission to evolve. >> tell me the title of the book. adversity of the cells. >> i, mean i feel like i've shown everything. so i've always been a hustler. and, why not say what made me great. i mean, i've been through a lot of obstacles. i came out on top. i kept my integrity. and i think that's what makes

me different. that's my art. that's what i saw. i still motivation. and, i felt why not adversity? because people see you, lose and then they see when. again but you remain the same. i didn't let that determine who had boston individual. >> i love it. i see, i tried. >> you have bars to. >> that's really the only bars that i have. actually done for the evening. jeezy, thank you, it was really a pleasure to get to know you through this book. really, really, very insightful. thank you so much. >> sure. >> we'll be right back.

how concerned for the british royal family after prince harry heading back to the uk to see his father. buckingham palace announcing king charles has cancer. the announcement coming after he had a prostate procedure just last month. a royal source telling cnn the king does not have prostate cancer, but the palace did not specify the type of cancer he does have. they say the king will step back from his public facing duties, but we'll keep carrying out his constitutional role. here with me with more, trisha got hurt host of the week with patricia got hurt. trisha, thank you so much for

being here today. we're hearing this news this morning, and today, after the recent news about the procedure that he had. harry is going to visit his father and we are all our very -- with that very strained relationship. what does it say about the seriousness, then, of the kings condition? >> well, for one thing, any parent who announces, or tells their families their children that they've got cancer, the kids are going to want to be by their parents aside. i think what will be telling is whether other members of the royal family are increasingly involved in carrying out appointments that the king would otherwise make. this has been a really tumultuous time for the royal family because, if you remember, the duchess of york had breast cancer. that turned out to be melanoma. then we have had princess kate in hospital for abdominal surgery. initially, william was going to step back. so he is more of a hands-on father, obviously, than his own

dad was. now it has been announced, just before we got this cancer diagnosis, talked about, and announced that prince william will be stepping in and actually doing more of the kings oral appointments. the palace has said that queen camilla will step up well the king under goes his treatment? trisha, what happens if the king is too ill to do his duties, even for a short amount of time? does somebody else step in fully? >> yes, he has, it can be prince william, it can be princess royal, princess anne. it can be camilla. they can all step in. still, they probably have already got pretty packed diaries, as it is. one wonders, wouldn't it be great if harry, while in the uk, could start doing some of those duties. i think, if he did, it would go an enormous way to sort of welcome him back into the royal family. >> the number of working

royals, as they say, a phrase that is used. the monarchy has dwindled in recent years, in, part because a prince harry and prince andrew are out of action. now the king will be sidelined, even temporarily. there is just quote attributed to the late queen elizabeth ii that the monarchy has to be quote, seen, to be believed. so you think about all that is going on right now. how does this impact how the public perceives them? they are not as visible. >> well, they are not as visible but i think they are probably become more relate bull, dare i say, through illness. you, know showing that they are mortal. so many people, there is a figure out that says one into people around the world will go through a cancer situation in their lives, never mind about the families around it. so, in many ways, i think looking at the media and looking at the comments online, people are shocked because there is this kind of view that the royal family is invincible,

immortal, and now it shows that they can get ill just like us. one of the reasons that king charles actually spoke about isn't large prostate, as a 75- year-old man, there are thousands and thousands of men who have similar situations. the websites online said there was a huge uptick in people seeking out signs and symptoms and early diagnosis and what have you. it is the sort of publicity, preventative health a that cancer organizations and charities can only dream of. i am not saying, i am saying that for the average person in the street, i actually think their hearts will warm towards the royal family. a lot of republicans have been saying online, well, i'm a republican and normally i wouldn't care. however, my uncle, aunt, somebody in my family went through a cancer diagnosis and, you know what? my heart is there for them. >> that is really important. to use the platform for this

really extraordinary means and reason, you cannot escape that. we do need to raise awareness for all cause for any reason. really quickly, felicia, you mentioned kate. do you know anything about the abdominal surgery or the why? we have reporting as to the source of the surgery and the white, right? is that on? >> well, i can kind of understand. it it is difficult from a 75- year-old man with growing up children, to a woman in her early 40s with very young children. we don't know what the issue is around it. nor should we have to. i think we've forgotten that the royals -- this is something i'm always going on about with the falling out between harry and william, and what have you. it is a royal family. and it doesn't matter how many bits of gold and jewelry you have on your head, you are a family. when you have health concerns i think there is a grieving for what could have been, how you

would have been, what you normally would have been doing. and it takes different people different amounts of time to be able to face that themselves, to tell their families, to deal with it, to deal with variants children and explain it to them. then, if at all, to feel comfortable enough to come out and say this is what i'm going through. so, i mean, we cannot hurry, nor should we wish to hurry a very real, a very even process. >> as a mother i value my privacy and the conversations i would have with my children. so i totally understand that desire to do so, even if one has a title, of sorts. trisha goddard, thank you so much. we will be right back.

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