went through my ivf journey? that, something like that could have possibly happened. i thought that there was already legislation in place to have my story all over national while television is kind of terrible, however knowing that it's actually doing something, it's actually making meaning and we're actually using it push the legislation has been huge >> even if this proposed legislation eventually becomes law, victoria knows that this may not affect dr. caldwell because he is quite elderly and he is ill. she's doing this for other people, erin. and as far as dr. caldwell, while we did go visit him there's connecticut home. he did not want to talk and his attorney had no comment >> aaron young. thank you so much. it would be incredible though. gosh, if you could prevent those things from happening again, that would be doing good in the world. all right, killing. thank you so much and thanks so much to all of you as always for being with us ac360 begins now good

evening thanks. >> for joining us tonight. special coverage bridge of the trump trials, the high drama in deep significance in two of them today. and what are expected to be potentially enormous financial consequences tomorrow. in a third, also late today, the former president is final pitch. the supreme court of why he should be criminally immune for actions he took an office. so there's a lot to get you in this next hour in atlanta today, the drama revolves around fulton county district attorney fani willis, and whether she and her department should be removed from the georgia rico case against the former president and others at issue, her relationship with lead prosecutor nathan wade, the timing of it, and whether that and how they paid for trips they took together, created conflicts of interest he testified today. so did fani willis. she'll be back on the stand tomorrow. today. she repeatedly clashed with ashleigh merchant, who's the attorney for the co-defendant, michael roman so let's be clear

because you've lied in this table which one you learning right here. thank you. live right here. >> no, no, no. this is a trial judge that earned her and the other attorney a song and management from the judge. and while more on that case in a moment here in manhattan. meantime, both drama and history, a judge setting a march 25 day for what will be e the first terminal trump criminal case to get to trial. the first and arguably thinness really of four cases against the former president now this case is new york's 34 count indictment of the former president over his alleged 2016 hush money payment to porn star stormy daniels >> something that virtually every legal scholar says they don't understand that there's no correct, even if he was guilty himself i mean, there's no crime >> others disagreed. the he he's referring to there is, of course himself more in that trial shortly, also, as we mentioned, and what happens tomorrow if as expected, the

judge, arthur engoron imposes what could be hundreds of millions of dollars in penalties in new york civil fraud trial first, we begin with the georgia case and cnn's tom foreman on today's dramatic testimony >> i might tell us stunning and fiery day in court as fulton county district attorney, fani willis took the stand to defend herself and her case. >> you'll confuse you think i'm on trial. these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2021. >> explosive exchange after another, she explained her romantic relationship with the prosecutor. she hired to lead the election fraud case, and she tore into the legal team around former president trump and his allies kiley offensively, someone lies on you and it's highly offensive when they touch implicate that you slept with somebody the first day you met with them. and i take exception to at issue in the hearing were two key questions. first, when did her romantic relationship with special prosecutors, nathan

wade begin? >> let's be clear. >> 2022 >> was the start of any intimate sexual relationship with the district attorney >> while way testified that the romance started when the investigation of trump and his co-defendants was well underway a onetime mutual friend, robin, you dirty insisted it started way back in 2019. >> did you observe them few things that are common among people having a romantic relationship? >> yes. >> such a can you give us an example >> hugging, qizan, >> this infection will take at that time she and wade were friends, nothing more and asked for that contrary testimony. >> i have not spoken to robin in over a year here. i certainly do not consider her a friend now, this second key

question did the district attorney financially benefit by choosing her romantic partner to lead the election fraud case. team. trump came in saying wade use money from that appointment to take willis on trips to california >> aruba believes the bahamas and more, but hold on. weighed said willis paid him back in cash for all that travel. >> what alleges that our travel was split roughly evenly align. >> he held even as team trump drilled in, i'm sure you probably have the deposit slips where you took the cash in deposit the cash into your account, don't you? i did not deposit the calcium. i can't. >> you don't have a single solitary deposit slip? to corroborate or support any of your allegations that you were paid by mrs. willis and cash. >> do you >> no, sir. >> not a single solitary one. not a one. >> and we'll us was right there with him dismissing the claims

of financial shenanigans mean i paid for the hotel, i paid for the flights i had a birthday lunch and for him i paid for massages. i paid for everything. >> and as for always repaying in cash, i have money in my house. >> you have money in your house. so it was just money that was there when you meet my father. he's going to tell you as a woman, you should always have, which i don't have. so let's don't tell him that should have at least six in cash at your house at all, time. >> you're also about it down questions about sensitive personal matter. the characterization, emasculating black man, but i'm i'm just telling you i'm sorry. >> what? >> i'm not going to e mask you late >> a black man. >> did you understand that and slapped away so much of what team trump said >> no, no, no, no. this is a true judge and a lot so cnn's tom foreman reporting perspective. now starting with cnn chief legal analyst laura coats, anchor of laura coates live here at 11. she's outside the courthouse in atlanta.

incredible on the stand. but first, what's your sense of just how this hearing went? >> i could not believe that the da took the stand. i think it was expected that perhaps you might be able to avoid this the judging to be leaning at this after nathan aid testified, but she was she explosive out of the game raw with emotion. obviously intense, but also very persuasive and that she was trying to clarify the nature of her relationship, talking about why and how she'd repay different things really had a take no and suffer no fools attitude towards the attorneys that she viewed as trying to fatally undermine her the judge at times seemed very flabbergasted by the pacing of the questions from earlier testimony. but ultimately, their responsibility and bringing this motion west to draw a through line between the finances and financial benefit for fani willis. that was an uphill battle to begin with, even when you consider in they only had one witness testifying

about a relationship that predated at the time in which fani willis and nathan wade admitted to having one without that through line. you don't have the conflict of interest that would rise to level a disqualification because entering you said that requires the person to have such a conflict of interests as to undermine fatally the opportunity for any defendant to have a fair trial that has yet to be matt, but tomorrow is another day, >> right? she's back on the stand tomorrow. it does seem interesting. i mean, as you said, they only had the one witness and her credibility is in question that you didn't have really any details about when exactly when she believes the relationship started. and she also left the office where she was working. the da's office under a cloud oh, she was clearly a disgruntled employee. >> but i can >> tell you i was screaming at the screen wondering where the follow-up questions we're going to come from. it's not enough

to simply say, do you have any doubts? they had a romantic relationship at that time and heard us say i have no doubts. it begs further questions why don't you have a doubt you witnessed them hugging and qizan, where was it? in an office, in a home. who else was there was on the cheek was on the lips. had you heard stories, had you seen text messages? what do you note is substantiate what you are presenting the poured he didn't have those follow-up questions. it begs the question as to why they didn't ask it wasn't one question too many. was the old rule of you don't ask me question. the only the answer to but it does require you to have more especially since it isn't isolation and currently uncorroborated. that is the kiss of death for many litigation can i may emotions you've got to have somebody who is an unbiased, credible witness that will come across to the judge in this case and not have the ax to grind now it could vary well be true. she is telling the truth, but corroboration is really what you want to have when you have a witness that has a potential

cloud, as you say, over her departure from the office or code stay with us. i want to bring in criminal defense attorney caroline polici also to former federal prosecutor, jessica roth and jeffrey toobin, and gwen keyes former district attorney for the stone mountain judicial circuit into cobb county, georgia caroline, let me start off with you. your defense attorney. what did you think of the defense here? yeah. look, obviously he today was salacious. it was tawdry. it's an by the way, this is crazy. this is a trial about donald trump. correct. >> but now we're talking about the da correct? >> it is an unfortunate byproduct of legitimate legal questions at the heart of this. and it is true this has nothing to do with the marriage it's of the case, nothing to do with donald trump, nothing to do with whether or not he should continue to be prosecuted really. there are two distinct issues here that i solve as evidenced by the questions 1.2 that you did in the lead in package and they're distinct. it's ethical issues. and then

the law of recusal and disqualification of an attorney. and they kind of blend it together for me today. i don't think they made that evidentiary hurdle of having the da be disqualified because i don't think they showed an actual conflict of interest in the finances of this. however, i do think there's a real question that fani willis and nathan wade potentially lied in a court affidavit in willis's about when the relationships out when it started. >> and this is a classic case of the cover-up is worse. >> the only person making that allegation is this one we're just going to ask your question. >> so what so what if they had this relationship? >> so the question is, did they lie? >> but i agree with what if they had it exactly? >> why why does it does this prejudice donald trump or any of these defendants at all? i mean, that's the thing that's so baffling about all this. suppose they have this relationship, suppose they lied. why does that disqualify them in this in this proceeding >> yes, maybe an attorney line

to the it's a reason for that she should be voted out of office that's a legitimate. >> but >> but there is no prejudice against donald. but just the details. jessica did did the defense they didn't really even question fani willis about when the relationship began or i mean, they didn't get any actual timeline here or really any pursue any kind of lines of questioning. >> he did say where the relationship began and it was consistent with what nathan wade has said, which was it was in 2022. so after he had been appointed and it continued through 2023, they both said it ended roughly the same period of time which would suggest if you believe both of them that when she appointed him to this role of special prosecutor, they were not involved in a romantic relationship. the only evidence that was proffered to the contrary, it was the testimony of that one witness who is her former friend, who said in a very sort of non-spam pacific way that she believed that they had been having a romantic relationship way back before the 20 2020 to date. i

did not find that witness credible. she was not specific she clearly seemed to have an ax to grind with fani willis. so when you put the sworn testimony of these two attorneys against the testimony of that one witness. >> i >> thought that the defense who has the burden here did not carry their burden based on what we've seen thus far, but they certainly carried their burden of embarrassing the hell out of the prosecutor in this case. and that's why donald trump was the big winner in atlanta today i mean, and that's why this i don't think this proceeding ever should have been held. i don't think this this is a relevant issue, but the fact that this judge who seemed to be a bump on the log not letting all this nonsense go on for hours and hours. the only person who really benefited here was donald trump and the other defendant, glenn. >> i want to play a bit more the da's testimony today and then ask you about it. >> he called his troutville

agent. he calls his crews agent. they do it and then he tells me how much it is. and i give them the money back. >> i know he initially paid for it did you pay him back for the crews and for aruba? yeah. gave him his money before we ever went on that trip. you gave him >> cash before you ever won on the trip. >> the money that you paid? mr. wade, the cash in october of 2022? we do not know where that money came from. >> i do know where it came from. it came from my sweat and tears >> i'm wondering what you thought of her on the stand and the job the defense didn't well, again, i have to agree with all of your other guests that many of us wish we were not having to talk about this. there is a real question for a jury at some point in time about the underlying charges. and yet, we have not spoken about the sufficiency of those charges in weeks as we deal with this so but even that all being said, i think da willis did what she had to do today. what you saw in her was a

fight. does she's trying to defend herself and her reputation against these types of allegations, but that's the same type of flight and tenacity that she brings to her pursuit of justice on behalf of her constituents. so i'm not at all surprised at the tone that she took, how clear she was and how unwavering she was in being very clear that she did not accept or she did pay back all of the money that was given. so again, what many hope is that we can get back to the issue of what is the evidence that establishes the underlying charges within this rico indictment. and as long as we are not talking about that, i think again, this is just a delay tactic and unfortunately one that's creating a very large distraction. >> do you think the granular details were necessary from a legal standpoint? >> well, i think they certainly help because again, it goes to the issue of credibility and

i'll agree with the other guests in terms of i do not believe or there's many that do not believe that the defense has met its obligation here. they have to prove that there is an actual conflict, not just they speculative one there, lead witness or the witness they desire to call first failed on being able to establish that case for them. they had to go to a backup witness who again, in my viewing of the hearing, did not provide sufficient detail may have an interest or again, is as been labeled as a disgruntled employee and all of that goes to credibility. so when you look at those weakened incredible points with the level of detail that was provided, the surety of the da and providing that level of detail again, i think if you were looking at credibility, i don't see where the defense has met their burden, nor do i see where the judge could disqualify her. >> lauren, do you agree with that that i mean, do you see a

case for disqualifying her at this point? again, she's taking the stand again tomorrow i don't think i have not seen the evidence that would rise the level again, this qualification requirement is that it would go to the heart of the ability of the defendants to get a fair trial. we have not addressed the underlying facts. that is part of the reason why ultimately, so far, this is qualification effort is likely to fail they have not gotten to the heart of why this would prejudice or undermine the defensibility to have a fair trial. but if if anderson they are disqualified, i do mean day it's not just finding willis. it's her entire office. it would mean that you have a prosecuting counsel in georgia, but then has to choose to either a point and assign or get somebody else to now be the prosecutor that successive team doesn't have to actually follow the recommendations of the indictment. they could add defendants, they can take away to that. they could it's actually dismissed the case and they could try to go to a private practice litigate air that is a hard battle as well.

he's talking about a very nominal fee compared to what the stakes are. so cute purity issues, political implications. there is a huge spotlight over this case. if jr disqualified, this could be slow rolled in a way that we would not have a trial before the actual election in november. and dare i say not for the many months to come. and so a lot is riding on this. this judge is well aware if you were disqualified, fani willis, the whole office becomes disqualified as well? >> i want to play some more of what willis said on the stand >> as he ever visited you at the place, relayed your head. so let's be >> clear because you've lied in its this. let me tell you which one you lied and right here thank you. live right here? >> no, no, no. this isn't true, judge. and if he has a lot >> how do you think that >> i think it was i think she was a good witness. i mean, i think if for the purposes that she was on the stand for xi, actually, i thought demolished

the case against her, you know, some people will simply not believe that some people don't have that much cash around, but some people do. and other than that, i think she she's a good witness. the problem is that if you ask people in atlanta who are the jury pool here about fani willis, they are going to know about this a hell of a lot more than they are going to know about the details of the case. and that's a win for the defense, even if, as i expect, they will allow her didn't get it affects the jury potentially it might be, but in essence politically, she may have felt that she needed to show her outrage. i mean, i think that was genuine outrage, but i think politically she was defending her integrity in terms of how it plays with the judge who was ultimately the one is making the decision on this narrow issue of disqualification. i'm not sure how it let me he seemed like he was actually getting a little bit impatient with her at times, i believe he called a recess shortly after that clip you played where he basically thinks we're just getting a little too hot. and he said we're gonna take a recess and he reminded everybody that they are professionals, right. including the witness and the lawyers, their lawyers, and that they should treat one

another essentially as professionals and not step on one another's speech so i think that there were times where the judge was losing patience with how long her answers were going on and how non-responsive they were. so in terms of his decision here, i'm not sure ultimately if it was to her benefit, caroline polici. thank you. glenn keys as well. thanks. laura coats will see you at 11:00 on cnn. jessica mr. granted, jeff toobin as well. we'll talk about the former president's day in court here in new york. or judge set the date for what will be the first criminal trial ever faced by a former commander in chief, plus the latest on the shootings at the super bowl celebration in kansas city. and my conversation with the brother of lisa lopez-galvan, was killed there yesterday

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campaigning, i'm stuck here in this case related to a hush money repayment scheme involving porn star stormy daniels and former trump fixer, michael cohen will begin on march 20. >> there is no cases. >> it's a historic first a former president facing a jury and on trial in the middle of a presidential campaign. >> how can you run for election? we sitting in that courthouse in manhattan all day long. >> the judge in this case, juan marchan, made the decision after consulting with judge tanya chutkin, who is overseeing the election subversion case in washington, dc, during a pretrial hearing in new york, trump attorney todd blanche seized on that unprecedented timing, protesting think for delay. we strenuously object to what is happening in this courtroom. he told the judge what's trump's eyes locked on his attorney. the fact that president trump is going to now spend the next two months working on this trial instead of out in the campaign trail running for president is something that should not happen in this country. judge marshawn asked,

what's your legal argument? that's my legal argument. blanche said that's not a legal argument. marchawn replied, telling the lawyers he'd see them on march 25th, we'll just have to figure it out i'll be here during the day and i'll be campaigning during the night >> this case stems from actions that took place in the days before the 26 16 election when donald trump's former national inquirer publisher, david and michael cohen allegedly scheme to keep stormy daniels from going public about enough air. according to the indictment, cohen paid $130,000 in hush money to stormy daniels than submitted shan legal bills to the trump organization, which the former president they didn't reimburse with a series of monthly checks. >> i did it at the direction of in concert with and for the benefit of donald j. trump. >> today, the parties debated questions to ask perspective jurors in 18 person jury will ultimately be seated. trump's lawyers wanted to delve into politics, telling the judge they need to know if people like charles judge marshawn

called it inappropriate, saying they need fair and impartial jurors. >> honor, to sit here day after day after day on something that everybody says the greatest legal scholars it's not even a crime that was cnn's kara scannell, who's with us here joining us as well, former trump white house communications director anthony scaramucci, jeff toobin, and jessica remain with us. carolyn start out with you. what stood out to you? what else stood out in the courtroom? >> so we saw trump in the e jean carroll trial where he was outspoken, he was disruptive to the courtroom. today. he was quiet. he was leaning back in his chair for most of the time and really paying attention to the attorneys who were speaking. what i also thought was interesting we talked a lot about how the attorneys performed for an audience of one, and i have seen in the cases because i've been covering that the lawyers do tend to enhance their dramatic speaking before the judge when trump is in the room and after todd blanche had made his pitch to try to push back the trial

date and loss and they moved on to talk about jury selection and to talk about the trial schedule. the judge said, is there anything else you want to bring up? and at that point, blanche looked over but trump who nodded at him, and then blanche began saying he objects to everything that's happening in this courtroom. trump shouldn't be here. this shouldn't happen in america. and then when trump is leaving the courtroom, someone in the back row started clapping and the court officers are said, quite in the courtroom, but that is the first time i've seen someone publicly react in the courtroom to him in a way that was really audible >> do you think this he's saying this hurts him on the campaign trail. he has been able to make any court appearance into a campaign appearance it really does hurt him, no, because it's killing him with the donors the rnc, it's killing him with the large donor community because he also raising office was small. does he is but the incremental fundraising he's now turning those lemon rhines into lemonada. it's very hard. anderson and so he knows that a path to the presidency requires

way more money than he's currently raising. and so this does not help them at all. moreover, he'll be in that courtroom for two months. he makes no fund raising calls. have you talked to any of the big donor? and any of the big donors had talked to ronna romney mcdaniel. they don't want to give her any money. >> and so this is a disaster for the guy. okay. now, he's been lucky. he's got the distraction going on in georgia. but michael cohen has been fairly thorough with the prosecution about exactly what happened. and let's not anybody forget michael cohen served jail time for what happened like one big this is a big case and it's a big deal for donald trump as a witness though michael cohen has a lot of problems that have a lot of problems and the prosecution, if they're smart, is going to front all those problems on their direct examination of him. so it doesn't look like they're hiding anything from the jury and leaving it for cross-examination, and they're going to have to corroborate every that he says that's material. they're going to point to the dr. showing the reimbursements and they're

going to need other witnesses may be david, who's going to be able to corroborate the purpose of those payments, corroboration is going to be absolutely critical here. >> you know, i was in the courtroom to and i was struck by how she shabby it is and how there was a bulletin board right next to where trump is and there's a little piece toward piece of paper that says, you know, what to do if there's a mass shooting incident. i mean, that's that's the kind of courtroom this is exposed wires everywhere. i mean, this is a rough and tumble new york courtroom and he's going to trial. and, you know, that's not good for him they're going to be witnesses that he's not going to be able to grandstand. he's not going to be able to try this case in the hallway like today. you know, it's just going to be witnesses and it's not clear to me what his defenses other than oh, it's all a lot of nonsense. michael cohen is a liar. i mean, the documents are the documents and it's a tough case to defend, but there's the idea of the underlying crime here. i mean,

he keeps saying all legal scholars look at this and say they don't even know where the crime here is, that there's the question of the case of what actually is the it's not the hush money per say that there's an underlying it's how those docx as how those payments were handled in the underlying paperwork. and he made the exact argument that you're implying that there's no crime here to the judge and an opinion issued today, the judge said, yes, it is a crime if the prosecution can prove it, alvin bragg has actually brought up like three or four different options for what the crime it so it's primarily a legal argument that he made to the judge and lost today. but how this is not a crime, you can't essentially incorporate one of these theories into the crime of falsifying find business records and he lost on that. now he may prevail on that on appeal sunday. that's possible. but now, going forward, alvin brides going to have to persuade the jury that trump falsified these business records in order to conceal or further another crime. there are three crimes that the judge has said brad can pursue before the jury. one is violation of federal election law and others

violation of new york state election law. and the third is violation of new york tax law because of how these payments were made. >> 11 bragg was on radio recently, any sort of portraying this as an election interference gets the best framing of this case, i think in terms of the significance of it, this way, these repayments that were made during the 2016 election where trump allegedly were trying to cover up the affair was stormy daniels that she alleged because he thought that if the public knew about it, it would diminish his chances of succeeding as president. >> the theory makes all kinds of sense that bragg puts forward. it's not just during the election, the check to stormy daniels went on october 27th the week before the election. i mean, that's why he pays argument >> has been well, i didn't want my wife to find out about this and therefore this was made well in the indictment, there's an allegation that you can tell that they spoke to a number of people eyes campaign, and there is an allegation there that they were concerned about how this was playing with voters. and so that is how they're going to try to tie the two together to prove the case,

because bragg is trying to make this as the first election interference case in 2016 before the 2020. it would really hurt them >> you had the access hollywood tape on october 7, you had that check on october 27. if that came out the weekend prior to the campaign was already in trouble with melania. he is only offered like to apologize, i think one was to melania over the october 7 fiasco. and so mr. bragg has a real point here about election interference. >> that would you think that's a strong case? oh, i think it would occur planck tim, if that came out priority election and that was the threat. and that was the hush money payment. >> okay. that's the election interference at the professor's referencing were so in nerd to trump scandals you know paying $130,000 to a porn star actually was probably a pretty big deal in october of 2016. now, we've talked about it for so many years. it seems like background noise. >> it was it would've been a

very big what happens if he is found guilty of this >> as a first-time offender, he's he may not get jail time, but the judge will see what comes in of this case. i mean, part of the theories that this was a big catch and kill story, that this was what he was doing. it, not just stormy daniels, but also the karen mcdougal payments and others, but at the high-end of this range, he could get one and a to four years in prison it's going to be up to the judge to decide what he wants to do. >> it all boils down to the judge. all boils down to the judge could give them probation. can you see him actually, i don't i don't see him ever going to jail. i mean, listen, you know gerald ford pardoned richard nixon. there was a firestorm after it. we don't want to jail these political opponents are advocacy you think his convictional. if he was convicted in the case, do you think it hurts him politically? i do think it hurts him politically, even though people say this is like the least impressive than that.

>> and let's say it doesn't hurt him with a hard-core 20 20 to 25%. you got to get the independence and you need the money. anderson, you know this better than anybody the money is the lucre of these campaigns. he can't find the money. and it's drying up. and by the way, the money stole going to nikki haley. i mean, there's one fundraiser after the next here in new york or in silicon valley. >> and it has she doing with all that money? >> well, my only recommendation to hers you got to expand the more you got to think like an entrepreneur, you don't challenge trump. go, go find the nonvoters like barack obama did in 2008 and invite them into the party cuz you're not going to beat donald trump on his own home turf, expand the party. i think that's some escape mistake that the adversaries of donald trump are making on the republican side. >> everyone, thanks, appreciate it. good to have you here more on the trump trial shortly. first one we have more breaking news a significant blow to the house. republican biden impeachment probe, special counsel investigating hunter biden tonight, charging a former fbi informant with making up claims about the

president and hunter biden's involvement with ukrainian company burisma. here with details, cnn's evan perez so how central evan was this testimony of this witness to the house republicans case against biden and hunter biden anderson. >> he is a very central to at least the claim that joe biden was benefiting from his son's business it business dealings in ukraine. this informants name is alexander smirnoff. he was arrested today and what's important here is that he was the one who told the fbi that in a memo that the republicans fought to make public that the there was a an executive and burisma, the ukrainian and energy company where hunter biden was serving as a board member, that that person had said that they were paying joe biden and hunter biden $5 million apiece in order for for for favors for the business interests of burisma in the

united states, what the fbi says is that it's completely false. i'll read you just a part of what they say in the court filing. it says, in short, the defendant trans transformed his routine and uninsured unary business contacts with boris mind in 2017. and later into bribery allegations against public official one who is joe biden? we've reported the presumptive nominee of one of the the two major political parties for president. after expressing his bias against public official one and his candidacy this is important because as i pointed out, anderson if for republicans, this was a big part of their claim that joe biden was corrupt and that his he was benefiting from his family's corruption. and why they've launched this impeachment inquiry. >> has there been any reaction from house republicans >> will now not surprisingly, they are dismissing the importance of well smirnoff in their in their inquiry. and they say that there's a

mountain of evidence, james comer told or annie grayer that there's a mountain of evidence that they've collected hey, that they've amassed as part of this investigation. and so they say that this these documents that the smirnoff is alleged to have falsified on not that important to their inquiry. >> all right. evan perez, thanks. coming up back to the form of presence. many trials today while taking questions from reporters at his manhattan hush money trial and hearing, he did not respond to whether he would be back here in new york tomorrow for the expected verdict in his civil fraud trial, one that could cost him hundreds of millions of dollars. have a preview of that next >> we're here to get your side of the story. >> this guy who was a crusader against human sex trafficking is actually a customer i'm one, of the white house blow the cover of a cia operative. this is a filing date >> staff said he was hiking the appalachian trail when did you realize you might actually we going to prison from the beginning >> you can't write this stuff.

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family. that with us former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin, what do you took the damages to actually be tomorrow? >> probably around with what the a prosecution has asked for. i mean, this is a case that the prosecution has one at every step of the process and if it's not $370 million, maybe it's $300 and obviously this will be appealed to but as in the e jean carroll case, he is going to be in a position of having to post bonds or post the amount of money that is charged against him for in order to appeal. and it's not at all clear that we he's got to get that money to just to post it in order to have an appeal, correct. or pay a bonding company if you can find one a portion of that, but then you'd have to pay interest on that, which of course he doesn't want to do david, i mean, you were skeptical a few weeks ago that the foreign president has enough cash to pay the $83 million e jean carroll verdict. what do you expect him to do tomorrow he

gets hit with a few hundred million dollars, more penalties well, i think he and his lawyers will scream and yell that this is all unfair and it's rigged, which is of no legal consequence. and then he's going to have to make some very hard decisions. i will be very surprised if in about three weeks he's able to come up with the money to appeal the eeg in curl case. and if he camp that, of course should get people to understand that his money is all smoke and mirrors and in this case is jeffrey pointed out $370 million or perhaps a bond of around 80 million. but who is going to loan donald the rest of that money? so this is going to be very doesn't have assets for, doesn't agent moment. he does have properties. >> he does though we don't know if they're unrecorded loans. that's how we bought mar-a-lago chase bank in writing and a letter i have promised to never record the mortgage john, that property.

and i think there may be other obligations that haven't come to light, but he may be able to persuade the court to let him put up properties as security rather than cash in a deposition in this case, he said he had $400 million of liquid assets that strikes me and david knows far better than i as it's extremely unlikely that he has that that might that much in liquid assets. >> and >> that you can't fake money at this point, you have to put up actual cash and it's not at all clear that he can do that david, do you agree with that >> oh, absolutely i never thought donald had 400 million maybe if he was counting the money, donors have been giving and part of which he's been diverting to his legal fees, which by the way, should be treated by the irs as taxable income to him we'll see if anything has ever done about that down the road.

>> jeff, i mean, there's also the trump organization and its assets. can you use that? >> and it's also the management of the trump organization. i mean, one of the remedies that the attorney general, the state attorney general, is asking for here is to take control basically remove control from an end at the moment, a former judge barbara jones is essentially running the trump organization. but one of the remedies here maybe to make that make that kind of thing permanent, which renders, which creates the possibility that donald trump may be living in trump tower, but he may not manage it anymore. >> i mean, >> so i mean, there's a real change in the whole business structure as well as just money out of his pocket that could be the result here. >> david, does this affect his two sons, eric and donny junior? don't they? i mean, they work for the organization. does this impact them? i mean, are they financially liable here as well >> they are. they're actually

seven charges and only one persistent fraud has been settled, and i expect the judge is going to find against the trump's for all of them and if the judge is concerned at all about trump absconding with money or not falling. the court orders. i think he'll reinstate his order from months ago, revoking all of trump's business licenses. we call them business certificates in new york and if that happens, trump cannot do business in new york he will have to one way or another dispose of those properties. and the trump organization is a new york corporation. a corporation is a privilege granted by the state, which can be revoked if you don't play by the rules. >> so if he didn't have businesses licenses in new york, he would have to sell everything. he has a new york >> we'd have to transfer it. i don't think it's clear exactly how the process would work certainly not clear to me, but essentially, yes, you have to eliminate his business activity so you could still on his apartment in trump tower. but

the retail space and the office space that he owns a handful of apartments in the building. he still owns. those would all come into this as would as other properties, his golf course and westchester county in new jersey has golf course. there is california's golf course. all of these are underneath a new york corporation of the trump organization, which is a corporation. >> and the way the lawsuit is structured, the sun's couldn't run it either >> jeff toobin. thank you so much. okay. johnson. appreciate it coming up as kansas city still reels from yesterday's deadly shooting bowl rally will take you live to a candlelight vigil and bringing the latest in the investigation and once you know about the woman who was killed yesterday, i'll speak to her brother, lisa lopez-galvan, was her name is her name. she was killed while celebrating her beloved kansas city chiefs. that's next we headliner las vegas. that's what i'm want to do.

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to honor her memory, but first month procupecz with the latest on the investigation gunfire police say it was a personal dispute at the end of a rally celebrating the kansas >> city chiefs super bowl win leaving one woman dead and over 20 injured victims age range between eight years old and 47 years old at least half of our victims are under the age of 162. >> juveniles are now in custody for the shooting. >> gangs the relationship between the subjects involved. way, that's still under investigation >> several guns were recovered according to police, have enough evidence at this point. >> so some of those questions i'm not able to give a direct answer just because i want to protect the integrity of this investigation. seems >> like we aren't so many hours from announcement >> we have subjects said are

detained, at least one person was tackled by bystanders, trey filter said he helped knocked down one man and hold him until police arrived. we were >> pretty awaited once we know we had and they started yelling. there's a gun case. he filter said she grabbed the gun at first, actually, that it was it looked like a toy, but then once i picked it up i quickly realized it definitely was not nearly 24 hours after the parade ended. crews are out here cleaning up. and what they're finding are many of the personal items that people left behind as they were running for their lives. you could see some of them here blankets and chairs with strollers, little strollers here for babies >> the aftermath of >> thousands of parade goers rushing for cover as hundreds of officers on scene ran toward the shots. >> all of a sudden through the partitions, a wave of people come rushing through screaming gun ron, and i was watching people being trampled. >> one family said several of them were hit.

>> my son got shot in, my wife got shot, she got shot and recast. i got shot directly in the ncl. >> lisa lopez-galvan died at the scene. she was a local kansas city area radio dj. this city now grieving after a day of celebration, kansas city chiefs offensive lineman trey smith said he and his fellow players have to take cover and help young fans stay calm amid the shooting. >> some pretty angry. >> too, the senseless violence, you know, someone lost her life today. you have children are injured. children are traumatized shimon more. >> do we know about the investigation when when there'll be charges >> that's the big question right now. and this and because police are just not releasing much information, we tried to get answers from them earlier today. they wouldn't talk about the individuals that they have in custody, just simply saying that they're juveniles. so that could be what's causing some of the delays, but it's been over 24 hours. these two individuals have been in their custody and we have yet to know

if they're going to be charged. urged, or if there are any charges. so that's the big question right now. and also, what was this dispute about earlier as you saw, i asked whether or not this was some kind of gang activity they will refuse to answer that question. so there's still obviously a lot of questions that i think the police need to answer or anderson shmona, appreciate it. thank you. yesterday, we we knew one person had been killed phil, about the celebration. we didn't know her identity, but tonight we do. and her family wants you to know her name. and who she was in life, not just in death. her name was lisa lopez-galvan, a mother radio dj in part of a very close-knit family who loved her deeply her brother beto lopez joins me now. beto, thank you so much for joining us. i am so sorry for your loss and this must i can't imagine how surreal this must seem >> yes, absolutely >> you know, there's

>> still, our families still pretty much in a state of shock. >> and >> we're pretty close knit family, so that's helping us get through this period i know lisa's husband children were with her at the rally. lisa son was also shot. how is he doing? how are the other family members doing? >> yeah. we're happy to report that my nephew, izzat, the hospital and he's in recovery and, you know, aside from a broken heart on hurtful heart with the loss of his mother and my sister you know, he's he's coming along. okay >> my you had as many as 20 family members at the rally, right >> we did. we had quite a group there actually had more people and other disperse and other parts of the area, but yeah, just a big celebration. we wanted to celebrate with our home team. >> at least it was a big, big chiefs fan. i understand >> yeah. without a doubt, she she was a big local sports fan

in general, but i think i think there's no one louder and my family that she was as a chiefs fan >> tell us about lisa. i mean, she just sounds like such an extraordinary person, so outgoing, clearly loved music. i mean, she was a dj for kkfi radio. i know she dj aid as well at events and functions lisa absolutely was an amazing woman great mother, great sister, great friend yes. she just loved having fun. and helping others. and, you know, the things that she did in this community are going to be felt and badly people are gonna be hurting for awhile with with her loss >> growing up was music something she was always passionate about? >> yeah. yeah, it's kind of a funny story. we have three generations of very decorated musicians in our family. >> wow, >> and my siblings and i broke

that trend. but she took up being a dj. i guess you count that as a musician and as he did a really good job with that great job >> what else do you want people to to know about her and remember about her >> yeah, absolutely. you know, you have tragic situations like this one that occurred, unfortunately, way too often in a lot of times individuals get lost as just statistics are numbers. my sister was a real person who was a very loving, caring, and devoted mother. like i said earlier, and community leader she did a lot for this community and the kansas city area, raising money for a lot of terror, charitable events and organizations and something will be very proud of forever. >> but again, i'm so sorry for your loss and your family's loss and i hope you can spend time with family and have time to to get through this

together. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, anderson, for the opportunity for us to share a little bit about the life of my sister that was very impactful in this community. and we want as many people across the country to know about her better. thank you thank you >> the news continues the source with kaitlan collins starts now, i'll see you tomorrow good evening. >> i'm kaitlan collins on what has been one of the most dramatic days in the long running legal saga of donald trump. but i don't say that lightly tonight. he and we learn today that the former president of the united states will face his first criminal trial on march 25th. >> all in one >> courtroom will be defendant donald trump, adult film star stormy daniels and hush money payer, michael cohen we're