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more imposed today in new york's now successful civil fraud case against him. and his two adult sons on top of the $83 he has to pay for defaming e. jean carroll, the woman he a federal jury said he sexually abused so in the span of 22 days, the former president is now on the hook for about half $1 billion in today's ruling, the judge credited former trump lawyer and fixer michael cohen for testifying truthfully in a trial whose genesis dates back to cohen's appearance before congressional hearing for years ago to your knowledge, did the president or his company ever inflate assets or revenues >> yes. >> and was that done with the president's knowledge or direction? >> everything was done with the knowledge. and at the direction of mr. trump >> mr. trump weighed in on the ruling tonight from mar-a-lago, confirming the judge's assessment about lacking remorse there was no fraud.

>> the bag's all got their money 100%. they love trump, they testified that trump is great, great. customer. one of our best customers. they testified beautifully and the judge knows that he's just a corrupt person. and we knew that from the beginning >> that's the former president in the united states to tonight, more on how we got here from cnn's kara scannell, who joins us now, this began last october. keys remind people what happened inside and outside the courtroom since then? >> yeah. it was an 11 week trial. it had everything from the most mundane testimony about accounting rules to the former president appearing ten times even though he was not required to. he also testified, as to his three adult children, don junior, eric, and ivanka trump. and while he was on the stand, he even almost got thrown off the stand for campaigning and on the final day of the trial, trump made one last ditch effort to try to convince the judge to find his way and that clearly carried no wait a devastating blow to

trump's reputation as a successful businessman after a new york supreme court judge ordered him and he company to pay nearly 355 barring him from serving as a company director in the city where he made his billions, where his name is plastered on skyscrapers for three years, donald trump may have authored the author of the deal but he perfected the audit is still this long running fraud was intentional >> agreed. jus illegal. >> friday's ruling follows the nearly three-month long trial filled with dramatic moments trump himself often chose to attend court, though he was only required to be there when he testified >> just try was you wrote it that fasttrack this trial could have been brought years ago, but they waited until i was right in the middle of campaign. >> he frequently attacked judge in goran as well as his clerk. and then new york attorney general in the hallways of the courthouse. and on truth, social is this, judge is very

partisan, judge with a person who's very partisan sitting alongside. >> well, >> wasting our time of this trial the democrat judge from the club houses, it's a disgrace we're going to be here for months with a judge that already made up his mind. we have a rogue judge who rules that properties are worth a tiny fraction, 1100 a tiny fraction of what they really are. a trump hater the only one that hates trump flores is associate up there. >> his attacks even resulted in the judge issuing a gag order restricting him from going after the court staff, which trump then violated twice and was fined a total of $15,000. >> my thought they were going to go somewhere, but i think they understand that they have nothing as it relates to a case other than, i guess an overzealous attorney general who would destroy all of new york business by going after transactions where there are no victims i guess other than herself, the former president and his adult sons all testified during the trial,

which began in october last year. during his testimony, donald trump frequently clashed with judging gotten in the courtroom. the judge warning trump's lawyer, chris kise, to control your client and threatened to remove him. >> thank you very much >> outside mar-a-lago, friday after the ruling, donald trump continued those attacks. >> these are radical left democrats. they're lunatics. and it's election interfering. so i just want to thank you for being here. we'll appeal will be successful, i think because frankly, were not successful new york state has gone, people are moving out of new york state. and because of this yes, they're going to move out at a much faster rate. >> i want to bring in cnn, senior legal analyst elie honig, also former federal prosecutor author jeffrey toobin, also cnn's kaitlan collins, who anchors the source of the top of the next hour and carers is with us, so kara, just what is this ruling mean for donny junior and eric trump? >> i mean, the judge is banning them from serving as an officer or director of accompanying york state for two years. so that leaves this big question

of who is going to step in and run the trump organization. it's mostly managed day-to-day by eric trump. they don't even have a chief financial officers since allen weisselberg left. and remember, he pleaded guilty to 15 years of tax fraud and for 1 million he got fine for 1 million today to he was a co-defendant in this case. i reached out to my sources connected to trump and the trump organization. no one has gotten back since this judgment came out. so i think it is going to be a big question of who will take over at this point. it's not clear who that leader is inside the company. >> jeff, what stood out to from the ruling? >> well, i think if people need to know what this case was really about, i mean, you know what the president, former president said his what this defense was in this case, which was i borrowed money and i paid it back. >> so what's the problem? there's no harm. the problem is that because he lied about his assets. he got lower interest rates to have to pay it back. so he benefited to the tune of millions of dollars by lying to the banks and two other authorities about how

much money he had. he has never acknowledged that, but this damage award is because he got all this benefit millions of dollars lower interest rates because of of the lies that he told >> the chance of an appeal. is there one for him? well, he certainly will appeal. i think he has next to no chance of prevailing. i don't think i've ever asked to put up money. >> yeah. just to appeal yes. to put up a bond. usually the parties will agree on it, if not, the judge will set its usually some percentage and you can secure the bond with properties or that kind of thing is not going to have to bring a suitcase full of cash. but reading this opinion, this opinion was written by this judge. absolutely. with appeal in mind, it's meticulous. he goes through every property, every transaction, and he puts things in the appeal that he knows he cannot be reversed on, for example, assessing how credible a witnesses that i believe this witness or not, that is uniquely up to the trial judge. you can't be reversed on that. so downstroke certainly will appeal. i think he's got next to no chance of winning on it. >> and donald and michael

cohen, who this judge believed is the central witness in the criminal case against him, which is going to start on march 25th. oh, of course, it's no guarantee that the jury is going to believe him, but it is certainly a good sign for the prosecution that at least this judge, because there's a lot of concern about michael cohen's testimony and how credible he actually went. >> when you have a defense when you have a witness who's pleaded guilty to lying repeatedly, the way michael cohen has that is a problematic witness. but not that notwithstanding, the judge believed him and he's going to be the main witness in the stormy daniels case. >> kaitlan, you spoken to former person republican rival nikki haley. where does she she talking about this? >> she made a good point actually, when it comes to what is facing trump, it is a massive financial weight on him right now. especially with this because it's not just what we heard today, which also has its north of about $100 million of interest added on top of this, it's also the e jean carroll verdicts and all of the other civil cases that he's also still dealing with. in addition

to the legal fees he's paying for the criminal cases so we had nikki haley on we have our the show tonight and we asked her about her reaction to this and just the fact that he's going to have trouble paying for it. and this is what she said >> how damning do >> you believe this ruling is? >> my biggest issue is i don't want the rnc to become his legal defense fund. i don't want the rnc to become his piggy bank for his personal court cases. we've already seen him spend $50 million worth of campaign contributions towards his personal court cases. now we see him trying to get country for all of the rnc so that he can continue not to have to pay his own legal fees. the problem is that doesn't help us when any seats in the house in the senate or anything else, if the rnc is all focused on his legal fees, aren't sees practically broke now, as it is. and so this is a bigger issue for the republican in party >> two things from that, the rnc is practically broke right

now, but also the pack that donald trump has been using to transfer money to a leadership pac to pay money for his own legal bills. also doesn't have a lot of money left. i think they had $5 million left after they spent $50 million or so on legal fees just last year alone in the last half of law last year. and so i think there is a real question and the rnc did pay a lot of trump's legal fees before he was ready to get his daughter-in-law to head the rnc? >> yeah. and it's i mean, he doesn't get to install them there to be technically elected. he's also picked who he wants to run the rnc and be the new chairman after next saturday in south carolina. and so these are all trump loyalists that are going to be you're running the rnc. and so she does raise a good point there about the issues that's not supposed to be just a personal legal fund for the former president. but this is what republicans have agreed to do. time and time again. >> is it clear care how much cash she actually has on hand? >> so he testified in a deposition in this case about a year ago and he said they had excess of $400 in cash. >> now that morrissey true? well, right. that's the

question. is that it actually got to be true. is that a is that a valid number? we don't know that's the only thing we have to go on because it's a private company and so closely and there was no testimony really about that at this trial. but he has been trying to sell some of his properties, including seven springs here in new york, that was one of the properties that the judge found was inflated in value and there's been no buyer yet, so it's going to be interesting question. can he offload any businesses if he needs to or if he wants to in order to raise cash and also just say one thing is i was reading through this when the judge when he was meticulously going through everything donald trump isn't saying time and time again, mar-lago is worth north of $1 maybe 1,000,000,005. i believe he says the judge rightly rights here that it's not a private residence. the deed of mar-a-lago says it can't be a private residence. it's a club. and that even if it were it would be 400% north of the most valuable property, private property property in the united states, basically saying it's completely unrealistic. and he had this footnote. he said,

donald trump knows this because he signed the deed for mar-a-lago, just showing that every time trump comes out at mar a-lago and what he has said about this is completely wrong. >> what are the things that the foreign president was saying at mar-a-lago during his rant, was that they had this expert witness who's highly respected, i think from nyu stern school of business, who they paid. he didn't point this out, but he paid them an awful lot of money. yeah. >> that expert witness was a bit of a mess. i know kara recalls his testimony. he tried to explain, for example, the tripling of the size of the apartment and he was confronted on that and he said, well, that must have just it's been an error. i mean, first of all, that's not anything an expert witness would know. and the judge rejected his testimony, which is what judges do. they will juries if there's a jury, there was not in this case. but when the judge looked at this guy's testimony, he said, i think he's in the bag for them and i think his testimony makes no sense and is not credible. and to kaitlan's point, the difference in valuations here are not 20%, 30%, they are mind-boggling. i think seven springs is worth $10 something

in that range. and the trump people tried to claim it's worth 140 million. i don't even know what's 1,400% different. and that's why the judge came out with the ruling he did. >> and my favorite argument was about the square footage is that his lawyer said, well, the number of square feet is a matter of interpretation. square feet. there's not a matter of interpretation. it's a matter of like a ruler and it just underlines the absurdity of some of their everybody. >> thanks. next more on today's ruling or to the deal author tony schwartz joins us, the guy who actually wrote the book later, more breaking news reporting so here first on cnn, what sources are now telling us about a nuclear space weapon that russia is working on in the damage they say it could do sorry throat that you >> mucinex institutes. so it broke medicated drops uniquely formulated for rapid relief that lasts and lasts get

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the measure of his worth, the measure of his value. he has no, his own head. he knows own head. more money equals. i'm worth more and his core belief is, i'm nothing, i'm worth nothing so if you're empty inside and you're looking outside and money is your measure. he just lost 385 you count it all in. it's a half $1 billion. >> if you >> include e jean carroll. so his feeling, it's gotta be first and foremost today. humiliation stupa fixation because i think he he he could not have believed that he was going to their judgment would be this big against a >> man rage. because rage is his primary emotion. >> it is fascinating though, for guy who has been lying and telling stories so, for so long before paul oh, texts, i mean,

about his business acumen all of that to finally actually be in a court and have it called out and have a judge actually highlight. you said this was 3,000 square feet. it was 1,000 square feet. i mean to actually see it all in print is kinda it's done, it, it's stunning to us. i mean, look, that's his playbook forever. i mean, he was he was telling lies. he's been telling lies all his life. he's been a fraud all his life. it just became absolutely official today that he's fraud. >> you know, trump has >> two goals for his second term. if he gets it >> one >> is to end democracy. not so much that he has a philosophical feeling about democracy, but he wants to be the autocrat. he wants to be in charge. why? >> well, partly for dominance, but mostly because the real

number one desire he has is to be the richest man in the world. because then maybe, maybe all that knowing that's going on inside him might go away if he's number one truly he wants to be richer than putin. putin is probably the richest person in the world. now, >> putin, it's probably worth $1 how do i know? there's good speculation that putin has a lot. he would very much like to be richer than putin so he's going to hit, that's going to be the focus of his attention. and right now, he's being asked to anderson. he's being asked to pay an amount of money. he does not have the judge wrote of the trump organization, their complete lack of contrition and remorse borders on pathological that does not come as any surprise to you. >> well, it's a silly thing to say. it doesn't border on pathological. it's sociopathic. zero contrition for something you know, you did that is wrong. is the

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navalny's lawyers warned that the brutal conditions in solitary confinement, we're taking a toll on him still, he managed to communicate to his followers and loved ones through social media. >> on >> valentine's day this year, as he had done every year, he posted a message to his wife, yulia, baby. everything is it's like in a song with you between us, their cities, the takeoff lights of airfields, blue snow storms, and thousands of kilometers. but i feel that you are near every second and i love you more and more hours after the shocking news broke, yulia navalnaya address world leaders at the munich purity conference. >> yeah. >> i would like putin and all his staff, everybody around him. his government his friends, just cuz i want them to know that they will be punished for what they've done with our country, with my family and with my husband, they will be brought to justice and this day will come sooner. izium, you defiant and determined just as her husband

always was a staunch critic of >> putin for more than a decade, alexei navalny had dodge death before lapsing on a plane from siberia in august 2020 after being poisoned with a deadly nerve agent, novichok. the flight was diverted two days later, a comatose navalny was flown to berlin saved by a team of german doctors the cnn investigation with bellingcat found that a team of fsb operatives had been following navalny on trips across the country for years before poisoning him we located one of the men accused of the poisoning and tracked him down to his apartment in moscow. when used with clarissa ward cnn, my name's clarissa ward. i work for cnn and can i ask you a couple of questions? most of them spreadsheet that at the varsha commander at the reveal

and navalny, was it your team that poisoned navalny, please? do you have any comment? >> he doesn't seem to want to talk to us despite the attempt on his life, navalny vowed to continue his work and return home >> so you've >> said that you want to go back to russia and i will do. >> you're aware of the >> risks of going back >> yes. but i'm russian >> politician and even when i was not just in hospital, i was in intense therapy and i said publicly, i will go back and i will go back because i'm russian politician, i belong to this country and definitely which i, i especially now when this actually crime has cracked open, revealed i understand the whole operation. i would never give putin such a gift. >> zaqout before boarding the plane to moscow, navalny posted an explosive hey, on youtube about the 1.3 billion dollar black sea villa. he claimed

belong to vladimir putin. it was viewed more than 100 million times the moment he landed back in moscow, he was taken into custody yet even in prison, navalny never stopped criticizing putin, never lost the extraordinary charisma encourage that made him popular. brushes opposition has now been crushed, but in prescient words from the oscar winning documentary, navalny, he had a clear message for the russian people. in other news, you are not allowed to give up. he says, >> if they kill me, it >> means we are incredibly strong. >> and i'm joined now by our chief international correspondent, clarissa ward, and we've seen some skirmishes of people arrested. what more kind of reactions have you seen across russia? >> more than 100. according to a russian monitoring group, have been arrested or detained on the streets of various cities across russia. we've also seen some silent vigils.

people lining up tearfully, just placing flowers out in memory of alexey navalny. but definitely it has been a very muted response inside russia where the risks are so high across the world though, we have seen russians coming out outside embassies in many different capitals openly grieving this tremendous loss for anybody who believed in a better freer future for russia anderson cruz to stay with us. >> i want to bring in the director of the academy award winning documentary film navalny, a clip which we just saw in clarissa's piece daniel rohr joins us now. daniel, i know you spent obviously a great deal of time working with alexey navalny. i'm so sorry for the pain you must be feeling and all those who worked on the film with you, can you just talk a little bit about what he was actually like in person because i mean, just from a distance the extraordinary courage and strength he must have had to knowingly go back to russia

knowing what awaited him, knowing the likelihood of, of what could how is life could end >> well, anderson, first and foremost, thank you for having me on the program this evening. i'm sad to be here, but i'm happy that i get to talk a little bit about alexei here's a man who is charismatic. he was funny. he was a terrific father. he loved to debate, he loved to talk about politics. he and i became fast friends. and although we didn't have the same mother language, i think are common language was through humor. he he was very quick to make front of me and i give it right back to him and i think that job you'll relationship really comes through in the movie and that's the man who i'm thinking about and mourning today. >> well, i'm clarissa, i mean, you interviewed him as well and i'm talking about humor we saw that in his last quarter appearance, which was just yesterday remotely from the penal colony where he was he

was joking with the judge that he was talking to. >> he was. and if you actually stay on the schotte anderson, you see the camera pan over to the prison guard and the prison guard is laughing long because even those who were part of the system that was working against navalny found it very difficult when confronted with him in person, not to be disarmed. he was self-deprecating. he it was funny. he was humor as he was determined he was defiant and very difficult not to admire that in some way, shape, or form. anderson for people who watch your film now, what do you hope that they take away from it about what he represented >> you know, anderson, i think that the legacy of the film is different now, i used to tell people that this movie is, believe it or not, a comedy. he such a funny, charismatic guy it is not funny anymore you know, i think now when people watch this film, they need to be reminded of the fragility of

democracy. of course, navalny's great mission was to bring democracy to russia. but all over the world, there are contexts where the rise of authoritarianism it's sweeping through all kinds of countries. and i think we have to realize that democracy is fragile and certainly here in this country where there are political factions who seem to embrace authoritarianism we need to participate and be active citizens and heed the call that navalny delivered at the end of the movie. don't be inactive. >> clarissa, this may sound like an odd question to some people, but, but do we know what will happen to his body? will his family get his body back? and i asked this, not just for because i'm for their peace of mind, but also for evidence of actually what was done to him or what happened to him >> i don't think anyone is holding out hope anderson, that there is going to be a proper, thorough, and transparent autopsy. and unlike the investigation which daniel documented, which we were privileged to be a part of along with bellingcat, led by

christo grozev. i think it's very unlikely that we will have that kind of a thorough and clear reckoning as to how exactly alexei navalny was killed. but the bottom line, ultimately, whether it's from his friends, his followers world leaders across the globe, is that russia is responsible no matter how exactly he may have died today. the reality is, he was being held in the custody of the russian state and you heard president biden himself say it. vladimir putin is the man responsible for being tortured? the very least psychologically, having somebody put in his cell who'd never bathed and who had some severe mental or emotional issues. >> i mean the full extent of the stresses and horrors that he had to face on a daily basis. it there it's untold. daniel, i just want to play a bit more from the film, from your film, where he speaks to

his supporters noodles. we >> need to utilize this power to not give up. those don't to remember, we are a huge power got that now. >> court is being oppressed by these bad do you leave? we don't realize how strong we actually are. >> and this will could let me seemingly. >> so she only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing. >> nobody by. >> so don't be inactive i mean, daniel, do you think others will take his place? i mean, that others will stand up where he no longer can i think that that's the most important thing that i'm thinking about today. anderson navalny was one man, but he set up his organization quite intentionally. so then the case of his death, there would be a continuity. this is the beginning of a new dawn for the

russian opposition. and the it is darkest just before the dawn, so it is, i hope that the supporters in the staff who have been helping him will rise to the occasion. i don't yet know who the next navalny will be or the next iteration of the russian opposition. what that will look like? but i take solace in knowing that navalny has gone, but his mission lives on. >> clarissa ward. thank you. daniel roher. thank you so much. and i'm glad that the film navalny, will be seen again tomorrow night, nine eastern time right here on cnn just ahead, georgia da fani willis testified yesterday today was her father's turn. what he said and whether it will help his daughter stay on the case against trump you should add to that >> you want >> anti >> that i'm connecting the skill professionals to get all your home projects well, you can focus on the important stuff. can see millions of

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absolutely free. that's f use to 231231 cnn saturday mornings starting tomorrow at eight on cnn >> the hearing to determine whether georgia da fani willis will be disqualified from her election interference case against the former president. others has concluded. willis, his dad took the stand today as did the da for divorce attorney and former law partner for nathan wade, who's relationship with willis is but the heart of the hearing. nick valencia has details >> tell us why you relate today. >> terrence bradley was

supposed to be a star witness for defense attorneys trying to disqualify fulton county district attorney, fani willis from the donald trump election interference case. >> but >> on friday, weights, former law partner and divorce attorney couldn't provide details to show willis and nathan wade were lying about the extent of the romantic relationship. >> i have no personal knowledge of when it actually happened i was not there i do not have any personal knowledge or attorney-client privilege. a major hurdle for the defense especially after a judge scott mcafee ruled bradley could not be asked about what privileged conversations he had with weighed about his relationship to talk about privilege happy to ask him the substance of the question. >> yet, one defense attorney managed to introduce a text exchange with bradley in 2023 about the wade willis romance. >> so what i have is a text message from you saying, oh, my god, nathan took funny on a trip to napa and pay for with

his firm >> continue reading. >> and you said easy that dome also testifying friday, fani willis, his father, backing up her heated testimony from thursday when she said she keeps cash on hand. >> i've always kept case and i've told my daughter all right. you keep six months worth of cash, always on both days, money was center stage because defense attorneys are trying to prove that willis somehow benefited financially from a relationship with wade through gifts and vacations that weighed paid for with money he earned on the case when we went out multiple times, that probably went to the level of more than $100. but if we're doing for tat like that, i probably paid for as many meals as he paid for and so i did not receive any gifts from him and willis and wade both maintain the relationship began only after wade took the job of special prosecutor. will this his father testified he didn't know about the relationship until the rest of the world found out

and only met him recently. >> it did not meet nathan wade until 2023. >> a surprise turn. willis did not take the stand again on friday, her team believing they had enough to beat back efforts to disqualifier >> it has no further questions for ms melissa. >> nick valencia, cnn, atlanta i'm joined now by michael moore, former us attorney in georgia, plus criminal defense attorney and former manhattan chief assistant da karen friedman, agnifilo. karen, i'm did the defense here move the needle at all because it seems like on every front they've pretty much come up with nothing on two areas. i think they did not succeed. number one, they really haven't established a conflict of interest financial conflicts of interests as much as they kept trying. they're just was nothing there that would show that there was any sort of financial relationship or financial incentive that fani willis was benefiting? current salary that wade was correct. >> and

>> second, they tried to discredit fani willis and nathan wade, who both testified that the relationships started after he was hired and they failed at that as well, despite trying. in fact, a former governor of georgia testified today and it was all about the fact that ms willis da willis tried to get him to take the job because she testified that he was nathan wade wasn't even her first choice so she tried to get the former governor who's now a lawyer to take the job but that he didn't want to do it because of all the threats and financial reasons and the date was prior to when nathan wade was hired. >> so let's play we have the sound of roy barnes on the stand. let's play that she asked me if i'd be interested in being special prosecutor to which i replied that i had mouths to >> feed at a law office and that i could not would not do

that >> you went on to say he didn't want to live with bodyguards for the rest of his life because of threats he was already receiving for other stuff. the significance of that to you is that wade was not her first choice and the allegation is they were in our prior relationship and she picked way because they were dating this would indicate that she actually tried to pick this guy first >> exactly. and so there really was no financial conflict of interests that would impact whether or not she could be still the prosecutor on this case. and there was just really nothing to disk prove what they were saying and to move the ball forward on the financial aspect, either michael, do you think the judge is going to take fani willis office? >> i don't know i don't know if that judgment about having relationship both just on what the french do their job. >> i think it's a 50-50 chance right now that she comes off. i

think the easiest i want to have been if she just pulled weight off of the case early out and maybe we wouldn't be in all of this circus that we've been watching here but what may happen is this issue of the attorney-client privilege. and so there's a lawyer, mr. bradley, we've heard from and he's now being interviewed in camera, which just means privately by the judge. and so the judge is going to inquire whether or not he what he knew when he knew at those things that that the judge protected from the courtroom and from the public things that could have been attorney-client privilege. and we'll see that attorney can talk to the judge. frankly, even stuff that's attorney-client well, the judge will do it carefully to make sure there's no incrimination and that kind of thing, but he'll ask him about things like these text messages that we've seen in these this question of >> whether or not mr. bradley approved of the content. so the motion that seems to be out there that there's an email and text apparently where he approved the allegations set forth in the motion if that happened then i think that's a different ballgame when you've got a possibility of a

prosecutor and maybe a special prosecutor not being candid with the court. and so we've got one witness. we know the first witness who said now this happened earlier. we've got mr. wade, azuela's saying they visited with each other in 2021 privately at her home. and now we have this issue of the apparently the divorce or having some information that seems to indicate that maybe that was maybe there was a relationship and we don't know it yet. so while the fight for the money is not there yet that could be like just like a lot of times the cover up could be worse. >> kairys, you agree with that because that first witness who said, oh, she thought the relationship came earlier i mean, they impugned her potential motives that she was basically forced out of the da's office given the chance of either resigning or being fired. >> look, i think there was she >> didn't have any specifics exactly. i think there was a lot more that the defense could have done, but didn't do here for example, define what you mean by relationship where their feelings between them because it just sexual. >> the second

>> relationship exactly. >> or did they have a crush on each other? did they were they close friends? i mean they didn't pursue that at all. nobody >> i was baffled by this because they really didn't pre-state. they were not precise. and if they were precise, i think and ask more questions that went more to heart of the issue and the problem. they should also ask to fani willis about how did how did you hire for people and what vetting process did they go to and did they submit invoices and how did you determine the $250 an hour versus somebody else who under that was asked none of that was asked. and had they developed that record? i think that they could have established potentially a conflict of interest that if there is something to discredit them, i think could potentially make them come off the case, but the lawyers instead, i think focused on the salacious part of it rather than the facts that could help their case for making never michael moore. thank you so much. appreciate it. more. breaking news, new whose reporting in the russian, the nuclear space weapon that us officials say russia is

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still, it's clear the administration views this as a threat, and it's not just because of the risk to us satellites which are used for things like nuclear command and control, early warning satellites and more. it's all also the threat to commercial satellites that are used for communications, internet, and so much more, this is what's put at risk if the russians were to make such a nuclear space weapon operational and how does any electromagnetic pulse weapon work? >> so that's what's the heart of this, that byproduct of a nuclear explosion normally when we think of a nuke, we think of the explosion itself, the heat from it causing that destruction. in this case, one of the byproducts of a nuclear explosion is an electromagnetic pulse, which is a very powerful full energy wave effectively that fries the circuitry in the electronics within a satellite. it doesn't have to destroy physically, but it renders it in it makes it useless, so that the satellite itself can't work. that's how this weapon could work. and it wouldn't just affect us satellites

effectively. anything near it would be affected by an electromagnetic pulse if it's powerful enough and that's part of the risk here. it's not specifically targeted. it could wipe out a whole bunch of satellites that are used not only by the us military and others, but also by commercial companies. and for so many more purposes now, us satellites, especially the military ones, are supposed to be i have systems that defend against ew weapons electromagnetic weapons, but it would still take out a tremendous number of commercial satellites, us, russian, and so much more that end of itself would have a dramatic effect on global communications and so much more here so could also take out russian satellites. and is it known what russia is timeline is for the technology as of right now, this is still in development, so it's not yet operational, but clearly the administration views this as a risk. there is no set timeline here, but yes, absolutely. this would affect russia russian satellites that were on an orbit that were near where this

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