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tonight, good news on crime, new data showing something you wouldn't know from the headlines, violent crime down across the country and murdered down sharply. plus more twist and the royal photo flap, a new video appears in an old photo was likely dr. more questions about what is going on with the royals. good evening. thanks for joining us today. the former president of the united states asked the supreme court for absolute immunity from charges connected to his attempt to overturn the election. he lost not granting him that he warned would be quote, the end of the presidency as we know it. continuing from his brief quote as the recent history of impeachment demonstrates, once our nation crosses this rubicon, every future president will face to facto blackmail and extortion while in office and will be harassed by politically-motivated prosecution true? leaving office over his most sensitive and controversial decisions. now we should point out here that this has never happened to a former president before this one. and there's no evidence that's happening now to him yet that dubious idea, which a lower court unanimously
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rejected is now central to a sweeping invitation for the courts is set precedent for generations to come i call for overturning the common sense notion that no president is beyond accountability. something the founders certainly believed in two centuries later, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell gave is his reason for not holding the former president accountable after january 6, we have a criminal justice system in this country we have civil litigation >> and former >> presidents are not immune from being accountable by either one. >> well let's of course, this former president gets what he wants from the supreme court, mourn all this now from cnn's evan perez, who joins us now. so what stands out in this filing him what anderson, this is designed to appeal to the conservative justices who have this expansive view of the power of the presidency. i'll read you just a part of what the trump lawyers say in this as filing, they say a former president enjoys absolute immunity from criminal
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prosecution for his official acts criminal immunity arises directly from the exact executive vesting clause and the separation of powers. they go on to say that the impeachment judgment clause reflects the founders understanding that only a president convicted by the senate after impeachment could be criminally prosecuted. of, of course, obviously understand that that is referring directly to that episode that you just played from mitch mcconnell, which is during the impeachment proceeding, the trump lawyers argued that you could leave it for the criminal justice system to take care of this issue that the president was being accused of and of course now there are arguing the opposite. they're saying that first you have to be impeached and convicted by the senate for before you can actually take any kind of criminal action against the former president this this argument also, anderson is designed also to remind brett kavanaugh of some of his own
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writings. they point out that in the past, he has pointed, pointed out that a president who was concerned with being criminally prosecuted is inevitably going to do a worse job, design. again to appeal to that core conservative group on the supreme court, is it clear when special counsel jack smith may respond to this? >> yeah. the supreme court has already set those deadlines april 8 is when the government is due to respond. of course, there's gonna be another set of filings after that and then the oral arguments are set for april 25th and we're anticipating that jack smith and his team are going to go back to the thing that you just opened with, which is that no president, no one under our system is supposed to be above the law, which is what president trump and his for president trump and his legal team arguing here. >> evan perez appreciative. thank you. joining us now is former republican congressman adam kinzinger, who served on
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the house january 6 committee, also seen and legal analysts, jennifer rodgers and maggie haberman, senior political correspondent for the new york times maggie. >> let's start out with you. i mean, first of what do you make of this latest filing? not a surprise. >> now it's a continuation of an argument that they've used several times, perhaps more emphatically right now, i think that the brett kavanaugh writing is very intentionally done we know this is a former president who has talked repeatedly in private about being unhappy with the supreme court justices who he pointed because they haven't cited with him in his election lies previously. brett kavanaugh is somebody who came under a lot of scrutiny and a lot of attack during his confirmation process. and i don't think that that's a coincidence that they're using this, but look, they are looking toward oral argument and they are looking toward how the justices are going to respond to it. and it is not especially turning to them that has ever noted, they are taking contradictory positions and one filing they say, well, he wasn't impeached and then another they say, well, the criminal justice during impeachment, they said the criminal justice system is where this should be dealt
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with. i just don't think we can underscore enough how consequential mitch mcconnell's speech was that day not because he was so hard get on trump, but because of what he chose not to do, which was not to vote to convict and not to whip other republicans to do the same >> in jennifer, every trump's lawyers, i want to read what he said. let's put it on the screen. he said if their lawyers said if immunity is not recognized, every future president will be forced to grapple with the prospect of possibly being criminally prosecuted after leaving office every time i'm he or she makes a politically controversial decision that would be the end of the presidency as we know it, and would irreparably damage our republic. what do you make of that? i mean what do you expect the supreme court to do here? >> yeah, we'll accept that this has never happened before. no president has ever faced that, that concern before because no other president has done this let's before listen, i think that the court is going to look at his argument for absolute immunity, which is the argument that he has to make here. he can't really make a more nuanced argument about all of these things i did were part of
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my official duties as president and therefore, i should be protected in the way that he could if he say ordered a drone strike in some day somewhere, tried to prosecute him or something what he did he did as a candidate for his own personal benefit and his political benefit not for his job as a president and the country. and that's why he has to go big on this argument for absolute immunity. and he has to raise the specter of oh, if you do this, you know, everyone's going to be prosecuted after this. will no one has been prosecuted before in the history of our country, no one who lives it is within the bounds of the law while their president will be prosecuted. again, this is really about his actions and because those actions are outside of any reasonable scope of what the president is supposed to be doing. i think the court will have to set a standard that is below absolute immunity for sure. >> so, congressman, i mean, if former president is can't be prosecuted, why did gerald ford pardoned richard nixon? i mean also by the trump team's logic, every president could go in a crime spree. the last morning of his term in congress wouldn't have time to impeach convicts, so he could never be prosecuted. >> no, yeah, that's right. that's its logical conclusion.
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you can do that. a president could form a militia. he could order the military to overthrow congress like there's any any number of horror stories that we can think of. a president could theoretically do with absolute immunity and the only way he would ever be left out of power is if he failed at his illegal action, it'd be succeeded. of course, he just stay in power at that point. so the logical conclusion of this is, i, i don't think there's a chance in the world the supreme court finds in favor of trump, but the other thing i ask is like, let's do what i've literally just thought of it created the biden test. okay. >> so if you if joe biden could do what donald trump is saying, he wants to do, would that side believed that immunity would exist for instance, when they argued that a president could, in theory, have seal team six, go after his political rival they say if joe biden could do that, well, of course they'd say no to that and so everybody has to be held to the same standard if the biden test
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doesn't pass and there's no way that the trumps should be able to get away with what he tried. you did. >> it may give trump's lawyers, they invoked the drone strikes by president obama middle east airstrikes launched by president clinton around the time the monica lewinsky scandal as examples of conduct, they thought could be could have been prosecuted. and then they write in all of these instances, the president's political opponents routinely accused him and currently accused president biden of criminal behavior in his official acts. in each case, those opponents later came to power with ample incentive to charge him >> adding an example is really strange considering that example about biden is being made primarily by trump and by people connected to trump what they're trying to say with the president clinton and president obama arguments is basically that there is no such thing as an official act that isn't political that you can't divorce one from the other. and i expect you will hear them make a version of that before the supreme court. i don't know how compelling it'll be because when they tried going down this road in the lower court, one of the questions
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that came up was, what if there was ordering seal acyl 16 to go assassinate a political rival and that got into a cul-de-sac that i'm not sure the trump lawyers wanted to be. and so you can argue your both in one direction or another here, but i don't think that any, any rational person thinks that drone strikes are the same and they will try to suggest they were because he was talking to as vice president. but there's so much else that comprises what he's been indicted four in connection with january 6, jennifer, the trump's team also floated this idea that if mr. freeman the court refused to grant him full immunity in the kitchen, could be sent back to the lower court's how the how much would that delay things? >> yeah. well, if they did what he wants them to do, it would delay things substantially, which is go back for some sort of factual finding and application of the new test of this case and then come back up on appeal inevitably, but they don't need to do that here. we're not at a stage where there's factual findings to be had except for the trial itself. they have the indictment at this stage of the game. the indictment is taken
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as these are the facts we're working with and they have the law, the constitution is they're going to evaluate this immunity argument up against the constitution. so the lower courts can't do anything more than they can do the word. so there's no need to send it back for anything other than the trial itself. and that's that's what his argument is missing. he wants another spring back and forth to delay things. a number of months again, really till next term. and the supreme court, but the supreme court won't fall for that. there's no fact-finding to be done. encouragement. i mean, it's important to point out that there's a lot at stake here in this ruling. >> oh, there's a lot at stake. >> i mean, not just in terms of what it means for this election. obviously, if the supreme court comes back of what the expect we expect and say, you don't have absolute immunity then potentially this trial will proceed. >> but it has a >> huge deal of that state. if they come back and say there is such thing as unlimited amino, i don't see how the presidency, and frankly how democracy can continue if you have a bad act are in place that literally can get away
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with anything so long as he or she has the title of president in front of their name. and this is a very important thing for the supreme court to take up. it may be why they decided to take this up the appellate court, but they're going to have to make their stamp and hopefully it comes out 90, potentially 81, but it's going to be a war zone in defeat for trump. i think adam kinzinger. thank you. jennifer rodgers, maggie, he everyone as well as the former president was arguing for immunity. one of his former top advisers, peter navarro, faced accountability. the first of four for months worth in federal prison for defying congressional subpoena in his last moments of freedom, the menno one spoke from the north lawn of the white house and the white house briefing room. real that reporters from a strip mall parking lot details now from randy k every person who has taken me on this road to that prison is a brilliant democrat >> and at >> trump pater, that's former trump white house adviser, peter navarro, minutes before he turned himself into federal
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prison in miami as the first former white house official to be imprisoned for attempt of congress conviction when i walked in that prison today, the justice system, such as the days will have done a crippling blow for the constitutional separation of powers and executive privilege. >> navarro was convicted in september after refusing to comply with the subpoena from the house select committee, which investigated the january 6 attack back on the us capitol. liz cheney, who was vice chair of the panel, said navarro would have been a witness in america. >> no one is above the law. every citizen has a duty to comply with a subpoena. >> navarro argues he was bound by executive privilege defense. that's been rejected in court do you wish you had shown up for testimony and asserted privilege in person? >> if i had gone to congress and played the piecemeal game with them, i would have done damage to the separation of powers and i would not have been doing my duty. i would not have been obeying my oath of
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office in his final minutes as a free man, navarro continued to paint himself as a victim. i'm >> that's what i'm feeling right now. all i have done is my duty to this country. >> just last week, navarro asked the supreme court to intervene and allow him to remain free while he challenged his conviction. the high court rejected his last-minute bid on monday. navarro has never been able to show that executive privilege would have applied in his case, the prison were navarro will serve his time is one of the oldest prison camps in the country. one navarro has complained about financial problems. the prison consultant he hired to make his time more comfortable inside told cnn that the 74 year-old will be housed in an air conditioned dormitory for elderly male inmates. the consultant said navarro will have access to television, email, and be able to make phone calls and he'll be expected did to take classes and get a job. he'll likely also be able to hear the roar of the lions from the zoo next door, as peter navarro headed
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off to officially turned himself in, he left us with this god bless you all. >> i'll >> see you on the other side. >> randy joins me now from outside the prison. did he say whether he had talked to donald trump before heading to prison >> anderson? he was asked about that at the news conference. and once again, he claimed executive privilege. he would not say what whether or not he had any conversations recently with the former president though he did say he believes he has former president trump's full support. he also said that while in prison, he believes that one of the things that will keep him going and give him strength is knowing that donald trump will be the republican nominee. but it is worth noting, anderson and that according to this prison consultant who has been working with peter navarro, it he told cnn that it's very unlikely who will serve his full four months sentence. he said it's more likely he'll serve about 90 days because there are laws in place that allow for early release for federal inmates. anderson ran dk. thanks very
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i'm david culver in port-au-prince, haiti and this to cnn >> or breaking news and i polls close to short time ago in ohio. and though the presidential outcome there is now academic who wins the republican senate primary could play a key part in who controls the senate next year? cnn's jeff zeleny in columbus, ohio for us and our political director, david chaldean, is in washington with new exit polling. so david, first of all, the exit polling, which it's saying, yeah, anderson, i mean, these exit polls give us insight into how this republican primary electorate in ohio sort of sorts itself. one of the key questions we've been tracking all primary season is asking republican primary voters, do you believe that joe biden legitimately won the 2020 election? we know the answer to that is yes, but if you look here among republican primary voters in that key set of primary, anderson, only a third, say yes, 32% here say yes, 63% wrongly say no he did
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not legitimate the win. that larger group take a look at how they split in this republican senate primary. they overwhelmingly, if you look here, go for bernie moreno, the trump-backed candidate over matt dolan. so moreno wins 58% of the so-called election deniers. the bigger group of voters here to matt dolan is 24%. frank larose and 18% with these voters, if you look at the reverse, those that do believe correctly that joe biden was legitimately elected. remember, a smaller group, just a third. and you see that matt dolan does much better with those voters. again, he's the establishment back a candidate. he gets 63% of those who say biden was legitimately elected. trump's candidate, bernie moreno, only gets 20% of those voters, anderson and jeff words, what's the sense of where the senate primaries headed tonight? >> well, that's certainly is the divide that david laid out. there. are there is a sense, this is establishment versus
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maga, primary. and of course we we've seen these play out through the era of trump for year after year, we will see what the ohio result is site, but matt dolan, the state senator, he is backed by ohio governor mike dewine and former senator rob portman moreno for his part, is backed by donald trump and senator jd vance and others. but anderson, beyond this establishment, mega divide in politics. there's a stark policy differences. well, and this is something that really has emerged in the final days of this race. governor dewine has been urging in fact, imploring republicans to look at the policy differences specifically on things like ukraine, on funding for ukraine, ohio has a very large ship ukrainian in population in this was once a central issue now in this maga movement, if you will, the funding for ukraine is very much uncertain >> so the policy differences here also are so starch is ohio going to completely change in the way of the trump era like
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jd vance or will be establishment wing, if you will, hold on a bit in the vein of senator rob portman or governor dewine. so yes, there are political differences, but the policy differences here also are significant yeah. >> david, how do you see it? i mean, if the trunk pack candidate wins and ohio, what does that mean for the more establishment republicans, they're, that, they're time being the dominant force in the republican party is over anderson. i mean, it's just, it's not reflective of the party anymore. you're looking there at the vote totals in this current rates we've got about roughly 19% of the estimated vote and you see it's a pretty close race. their 3,089.9% to 38.3%. i just want to note here, anderson, the vast majority of this vote that is already when is pre-election vote? it's early absentee vote. so as we know, sort of trump-aligned forces tend to show up on election day itself. so if bernie moreno is benefitting from trump's backing here it would make sense that as more election day vote comes in, he may see his numbers grow right now. you're
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looking at all early absentee vote, but to your point, that establishment wing of the party, if indeed they come up short here yet again, as they did throughout the presidential primary season, as they haven't so many primaries, able just be yet another sign. this is donald trump's republican primary and his supporters are the dominant force inside of it. >> jeff, i'm there are some democrats you'd think that a candidate aligned with the former president would be easier to beat in november, that strategy worked for them and 2022 what are the chances it works in ohio this time around >> we'll certainly see, i mean, that's where the three-dimensional chess comes in, if you will, in the final days of this race, a super pac that's align with senator the senate majority leader, chuck schumer weighed in on this race, but some 3 million in ads or so supporting promoting bernie moreno, tying him to donald trump, trying to elevate him. they believe he will be the easier a candidate to win in the fall that's very much an open question. in this presidential election year, sherrod brown has been on the
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ballot as a senator three times. the only time in a presidential year was 2012 i'm just wondering what barack obama, who won the state of ohio. there's no doubt for senator brown to win. he has to win many trump voters. >> so that is the obstacle course. horse here. but democrats believed that moreno will be the weaker candidate in november. that's why they tried to prop him up the end. one of the many dynamics going on here, we've seen democrats be successful in meddling in these republican primaries. i will see if they are again tonight. and in >> november, david how concerned anything the trump campaign should be about where nikki haley's support level. it's not even though she suspended her campaign two weeks ago >> yeah. anderson, we're not very focused on the presidential primary because it's over. but if you look at the vote board right now and you noted nikki haley's been out of this race for two weeks now. she's pulling roughly the last time i checked with 20% of the vote, there you go. 21.9% of the vote, 22% of the estimated vote in nikki haley sitting there at 22% of the vote, she's not even
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campaigning. she hasn't had any edge. she's not a candidate, so it represents sense that there is still this faction, a small faction inside the republican electorate that is just consistently resistant to donald trump. so as he, as the nominee, now the presumptive nominee of this party headed into this general election season. part of his mission is to get a big swath of those haley voters back on board with his campaign so that he has a unified republican party taking on joe biden this fall >> david challenge of zeleny. thanks. now, significant progress in a problem that voters are hearing plenty about from candidates this year, especially the former president crime, new fbi data showing it fell significantly last year, almost across the board property crime, most so down violent crime also down murdered down sharply. today, president biden touted the new numbers, took a jab at the former president over his record in office and promised to keep fighting for police funding and a ban on assault weapons in an hour to talk more about this scene. and chief law
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enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. so john, i mean, the biden administration certainly celebrating these numbers how substantial of a drop in crime is this? >> well, it's pretty substantial. i mean, you've got like a 13% decrease in murder shootings going down. we are not yet back to pre-pandemic numbers, but we're on the way and that's important because pre-pandemic numbers, particularly in violent crime some of the lowest ever that doesn't mean. and we check the fbi stats against the major city chiefs, that there aren't certain cities that are still having big challenges, particularly what shootings, but >> why is there a sense of why violent crime is down? >> yeah. so i mean, if you look at the graphics of the whole thing you have 2018, 20 mean 19 crime is very low in the united states, low, it's has been in many, many years, but then 2020, you've got the pandemic. you've got court's being shut down, you've got breonna taylor and george floyd. you've got demonstrations and disorder. you have police
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stopping, making arrests in certain cases, you've got defund the police, you have a lot of things coming together and almost a perfect storm that we saw a surge in crime in those two years. then when you look at 20:22, 2023, you see some of those cities have refunded police, rehired officers. the court backlogs are now kind back to normal you see some of the laws that were sweeping have been adjusted and fixed so that the criminal justice system works smoother and you see that crime goes flat. and now we see it starting to go down again. >> why do you think there is a discrepancy between the way people feel or the way it's being portrayed. paid. >> and i mean these numbers because there's plenty of people. i mean, i look around new york and think, wow, it seemed things seem so, it's very real discrepancy. if you look at the surveys that have done either either by pew research and the gallup polls you know, they'll, they'll tell
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you consistently that if you ask people, is gun crime, gun violence, violent crime better now or worse than it was 20 years ago. they'll say, oh, it's gotten much worse 30 years ago. we know 30 years ago there were 24,000 murders across the united states. now that's down between 15.18, depending on what year you're looking at. but the perception is it's worse partly because of us now we have almost instantaneous access to very dramatic video from people who sell see it more even though it may not be let's talk about the active shooters and of course, the politics of it is some politicians. and we were just talking about that reinforce the ideas ever rising crime when in fact it's way down from what it used to be and it's starting to get back to where it was at its lowest. >> but that's so fascinating to me that because we have more info formation and cameras and more ubiquitous, we see it more and it makes us well he has a psychological effect.
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>> it's interesting and it's not just us, it's social media too. yeah. people are getting that feed from the citizen app and all those other things that's a lot of input and it affects people. miller. thank you. coming up, possibly another doctored royal photo and it comes princess catherine and prince william were spotted together in public. you see the video. they're smiling, happy details ahead >> the right age for neutrogena retina >> that's whenever you want it to be. >> it has germ proven retina. >> the targets vital cell turnover, even skin tone and smooths fine lines with visible results in just one week neutrogena retinol >> do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need now you can sell your policy even a term policy for an immediate cash payment called coventry direct to learn more. we thought we had planned carefully for our retirement, but we quickly realized we needed a way to supplement our income our friends sold their policy to help pay their
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diamond has more on some children who've been in an israeli hospital. we're now actually being sent back to gaza little sorrow is barely six months old, born in east jerusalem. all she knows is the safety of this hospital room this week, that will be torn away. war will become her new reality i might go back and they invade rafah, her mother nima says, i'll be the one responsible for anything that harms them >> let's what i said, if i go >> back with the twins, where do i go with them? where would i get? diapers and milk? gaza is not the same anymore. >> five once i met for nearly six months, these three mothers have been living, sleeping, and nursing their five babies in this hospital room together before the war, there high-risk pregnancies made them eligible to leave gaza and give birth in
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jerusalem hospitals but now. they've packed their bags the israeli government is sending them back to gaza, where israel's brutal military campaign has made survival a daily struggle. >> but as i was like i feel have hannan, the mother of twins, says she's scared of going back to gaza without a ceasefire there are diseases spreading, infections. she says, it's not a normal life they will be among the 22 palestinians set to be bused to the kerem shalom crossing in the south, but her husband is in the north and hanon is still trying to find and to place to live despite that uncertainty, are smart, wants to return to gaza, but i've known awesome my daughter is there. >> she needs me i says every time she speaks to me, she asks when i'm coming back, every time there's an airstrike, children go to hug their mothers and mine has no one to hug at nearby augusta victoria
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hospital, nearly 50 gazan cancer patients have been receiving treatments since before october 7, watching from afar as their families enjoy the horrors of war i from muhammad, one of the ten who are in remission and being sent back to gaza, being far away from his son, hamza was blind, has been the hardest to bear but going back is also terrifying >> i'm torn. he says the only wish i have in life is to go back home. i regret even coming here for treatment. i wish i could be with them because i know how they need me in a statement, the israeli agency in charge of their returns had patients who have received medical treatment and who are not in need of further medical care are returned to the gaza strip. after more than two
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months of pushing back on israeli demands, dr. fadi atrash says he was ordered to compile a list of patients to be sent back to gaza this week. >> we don't want to send them, but it's it's not our call at the end of the day. >> now, he fears for his patients all the support, all that before that, we have been we have been putting too to try to cure them or to put them in a good condition, or to improve their quality of life will be lost because there is no caring gaza there is no hospitals, there is no health care. the system is totally destroyed >> the mothers are preparing for their journey he thought sweets and toys for the children who are waiting for them if they want to throw away all my belongings, they can, but not this bag for my daughter. >> should it is all >> they can bring for the children who have endured so much in six months and the
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babies who will soon learn the reality of war far too young injury. >> what is the israeli government's reason for sending the patient's back? and so gaza or their stated reason well. >> interest in israeli official say that these patients were brought to jerusalem in order to receive treatments and they say that now that that treatment has been completed, they must go back to gaza despite the fact that the war is still very much ongoing, red cross officials, i'm told visited the hospital today, but there is still no clear plan for who or if anyone will actually meet these patients and these mothers and their babies on the other side of the border, once they cross into gaza, instead, what awaits them is uncertainty and potentially a three mile walk all the way to rough for that ski southern city in gaza. all of this walking with their babies, with their luggage is and everything that they have brought with them. all of this, of course, as there is major uncertainty about what will happen in rafah
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kate's re-emergence an apparent recovery from surgery. >> so it's good to see that she's back and hopefully she's doing well. >> i'm showed that it'd be quite nice. we'll head to walk around those are shopping with her husband. >> i didn't really have any doubt when i wade was >> weird because of the conspiracy theories that have swamps social media in recent weeks, filling a void of information from the palace on the video did nothing to quell them as it was accused of being fake trusting any royal imagery undermined in part by kensington palace itself. after it sent out, not one but two doctored photos to the news media both taken by the princess. kate edited mother's day photo manipulated in several places and now this one released last year, which getty images is now labeled digitally enhanced cnn found inconsistencies in several
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spots, such as a misalignment on the queen's skirt but in blanket strands of princess charlotte's hair appear to have been cloned. and prince louis shoulder is blurred, overlapping the background getty told cnn in a statement, is reviewing all so-called royal handout images and placing where relevant an editor's note saying it could have been digitally enhanced william and kate kensington palace was so trusted. at christmas. and now three months later, we have a situation in which whatever photo has put out, people don't believe it. >> the lack of information coming from the palace about the princess has created conspiracy theories. it's often wild ones which get worse when the palace has been found to be manipulating images. >> either they should have said nothing and kept with that just as they said, they were not going to say anything until there was significant updates or they should have put out a few little statements, perhaps a little statement from kate's saying, thank you for the lovely cards and kept people the poor updated to a degree.
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seemingly unfazed, and in good spirits, royals refusing to be distracted in public prince william making a long planned visit is it draw homelessness project in sheffield >> no. lack of support they're all from the papers. as the rumors continue online. >> it max foster joins us now along with kate williams, who was just max's reports you cnn's royal historian. >> kate. i mean, if if the princeton furnaces are out shopping and their local farm shop why wouldn't the pal has given all this intrigue? have made some sort of a video of them or why wouldn't she had made some sort of a statement does it make sense? >> yes. this is what people are saying they're saying if the palate if she's okay to go out walking at a farm shop, which is great to see. then why can't we have a little statement from her so far, the
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only thing we've heard from caters her saying about the editing of that infamous mother's day photo that she liked to play with photoshop. i think most of us didn't believe that it was her who edited the photo. so people are raising these questions and you know, anderson, the queen said, you have to be seen to be believed that's what queen elizabeth said. but now people don't really seem to believe any photo. in fact, i was looking at a newspaper article about the farm shop photo and there were 9,000 comments and the majority he was saying they don't believe this photo either. so i really do think that the world's do have to kate does have to, i think put out a photo or pops a little video just like the king did in february saying, thank you so much for all these get well soon cards because the conspiracy theories are still going on maxims. >> i mean, does this video at this market makes sense to >> it does make sense. i mean, they do go there and it was taken by another shopper and it's definitely them is certainly helped the palace, i mean, not sanctioning it being released, but it's certainly helped them because it
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reinforces their message that she is well they. have a, long tradition of communications. it pretty much goes back centuries. they don't respond to speculation and they're sticking to it. they've got a plan that only going to update people when there is an update to come and they are now caught in this storm, which is pretty unprecedented for royal reporting. in many ways, all reporting because it's blown up in such an extraordinary way. and we've seen how it continues and gets even bigger when they don't respond. so it is an issue for the palace, but they do. there is some strategy here despite the fact many people are completely bemused by what they're, what they're not doing as it were so how i mean, how common would you say it is for photos released by the royal family to be changed or digitally enhanced i mean, the idea that i mean in public these days, so many photos have some sort of touch up yes so
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many photos do, but there is a big difference, isn't the anderson between photos one puts on one's own instagram and photos >> ones give two official agencies such afp and getty. and it's really quite stunning to hear that getty's now going to go through all royal handout photos wondering whether they've been doctored because he know that the royals have doctored since the beginning of time. henry the eighth didn't look anything like his portraits or elizabeth the first, and they all dr. them in as a great one of henry the eighth with his son and the wife, who died in childbirth. but she's looking greater. the sun is ten, so they've always done this history and william and kate have also adopted quite a lot of photos in the past as we saw the christmas photo with a missing finger for louis and no one minded before they just let it was spot the difference. but in the middle of all these conspiracy theories, it just set everyone off. and now i think it's very concerning for kensington palace because you have afp saying that there is same levels of trustworthiness as the agencies of north korea and iran. and that means there's a long way of trust to get back.
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>> natural. is there a difference in how the palate handled king charles's medical issues versus princess kate yeah, he is the manoch and we have a greater right to information about him. so they are deliberately issuing lots of images without the details around his actual health. i just think that kensington palace fields and prince william in particular feels that kate isn't on the throne yet. so she does have a bigger right to privacy in at this point is there anything the royal family can do to regain some the public trust that may have been lost i think that they can do a lot. i think that what william is doing now, going out and about doing engagements which he wasn't doing before, mentioning his wife. he said my wife should be here to hear this today at his engagement about young person's homelessness. that's very important. and i think we probably will see something that picture or statement of cake quiz soon. >> well, i hope so. kate williams, max foster, thanks so much. just ahead you may have seen the headlines about
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promotional products from four imprint.com in britain for certain >> i'm caitlin paul lands in washington and this is cnn time-restricted eating a kind of intermittent fasting is said to help person lose weight and improve cardiovascular health. but now a study presented at a meeting of the american heart association says the opposite, that an eight-hour window for eating and 16 hours not eating is not just bad that it could actually increase risk of death from cardiovascular disease by 90 he one and if you already have cardiovascular disease or risk of dying from heart disease and stroke increases by 66%. the question is, is that actually true? joining me now is seen in medical analyst dr. jonathan reiner, director of the cardiac catheterization lab at george washington university hospital, dr. weiner, good to have you on so there's, a. lot of headlines about this study today. i've done the
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intermittent fasting over the last couple of years off and on what do we know and what do we not know at this point >> yeah, hi anderson >> this >> study is very provocative but really not that convincing. >> so, >> this is what we know intermittent fasting or time restricted eating there are basically three forms of that sometimes people will fast two days out of the week. some people alternate eating one day and fasting and other day and the particular kind of time-restricted eating in this study is a form where people basically restrict their eating to a certain number of consecutive hours in a given day. and in this particular study, they used eight hours as the separation point to compare the effects of this strategy and they looked at a large national database called n hanes which is the national
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health and nutrition examination study they looked at 20,000 patients who self-reported their eating habits. now, importantly, not all of the people who described limiting their eating to a certain number of consecutive i've hours in a day. we're doing that as part part of a die and they importantly, they followed these people longitudinally four, on average about eight years. and unlike early studies which were largely short-term, debt, thinks that blood pressure and cholesterol and weight, this study looked at mortality, looked at cardiovascular mortality. and in this study, the people who restricted they're eating to only eight hours out of 24 hours, eight hours eating 16 hours, fasting seemed to have almost a double risk of cardiovascular mortality out through eight years in this runs counter to everything. >> we've >> sort of expected and learned about this eating strategies over the last several years,
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when many studies have this, you're saying more studies need to be done, essentially, because there's not enough known about this cohort group that maybe it was people weren't eating because i'm job or socioeconomic reasons. and that this study is not conclusive about whether or not you know, not eating for 16 hours a day and only eating and eight hour window is beneficial there's so many potential confounders perhaps the people only eat in those eight hour blocks, have three jobs and they're, you know, they're stopping at mcdonald's between jobs and grabbing something quick. they don't have time to eat. >> perhaps the >> people who are time-restricted have higher blood pressure or higher cholesterol or substantial cardiac histories or family histories >> what it >> seems possible to just for all these confounders, yeah, part of the argument that was being made about restrictive eating is that people lose muscle mass and that as you age
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losing muscle mass can can cause cardiac issues. is that there's losing muscle mass that's that's that's a bad thing. >> yeah >> that's a potential explanation for why it might have a negative effect. i think the take-home message from this friday as well. we've learned early on from this strategy is that if you fast in any of these strategies you'll lose some weight on average between three and and if you lose weight, you'll lower your blood pressure. you'll lower your cholesterol. and you'll lower your weight. >> and >> we know from decades of research that those effects next result in good outcomes. the bottom line is this, this kind of more needs to, needs to be repeated, but in a prospective randomized trial, dr. jonathan ryan or thanks, the news continues right here on cnn it's wednesday, march