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right here on cnn outfront. >> next, breaking news, the jury asking questions, sending notes to the judge. i watched them in the courtroom today. >> the and in women now deciding trump's fate, telling the judge they want to re-hear testimony from two key witnesses, plus justice alito defiant. tonight refusing to recuse himself from cases guides january 6, blaming his wife again and again in a rare letter to congress, i'll talk to congressman jamie raskin. it says he knows how force alito to recuse and fear of a terror attack in new york, police ramping up security tonight as isis case suggests, it may target a stadium that holds up to 34,000 let's go out front and good evening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, the jury sending out notes twice late today asking crucial questions. as donald trump's fate tonight hangs in the balance. now, trump's criminal trial is now in the hands of 12 new yorkers who are debating whether to convict trump in the front
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first criminal trial of an american president ever. seven men and five women on that jury. they have been deliberating now for more than four-and-a-half hours. and i was there today when they sent out to note first, they asked for the transcript of testimony from two major witnesses. >> the former chief of the national enquirer, david pecker and michael cohen, trump's former fixer. the jury specifically asked for the testimony of each of those people, cohen and pecker, regarding a crucial meeting in trump tower in august 2015. >> that's where prosecutors said trump cohen and pecker hatch the plan conspired to boost trump's chances of winning in the election by buying and killing negative stories now, they asking you that specific meeting is important and testimony of the two people who testified who were in that meeting, pecker's testimony had been overall for the former president. he had for days on the stand providing salacious details about trump's alleged affairs and efforts to conceal them before the election. now the jury also wanted to tails other details from pecker's testimony that
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includes information about the former playmate, karen mcdougal, who had said she had nearly a year long affair with trump. now, while the jury was meeting today, the former president had to be there every time they do a note, they come back in the room. the judge, the jury, and the president, a former president, and the lawyers, and otherwise he's sitting in a room off the side waiting on the jury like everybody else. he had nothing to do, apparently, so he fired off more than 50 social media posts in a room somewhere near that courtroom waiting. and he attacked the judge again and again as well as others. but juan merchan laying out great detail. the jury instructions which trump slammed. i want to hold these up because this actually really important tonight, this is 55 pages it's not determined whether he's guilty or innocent. it maybe like a couple of paragraphs. >> i mean, it's 55 pages. >> look at it of a jury instructions on how to determine this case, how with the jury should do to reach their verdict now, here's what's amazing. the jury does not have these instructions they actually don't have them. it's sort of incredible, 55 pages laying out the rules to convict her acquit foreign president. i'd states first in
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history, and they're supposed to remember the 55 pages which brings me to the next note that the jury actually sent out today. they asked for those instructions to also be read tomorrow and the judge is saying, well, which specific part, so they're gonna they're going to clear that up in the morning. but trump, of course, as very upset about the instructions he's not happy with them and he spoke out about it today. >> i would say it listening to the charges from the judge, as you know, very conflicted and corrupt because of the conflictual, very, very mother teresa could not be discharged these charges are rigged. >> all thing is greg the new word can flexion will paula reid is outfront outside the courthouse. >> as you have been into fatigability as we say, paula. >> so everybody is trying to read tea leaves on these notes from the jury, right first, they asked for four pieces of testimony to be re-read, including crucial testimony about that meeting, testimony
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about marin karen mcdougal, then they came back and asked for the jury instructions to be read again. >> what are you learning yeah my favorite thing about today are, and what are the unique features of though do your court system is that when the jury has something to say to the court, they have to bring a buzzer and then we hear this buzzer. everyone freaks out and then we wonder, what do they need and we learned today they sent these two nodes. the first one was that they want to hear more testimony and we know that they have laptop that includes a lot of evidence from this trial, but it does not include transcripts from testimony from witnesses in this case so they asked for for specific pieces of testimony, three of which are from david pecker they asked for a testimony about a call. pecker had with trump, details that pecker testified to about the deal that was it's reach with karen mcdougal, pecker's testimony about the trump tower meeting, and then michael cohen's testimony about that same meeting. now what was really interesting is that the judge locked both the defense attorneys and the prosecutors
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in the courtroom until they could agree about exactly what the jury will hear back and let the jury go home. but he said, look, you're not leaving until both sides agree on what we're going to read them back related to this testimony tomorrow. now, the judge soulmates to settle a few disputes, but tomorrow nine 30, we'll be back here in court, will kick golf is the court reader. the court reporter? she will sit on the witness stand and she will reread these portions of testimony back to the jury. now, as you also noted they have also asked for the jury instructions to be read to them, the judges and clear though they need all 55 pages or just party now, that was a surprise that they asked for that. it suggests that there was some disagreement about what they just heard a few hours of before, but when it comes to the testimony, the fact that they're asking about the 2015 trump tower meeting, the prosecutors allege was the first step in this conspiracy that suggests erin they're going through chronologically, and that would also suggest we could be here for awhile. >> yeah. in the second part of that being important all right. if you're going chronologically, you are you are at the very beginning i
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paula. >> thank you very much. >> and on our panel is here with me, mark amira, i want to start with you just as you take a look at where we are. >> your four plus hours in, it was just before i want to say 3:00 when the first note came out, we all came running into here and it was requesting those four pieces of testimony. and then about a half an hour later, 20 minutes later. so the next request for the actual jury instructions to be read back. so when you take all this and you're four plus hours in, what do you think at this point? >> i think they're doing it very well. i think you're doing chronologically, as was just said there's two ways or two reasons. sometimes you want to transcript. one is too simplistic, one, i thought she said the light was red. no, i believe she said the light was green and they bring out the transcript to resolve the conflict. in fact, as remembered by the jury i would tell you it doesn't see me what's happening here now that we know they're asking you for different transcripts about the same event that one event that
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may be the first step in the conspiracy as alleged by the prosecution. so i think it's good that they're going through it logically somebody said a couple of days ago might be one hour jury, and i think the rest of her said one we said no way. and i think they should take to time. it's a very, very significant case. i think they are and i think they have a lot more work to do through tomorrow and maybe the next day. >> all right. so how are you been in there every every day of the trial and you spent a lot of time watching the jury, obviously, i think what's so interesting today is that it's empty and then all sudden the note comes out. >> it's like back to the 1850s, by friday at those phones like rats and we all go running in and then then the jury and the judge or it comes out. >> okay. and then they put their requests. but you have spent a lot of time watching the jury all the way through this. kristen holmes, who obviously covers the trump campaign. she's reporting the truth comms team believes there are one or two jurors in particular that could deliver them a mistrial what what's your take on the jury luck that
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fact is unremarkable. >> we're exactly at the stage where people are every little thing your tease out in 16 different directions. each party made their final calls for jury selection. remember, and they took a couple of risks and it's just part of the trial lawyers ardor obsession, their focused very much on the jury, and i think it stands to reason for each of them was number seven, kind of smiling when you're there, you just somebody that seemed to nod when jd vance it was in the room. there you go. i have that in particular, a lot of eyes on that juror. that's right. so in other words, the fact that they say, oh, we think there are one or two who could be holdouts. it says essentially nothing. every trial you would have something like that and you'd be focused on in exactly now. >> all right. so as you're in the courtroom today and usually this jury going in and out, what do you read into it? i mean, clearly really they're taking their time and they've paid attention all the way through. but what's your take on them now? >> i think the questions are excellent. the fact that they are looking for pecker's
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testimony compared to collins testimony at that august 2015 meeting and trump tower, it can mean a couple of things. yes, they're starting at the beginning. we already know michael cohen is already deemed an accomplice, so maybe what they're trying to do is to see if his testimony has been corroborated because the judge said it has to be corroborated. so that's what i think they're looking for their and as far as the other two questions, i think they want more details about what is pecker thinking? is he credible? because those other two questions had to do with what pecker is thinking about at that event? mr. meaning. >> and also as far as mcdougal's concern. >> all right. so ryan then on top of all this, the judge the juror, the last note, everyone, every time there's a note, everyone says, well, maybe they're actually not, maybe we're done here anyway. nope, nope, they come out and they want this okay. so can we just take a step back on this 55 pages and they don't get to look at it. >> i mean, i understand this is the case in every case and i want to make that clear, but but that doesn't make any sense. hour-and-a-half to read.
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we were there when he did it. yeah. >> i mean, and then they're supposed to just remember right. so it doesn't make sense in a sense of that's not a smart way of handling the criminal justice system. that is the new york criminal justice. >> so right? no, i understand that production you want people to know what they're doing and then think correctly about it. absolutely makes sense. yeah. the way i think of it as like myself as a lawyer, i want that document. >> i want to look at it based on my computer in hard copy. i want to circle things and highlight them and then helps me remember it, know what the elements of each of the crimes they don't have that they have to do it by memory and only haven't been told it once. so now they're actually asking for the leaves to be told it a second time but that really puts it in a really strange category. >> it also raises the question and i'm just saying it raises the question 55 pages is a lot, so i don't want to put any kind of motivation, but among the things written on these 55 pages, areas, although you must conclude unanimously that the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means, you need not be unanimous as to what those
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unlawful means were this is the entire heart of the point ty cobb was making less that's right. and the fat i i'm not saying that's necessarily what they're going for, but it could be. yeah. >> when we read that all the way through these last few weeks and makes your head spin. but i actually think they have of that out on wednesday. and what the judge gave them i think was not all that complicated. you got to do three things. they were false and bizarrely, the trump team is fighting on what they're saying. oh, that's a real, real things. he was actually getting paid for legal services preposterous and, you these false false records were done to promote some candidacy that looks pretty strong as well. and by unlawful means, but they're really leading with one in theory, which is the unlawful means here is an excessive federal campaign contribution. so all in all, i don't think you immediately go into the deep band. i think it's manageable for the jury. i just wanted to say one thing about the call, so i agree with it, with everything, but the
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call's important that pecker takes from trump first it's very memorable. he's talking to shareholders on the president and united states is on the call. >> but it does two things. >> i think. first, it makes clear pecker things that trump had an affair with mcdougal. he says so. yeah, and so it might mean they're thinking about trump's credibility, including with stormy. but second and more importantly trump tells pecker just go to. cohen cohen will take care of this. in other words, he casts does trump cohen in the exact role cohen said he play? >> and it makes and that's consistent, which could be significant. >> mark amira, i know these instructions stand out to you though again, as i go through them with 55 pages well they really do because it is truly an instruction booklet. >> and if i said to you, aaron, here is 55 pages. read it once, and then go to not the car, go put together the piece of furniture, go do anything that you allen wrench yes. >> you would say it was insane and yet not to give him that.
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so they can look through it and answer their own questions. they have about the instructions. just makes no sense to me and i think it is again sort of grounds for an appeal with the conviction because the state can appeal over acquittal. but if there's a conviction more grounds for appeal, i noticed the law or the protocol new york, but it just makes so little sense to not give them something which is seven instructed. and also so confusing to clear up that confusion before they make a mistake. >> i liked the furniture assembly analogy because i'm having put together certain ikea items. i can i i think everybody can now actually did in case you i'd successor broken part. >> but but ryan so where about when you look at the requests that came out today where do you sort of when you take a step back? and obviously maybe the jury at themselves don't know. but where do you think this leads? >> i think the prosecution probably thinks they've are having a good day and the main reason is that in the closing statement, the strongest argument that todd blanche has is michael cohen is not
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credible and without his testimony at this thing is over the four questions suggest that have passed that hurdle. they're asking about cohen's testimony whether or not corroborated by pecker's testimony, they're asking about pecker taking the call. they're asking about pecker's arrangement with mcdougal hush money payment they've seems like they're not being hung up by that because otherwise it could be game over one final question, tara, you i was just watching trump today and he was very engaged during tapping his lawyers back-and-forth back-and-forth. >> did you notice anything about him today? yes. >> actually, i did when he left today at the very end of the day, he seemed deflated. >> he is looking at at the audience, but he looked at his son and donald junior actually looked back and one of the things i noticed, it looked as though donald junior was saying, are you okay? because they did look really down and really deflated. now, maybe earlier he had more energy, but i think by the time all of it was said and done and he was sent to the other room while he waited to see if there were
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going to be any questions, he seemed very deflate. >> not so interesting. and that exchange between him and his son. thank you all very much. i appreciate it. uh, next we do have breaking news. kristen holmes has new reporting tonight on what trump's team plans to do if trump is convicted. so kristen, next with this breaking news bus for free for justice, samuel alito, in an extremely rare move, you went and wrote an entire letter to congress to say that he will not recuse himself from cases diet tied to january and doubling down with great detail about why we all his wife's fault for flying the flag. and putin putting the united states on notice after the biden administration suggests it may give you crane to go ahead to use american weapons to strike deep inside russia russia is we're trying to spy on us we were spying on them saudi friday this is a war, but secret war roots in spies, a
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former president are telling, our kristen holmes how trump plants to respond to a possible conviction in this case. and kristen is out front now, so christian, what are you learning about what they're thinking, how they're discussing this, what their plans are well everyone i'm talking to these senior advisers. they believe they've really been spinning this trial from long before it even started to prepare for a potential conviction. they have been calling this election interference you have seen donald trump and a number of his allies calling this rigged on the airwaves on social media, saying that this is about president joe biden, which obviously it is an office was brought by the state of new york for can attacking de a alvin bragg saying that he should have never actually brought this case. we saw a little bit of a preview of how they're going to respond if he is potentially convicted, just moments ago, chris lacivita and susie wiles, the two heads of the trump campaign putting out a memo outlining that because essentially they have said that this trial is quote, unquote, rigged, that they don't believe that it's going to impact the election in
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november, and i've talked to a number of senior advisers who say they actually do believe that to be the case, it might move the numbers a little bit, but all within the margin of error and they don't think it's going to impact the former president when it comes time for them to cast their ballots are voters to cast their ballots. now, one thing i want to point out is all we are talking about a potential conviction and we know that they are bracing for their preparing for it. they are also still holding out some hope that there is a hung jury earlier today all around trump's orbit. they were circulating the voting data from 2020, essentially that breaks down the percentage or number of votes that biden got vs trump. but if you look get that dot data, it would suggest that out of 12 manhattan residents or citizens that there will be at least one republican leaning voter. now that because they believe this is completely we political gives them some hope that that jury might have one person who would be sympathetic to former president donald trump. but of course, keep in mind erin, this
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is all reading tea leaves. they have absolutely no idea. they are just hoping for the best right now yeah, absolutely. all right. kristin, thank you very much. >> and i want to go out for nauta, someone who knows district attorney alvin bragg very well. >> terry gerstein's is bags close friend. she also worked with them as a prosecutor in the new york attorney general's office and terry, it's good to see you again, so so you hear christians reporting and what trump's gonna do. and of course, going after bragg he's been in the room. >> he was in there for closing and obviously for much of the case as we were there, he really was i think only there one other time, so he really left this to sign glass and his team in terms of the day in and day out. >> but how ready do you think he is for trump's response? >> well, i think that that kind of statement is something that trump has been saying all along. and i think the position that this is political is just belied by the facts in this case. there were 20 witnesses, there were mountains of evidence, a ton of documentary evidence. when de a bragg ran for office, he ran saying that
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he was going to put an end to two systems of justice. one for wealthy and powerful people, and one for everyone else. and really given this amount of documentary evidence and witness testimony to not bring the case would have been political so all that being said, it's been what just over more than two years since bragg was sworn in as da. >> but it's been over a year since he charged trump. >> and i know he has been doing a lot of other things. he's focused on guns, he's been doing a lot of other things but losing this case would have serious implications. >> this is in the public eye what he has come to stand for in many senses, how prepared is he for the possibility that he does not win? >> well, he's a really experienced lawyer. he was a federal prosecutor. he was a state prosecutor he knows what the legal standard is as all of us do, right? it's beyond a reasonable well doubt and you have to have unanimity of the jury. so i think that he is like anyone he knows that even if you have an extremely strong case, it can go it doesn't
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necessarily mean that you get a conviction as you point out, and he's been doing this for many years in different capacities, right? >> but here we are the stories more than four hours then they're clearly don't seem to be close at all. they're asking for the instructions again, they're chronologically asking for information from the very beginning. so that may not mean that they're not done, but it may signal this is gonna go awhile what's he doing do during this time, during the deliberations so my best guess is that he's working he's not someone who'd be pacing or watching tv. >> he's like very, very very hard working. >> he was always stayed at the office really late. >> the office right now, the mass the manhattan da's office has 30,000 plus cases. they announced indictments just this past month of landlords, and they had a plea of employer for wage theft. so there's a lot of work that they're doing in the office apart from this one case, right? >> 30,000 cases. i mean, that's an important number.
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>> now, when it comes to, were talking about christians reporting on what trump's team is thinking. >> trump himself because of the gag order does not preclude him from personal attacks. against bragg or more sean has done both in plenitude and here's just some of the things over the past few weeks during the trial that he said about bragg alvin bragg does nothing. >> he goes you have to guys like trump did nothing wrong. fat alvin corrupt guy he's a corrupt and really a corrupt or dropped district attorney who's allowed prime to the city to go totally unchecked that just the tip of the iceberg in a sense, it after this trial ends, i mean, are you concerned about that well, i mean, in terms of concerns about public safety prosecutors routinely bring cases involving people accused of murder are all kinds of violent crimes. so i think that in terms of public safety, i'm sure that de a bragg and his team are really aware of keeping him safe,
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keeping everyone in the office safe the kind of personal insults that's par for the course in terms of the actual facts, crime in manhattan is actually down considerably since de bragg took office a couple of years ago all right. >> well, i appreciate your time today. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> all right. next in a rare letter, justice samuel alito refusing to recuse himself from to january 6, cases after that far-right flag we've seen flying. i just home. i'm going to speak to congressman jamie raskin next because he says he has a way that you would be able to force a leader to step aside. so he'll share that and police in new york on alert over fears that isis maybe plotting to attack what's being called the super bowl on steroids we got ourselves a bad man right here we've talked enough in these territories
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january 6, show bias. >> now, alito says that his wife flew those flags without his awareness and actually in the case of the inverted american flag, which was sort of a standard bearer for the january 6 crowd. he says his wife actually refused for several days to take it down after he asked her to he wrote to congress and part of that quote, my wife is fond of flying flags. >> i am not. >> my wife was solely responsible for having flag poles put up at our residents and our vacation home and his flowing a wide variety of flags over the years okay. out front. now, democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland, top democrat on the house oversight committee, also a lawyer and a former constitutional law professor, right? it he's written an op-ed arguing that there is a way to force alito to recuse himself from january 6, cases and. congressman, i so much appreciate your time and obviously, i want to get to your op-ed that's the heart of this. >> but first, i just as i was reading that, i don't know if my reaction was a parents anyone watching, but my wife is fond of flying flags and he asked her for several days to take it down and she didn't
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what's your reaction to that he's written a letter to congress essentially tripling down on its all his wife's fall well, the aba ethics rules governing recusal, which have been embraced by the supreme court in decisions relating to judicial recusal, specify that justices must pay attention both to the reality and the appearance of their spouses. potential financial and personal conflicts of interests, as well as their own. so even if it were true and one can obviously doubt it, that he didn't realize that they had one inverted american flag in another flag that was embraced by the anti biden opposition and the trump insurrectionist movement. even if you didn't know anything about it, he would still have to essentially be concerned about his wife's activities as well. and that's in the aba rules of judicial recusal. >> the right. and it's important as you lay it out,
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i'll just emphasize again for everybody that the upside down flag he has admitted but he knew about any new what at stanford he asked her to remove it and she wouldn't. so it's not even that he can say i didn't even know in that case he's admitted to that. >> but but on this recusal issue and you go through the aba standards, but usually there's a way actually, congressman in the constitution and federal law to force alito to recuse himself in these cases. >> what is it so there are several cases that i talk about in this op-ed the supreme court considers this matter of ethics, not just this discrete and esoteric field. >> this is constitutional, it goes right to the right of due process. the supreme court has struck look down cases where there were judges who were ruling who should not have been ruling because they considered it a violation of due process for them to be sitting in the chair. so if you look at the cape bird in case, for example, out of west virginia, there you
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had a party before a judge and that party had spent $3 million in getting the judge elected. and although unlike this case, you couldn't even find bias that was expressed by the judge. the court said the objective circumstances required recusal in that case because the parson alignment was so clear between the judge in-between the party in the case and so there are other cases like that, but this one is clearer than any of them really where you get a judge and or his wife basically wearing their political heart on their sleeve? yeah. what does that say to the parties before them? >> well, it also seems at the very least it just the perception of it right you would hope the supreme court justices would, would care so deeply about that. and to preserve institutions in this country, especially at a time when they're under such assault that that he may come to a different conclusion, but he got he says actually
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congressman in his letter, quote, any reasonable person he says, who is not motivated by politics? or again, i quote, or a desire to affect the outcome of the supreme court cases. any reasonable person would conclude he doesn't need to recuse himself. >> what do you say to that? >> well, it's interesting he uses that language because any reasonable person is basically the standard that's used in terms of recusal. the supreme court says, it's not a subjective test. alito and thomas, who's involved arguably in an even more complicit as situation in terms of his wife's play political activities, but they seem to think that it's up to them. they can decide for themselves. but what the supreme court has said is that this is an objective test, not a question of subjective introspection. and will on the part of the particular judge in any reasonable person would look at this situation and say, these judges at the very least have a deep appearance of bias in these cases and if you look at
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the pennsylvania case which i discussed, that the supreme court decided there again, the court said it's not a subjective test. it's an objective test. and then in looking at it, there are a whole series of criteria that are borrowed from the aba and then they also said, finally that it's not enough to say, well, it's just one justice out of nine because it's not just their vote, which would be unethically unconstitutionally cast. it's their ability to influence the other justices as well, which is so problematic, right? >> course as you point out as ripple effect congressman, thank you so much. i appreciate your time you've got. all right. >> next to massive security presence in new york tonight, as fears are growing that isis k maybe plotting to attack a major global sports competition. >> and we also tonight of a special report on putin's war in ukraine. and here's the truth. >> it may actually be now giving america's military a
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threat from isis, the terror group posting an image referencing a stadium on long island and the j. the date of june 9. that is when the cricket world cup is underway. now this is a massive global event, matches over 11 days, a stadium that holds 34,000 people. and now local police are responding when you gotta game and a crowd as big as this, everything is credible i'll probably now, john miller, our chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst, and john. >> so i mean, cricket obviously people in the us may not be as familiar with it. some people, but around the world, nothing is, is bigger, right? this is a massive event, 34,000 people fitting in the stadium over 11 days, people flying in from all over the world so what are you learning? >> well, the threats against this from isis and isis khorasan. and remember for context, isis has been severely degraded since the us and its partners have been warring
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against them but isis cortisone has held on through this, which is the group that does their external attacks and what have they done? the attack in iran at general sulla, many's memorial service. the attack against the shopping mall in moscow, where the mall burned down. and so many were killed. so when they are in the threat business, that's something that pat ryder or the police commissioner of nassau county take seriously. we saw the first threats come in an april, but the one that showed the stadium with imagery of drones flying over it that came in yesterday with additional information has really caught their attention, and i will also say when you point out the moscow attack that was an attack that the united states had gotten word. i've had warned up putin about, and they ignored that warning. but the point is, the warning was real no warning then press it and it was a specific even that it could happen in that place. so the mornings warnings can be very well so you're also talking to your sources. i know about preparations for the moment the verdict is announced. and down downtown,
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absolutely verboten, but it has totally changed now, france, germany, poland all have dropped that restriction for the first time today antony blinken, these us secretary of state, signal that the united states could join them. and it comes as a us, of course, is ramping up weapons deliveries to ukraine here's the thing about that. it's actually giving the us military a major boost and oren liebermann has this story that you'll see first here out front just outside dallas, texas test rounds of artillery ammunition are rolling off a new us production line. the goal of the us is to produce 100,000 155 millimeter artillery shells like these a month by the end of next year. this facility alone, when it's at full capacity and up and running within the next 12 months. will make nearly third of that 30,000 shells a month. the us has committed more than $51 billion in security aid to ukraine since the start of the war, the weapons go to ukraine, but the vast majority of the money comes right back into the us and manufacturing
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facilities, jobs, and production. >> i think what we've seen from the lessons learned in ukraine is that all of us, the united states, are nato allies, need more munitions, we need bigger stockpiles. conflicts can be more drawn out than we thought. >> and when one weapon from us inventories goes to ukraine another newer weapon takes its place bradley infantry fighting vehicles sent into the thick of the flight will be replaced by the latest models of the armed and armored systems, counter-battery radars. ukraine has used to defend against incoming fire will make way for newer radar systems. and atacms missiles that ukraine has used a strike deep within occupied territory are to be replaced with advanced longer-range precision strike missiles. as we send weapons to ukraine, the us replaces them with either newer variance or newer system it is a way of modernizing the us military. >> that's right. i like to say we're not going to replace old with old. we're going to replace old with new. we are mild i don't ising through the
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support that we're giving to the ukrainians to feed the kremlin's war president vladimir putin has placed russia's economy at a full war-time footing, trying to outproducing the west. and what is becoming a grinding war of attrition russia spends nearly 7% of its gdp on defense with plans to go even higher. far more than the us or any western nation, even if russian weapons or lower quality, an old military adage says that quantity has a quality of its own. when russia burn through its own supply of artillery ammo to quickly north korea sent millions of rounds that made their way to the front lines. iranian shah had drones have expanded an already deadly russian arsenal and the kremlin wants more us effort to produce weapons at the speed of war took precious time. close the gap for years, the us relied on decades old plans like this one in scranton, pennsylvania to make artillery rounds. a world war ii era defense industrial base. it's suddenly felt far
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short. >> this new artillery plant as part of a surge and weapons production that isn't done yet. >> the pressure on the us to supply ukraine's military as it modernizes its own it took two years from start to finish to bring us here. and now we're just in the process of building that the munition stockpile that we need not only please to help our allies in europe and elsewhere, but to deter countries like china and iran, and north korea it's not just artillery, ammunition that's being ramped up in terms of its production, the us also has a goal of producing 650 patriot missiles a year up from only 100 now and aaron, these are for absolutely weapons and demand, not only by ukraine, but by others. >> it very much reminds me of what fdr one's called the arsenal of democracy. >> all right, oren, thank you very much. it's really incredible. you think about that 650 patriots had been 100. think about part of this war that many were not aware of. >> oren. thank you so much there on the ground in texas
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turn deliberating. he has been there. eric's been there times. i've been in the courtroom. eric's been there, tiffany trump, spin they're all sitting in the front row during closing arguments and other days they've been there but there's one glaring absence that when you talk about them, then that is ivanka jason carroll is outfront here today as donald trump's children speaking out for their father on this critical week of closing arguments and jury deliberations in his criminal trial. >> forget about politics for a second. i've been in that board house on my father almost every single day. >> it is an insanity. it is an embarrassment. it's an abomination to democracy and to our republic. and yet it continues tiffany trump joined
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her brother's for the first time outside court tuesday, but missing from the public sibling show of support. ivanka trump, and you'll be vindicated. >> you thank you very much. >> if no response to shouted questions about whether their sister, ivanka to date has not shown up to court, was planning on making an appearance. her husband chair kushner, has also been absent pretrial in march. the couple and the former president spotted at a ufc event in miami over the last seven weeks since the trial started, various instagram post showed a couple in places such as miami and mexico, often with their children. their absence may be notable, given both were familiar faces during trump's first presidential campaign, and both became presidential advisers in trump's white house. but back in 2022, trump made it clear she didn't plan to be as involved in this this campaign, saying, i loved my father very much this time around, i am choosing to
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prioritize my young children and the private life we are creating as a family. i do not plan to be involved in politics. >> trump's children are school age and a source now telling cnn, she has concerns about them now being old enough to understand what's happening and their grandfathers criminal trial and she's not the only high-profile trump missing from corp where the former first lady, melania trump also a no-show during the criminal trial, perhaps no surprise, given the sorted accusations. >> as for ivanka trump since her own father and siblings have repeatedly pushed the narrative that this is not a case about seeking justice, is this is political lawfare in an absolutely has to stop. >> so if it's politics at play, trump has said she wants no part of it, saying, well, i will always love and support my father going forward. i will do so out sayyed, the political arena and a source telling cnn that both ivanka and jared have
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