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made using no new plastic we'll be seeing more of these bottles in more places. >> and when we get more of them back we can use less new plastic bottles are made to be remade erin burnett outfront. >> next on cnn rigueur news, and nationwide at&t outage as once again leaving customers without service in a statement to cnn, at&t acknowledged many of its users are having trouble completing calls between in carriers, although the company says calls between at&t customers are still going through the outage by the way, comes less than four months after a massive disruption knocked out service on the at&t network for nearly 12 hours, leaving millions unable to make phone calls and texts reach emergency services or access the internet. i hope they fix this to our viewers. >> thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. i'll see you tomorrow, 11:00 a.m.
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eastern for cnn newsroom. erin burnett outfront >> front starts right now i'd front next attorney general merrick garland and republicans go head-to-head, flashing over trump's conspiracy theories, including the former president's baseless claim that the fbi was trying to assassinate hey, do plus breaking news, we are now just hours away from the us mexico border closing after biden issued strict new border rules but why now we're live at the border and hunter biden's laptop and his own words taking center stage in court today. >> let's go out front and, good evening. >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight i will not be intimidated. those are the exact words of attorney general merrick garland, who came under withering fire from republicans today. >> these repeated attacks on the justice department are
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unprecedented, and they are unfounded. i will not be intimidated. and the justice department, they'll not be intimidated. we will continue to work, do our jobs free from political influence and we will not back down from defending democracy they usually mild mannered garland, standing firm for five hours as he was confronted with one conspiracy theory after the next everyone designed to show garland and president biden trying to use the doj to take down trump conspiracy theory. >> one, trump's claims that garland and biden were in cahoots with the manhattan da's office? about this in the hush money trial for trump, garland, of course, would have none of that we do not control the matan manhattan district attorney and the fact of the matter is that in 2018, federal prosecutors with the doj declined to file charges against trump that decision in
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part because of the lingering concerns about michael cohen's credibility as a witness. >> then came conspiracy theory number to trump's claims that the department of justice was trying to assassinate him during the fbi rate at mar-a-lago again, garland would have none of that i'm just saying that the allegation is not true firm, but calm words. and the allegation is not true. in fact, the language in the documents related to the 2022 search of mar-a-lago it standard and directly from the department manual, it's just paint with just every single case former fbi deputy operations chief robbed emiko told us that the language included his quotes, standard language for every single operation bar none. with trump saying is just a disinformation campaign highlighting it for people who don't know but tonight, trump and his allies are turning up the volume on a disinformation campaign to disparage the attorney general merrick garland, and to
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disparage the investigations into the former president, katelyn polantz is outfront live in washington to begin our coverage tonight. and caitlin, i mean, this was a five-hour intense hearing. garland standing firm, but one of the key reasons since he was there is because republicans want him to release audio of biden's interview with special counsel in the classified documents case. and so far we've got a transcript from the doj that's it. no audio. and i know to begin, you've got some new reporting on this tonight. >> yeah. aaron. right now, there is a fight on capitol hill today between merrick garland, the attorney general, and the republicans who want this audio tape of joe biden sitting down for this interview over two days with special counsel robert hur, about the classified documents he had in his possession ended up not being charged, but that's not where that fight is. on its own. it also exists in court. there are more than a dozen media organizations as well as to write leaning groups the heritage foundation and judicial watch, who are suing
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for that tape as well. and the justice department has had to explain in court, just like merrick garland was explaining today. hey there reasons for not wanting to hand over this tape. they say that there are privacy reasons. some of those things include that it's very stressful for someone to sit for an interview. and if they want white house officials to cooperate with them in the future for future, just farm and investigations they need to offer them some level of privacy protection. also, executive privilege, which merrick garland and the president apparently discussed. garland advised, yes, you could assert privilege and the president did over this tape. here's a little bit more about how america arlen explained to congress today something he has also echoing in court is it your testimony that a white house official would voluntarily cooperate and criminal investigation only if the justice department promises not to release the audio
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recordings. >> it doesn't make any sense the longtime experience so that justice department has also reflected in the declaration and that was filed under oath is that witnesses want to protect the confidentiality of their communications with the prosecutors during these sensitive interviews so aaron, that audio tape recording of biden sitting for the interview with special counsel robert hur. >> it is still classified according to the justice department. it's still in a secured facility, protected, and it's ultimately going to be up to very likely the court's on whether it will be released publicly in some way all right. >> kaelyn, poland's thank you very much. and obviously that recording central to this hearing today out front now, democratic congressman dan goldman, former assistant us attorney in the southern district of new york, which of course is part of the doj. so dan, i really appreciate your time and congressman, i want to get to caitlin reported according in just a moment about the tape. but first, just what we saw today, the attorney
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general garland was defiant. he said, i will not be intimidated. do you think that's what this hearing was about republicans trying to intimidate him republicans have been trying to intimidate merrick garland and the department of justice for this entire congress, they created an entire subcommittee called the weaponization of the federal government. >> so they could weaponize congress in order to undermine the rule of law, undermine democracy, and undermine most importantly, every single investigation now prosecution against donald trump, that's all this is about this is the republicans doing the bidding and the dirty work for donald trump they don't like the prosecutions against donald trump, but they have no problem about prosecutions against anyone else, including democrats, including hunter biden. it is hip-hop chrissy at its zenith and this was all that it's about and has been all that it's about this entire congress. >> and of course, just to put an emphasis on one thing you said there it is. of course,
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present biden's doj, which is currently bringing a case against hunter biden. so important to note in that context, i want to play something today, congressman, that happened between attorney general general garden, guard, garland, and the chairman of the judiciary committee, jim jordan. and so in this exchange, they're talking about jack smith, who obviously is the special counsel prosecuting the two federal cases against trump. and here's part of their exchange did he ask for the job this is not a job. >> i don't think anybody asks for. it's not that sorry. but that's not the question i asked you. i said, did jack smith asieh, i'm not asked me for the job? no. >> did did he convey through someone else that he wanted the job? >> i would be surprised if that were the case. but what you don't know? no, i don't know so he may have i can only tell you what i know. i chose him because he had a record of impartial career experience as a prosecutor. that's why he was chosen so that entire line of
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questioning was obviously to make it look like jack smith. jack smith had lobbied for the job and was given it as some part of some conspiracy to take down trump. congressman. >> what was the real purpose of this hearing? >> well look i sensibly the purposes that the judiciary committee is supposed to do oversight of the department of justice and the department of justice makes its budgetary requests through the judiciary committee. but of course, that's not what jim jordan and the republicans want to use it for. the purpose of this hearing as it is with just about everything related to the department of justice is to undermine the confidence in the department of justice in the fbi. to undermine the rule of law because donald trump has been charged with multiple different crimes in multiple different courts. that's the only reason that the republicans object to anything going on in merrick garland's department of justice or in the
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manhattan da's office, or in the atlanta, georgia da's office. and don't forget aaron. this the arguments you start hearing about the manhattan da trial that this is somehow politicized, that michael cohen is a terrible witness, that michael cohen was the reason the southern district of new york didn't charge donald trump the fact of the matter is like our constitution requires and allows for donald trump's lawyer had three days to cross-examine michael cohen. he had ample opportunity to show that he was a non credible witness. the jury heard it. the jury heard all the other evidence, consider all the other evidence, and decided unanimously that he was guilty. this is how our criminal justice system works, and merrick garland is operating department of justice in the true true, timeless fashion that our democratic values have been founded upon. >> and, and also to add to
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that, of course, the doj did not bring that case. that they had nothing to do with that case was of course, brought by the manhattan da. i want to ask you what katelyn about caitlin is reporting a congressman oh, and that is about this audio tape. republicans are focused on the audio tape of biden's interview with special counsel in his classified documents case. media, organizations want this audio as well, including my own. here's one exchange where the republican congressman dan bishop tells garland that he thinks the audio is important because it will let people here biden's presentation. he's nar and evaluate his mental capacity. bench for decades you know what demeanor evidence? >> i know what demeanor evidence is and i've not been shown any reason why audio evidence of demeanor would make a difference in any legislative purpose. and that's exactly what demeanor evidence is, sir, witnessing observing a witness as they testify, and what can
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be done by this committee is to observe the audio recording of the president testifying to see whether it comports with the transcript or whether reveals things about his capacity or his veracity or anything else that comes from his demeanor as he as he is interviewed congressman, do you think the audio should be released absolutely not. >> it is a preposterous proposition to say that congress has some legitimate legislative purpose to obtain the audio when it has the substance of the interview in transcript ripped form. >> they cannot enumerate any reason for congress not necessarily the media, which is a separate issue, or the special counsel who obviously had the audio and was the one who was evaluating his demeanor to make the decision the prosecutor and he had concerned
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about he had concern about the press president's mental capacity so that's why people want to see. i mean, your democratic colleague in the senate, mark warner, just told the associated press, i quote him, you've got to release the audio no there's there's no legal basis to release the audio the department of justice is absolutely correct. >> now, remember aaron joe biden voluntarily sat for five hours of an interview that is in direct contrast to donald trump, who refuse to sit for an interview with special counsel muller and then he submitted written answers to questions and was known was asserted to be false and obstructed. justice because he lied in his written answers. so when the attorney general says, we want to encourage people to voluntarily cooperate if congress is going to get a whole hold of these videotapes. so that donald trump can use them as part of his campaign because that's really the only reason they want it, because they cannot establish a
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legitimate basis. >> just one final go in the reason everyone's asking for it, i think from the media perspective in the american public is because special counsel, her concluded that there were issues with biden's memory right? >> i mean, that's the reason is that actually, counsel her well, special counsel, hur said that he also said in the course of the interview that president biden has a photographic memory and ultimately you have the transcript. >> so if you have issues with his memory or with what he said, you have the trends, have you have the substance of it? the only reason for the audio is for political partisan purposes to help donald trump. >> all right, what congressman goldmann, i appreciate your time and thank you for the conversation thank you. next, we have breaking news. president biden's new immigration crackdown is about to take effect so shutting down the southern us border at midnight. >> but why now? >> plus the jury in hunter
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dash.com and see how much you can save i'm more, liebermann at the pentagon. >> and this cnn breaking news and just a few hours, much of america's nearly 2000 mile border with mexico will close. close. >> it is a dramatic move by president biden, who has just rolled out a new border policy already.
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>> there is bipartisan backlash why didn't you do this in 2021? why didn't you do this in 2022? why don't you do this in 2023? why don't you do this last month or the month before? it is extremely disappointing that this white house would choose to double down on the previous administrations harmful and flawed immigration policies from both sides. >> now biden says that he is taking action because the republican party refused to act i'm moving past republican instruction. usually the executive authority is available me as president to do what i can on my own. to address the border now it has been 118 days since the senate kill the bipartisan border bill that's what he's referring to. >> a bill that would have been the strictest border legislation in decades. >> and it was a deal made by one of the most conservative members of congress and democrats. that bill, of course they'll never made it out of the senate. the blocks, because donald trump and republicans
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sayyed it was bad for them politically but there's been a cost to waiting to close the border from then. there have been at least 406,000 crossings at the us border since that bill failed, stretching resources and cities across this nation. and it is why this has become a major concern among voters. now they're just five months to go until the election. so biden is now taking action despite previously saying that his hands were tied, that he he couldn't do anything via executive order and that he needed congress to do it all. the power that day. i got it off well tonight biden says he has the power and he's giving himself the power to shut the border. let's begin our coverage with rosa flores. she is outfront tonight at the southern border president joe biden announcing his toughest immigration policy, an executive order barring asylum when daily migrant apprehensions at the us southern border hit a seven-day average of 2,500. >> a move that could result in the deportation of some
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migrants in a matter of days, even hours. >> they choose to come without permission and against the law there'll be restricted from receiving asylum and staying in the united states. >> the measure clamps down on unlawful crossings between ports of entry. and we'll take effect at midnight since migrant apprehensions at the us southern border are now about 4,000 per day. biden appearing to take a page from former president donald trump's hardline immigration playbook. trump tried implementing a similar policy in 2018, the aclu led the challenge that caused courts to strike it down and says it plans to sue the biden administration two, we do not believe that any provision whether it's 212 f, or any other provision allows an administration to shut down the asylum system. biden administration officials defended the executive order, saying it includes humanitarian exceptions for unaccompanied migrant children, for some medical emergencies and for victims of severe human trafficking. the timing of the announcement, the number of migrant apprehensions right now
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is very low, extremely low, raising eyebrows among advocates like sister norma pimentel, because migrant apprehensions on the us southern border have plummeted from nearly 250,000 in december to about 120,000 and may a source familiar with the data told cnn, so why do this i would think is because of the fact that we're having an election very soon. >> and if he doesn't show a different uptick picture than they have their lucy. >> the appearance strategy by the biden administration, pointing the finger back at republicans who failed to support the senate's bipartisan border bill that republicans and fired right back saying it's too little too late. >> joe biden with a pen could fix the problems that he created any chooses not to. he doesn't want to fix the problem. >> caught in the middle of this political battle playing out on the border. >> they live he says that during his journey, he saw all sides those of life from
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newborns to the elderly, to people who died along the way migrants i could have hired from venezuela who wants to go only by his first name for fear, it could impact his case. do you think migrants are going to go back to their country? in an aaron, would that migrainous saying in essence is that he believes that biden's border policies going to work, that migrants are going to return turn back to their home countries. but i can tell you from the years that i've spent covering the border and talking to migrants, i usual here that they've been persecuted, that they've lost everything, and that's why they've come to the united states and that their country is in shambles. take venezuela. >> so it's very difficult to believe that that would be the case, but you know what history will tell us, erin and what i can tell you based on my experience is that usually when law enforcement is enhanced on the border, migrants use riskier measures to cross switch usually means more
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deaths rosa, thank you very much. on the border tonight and out front now, the mayor of the radio texas, victor trevino, he met with the president earlier. >> he was at the white house four biden's immigration announcement, america vena, i'm so glad to be speaking with you again and obviously a very significant day. biden signing this order that would immediately cut southern border crossings by a third, is this a game changer as you see at mare? >> yes, it isn't. thank you very much for having us. it's a matter of fact, de we were invited to the white house by the president so he could discuss the executive order that he did regarding asylum seekers, basically saying that asylum seekers that cross illegal inter country we will not be eligible. and asylum seekers can actually get on the app thing, get, get their asylum appointments do. but the other thing is that if that
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number of asylum seekers gets to 2,500, that was put up parson to asylum seekers. the other thing is that once it gets down to 1,500, then he will reactivate the application for asylum seekers. >> do you think as laredo is the largest port of entry into the united states, do you think that this announcement is actually backed up by what it needs to be backed up by border patrol law enforcement whatever is needed to actually hold these numbers down yes, it is because once immigrants or migrants know that if they cross illegally, there will not be a little for asylum that would put a decrease in and these people coming in. >> and the other thing is that word gets around and the people that transfer them to the border, we also find out, and that'll be one of the things that i think will cut the amount of people coming in to our country. >> so us border patrol mirror trevino says there had been
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nearly 7 million encounters at the southern border since president biden took office nearly 7 million are you worried about the long-term impact on the country at large because you see it from the very starting point. but for the country at large of nearly 7 million border encounters since biden took office there's the country even know the magnitude of what's really happened well, we that live in work at the border do see that impact and we know that there has to be steps to improve immigration reform. >> and i think this is a first step to do so. there's a lot of other things that have to go into playing immigration reform. and that is because the laws are so antiquated, they'd been antiquated forward 20 years. so we need to focus on reform and that i think would be more impactful situation. >> so what happens tomorrow in laredo? >> well, what happens tomorrow
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in laredo if people that are coming in illegally applied for asylum, there will be returned back to mexico with a denial for asylum. and this will give the message to other people that if they really seeking asylum, they have to apply by through the after cbp app or go directly to the offices of cbp on crossing on the ports of entry. >> all right. montmartre venue. i appreciate your time. thanks so much. i'm glad to talk to you again. >> thank you. thank you for having so as a midnight, you come in, turned away, sent back to mexico, denied asylum. i want to bring in ron brown seen are senior political analyst and van jones, political commentator. and of course the former special advisor to president obama. all right, so glad to have you here to talk about this. braun this is consistently one of the topics if not the top issues as americans rank them, of what they care about for the election biden consistently pulls far below trump on the issue of immigration. but you just heard a lot of presley,
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even from the left of his own party. he's being slammed for this. is this going to help them? >> i think it will actually some immigration public opinion tends to move in the opposite direction from immigration policy. that's my experience reading about this since the early 1990s when republicans are in, when trump was in, there was pretty broad resistance to a lot of the hard-line measures that he pursued. separation, obviously, of kids and their parents at the border what are remain in mexico under biden, there's a broad sense that it's too tolerant. and there is now much more support for many of the harsher things that trump wanted to do. i don't think biden can close that gap. yeah, entirely in given all it's happened in the last few years, but i do think that adopting this, which was the sharpest tool in the armory murray of that bipartisan senate bill gives him more ground to stand on to say, look, i'm taking reasonable steps to secure the border and this allows him i think also a stronger position to criticize some of the things that trump wants to do in a second term. circularly, mass
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deportation, mostly what does, especially with this is obviously not targeted as the base of his party. >> it's targeted at moderate city needs to win, but van, while biden says he's doing this because republicans wouldn't, as i pointed out, there's been more than 400,000 people cross the border since that bipartisan bill failed 200,000 migrants have come into new york city since the spring of 20,020 of 2020 to 200,000 van i mean, i'm just curious and as i said, nearly seven millions since he's taken office, do you think they and that people are going to see this the way biden wants them to, or are they going to say, look, all these people come in and came in under biden's leadership and he owns that 7 million it's hard to know how the public is going to see it. but i think now he's being accused of playing politics with immigration when the problem is that the republicans have been playing politics with immigration. the last thing biden wanted to do was to move on his own and to use executive authority that the courts have raised an eyebrow, add biden not somebody who likes to do executive orders that he thinks the courts aren't going to
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approve. that's why he waited so long. the reality as republicans have a strategy here, they scream fire at the border. they spread the fire around by his shipping migrants all over to blue cities and then when somebody tries to bring a fire firehose, like biden, they step on the firehose. they don't let congress act. and so he's got a little pail of water on his desk. he's trying to throw it on the fire because that's all that's left to him. but this republicans who should own this last chunk because republicans had a chance to do something. they had a chance to solve the problem. they wouldn't even support their own bill. they would rather hurt biden and help the country. and that's the real problem here. that's real politics run the when you look at democrats, i mean, you've got some that are happy to biden's doing this. but you have some who are slamming it. in fact, for what you say, because they're saying, oh, it's like trump did and they actually aren't okay with adam. and here's just two today no i'm disappointed that the president has sort of gone into the same frame as donald trump at a very time when we need to make a distinction
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between donald trump and joe biden votes appointed if no attempt to return to the same policy, them approve it to fail and the feb administration they're going to not vote for him now, right? well, from the point of that biden ministration, the fact that ruben gallego, who is running starts from the left, but is running for senate in arizona, supported this r. >> kelly loudly supported, but it's probably more telling what biden has tried to do on immigration without a lot of success is basically say, we are going to expand legal pathways and we are going to try to shut off the illegal pathways to try to steer people that direction. in fact, even in this, even in this plan, 1,500 people a day can still come in under that cbp. one app that the mayor was talking about, the best thing biden has going for him and holding the left on immigration is that trump is serious about pursuing a larger scale deportation than we have ever seen in american history. and the question of
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whether moving to the center at the border will drive away people if they know the alternative is deporting up to 1 million or more people a year. i think biden has more room on the left and it might seem and van when are we going to know what people think? >> well, i mean, we'll see you in the polling data, but i also want to point out that you have mayors, like the mayor of denver, democratic mayor denver democratic mayor, chicago, democratic mayor of new york, saying week just can't handle it. yes, just too much. and so it's you have you ever revolt inside the democratic party? that's mainly revolting of the center saying, we'd literally cannot 15 a house democrats saying, we can't take anymore everybody's got a number that's too many crossing the border. some it's one, some it's 1 billion. but that number has been crossed. the democratic party, it certainly has. and as i said again, maybe biggest at home, 200,000 migrants to new york city just in these past two years thank you both very much. a next incredible new details from inside the hunter biden courtroom today.
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to three the 21321. today, i'm tom foreman in washington. and this is cnn and breaking news. >> the first day of testimony, just wrapping up in hunter biden's trial prosecutors tonight showing his infamous laptop to the jury. they're at was the laptop the key piece of evidence was in court today and those included hunter biden's own words, prosecutors playing the jury more than an hour of hunter biden's audio book, where he talks and brutally honest terms about his struggles with drug use and addiction no honore among is crackheads and nashville, i was a bloodhound on the scent like everywhere else i'd butt crack i knew i could go there cold in a note time assess what highway to get on, what exit to get off at, what gas station to pull into. and what unsavory looking care character to choose. my newest most trusted associate
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want to go straight to evan perez, our senior justice correspondent and avenue were there in court today. >> so you heard all of this, you saw hunter biden react, yo >> well, to have hunter biden's voice fill that courtroom, you could see the jurors were playing playing, paying very close attention. they will taking notes, they were observing every single thing that was coming from that audio book. but prosecutors also spent hours going through a text messages, photos, video from his icloud and fbi agent was on the stand trying to explain their efforts to try to try to verify that these were indeed text messages from hunter biden where he's talking to his drug dealers, talking to people who were around him, and you saw some of the ron motion from at least one juror who was wiping away tears and seemed overcome with emotion at some
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of the explanations from some of the some of the explanations from abbe lowell, the defense attorney for hunter biden. his point here is that people who are struggling with it, with addiction have periods where they're not using drugs and you could see during a period where he was trying to get the fbi agent to acknowledge that despite all those text messages, the prosecutors do not have any evidence to show that hunter biden was using drugs on october 12, 2018 when he bought this gun, which is what we're here for and you can see this 11 juror in particular she paged through her notes and she shook her head as abbe lowell was trying to make that point. so erin, look, it's clear that the prosecutor just have a lot of evidence. it is clearly they have a strong hand to work with here, but it does happen that prosecutors overplay their hands. juries juries have their own way of dealing with things. and we'll see how this works for them. >> all right. evan, thank you very much. and ryan goodman,
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outfront legal expertise with me now. so you here, you know, he was in the courtroom today, so we heard that audio. he saw the jury's reaction to that so you also heard that him talking about the one juror who was tearing up, right? obviously, people have personal connection chins to issues like addiction. >> so how do you think that plays with the jury hearing his own words, reading a book which they could read excerpts are so excerpts, but hearing him, i think it can be very powerful. >> so just to take an example of the recent case in manhattan what the prosecutors they were able to do is actually play an audio of the defendant donald trump. that's very powerful. and to also speak about or have somebody read from donald trump's prior books. this is even better than that because the prosecutors actually have the defendant and his own voice and it sounds like therefore, an audio recording of the defendants. so it's one step below having the defendant take the stand, which prosecutors like, but they're presenting the defendant and therefore, the jury hearing him actually talk about his own addiction, which is an element of the crime, which of course, in the book is also where he admits to
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buy. that's what the whole cases hearing mr. buying the gun and the book. so i guess they're now trying to use that to show their side of the story as well evan also said he didn't mention it there, but it did say during some of the presentations a technical presentations of text messages videos, photos from the icloud from that laptop, that some of the jurors did seem to struggle to stay awake obviously, we didn't i didn't see that ever in the courtroom here in manhattan. so this is a little bit different in terms of what we're seeing here. what does that say to you? >> not good for the prosecutors. i mean, they want their jurors to be paying attention to the evidence, especially in the very first day that they're presenting evidence to the jurors. yeah. you'd want them to be paying attention if they're not if they're struggling to stay awake means they're basically not fully awake. so they're not absorbing the information. it means more of a weight is carried by the prosecutors in summation, but this is not what they want to hear, but i guess they'll have a better run at it when they have live witnesses on the stand. >> right? right. i mean, no doubt they noticed that today. two. all right. ryan, thank you very much. and harry enten joins me now to go beyond the numbers because harry ryan's talking about the reaction of that one juror that evan
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referred to, who grew emotional as abbe lowell hunter biden's attorney was talking about addiction. we know that they're jurors who said that they have dealt with that or family members who have and they are far from alone they are far from alone. two-thirds of americans, either personally or have had a familial connection to someone who has suffered from addiction from drugs or alcohol. and this is something that goes across party leinz, right? basically just as many republicans, 68% as democrats, 66% of any personal or family experience with drug or alcohol addiction. so whether or not that helps hunter biden wait and see, but that juror i think speaks for a lot of americans. >> it doesn't an incredibly bipartisan, but where do you see a number that i mean, every single group and the same obviously this trial puts president biden under the microscope. he has spoken out and saying, of course he's not going to comment on it, except for as a father, jill biden was in the courtroom yesterday, how to voters feel about president biden's role in all this. you're obviously five months to election de here. >> yeah. look, i think that they recognize joe biden try
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has been trying to fence set it right where he's saying, look, i'm not necessarily defending my son's actions by defend my son, right. >> i want to be a good father and many americans see it that way when it comes to joe biden and hunter's bind, look at this, is joe biden being a good father by supporting hunter, the clear majority of americans say, yes, if 54% know what 25%, and i think therefore this is a sign that joe biden's probably plenty this as bout as best as he can, politically speaking, will the outcome of the trial affect the race when numbers you say no, not really oh, essentially voters were asked, you know, okay. does this make you any less likely to vote for joe biden? a clear runaway answer here is no impact at 58%. yeah, 23% say less likely to vote for joe biden. but you know who those voters are, those are voters who weren't going to vote for joe biden anyway, they're overwhelmingly republicans. all right. thank you very much. >> very important context especially as you look at these back-to-back historical, historically precedent-setting trials in back-to-back weeks. well, next the head of the fbi, within alarming new warning
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next on cnn tonight, three trump allies charged and wisconsin for allegedly participating in the fake elector scheme wisconsin now the fifth state to bring charges against trump allies for trying to overturn the 2020 election. >> it comes as both campaigns see, wisconsin is vital to win the white house. i interviewed biden there last month during his most recent visit to the crucial state. and jeff zeleny has the latest tonight and our voters outfront series the past is done. let's move ahead. >> caroline quinlan has little appetite for re-litigating the past a warning for both sides as the rematch of joe biden and donald trump sets in for a summer of uncertainty both parties have their extreme sayyed and no one's in the middle. >> it's a new moment in a campaign that often feels like an old sequel. trump's trial is over the first debate is three weeks away. and here in wisconsin, the republican convention is looming when we spoke to quinlan last summer,
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she longed for a fresh start, but braced for drama. >> i think the next 15 months is going to be like a lifetime movie. it's there's going to be so much can happen on both sides, so much has happened, but it's an open question whether those history-making moments have shifted any ground or changed many minds? well, that conviction weigh in on your choice at all in november no no. >> no. it won't. unless he's right to jail, i guess, but if he's on the ticket, hizon. the ticket wisconsin as once again an essential stop on the road to the white house. >> a bellwether that went for biden in 2020 and trump in 2016. >> i think at the end of the day that back conviction last three helps present. >> i'm trump tony duker believes the felony convictions may rally publications, but he doesn't believe that alone is a path to victory. >> i think economy, which would include inflation, i think it's the barber situation. i think it's the crime situation
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all of the things that he starkly a president that was judged by in an election year. here in suburban cedar berg, where biden became the first democrat in a quarter-century to win. do duker proudly planet to trump sign and its front yard. >> i won't be intimidated in my support for president trump. >> a few blocks away. the opposing view from a republican against trump, no one was home where a flag bearing the name of jack smith, special prosecutor in the federal probe against trump, waived in the briese how much democrat should dwell on those cases is the subject of considerable hand-wringing after biden mocked trump this week as a convicted felon, i would probably say you should really get more emphasis on policy. then you should, on trashing the opponent. but there are other people that would disagree with them. >> tim, i can or as a loyal biden supporter, but believes inflation and economic challenges threatened his reelection. >> do you believe he'll win or
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do you worry he could lose? i worry he could lose democrats. he said, don't have the luxury of being too critical of biden. >> and you still have to think about what would happen if we have another term donald trump, because it's going to be worse this time. wisconsin voters will have a closer seat than most americans with trump set to accept the republican nomination next month in milwaukee, quinlan and independent said she will probably vote for trump again unless something changes. >> i didn't tell myself probably a year ago and i'm not voting for anyone over 70 well, i don't have that option anymore and this republican convention here in milwaukee will take place only one week after trump's sentencing. >> of course, he does intend to his announce his running mate, right here. as for quinlan he's holding out hope she knows it's a long-shot that nikki haley will be on the ticket with the former president, aaron.