and families? well, that's addressed this sunday night on violent earth with leave schreiber here's a preview paradise, california burned from an ember attack from a blum miles away from paradise this is like 9:00 in the morning and it's pitch black given the smoke it almost appeared as though it was the middle of the night and it was snowing ash and ember's began to rain down. we're in the middle dan here like that i don't know if it's safe anywhere the fire was moving at a football field per second. in the way it did that, of course was by jumping ahead and starting these fires they would immediately take hold and rapidly grow into hundred acre,

200 acre spotfire. >> that one happening all through town that resulted in the town starting to burn all at once, 30,000 people were trying to be evacuated while being overrun by fire. >> if i were to turn around, john ago this is bad a new episode of violent earth with leaves schreiber, air sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn hey, thank you all for watching anderson cooper 360 is next tonight on 362 candidates to worldviews and how increasingly the stark differences between them over core american principles truly are different from any other presidential race raimondo also tonight, new figures detailing just how many millions dollars in gifts supreme court justices have received over the years. and which serving justice raked in most today later in the wake of an fda panel rejecting the use of mdma ecstasy to treat

post-traumatic stress. my 60 minutes reporting on research into psychedelics treating serious mental illness. >> good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight. keep them honest with a matter of fact, not opinion know about the democratic republican candidates for president whatever else you might think of them and whoever you plan on voting for november president biden and former president trump see the world is differently one from another as any to modern-day candidates have. what's more, there are differences are not trivial. they touched on decades of bipartisan consensus about the way american democracy in foreign policy works. and lately, the contrast between the two is increasingly on display. from campaign rallies to court houses, to cable news. and today, a world war ii monument to american army rangers who fought and died on d-day 80 years ago we talk about democracy. american democracy we often talk about the ideals of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness well we don't talk about is how hard

it is how many ways we're asked to walk away, how many instincts are to walk away the most natural instinct is to walk away to be selfish to force our will upon others to seize power. never give up american democracy asieh, the hardest of things to believe. the we're part of something bigger than ourselves prison biden today at pointed to hawk in normandy saying what even a decade ago would neither have been especially remarkable nor freighted with kind of meaning it carries now, the difference is context today that perfectly unremarkable tribute to self-sacrifice landed hard on the heels of the former president. >> again, suggesting in a clip that was released last night that the entire federal justice system be deployed to avenge one individual himself well, revenge does take time. i will say that it does and sometimes revenge can be justified if i have to be honest sometimes they can there was the answer

to fill macron's attempt to do what sean hannity also failed to do the night before, namely get donald trump to stop talking so openly about seeking revenge. it hasn't worked. and just yesterday, the former president also called for members of the house january 6 committee to be indicted. reaction. it appears to his former strategist, steve bannon being ordered to prison for defying a lot awful subpoena from that committee. the same steve bannon who received a presidential pardon while being accused of bilking money from trump's supporters, claiming it would go to build a wall on the border during the final days of the trump administration. situation, president biden by contrast, just reaffirmed a commitment not to pardon his only surviving son, hunter, who is on trial on gun charges in his tribute to the army rangers today, president biden also invoked vladimir putin's aggression and nieto's joint response they stood against settlers aggression does anyone doubt does anyone doubt that they would want america to stand up against putin's aggression here in europe today? they stormed the

beaches, long sayyed, our allies does anyone believe these rangers would want america to go it alone today for more than seven decades since the end of the second world war, that by partisan answer to whether united states should go it alone in the world has always been no. >> and outside the fringes, democratic and republican support for nato has been, if not a given. and certainly the vast consensus. so in that nothing prison biden said today would even raise an eyebrow except again, by contrast one of the presidents of a big countries stood up, said well, sir, if we don't pay and were attacked by russia will you protect us? >> i said you didn't pay your delinquent he said, yes, let's say that happened no, i would not protect you. in fact, i would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want perspective now from garrett graph, his remarkable new book just out is when the sea came alive and oral history of d-day also joining us, amanda carpenter, who served as communications director for

senator ted cruz and has now editor a protect democracy, which described itself as a non-partisan, non-profit group working to prevent authoritarianism. garrett, let's start with you on how do you think prison biden did trying to kind of capture the stakes of the allied d-day invasion and the lessons that applies to you. i think you're absolutely right, but part of what is so remarkable about today is how unremarkable president biden's speech what would have been in any other context? i mean, you could have almost switched his texts with president reagan's taxed in 1984, which was the original and pointe-du-hoc speech that raised d-day from history into legend about american democracy in the fight in world war ii and the fact is though that i don't think at any major anniversary of d-day democracy has ever felt as fragile or as fraught as it does now, both home and abroad amanda prison, biden, and former president trump obviously have very different visions of america's

engagement with the world. why do you think trump's message of isolationism resonates so with republicans today, even as president biden delivers them into gerunds point, essentially the same message that ronald reagan delivered in normandy. i mean, this really starts with the disturbing trend in the american right of warming relations towards russia. i mean, that is a huge part of this. it just got to say like watching biden's speech along with it, i watch a lot of videos of the heroes wealth don't exist without strong american partnerships with those allies. and then my mind went towards, well, what does this look like if president trump had won a second term? of course, there would have been the anniversary. of course, there would've been some kind of commemoration, but would there be nato, would there be ukraine? would therapy president zelenskyy donald

trump is very clear about the direction that he wants to take the country. his closest advisers, i'm thinking of his national security adviser, john bolton said that he is very common when they came extremely close to walking away from nato during the first term in so how do we keep the traditions alive if we have a leader that is willing to walk away from that, our veterans won't be received that way. are allies in ukraine they may not, even exist. i mean, that is garrett was talking about how perilous and threatens the stakes of this field. it is because it absolutely is real yeah. garrett does trump's obsession with revenge. i guess. i don't know. think obsession his, his sort of continued talking about revenge against his perceived opponents have any comparison presented? it'll history, i mean, running as retribution. >> oh, absolutely not. i mean, we've the rhetoric that we see from the president in the way that he wants to weaponized the

justice department against his enemies, that sort of undermine the basic legitimacy of the justice system. use the courts against his political enemies is which side of the american political tradition, which is so interesting, which is why the republicans are using all these terms about weaponization of the justice department against the former president, because that is exactly what the form president is talking about yeah. >> i think it's sort of part of the challenge of donald trump, which is he views the whole world as corrupt as he views his own personal motives. >> and so he's sort of assumes everyone else out there is as corrupt as he is. i mean, you look at the what he has said about american veterans that the losers who get killed in war you know, what's in it for them what's in it for them and what what stands out in these normandy celebrations? is this

is the last passing of the greatest generation and this is a generation that fought and preserved western democracy and freedom in world war ii at huge personal cost to themselves the rangers who scaled that hundred foot cliff at 0.2 pointe-du-hoc on june 6, 1944 president and president trump just can't imagine the mindset and the courage and sacrifice that would come with an action like that. >> amanda, georgia, former georgia republican lieutenant governor geoff duncan, who's a staunch conservative, said last month that he's supporting biden. he wrote an op-ed and he said, quote, unlike trump, i belonged to the gop my entire life this november, i'm voting for a decent person i disagree on disagree with on policy over a criminal defendant without a moral compass why is that rationale so unappealing to so

many republicans? because for so long, moral character we heard that from evangelicals. we heard that from republican. i mean, that was supposedly the guidepost yeah. >> listen the partisan ship divides in our country run deep and they strike it the core identity of republican voters it is very hard for people across that barrier and say, i am going to vote for a democratic president. what i think the key is probably this election is find a way for republicans to preserve that republican identity and find a way to get there. and i think there's a lot of issues where people like jeff duncan hogging about issues of morality can say, this goes outside partisanship. right now, we're talking about the rise of the authoritarian american right? and the context of world war ii i was really happy to see an op-ed written by senate or senate minority leader mitch mcconnell yesterday in the new york times talking about quote, some vocal corners of american

right, are trying to resurrect the discredited brand of pre-war isolationism and deny the basic value of the alliance system that has kept the pre-war piece i mean those are. pretty strong words from mitch mcconnell and tried to put distance between this isolationists authoritarian fringe of the party and saying this is outside of tradition, this does not keep america safe and so i think it's again, extremely hard for people to say i'm giving up in the republican party. but you see the of lot of opportunities for agreement when these, when it comes to moral issues and protecting the western alliance and yet said in mcconnell has said he is supporting the former president, amanda carpenter. >> thank you. garrett graph as well. thank you. now and update on mark meadows, who served as the former president chief of staff often january 6, what he did in that capacity is now landed him in court. again first, it was in georgia along with foreign president today in arizona, where he's charged with conspiring to overturn 2020 election results. his old boss is described in this new

indictment as unindicted coconspirator one, a former president united states, who spread false claims of election fraud following the 2020 election. or from cnn's nick watt sir, could you state your name, please mark randall mattos, eight virtual appearance in an arizona court. this morning facing nine felony counts of conspiracy, forgery, and fraudulent schemes because prosecutors say meadows schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency. how did he go from this chief of staff to the most powerful man on earth? >> to this, if you failed to appear for court without good cause, a warrant could issue for your arrest these indicted along with other trump acolytes, including rudy giuliani, lawyers, john eastman, jenna ellis christina bobb, as well as advisors, boris epshteyn and michael roman also arizona's 11 so-called fake electors qatar's state lawmakers and republican operatives who

gathered in phoenix december 14, 2020, pledging part president donald j. >> trump of the state of florida but joe biden had won the state, thus winning their states 11 electoral votes. they also sent the fake pro-trump electoral surgeon tickets to washington those fake electors hoped prosecutors say to encourage vice president mike pence not to certify biden's victory on january 6, 2021? according to the indictment, meadows worked with members of the trump campaign to coordinate and implement the false republican electors votes in arizona. and six other states. >> and was involved in the many efforts to keep unindicted coconspirator. >> one in power, despite his defeat at the polls unindicted

coconspirator one is, of course donald trump and that broad fake electors scheme plays a significant part. in the federal indictment filed against him over the january 6 capitol insurrection the arizona election was talking hi biden won by just about 10,000 votes trump's supporters filed numerous lawsuits that all came to naught and later mounted an exhaustive audit of the maricopa county vote that found no significant fraud. that in 2023, a democratic state attorney general took office in arizona i will not allow american democracy to be undermined. it's too important. >> kris mayes succeeded a republican who investigated the unfounded allegations that fraud had benefited biden but not the fake electors. the mayes office investigation led to a grand jury indicting meadows at al in april. and today confirmation that meadows will fight.

>> he counseled you ever reading yes, your honor. >> we do an enter a plea of not guilty and rudy giuliani also indicted over here in arizona. he's proved a pretty tricky customer. it took arizona officials about three weeks to track him down to serve him with a summons. eventually, they tracked him on his live streams and served him as he was coming out of his 80th birthday party in palm beach, florida. then when it came time for his hearing, giuliani called in about an hour late, called the process a complete embarrassment to the american legal system, said it's a completely political case. the judge actually threatened to mute giuliani. now, unlike the other 17 indictment i think people in this case, giuliani's been asked to post a bond that he was given 30 days to actually go physically to arizona for processing and to post that $10,000 bond. he hasn't showed up, so far, and he's got 12 or 13 days left before he will miss that deadline. >> thanks for horses. you might

actually go neck. thank you. next following the money in the form of millions of dollars of gifts and fancy trips given to a supreme court justice, clarence thomas get reaction from a 400 former federal judge about the highest court in the land where the standard rules on ethics just don't apply also tonight, new polling from key battleground states in new york times columnist frank pruney, and democrats who he believes have, their head in the sand about them when the competition is a nuclear competition, spying is extraordinary fairly important the russians were trying to spy on us we were spying on them it's very difficult to determine whom you can trust. i was studying right everything got out of control this is a war, but secret was parts and spies, a nuclear game. >> sunday at ten on cnn brynn

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wife's connection to the effort to overturn the 2020 election. >> today, he submitted a revised disclosure filing revealing additional luxury travel to indonesia and to bohemian grove secret of vip retreating the california woods, all paid for by conservative billionaire friend harlan crow, reporting from propel boc propublica first revealed some of the gifts that he got in all of this coming on the heels of report from a watchdog group, fix the court identifying justice thomas as by far the biggest gift recipient on the court to the tune of more than $4 million worth over the last 20 years joining us, his former obama white house ethics are norm eisen and former federal judge nancy gardner. so judge gardner, you've been critical of justice thomas. what do you make of him just now officially disclosing those trips page before by harlan crow does that make the situation and needs it's too little? well, it makes it somewhat better, but it's still too little too late. i mean, here here, i have to pause. federal judges have a

decent salary and you're not supposed to accept gifts without disclosing, without there being disclosed so that people know oh, who are supporting, you know what, who's funding you. so he did disclose that. but the larger picture is still disturbing judges, for example, could not accept speaking fees. i traveled around the world and i would give speeches for free. and if you are not supposed to accept honorarium, there was an effort to change that in 2000 and it was so actually call the keep scalia on the bench bill by some lawmakers. and it was defeated because people didn't want judges to get money from private sources. that would then cast doubt on their impartiality so essentially what thomas has done is effectively bypass done an end run around that so that he could get these these lavish trips that really is so outstrips every other justice. so outstrips every other judge essentially, that's what kept him on the bench. he could then

have a lifestyle that was supported by others and who the others are is an open question and their impact on him is an open question, but it's a complete and run around all of the rules and normal, we should point out justice thomas, he's big on talking about how he just loves to travel around in his rv and stay in trailer parks that's clearly not what he's been doing it the bohemian grove and in bali and all these places paid for by others norm, i mean justice alito, who's obviously been criticized for failing to disclose luxury travel paid for by billionaire with interests before the court told the wall street journal last year that congress has no power to impose new ethics or disclosure rules on the court. he said, quote, i know this is a controversial view, but i'm willing to say it no provision of the constitution gives them the authority to regulate the supreme court period, end quote, is he right? >> he's wrong. anderson. it's

contrary to the fundamental american idea that our nation was founded on. we didn't want certain individuals like king george the third, who we overthrew to be above the law. judges are subject to checks and balances and to federal for law like anybody else no wonder the supreme court is in an ethics crisis the combination of these enormous amounts of luxury travel by justice thomas also involving justice alito, the second largest recipient of gifts over that same period of time and their spouses conduct that raises questions about their ability to sit on cases. they should have recused from those cases. when i i was the ethics tsar in the white house, i wouldn't allow even if the rules permitted it. i wouldn't allow white house staff to take

these kinds of luxury vacations because of the appearance that creates a exploiting official action. the givers of these gifts have ideological hello or business issues before the court. it's absolutely outrageous and unacceptable and justice alito is not above the law judge gertner every mentioned the supreme court watchdog group fix the court. >> they released an estimate of the number of gifts justices have received, their total value over the last two decades according to group's data or the nearly $5 million in gifts the justices and proceed more than 4 million of it went to justice thomas that's incredible. >> well, well, that's what i'm saying. he judicial pay is regulated judicial conduct is regulated. this is a completely unregulated supporting of this justice which up until recently he kept out of public view. but i'm more concerned even just about the fact of it. happy

that you disclose it. but the fact of it is really in my view, in violation of the laws, by the way, the laws already on the books. justice alito is simply wrong. the disclosure sure. laws or legislation the bar on honorarium is legislation congress could regulate. they're just choosing not to judge gardner norm eisen. >> thank you. still to come, new polls suggest that a convicted felon does have a significant shot at winning back the white house. i'll talk the new york times is frank bernie who's latest column criticized the democrats do think it can happen trouble losing weight and keeping same discover the power of week-old to the beach gobi i lost 35 pounds as some lost the war, 46 pounds we go. >> and i'm keeping the weight off we go via helps you lose weight keep it off. i'm reducing my risk. >> we go v is the only fda

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he's trailing 46% of the former president's 51%. >> and then nevada and other close wind by biden, he trails a similar 45% to the former president's 50%. both leads are within the margin of error. the former president's appeal to voters despite obvious questions about his character is the subject of this recent column by that new york times this is frank bruno. he writes, i'm routinely gobs mac by how many people, including influential democrats, tell me that they can't imagine a victory by donald trump in november i'm even more astounded by their reasoning. frank bruno joins us now, what, what is their reasoning that they can't imagine this? >> they can't imagine it because basically they think trump is so awful, right okay. >> i mean, i feel like i've heard that argument before. i think i heard it in 2016, didn't i mean, that's that's the thing. >> i mean, you could call this idealism or you could call it amnesia, right people seem to know, granted trump has been saying things that i think are even more awful if you can quantify or qualify why these things. i mean, the vermin, the poisoning, the bloodstream. i

mean, now he's threatening essentially here is proxies are threatening to jail. his political opponents. he is worse by degrees, but this notion of people that when all is said and done, when the chips are down, when the weight of the decision hits them, americans are not going to binary choice would not on a screen, but they're not gonna be able to metaphorically pull the lever for trump. i think that is dangerous complacency to think that. yeah, there's no evidence that that is not proven to be the case. i mean, people look at will biden won back in 2020 it was incredibly narrow in the states that matter in the electoral college we're talking about tens of thousands of votes. if you took a certain cluster of states, there were about 45,000 votes that if they'd gone a different way would have made it a tie in the electoral college, even though biden won by about 7 million votes in the popular count, which of course doesn't, doesn't matter. >> but also remember in 20 hey, 20, we were mid pandemic, right? i think that really hurt trump in 2020, biden was the

candidate of change because trump was the status quo. now, weirdly, because he's been president trump is the candidate for change that's interesting. >> yeah. are you wrote out in the article and it did. i started thinking about that. it does to many people feel like trump is the new person on the scene. and there's sort of an amnesia about some the the michigan that went on. yeah. no, i mean, he had is four years. and how much did your life really change? right. but if you want to turn the page, biden is the page, right? >> and that's and that's a big problem from also, if you are in so many democrats are and understand and so many independence and somebody never trump republicans if you are attuned to the awfulness of donald trump i find them quite awful it's easy to forget what a deeply unpopular president joe biden is. his approval ratings are awful. it's easy to turn away from the fact that he's 81-years-old and he wears there's those years, not particularly well that to me shouldn't matter nearly as

much as his values as his policy prescriptions as that sort of thing. but for a lot of voters, it's really unsettling to vote for someone who seems sometimes is unsteady to them as biden does, there's also obviously, there's the war in the israel-hamas war. you hear from a lot of democratic voters are younger voters talk about, well, maybe sitting it out or a third-party candidate when people talk about sitting, it, does that drive you as crazy as it drives me? i don't understand the logic of it. i mean, just from a rational logical standpoint, i don't understand you have to have a preference. i mean, and in this case, i would say to them, listen, listen to these two men very carefully. listen to what they said today. you were just talking about this earlier in the show. listened listened to them, think about their values. ask yourself who is going to be a better steward of american democracy despite his faults and then tell me whether you really want to set it out or not. >> is do you think that was the other argument? i think there were many democrats who were kind of thinking, okay, well,

some of these court cases are going to come. and obviously now it's clear there's not gonna be any other court case. >> no other court cases. and i think donald trump is one of the luckiest man alive. i mean, he cuts such a luck keep break of all of the cases of all four of the cases. this was the offense that seemed the most minor this is the one that it is easiest for his allies and enablers to argue, didn't need to be prosecuted. and so i mean, i wrote this right after the verdict. i don't think these 34 felony counts are going to change much, and i'm also not locked them into your world. >> for sure it is the lucky break. he has been afforded due process as any credible as much as any criminal defendant ever has and has used that very effectively through his counsel and had judges said some luck with judges, but frame for me, thank you so much. appreciate it. just ahead. and fda advisory committee voted overwhelmingly against the use of a drug ecstasy mdma to treat post-traumatic stress will tell you why and explore how some researchers are hoping psychedelic drugs might help improve mental health when

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october, the age of 77 after a diagnosis of colon cancer people ask me, you won't do it again, i said, hell, no, i don't like that again, it was really that bad. >> it was awful the entire time. >> other than the very end and the very beginning, i was crying green mcloughlin is talking about the hallucinogenic experience she had here at johns hopkins university today after being given a large dose of psilocybin, the psychedelic agent in magic mushrooms as part of an ongoing clinical trial, we tell people that they're experiences may vary from very positive to transcendent and lovely to literally hell round experiences, hell realm as frightening and experience as you have ever had in your life that scientists roland griffiths for nearly two decades now, he and his colleague matthew johnson had been giving what they call heroic doses of psilocybin two more than 350 volunteers many

struggling with addiction, depression, and anxiety can you tell who is going to have a bad experience, who's going to have a transcendent experts in our ability to predict that is almost non-adult than about a third will at our, at a high dose, say that they have something like that. >> what folks would call a bad trip but most of those folks will actually say that that was key to the experienced karima go offline was a smoker for 46 years and said she tried everything to quit before being given psilocybin at johns hopkins last year. psilocybin itself is non addictive do you remember what specifically what you were seeing or the ceiling of this room? >> we're clouds like heavy rain clouds and gradually they were lowering and i thought i was going to suffer k from the clouds that was more than a year ago. >> she says she hasn't smoked since the study she took part in is still ongoing, but in an

earlier small study of just 15 long-term smokers, 80% had quit six months after taking psilocybin. that's double the rate of any over-the-counter smoking secession product hey, come to a profound shift of worldview essentially a shift in sense of self that i think they see their life in a different way. >> their worldview changes and they are less identified with that self narratives. people might use the term ego and that creates the census the freedom, and not just with smokers, beer usually cocktails usually vodka, sodas, to kill sodas scotch and sodas. >> john cost decapolis was drinking a staggering 20 cocktails and night and had been warned, he was slowly killing himself he decided to enroll in another psilocybin trial at new york university during one psilocybin session, he was flooded with powerful feelings and images from his

past. >> stuff would come up that i haven't thought of since they happened to old memories that you hadn't even remembered came back to you i felt a lot of shame and embarrassment throughout one of the sessions about my drinking and how bad i felt for my parents to put up with all this. he took psilocybin in 2016. he says he hasn't had a drink since. >> do you ever have a de where you wake up and you're like, man, i wish i could have a vodka right now or never. not at all. not at all. which is the craziest thing because that was my favorite thing to do. >> i want you to lie back. but the i shade on headphones and let the music carrie, you now using psychedelic drugs and therapy is not new. there were hundreds of scientific studies done on a similar compound, lsd in the 1950s and 60s. >> it was it's tested on more than 40,000 people. salman controlled therapeutic settings

like this one. but there were also abuses. >> the us military and cia experimented with lsd sometimes without patient's knowledge fear over rampant drug use and the spread of the counterculture movement, not to mention harvard professor timothy leary jury urging people to turn on tune in and drop out lead to a clamp down. this nation faces a major crisis in terms of the increasing use of drugs, particularly among our young people in 1970, president richard nixon signed the controlled substances act and nearly all scientific research in the the us into the facts psychedelics on people stopped it wasn't until 2000. >> scientists roland griffiths, one fda approval to study psilocybin. >> this whole area of research has been in the deep freeze for 25 or 30 years. and so as a scientist, sometimes i feel like rip van winkle and once you saw results, yeah, that red lights start flashing. this is

extraordinarily interesting. it's unprecedented and the capacity of the human organism to change. it just was astounding. >> it sounds like you are endorsing this for everybody. >> yeah. let's be really clear. on that. we are very aware of the risks and would not recommend that people simply go out and do this. >> griffiths and johnson screen out people with psychotic disorders or with close relatives who have had schizophrenia or bipolar disorder study volunteers at johns hopkins are given weeks of intensive counseling before and after the six hours psilocybin experience psilocybin is given in a carefully controlled setting 123 times. to date, they say there's not been a single serious adverse outcome. >> so i'm going to tuck you in. we were told we couldn't record anyone participating in the study while they were on psilocybin because it might impact their experience. but we

were shown how it begins without the psilocybin questions, you lay on a couch with a blindfold to shut out distractions. >> put the headphones on, and headphones playing a mix of coral and classical well music. psychedelic soundtrack with a trained guide, mary kazaa mano, watching over you. >> okay, so give me your hand. so i'm going to take your hand that everything is done the same way it for the lsd experiments, scientists conducted in the 1950s and 60s some of the most dramatic results have been with terminal cancer patients struggling with anxiety and paralyzing depression i start seeing the colors and the geometric designs and the cycle. >> this is so cool and how lovely and then boat visions began. >> carry pappus was diagnosed with stage three lung cancer in 2013. during her psilocybin session, she found herself trapped in a nightmare. her mind created an anxious

prehistoric barren land and there's these men with hq axes, just slamming on the rocks. so this felt absolutely real two absolutely real i was being shown the truth of reality life is meaningless we have all-purpose. and then i look and i'm still like a witness a beautiful shimmering bright joule. and then it was sound and it was booming, booming, booming right here, right now. >> that was being said. >> yes. >> you are alive right here, right? now because that's all you have and that is my mantra

de it seemed so implausible to me that a single experience caused by a molecule, right? ingested in your body could transform your outlook on something as profound as death that's kind of amazing author michael pollan wrote about the psilocybin studies in a bestselling book called how to change your mind. >> as part of his research, he tried psilocybin himself with the help of an underground guide the kind of things that cancer patients were saying, like, i touched the face of god you were skeptical about when you hear phrases like that? yeah. >> our love is the most important thing in the universe when someone tells me that i was like, yeah. okay. so you don't you don't go for some of the phrases and it makes gives me the willie's is a writer and i really struggled with that because during one of my experiences, i came to the earth-shattering conclusion that love is the most important thing in the universe, but it's hallmark card stuff, right? and so, and yet while you were on it and afterwards was profoundly true and it is profoundly true. guess what,

reason it's on a hallmark card there's a reason and one of the things psychedelics do is they peel away all those essentially protective levels of irony and cynicism that we, that we acquire as we get older and you back to those kind of oh my god, i forgot all about love polin said he also experienced with the researchers describe as ego loss or identity loss, the quieting of the constant boys. we all have in our heads. >> i did have this experience of seeing my ego burst into a little cloud of post-it notes. i know it sounds crazy. >> and what are you without an ego you're yet to be their researchers believe that sensation of identity loss occurs because psilocybin quiet these two areas of the brain that normally communicate with each other. they're part of a region called the default mode network and it's especially active when we're thinking

about ourselves and our lives. >> and it's where you connect what happens in your life to the story of who you are. >> we all develop a story over time about time, what our past was like a person we are, how we react and that the fact is that interesting things happen when the self goes quiet and the brain, including this rewiring that happens to see that rewiring johns hopkins scientist matthew johnson showed us this representational chart of brain activity the circle on the left shows normal communication between parts of the brain. on the right, what happens on psilocybin? there's an explosion of connections or crosstalk between areas of the brain that don't normally communicate the difference has just startling, right? >> is that why people are having experiences of seeing repress memories are passed memories are people who have died or that's what we think at, and even the perceptual effect sometimes there's synesthesia like the scene

sound, people see sound, yes sometimes. i don't even know what that means. >> right? yeah right yeah. maybe the ego is one character among many in your mind and you don't necessarily have to listen to that voice that's chattering at you and criticizing you and tell you what to do and that's very freeing it? was certainly freeing for carrie pappas over cancer has now spread to her brain. her crippling anxiety about death is gone. >> yeah, it's amazing i mean, i feel like death doesn't frighten me living doesn't frighten me. i don't frighten me this frightens me, but this interview for it death doesn't know it turns out most of the 51 cancer patients and the johns hopkins study experienced significant decreases in depressed mood and anxiety after trying psilocybin two thirds of them rated their psilocybin sessions as among the most meaningful experiences of their lives for some, it was

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>> safa, who deserve the comfort of a great night sleep i'm alex bar part in washington, and this is cnn tonight, pat sajak spun the wheel one last time on wheel of fortune after 41 years is the host.

>> he 77 now, he plans to do other projects, role serving behind the scenes as a consultant for the show. this means the famous joe pat and i'm vanna won't be on camera together each night, but don't worry, she is staying and will still be revealing the letters. ryan seacrest will be the new the host next season tonight before signing off for the last time. here's what pat sajak told viewers it's been an incredible privilege to be invited into millions of homes night after night, year after year, decade after decade. >> and i've always felt that the privilege came with a responsibility to keep this daily now for our a safe place for family fund, no social issues, no politics, nothing embarrassing. i hope just a game. but gradually it became more than that. a place where kids learn their letters, where people from other countries hone their english skills, were families came together along with friends and neighbors and entire generations what an honor to play, even a small part in all that. thank you for allowing me into your lives

well, it's the end of an era. >> harry enten joins me now with more than patsy sajak, legendary career. he's the long is it really the longest running gameshow host? >> yeah, at least. yeah absolutely. >> at least currently right now, i think the only two could be up there would be like a bob barker with the problem i says right. who was only there for i think like 35 years and obviously alex drawback, who is i think with jeopardy for a little over 36 or 37 years. so yeah, he's absolutely up there and you know what, so truly remarkable about him is just how much money they awarded on that show while he was there. we're talking 200 250 million dollars. look how many puzzles to work. there were 50,000 puzzles. you can put a number to anything, anderson, i got you right now. you were up all night. counting was parcels. i was literally watching the show over and over. you got a wheel of fortune puzzle for me, one that was apparently notoriously difficult. yes. i'm a jeopardy guys, so i haven't i think i'm a jeopardy guy. do i prefer facts? i can't really play hangman particularly well, but sometimes we think these puzzles are so easy standing at home. no, but we have a