talking about this earlier. the optics of it of picking a southern white male instead of who the vice president is right now in the place of, i think is a really bad optic. and if i'm republicans, i know the ads that i'm going to run. i'm going to target the african-american community and say you aren't good. well, i've actually, he's not like being chosen for the ticket. >> i've actually moved away from for many people in my party are now i actually think we should have an open convention. let it the president's not going to do it. have an open convention, have multiple rounds of voting its remember reality television, van and it's got 11 million viewers in the last season over the scanned of all, let's have people and more people know about that to know about this. for him, court. right. let's have people get attached to these candidates in a way they're used to seeing. and then we can go ahead and run a campaign. i was not on my bingo card hard tonight rules. >> i'd love to see her and open convention on are guaranteeing trump wins well, i don't think so. i think it's a way to capture the public and

people would have their imaginations. >> all right, guys. thank you very much. and thank you for watching news night. laura coates live starts right now. >> well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal well, the supreme court largely cosines richard nixon's infamous argument. >> what it means for the case against donald trump, and could help president joe biden survived the calls for him. to step down tonight. i'm laura coates, live all right. let me ask you a question. america do you believe the following statement? no one is above the law do you i actually are rhetorical question. i'm i'm genuinely curious. do you believe sitting where you are today that no one is above the law now abed for many of you at one time, you went with answered yes and probably emphatically and maybe

especially when it came to the president united states. but today, tonight, i wonder if that answer may have changed. say it feels less like a declaratory statement and more of a kind of valley up speak no one is above the law will least one person no longer believes it. quote, the president is now a king above the law unquote. that was supreme court justice sonia sotomayor. her words again the president is now a king above the law. that's how she characterize the impact of the court's historic six to three ruling today. one that found that donald trump and well any other president for that matter has substantial immunity for official acts. in other words, if it's part of the official job scription laid out in the constitution. they can't prosecute him in criminal court now, here's the thing. that part of decision does not really that surprising

to most people thought that would happen that a president couldn't be criminally prosecuted for actually doing the job of the president what was surprising, the kinds of thing the supreme court said the work of the president was when they punted the trial court to figure out the exact duties that same foot kick the can down the road for any trial, certainly pass november now, i've jack smith's case was a kind of where those jenga towers built one block after another, evidence of testimony. well, today the supreme court's conservative majority poked out so many blocks the case is teetering take, for example, this from the court's ruling trump is therefore absolutely immune from prosecution for the alleged conduct involving his discussions with justice department officials so any discussion that he had with his doj cannot be used with jack smith or by jack smith why is that a big blow? well, a lot of the indictment cites the fact

that trump's own doj told him at the election fraud claims were untrue testimony. well, like this from trump's own former attorney general and made it clear i did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out this stuff which i told the president was jack. smith will never be able to use that nor can you use any other conversation trump may have had with any other doj officials, right okay. well, what about his pressure campaign against vice president pence? well according to the court, that's official conduct to quote trump is at least presumptively immune from prosecution for such conduct. the court is leading up to judge tanya chutkan, who is overseeing the case to decide that that issue for sure. while with two other components laid out in the indictment, trump's alleged pressuring of state officials and official act chutkan decides the left land to create

false electors. chutkan decides, but she has even get the last word. you realize all of this will be open to appeal once again so trump doesn't like how judge chutkan rules. he can drag it out with another appeal. that's why it's near impossible for this case to be tried, let alone concluded by november immunity by delay donald trump i'm sure is very happy yes, big wins for our constitution and democracy. proud to be an american president. joe biden tonight the seat of the questions about his own campaign delivering i'm pretty rare address to mark the stakes now, the american people have to do what the court should have been willing to do. >> but whatnot the american raft to render a judgment about donald trump's behavior. perhaps most importantly american people must decide they want to entrust the president once again the

presidency to donald trump now annoyed, he'll be more emboldened to do whatever he pleases whenever you wants to do it so here's my question to you again. >> do you sitting here tonight believe no one is above the law we're talking about this historic ruling came wally, former assistant us attorney and professor at american university washington college of law. tim parlatore, senior legal commentator and former trump attorney devlin barrett, national security report the the washington post and tiffany, right, former law clerk for justice, sonia sotomayor quite a panel on a day like this, quite a de shall we say? kim, i'll begin with you here because you and i have talked about this case many a times. as we all have frankly together and the idea that they were not going to give you an enumerated list of what constitutes an official act, perhaps unsurprising. but by giving it back to the lower court to decide this issue, what are the risks? >> well, they did say some

things were official, just the chief justice was not willing to say some things were unofficial. and let's just be clear. this is in response to january 6 the only reason we're even in this moment is because of transgressions of january 6. it's a reward really for what the president did. former president trump a reward for the presidency itself, the court is basically saying we cannot trust good faith of prosecutors. we need to protect the president so what will happen now is this line between official and unofficial acts and ambiguity galore, as you indicated, we're going to see appeals. it could go on and on and ultimately the the court can say what's left of the case is actually also immune, but at the end of the day, this comes down to incentives. the reason we have checks and balances under the constitution is to disincentivize president's from crossing boundaries. and in 236 years, we haven't needed criminal immunity for president and without consequences for

drawing boundaries. i think the big issue is we'll president just blow through every stop sign because there's no risk. there's no downside. i think that's the big danger moving forward that goes far beyond the case before judge judge chutkan or frankly, the other two are pending criminal cases. we're donald trump did have official had conduct in the oval office that get gave rise to these indictments that could now be axed from the case. let's talk more broadly, who are talking about this issue because it's not just a matter of whether he would have immunity. it's also about whether evans is excluded at trial. right. and you're making a trial, you're trying to create a story. you're not crave, you're trying to relay a story. you're trying to convince a jury of something, something in the opinion, also dictates that i'm talks about that they cannot use as evidence discussions like he had with doj and others. how do you craft a story? hey, about what happened without that?

>> well, that's what makes the opinion somewhat disingenuous. right? because they tried to leave open the door that yes, there are some things that can be prosecuted, but the practical question is how the court says you can't introduce evidence of motive. what most crimes require proof of motive. and if you can't even inquire into it, then how can you ever prove? a crime? the second thing the court says is you can't introduce evidence of any official act. so if using the famous seal team six example, you have a number of conversations with your military generals or department of justice officials before you ordered the assassination? none of that can be used as evidence. and so the court says, yeah, sure. there are some things that can be prosecuted, but that's really empty because the practical reality is that i don't see how it's possible. i mean, tim, when you're thinking about this, just to play devil's advocate perhaps is justice roberts was very clear the reason that they wanted to make sure that motive example would not be questioned is because they were afraid that the very allegation against a sitting president or otherwise would disincentivize their ability to do there but they're always wondering an allegation alone is enough to derail me. that's

a problem, but to her point, doesn't this go a bit beyond the practicality of trying to make sure that there is accountability. >> why i think that there's a difference in what everybody is thinking right now, what this is ultimately going to look like? when implemented, or the idea of not looking into motive. that's really talking about the things that the supreme court had said are absolutely immune, that you can then look into motive to see if you can somehow overturn that immunity. but the things that are presumptively immune and then if you have the hearing and the judge judge chutkan says, okay, they've overcome that rebuttable presumption. and so that is something is prosecutable absolutely. you can still go into modem. >> well, where backup are we picking i think i want to hear more about this for the audience. some secular they did have a concern about essentially using an initiating at trial to go and back or at go back around the ability to undermine immunity. but how would that look in trial if they were how would they do that? >> it wouldn't go to trial

that'd be something that would be happening in a pretrial hearing and that's the thing that we have to remember here is this is now going to go to a pretrial hearing where all of these issues are going to be brought out in front of judge check and she's going to have a hearing that i predictably at least three weeks long, where they're going to have a bunch of witnesses. the come in the rules of evidence are can apply. so it'll be much more efficient than a trial but my pencil probably testify and she'll here all of the evidence. in fact, the american people will hear all the evidence in this case before the election, even though the trial will not happen before november, so that she can decide what what fits within the structure that the supreme court has laid out for immunity. what is outside of that and therefore can go forward in a trial presumably next year, if ever. and that is something that is going to be done at a pretrial hearing and i believe that standard there's gonna be a preponderance standard, so she'll be able to figure out it's more likely than not that this is immune or is not. >> well devlin age you to clear

your calendar. he told three weeks. i mean knowing your schedule, you're like, wait, what three-week period are we talking about right now? do you need to have a moment i don't need it a moment. >> what i need is for lawyers to stop i really i have covered trials for a long time. i'm not a lawyer i'm the dumbest person at this table. i'll cop to that any day. but honestly, laura this decision speaks to what i think is the fundamental problem of where we are in the country, which is that we keep asking the criminal justice system to solve political problems and this decision shows that the criminal justice system is not up to it stop asking lawyers to fix these problems. these are political problems. the voters of this country, the country itself, needs to decide what the right thing to do is here, because the courts will not do it. the lawyers will not do it. the government will not do it. and if we don't just accept that we're going to spend our time

in three-week hearings that lead nowhere. that resolve nothing, and that are just billable hours. and i don't care about billable hours. i personally as a reporter, i want to i want to explain facts and i want to explain what's right and wrong. and it is not going to be lawyers you decide that to me the big lesson of this decision is that lawyers are not the solution to anything to you are you suggesting that the political problem here is one that voters have to identify and decide what to do about that. if there is a criminal allegation than the courts should just not be a part of it. it's only the exercise of democracy, not be not, not be a part of it. i think that's too extreme. i think you're asking the courts to sort of like front run the political process and clearly they're not going to do that. there's no trial that that's proceeding in a way that is going to resolve this issue for the body politic, how do you feel about it, guys? well, you

just go back to the united states versus nixon case. it was a 9-0 decision by the united states supreme court. these were the oval office tapes, core executive communications, and the court said, listen, the rule of law and justice and the american people require that this evidence be turned over it and ultimately brought down the nixon presidency. so i but you could argue to win right now. whole thing on its head. but the idea that somehow the courts aren't functioning and don't have a role in the constitutional separation of powers. i don't think is borne out by history. this court i don't think this court is willing to respect the separation of powers, which is no more kings, and i think justice sotomayor, to other justices, joined her if you've got unaccountable unlimited power, that is like a monarch with the power comes from, the divine. and there is no checks and balances. and i would argue that why we're here in part is because the political system has failed. the impeachment

process failed congressional oversight, failed all the other checks and balances that are built into constraining the president's power did not work with trump and just to be clear, it's when president's use their official power, when they use the commander in chief power, they use the military, they use the spine mechanisms, they use the fbi, they use law enforcement. they've used prosecutor get hers that's when it's most dangerous. that's exactly the place we need accountant but doesn't this court say nixon was right? isn't that what's most strange? and uncomfort uncomfortable about what serving as response. they say nixon is right, but in a disingenuous way, it goes back to this idea of paying lip service to constitutional principles, but not actually living i totally agree with kim that what we have here is a case where you should be able to count on the supreme court to stand up for checks and balances on the rule of law. >> this is a failure of this course, but i want to go to justice sotomayor's descent because i think it was powerful. i think we should pay attention because judges are very judicious and their word. so when you have a supreme court justice say something like i am afraid for our

democracy that is something that i think does draw attention to what she's saying is this is the tuition is down. you can't count on us it's up to you, right? if we're going to save it, it's going to be through another democratic mechanism. and so i think yes, lawyers are not the answer anymore should have been, but we have failed for many reasons. and now i think it's up to the people wow, what i didn't fail why we have a lawyer and they always your profession has everyone got that the outside or the other lawyer thank you. >> so thank you, everyone. i appreciate it. what my next guest says, everyone, calm down, don't panic over the supreme court's decision on immunity. even though he himself is certainly no fan of trump democratic congressman eric swale. well, joins me on that point and on the growing concerns about president biden's fitness for office in just a moment with generative

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vance, calling passive win, not just for trump, but the rule of law senator marsha blackburn saying the decision rebukes democrats blatant attempts to weaponize our legal system against donald trump. house speaker mike johnson, noting it to victory for former president trump and all future president i want to bring a democratic congressman, eric swale. well, he sued former president trump and his close allies over the capitol insurrection, riot and served as a house impeachment manager and trump's second impeachment congressman. thank you so much for joining me this evening. a lot happening, a lot of panics around in a number of things and you are saying, look, don't panic. this is not a trump victory how so well, first, this is an assassination attempt on democracy by donald trump's supreme court. >> and they're doing it the same week that we're

celebrating our independence from a monarchy. and they're doing it because they want to make donald trump king, the person who appointed so many of them, but don't panic because they do lay out a narrow path and it's a path that we've been successful in an our civil suit that says that if there are unofficial acts that those acts could be charged and outside of absolute immunity. and by the way, it's completely unofficial to fire up, aim and mobilize a mob against the people who are counting americans votes to carry out violence. that's what the courts have found unanimously in my cases. and that's i think the path that jack smith is going to have to take, but laura, this is about more than just one moment. >> i don't want you out, but i do want to clarify a point because i am curious. you say the by the way, when it comes to official vicious or zone official it's going to have to go the district court to decide these issues, whether or not what constitutes official what's unofficial, and evidentiary hearing of sorts to see what might go before a jury

trial that can be appealed though. and in this game of immunity by delay, are you not concerned that this could be? he the ultimate perpetual will kicking the can down the road that's why it's up to all of us because it's about more than the supreme court. >> it's about a man who has declared he'll be a dictator on day one, and he will destroy everything that makes america work. it's about the fbi that will bigoted. it's about the cia, it's about the state department's about living in a country under a dictator where you could have irs agents darkening your door to go after their political opponents. it's about having to whisper to your wife any dissent you have about your country like they do in russia, in china, countries that this want to be dictator admires. it's about completely changing who we are as a country. and so when you say laura, who was it on, what can we do? it's on all of us. and so i will do everything i can to help defeat donald trump. but the best bet, the

guaranteed a stop him is to take control of the house. and so we have to take and hold the house. and that's what i'm going to work to do every day over the next four months is to be a guardrail so that we can hold on to our constitution, our way of life, to hold on to everything we hold dear so it's really about, we have to hold the house. >> you congressman most people i've been focusing on what, 100 120 something days from now, a presidential election, really it is an election that includes the down-ballot and congressional races as well, to your larger point about what both democrats and republicans are hoping to accomplish. the debate performance that we've seen though conversations around who should be the ultimate candidates as well. it is having a impact, shall we say on discussions around the strength of the democratic party to do just what you're talking about. he is as president biden under enormous pressure, including inside the democratic party, to step aside

possibly. and i want to play for you what you said back in 2019 when when frankly, you were a candidate for president and you were debating, then former vice president biden, listen i was 6-years-old when a presidential candidate came to the california democratic convention and said, it's time to pass the torch to a new generation of americans. >> back candidate was then senator joe biden. joe biden was right when he said it was time to pass the torch to a new generation of americans 32 years ago. he's still write today now that was 2019. do you feel that way today i do. >> and i'm actually less worried about a one-hour debate and more worried about the next four years, you held the next 40 to 50 years and i'm not saying that is an overreaction or some cheap campaign tactic i'm saying that to the women in america who were protected by the roe decision for over 50 years. and then like that hoof,

it's gone because donald trump's stolen from them. and so i know and i'm clear-eyed about what we have to do and who we have to defeat. and that's to make sure donald trump never as they want to be dictators, somebody will change the composition of his country, gets back in the white house. does that mean that you think that president joe biden should step aside and no longer run? no. i'm saying we have to do everything we can to make sure donald trump does not win. we know what he will do, look, this is a guy who did not accept the outcome of the last election and he prefers violence over voting. we don't, we don't have to imagine what he will do if he actually wins. and it could be the last time in our lifetime that any of us go to the polls and vote. and a fair election. those are the stakes congressman, there is oftentimes and my experience in washington dc, this disconnect between what said publicly and then what other private conversations behind the scenes. >> and this is across the

political spectrum trump full stop. there was a democratic congressman who only agreed to speak to cnn anonymously and they said that the dam would break if data shows that biden's debate performance will cost democrats the house. and by the way you've just talked about the idea of having to hold on the house in order to preserve democracy and to have democrats being control is that the tipping point? do you think the data points that i see is fast concern about what would happen if donald trump is elected president. you didn't see donald trump's numbers skyrocket after that debate because we also had the opportunity to see who he is there's a monster. he's a dictator. he is somebody who will completely change what america looks like. he tried it once, and the competent people who restrained him, like matus light kelley, like tiller sin, they're not going to be around. it's going to be yes-men goons and people who

hate freedom. and that's what stakes are. and i'm clear-eyed and every person in this country should be clear about what the choice will be. >> i certainly the headline would normally be based on the data points that we've seen about the popularity or lack thereof of either candidate, the conversation continues to develops rounding issues of age and happened to z and then ultimately for voters, this substance behind each candidates policy positions and that of course, is the next frontier of any democracy. congressman eric swale. well, thank you so much. >> my pleasure thanks laura little, president biden's campaign is trying to ease donor concerns about his health. >> but you know what all indications are that many are not buying what the campaign the saying. anthony scaramucci was at a biden fundraiser this past weekend and he's my guest next surprise? >> there's hosting shark short. his back, who is the

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more it still go.com i'm alex far apart in washington and this is cnn the biden campaign today holding, and very important call with donors to try and calm their panic following the president's debate performance. >> last thursday the dnc finance chair saying on the call, quote everyone just needs to breathe through their nose for a minute. but some participants are saying the meeting did very little to stem that anxiety, even though the campaign claims to have raised more than 33 million bucks, just the two days after the debate. calls for biden to drop out don't appear to be slowing down even though he's given no indication that he would do so. now protesters are urging biden to leave the race during his east hampton fundraiser just this weekend, one person with a

sign saying we love you but it's time. and the polls they appear to echo the sentiment. cbs news poll nectar after the debate shows that 72% of voters say the president should not be running for reelection. but the biden campaign, they're doubling down and they are referring to those were raising concerns as the quote bed wedding brigade i want to bring an anthony scaramucci. he's a former trump white house communications director also the author of from wall street to the white house. and back anthony, so good to see you. there has been a lot happened. and how are you? >> well, i'm not a i'm not a bed wetter. laura maybe i wasn't at some point in my life, but not tonight, but i don't i don't think those concerns are bed wedding concerns. i think there are legitimate concerns and all the campaign has to do is say the president is ready to go, take

questions, press conferences, rigorous discussion with journalists. and it would put to bed what happened, which if it is a 90 minute blip and let's take his word honore, that it is show the american people get out there, push yourself past a teleprompter and encourage more viral discussion and more interactive discussion. if he does that, i think it would help him at this time and i think it would shift the whole numbers back towards him. >> yeah. we're not we are not seeing a lot of that. we did see him come out tonight to talk about the immunity decision. he did not take any questions. i wonder if that was the same tone as your strike getting at this east hampton fundraiser over the weekend you were actually there? i wonder how did it go? did biden behave the way we saw him at the debate or was it the rally? it seems like there are a number of different persona's that come out, which one arrived?

>> so i thought it was more like the rally. i thought it was more like what were traditionally used to seeing the president, the president looked like he was under hydrated at the debate. and they probably jam too many facts and figures in his head that happened to ronald reagan in his first debate. but i think if the president is six to three things, the economy is robust, the dollar is stronger, the stock market is at an all-time high. he's restored are global alliances and he's protecting people from totalitarianism. there's 5.7 billion people that live under totalitarianism his opponent likes totalitarian leaders and i think he has to state that. and i think the last point is forget about the convictions president trump has something psychologically wrong with him, as evidenced by 40 people that work inside of his cabinet we're giving out a surgeon general's warning label of his sociopathy behavior. and so

he's got a hammer that home to people and i have said this before, laura, if you had 40 of us worked for a pharmaceutical company and we told you that that pill is going to kill you why are you going to take that pill? and i think the president has to do those things consistently and stay in that narrative, but he needs to be way more interactive to reassures base that opportunity presented itself for the debate. and one of the lesser discussed moments, anthony, where he spoke about the including general, who talked about the losers and suckers comment. he talked about how there were many that were not supportive of him that quickly devolved then the red parte simply was not there even eight feet from him how can he make the case going forward in a way that broadens the base, not just preaches to acquire call, call, some of those people up in list them enlist their help. you have the vice president of the united states, mike pence

on the ballot twice with president trump. that is telling you under no circumstances what do you endorse them? the supreme court can rule wherever way that they want. but people know the facts and circumstances about the situation at the capitol. mark meadows knows that my pence knows that there are people inside the inner sanctum that are patriotic americans that do not want donald trump to return to the presidency. so i would encourage the campaign and the president himself pick up the phone and call some of those generals they'll tell you the truth. they'll provide more insight into the instability in the general insanity that is donald trump and if you're a patriot, you're going to speak out and you're going to tell the american people the truth even if it cost should business or it gets you lit up on twitter, screeds. so what tell the truth, help president biden right now if he's going to stay in the race, god bless them. but be more interactive,

so get out there, speak to as many people as possible. and let's put this 90 minute debacle behind us. >> what you describe it's almost these days like telling a baby not to cry, but you have people who are more than willing to be very vocal. and then when a camera gets in front of them, it's almost like where you're asked to be a public source on something. suddenly moms the word and the patriotism you speak about. if that's how they define think for themselves, is very, very different and instead you do have people who are far more outspoken on the other side, steve bannon, for example, has been very outspoken about his views. he is somebody who is reporting to prison today and he said that replacing biden actually be a huge risk for trump, that that his best shot for winning is against biden himself. do you agree with that? >> no i'm not i'm not exactly sure because there's a coalition around president

biden. and he built a coalition to get them to that election in 2020. and i think that coalition is still with him. but we've just got to make sure that he is capable of the jab, not just today, but over the next four years into 2000 2028. so i don't necessarily agree with steve bannon on that having said that, that's not for me to decide the democrats have to make a decision. the president and his family have to make a decision. but i know what my decision is. i will not be supporting donald trump and i will help anybody that has contending against him. and you're right. it is a hard thing to do. you get death threats. she gets screeds, all kinds of nonsense, thrown your way but it's very important for me and my family to be on record telling people what i saw, telling people what my colleague saw and so when they make this decision about the

race, they're making it with great clarity. i would take president biden, who may be a little older and somewhat cautious in terms of the stutter over somebody that i think is unstable and as someone who's going to put a big hurt on america, not only reproductive rights, women's rights, family issues, but i don't want the handmade stale streamed in america for real life when he tries to deport 15 million people remember law, you can't just get them in the armored vehicle and pull them out of people's houses. you've got to put them in concentration camps before you can figure out where to deport them. so read project 2025 understand what they want to do to the country and get behind president biden anthony scaramucci. thank you so much for joining good to be here. >> thank you up next michigan governor gretchen whitmer trashing or report claiming

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the voters in the different constituencies. >> i want to get right to michael schnell, a congressional reporter with the hill, mike deb key, a former trump white house communications director maria cardona. i cnn legal commentator and democratic strategist, enter michael singleton, a cnn political commentator and republican strategist. and yes, the primary tonight's wordle is michael okay. because it's more than five words five letters whatever we'll try again, listen, i wanna go you first mri on this because a 2023 new york times analysis found that in the last 100 years biden has held the lat the fewest number of news conferences and actually, since any president, since reagan and i would just talk to anthony scaramucci. you've heard where he was talking about getting biden out there, talking to the public, getting more interactive. facing may be tough questions because he's good at the one-on-one. why is he not doing

that immediately i think that they are taking a beat to figure out what to do after thursday night, everyone understands just how problematic thursday night was. laura write that is not something that anyone can pretend. it didn't happen. and they are not they're having calls with their allies. the donor call that anthony talked about, they're having calls with other supporters, people around the country and they are knowledge's that it was a bad night. they're also though, saying that he is staying in this and that the contrast is what is still going to be so important than the selection that has not gone away. and everyone talks about the polls, about now, the majority of people don't think that he should be running or that he is in mental decline the polls, it really matter or not even the polls, what really matters is what voters think and what we have seen at least as of now, laura, is that the fundamental? metals of the race of the

election have not changed. and that, and that key parts of biden's coalition are sticking with him. and not just sticking with him, laura, because i've talked to several of them around the country, black voters, latinos, women, they are tripling down because not just of what they saw from biden in the debate, but what they saw from donald trump, which was so offensive and so scary and so just deliriously horrific that they cannot risk that man getting elected. >> me and my eyes are going from your mega space to the back of my other mom is on the back of my head are going my what are you thinking dollars, obviously you disagree. shovel the numbers that we saw there on press conferences was off. so i think it was 22 for trump at one point, the administration, if the average per year we decided that it was better for him to do these ad hoc press conferences as he's walking out to marine one, he

was almost every day. he was in front of the press answering questions. i can't think of the last time president biden was out answering questions from the press. so all of this conversation about he just needs to do one interview. he needs to show this level of energy with in a press conference or something else. i just don't think it's going to be i don't think it's going to change what the american people saw on thursday night. yeah, it was shocking to see that there's night call bernstein was speaking with anderson cooper are just a few moments ago and he seemed to describe this is not being a one-off listen please. >> your people, several of them who are very close to president biden, who loved him. they are adamant that what we saw the other night to joe biden, we saw is not a one-off that there have been 15, 20 occasions in the last year and a half when the president has appeared somewhat as he did in that

horror show what's the reaction? >> because i know you've covered the hill very wonderfully for the hill, frankly. and thinking about how this is impacting other races, how it is being talked about on capitol hill describe it. yeah. well, i spoke to a lot of house democrats on friday the day after that debate, and i spoke to one in particular who opened up when we were talking on background. so the sorts remain anonymous, but there's lawmaker said that they believe it's time for joe biden to step aside right now and i asked a lot of folks are saying, well, let's wait, take a breath, let the dust settle and see what the polls say and see what they shake out. i said, do think we should wait until that point or it should democrats just pulled the trigger and get a replacement now in this democrat said that it should happen now because no poles matter what the american matters with the american people saw on that debate stage. and this democrat told me that the majority of folks that they've spoken to, we're saying this behind the scenes,

that it's time for an replacement for joe biden. now of course that's just one democrat and what they're saying behind the scenes. but a lot of folks are saying that it's going to be difficult to brush out what was shown on national television on thursday. and there's reported seeing that there are a lot of down-ballot lawmakers, democrats, vulnerable democrats who were up for reelection this year, who are concerned about joe biden's drag on the ticket. look his poll numbers were already pretty low going into the debate. so there's some thought that he may not be too much more of a drag on the ticket right now because he was starting at such a low point. but there are a number of these vulnerable democrats, particularly in the senate places like montana, ohio, west virginia, where the upper chambers really up for grabs. and the fact that joe biden is now going into closer to november and a weaker position, could start to cause some concern among the sum of those vulnerable democrats as they tried to not just fight for the presidency, but to fight for their seats as well. >> i had a chance to be in michigan on the date of the debate and i was in warren at

mecole community college talking to undecided voters in this purple district that michigan went for trump in 2016, went for biden and 2020, but mecole county went for trump and there are some reporting from politico today. sure. michael, that michigan's governor gretchen whitmer said they called up a senior biden campaign official, say that michigan is no longer winnable for biden. now witmer is denying the reporting, saying anyone who believes that is quote, full of well, there you go. so i wonder what you think about this. you're my goal. the fact that this is the reporting she's denying it, and michigan a consequential state for both. i mean, of course, she's a nine and that's that's to be expected as a good chance. she probably didn't say it or something very close to it let by numbers, pulled numbers were already decreasing people were already worried about his mental fitness and cognitive abilities before everything was just confirmed thursday night. and i got to fill in in the next week or two. those numbers are only going to decrease further. i don't think

democrats can win this election with president biden as isn't there? millions of americans across this country? who have senior family members and they have seen them and a slower state. they have sleep, seen their cognitive abilities decline over time. and then you have carl bernstein news reported that we all have trust say, and i'm talking to reliable sources out of sand that this has occurred 20 times in the past six months he went on to say that the president is cognitive ability according to those people, is not what it was a year ago so here are the average american, let's take trump out of this you want someone who can actually do the job, not someone who's going to say what my advisors are going to do the job when i'm not doing the job after four hi problem when i don't want cut you off. i'm sorry to talk over you should michael, but one thing is most of these presidents have had a cabinet for that very reason. i hear your point, but i want to bring this into. look quickly, maria and the time we have very small amount of time, but you and i were having this conversation about how voters were actually receiving it. those who were on cnn espanol, and beyond who

were receiving information through translators, interpreters talk to us about that because that was really interesting why it was received differently. that's exactly right, laura. so i was doing the analysis let's us on cnn espanol that night and on cnn espanol one we see on and telemundo, which are the biggest, the three biggest spanish language networks. they use translators and they were doing focus groups and dials in a lot of the swing states of spanish speaking latinos who were hearing the speech through translators the independence, the non undecided latinos after the debate, most of them moved to joe biden because we can sit here and talk about how horrific that night was for joe biden. and it was. but you cannot deny the lies and the disgusting her rafic things that donald trump's said. when you look at what, how voters are receiving and it's not just latino voters is black voters to talking about black jobs, talking trying to pit immigrants against black voters, talking about ripping

babies from the arms of their mothers, talking about deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants talking about how immigrants are poisoning the blood of the country. this is what matters to voters. they understand that joe biden is old, but they also understand that donald trump represents an existential threat, not just to our democracy, but to their families. last word for mike go ahead the biden campaign needs translators for 18 to 30 two-year-olds because they they're losing a great spot according to the 18 and 32 doubling down because they also understand the future of this country that would represent him, donald democrats want to run on this message. i promise you, you will lose in november. so run on that message, maria right and wrong with donald trump's message of destroying our democracy, losing, bone number, say otherwise gasso sabrina carpenter came. this was that mia espresso moment right now and walk came to life and 55. you serious. thank you, everyone. thank you so much for

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