that t-shirt now, i want to come in comparison is the thief of joy stacey abrams brad turner. thank you so much. thank you. thank you and thank you for watching our coverage continues tonight on 360 democratic governors just left a meeting with the president at the white house and now voice their support for him and his fitness for office even as new cnn reporting from the highest levels of the administration indicates that series previous doubt among some is setting in about his candidacy. >> also tonight in our ongoing series of 53%, how president biden's debate performance affected undecided women in the swing state of georgia plus a whistleblowers new allegation that boeing put parts painted red. that means bad onto planes

that then delivered to airlines good evening. jim sciutto here sitting in for anderson tonight democratic governors have just emerged from a meeting with the president at the white house. all voicing strong support for him and his candidacy. it just the latest in a whole string of breaking news. at the end of what was another difficult de four president biden six days now, since his halting performance on the cnn debate stage in atlanta, late today, a democratic lawmaker told us this about the president's candidacy. it's over. we are just waiting for the announcement. he meeting mr. biden is not there yet. we'll take a bit of time to get there, but it's over that the view of one lawmaker that was followed in rapid succession by word as we shed of serious doubt setting in within the administration itself a senior official characterized the erosion of support among democrats as quote, waves

crashing into the shore also breaking tonight, democratic congressman seth molten went public with his own doubt saying in a statement that he now has quote, grave concerns, unquote, about the president's ability to win in november, which in turn follows arizona congressman roe revolver today becoming the second lawmaker to call for the president leave the race and two new polls showing him falling further behind the former president. in the words of a democratic lawmaker, i spoke with today, the campaign is at an acute stage. it is imperative over the next week that the president, the demonstrably show he has the energy and the ability to win the race and to do the job and with all that as a backdrop, that meeting at the white house, which is where we begin tonight with cnn's mj lee mj, the meeting just wrapped up. and from at least those three governors that we heard from there sounded like full throated support. do we know if that was a unanimous view among the governor's it's really hard to know, jim right now, because as you say, just a small group of governors came out after a meeting that

probably lasted well over an hour for the began the meeting around 630, but the one line that at least towards the end of the scrum, that the governor has kept repeating was in it to win it these governors made clear that they felt like they needed to have this meeting in-person with the president because they are unified in feeling that they are terrified about the possibility bloody of a second donald trump presidency. >> and they said, you know, we saw first-hand in the work that we do in our individual states, the threat that donald trump poses too all of our constituents to the places that we live in and that they don't want a trump presidency to come back. and that this discussion was really about making sure that there is a clear path forward to make sure that a democrat save in the white house and minnesota governor tim walz, who organize this meeting first by convenience. eating a phone call with some worried governors and then making sure that this meeting took place in person. described this as having been an honest

conversation and that there was a good the amount of feedback that was exchanged. and then the group towards the end said that they all pledge their support to the president, that this is a president that had had their back and that they are now going to in turn have his back his back as well. i do think we have some sound from the minnesota governor talking about this dialogue taken listen all of us are trying to figure out and just want to make sure as governors were on the front line of many of these things. >> we're in states. so whether they're swing states or not we're folks karen are giving us feedback and the feedback was we are all looking for the path to win. all the governors agree with that president biden agrees with that. he has had our backs through covid through all of the recovery, all the things that have happened, the governors have his back and we're working together just to make very, very clear on that, a path to victory november is the number one priority, and that's the number one priority of the president. so that's what we're trying to get done. the feedback was good. that

conversation was honest and open, and the actions that will come out of that will make sure that we're getting that message out see you heard there the governor speaking on behalf of the large group of nursing, but they are all in i think this is a space that we're going to have to watch. really makes sure if that is the case that every single governor attended this meeting with the president came away, that convinced that they are going to fully continue having his back. >> it's a great point that's three governors, their full-throated support we'll see you that is a widespread view. mj lee at the white house. thanks so much. cnn's jeff zeleny has more breaking news this evening in his case on the president's sudden and very apparent a brace, embrace of vice president harris geoff joins us now notable that public embrace four, she is his vice president, but what are you hearing about? what that means about his own decision-making regarding his candidacy. >> give it's clear that president biden was

intentionally trying to keep vice president harris close by his side today, inviting her to join in that democratic governors meeting that we've just been talking about, as well as a lunch as well as a campaign phone call. one adviser described it to me, is a simply sending the message that he's with her however, as questions mount here in washington about the future of the biden candidacy, i am learning tonight that several democratic advisers and party officials across the party are gusting contingency plans that should he decide to not run what would happen and the plans according to these democrats would be that he would throw his support behind harris and urge other party leaders to do the same in hopes of avoiding a contentious democratic convention fight. now, all of that is hypothetical. if president biden does not make a decision to not run, he of course, he says he is running, but jim, all of this simply is raising a spotlight on vice president harris, who finds herself in a historic holding pattern the stakes of this race could not be higher. >> it turns out perhaps they

could be particularly for vice president kamala harris those chants. >> of four more years suddenly ringing a bit differently for vice president at the center of a crisis consuming the white house and president biden's reelection campaign as the democratic chorus grows louder for biden to step aside a week after its fumbling debate performance, harris is at the center of it all playing the role of loyal running mate, joe biden is our nominee. we be trump once and we're going to be and again appearing even as she privately considers whether she'll soon have to pick one of her own if biden passes the democratic torch for months before election day but that remains a big, if with signs of a biden-harris ticket, suddenly not so obvious after all, harris is in something of a historic holding pattern leading the charge and defending the president moments after the debate to anderson, i got the point that you're making about one-and-a-half

hour debate tonight. i'm talking about three-and-a-half years of performance in work that has been historic, a careful balancing act of proving loyalty, yet trying to maintain credibility her futures the heart of a conversation among democrats or respect may run deeper than consensus over the parties. next steps, i think she's a talented woman and someone who should be in the mix. but this is not a matter of just passing the mantle to her. >> if biden makes the decision to step aside, senior democratic adviser is tells cnn he is expecting then to immediately throw a support behind harris and asked delegates to do the same former presidents and party leaders will be asked to follow suit in hopes of avoiding a contentious fight. a more open race, advisers hope would be for harris is running mate with a focus on leading democratic governors. paris has long taking a leading role in prosecuting the case against donald trump, let us be very clear about who is responsible

former president trump hand pick three supreme court justices because does he intended for them to overturn roe, a new cnn poll find terrorists within striking distance of trump in a hypothetical matchup, 472, 45%, or race within the margin of error with no clear leader, harris is stronger showing against trump is built upon or standing with women. >> 50% of female voters back harris over trump compared to 44% for biden against trump. and among independents, 43% backing harris, just 34% for biden, as we talked to voters like maureen glenn and wisconsin harris, his name often comes up when democrats express concern about biden's age even if something were to happen to a biden have every faith in kamala harris, and i think the biden or kamala harris has a sense to follow a qualified and good cabinet of

leaders. and as a team that they can run the country well jeff is vice president harris herself involved in this possible succession plan? jim, she's not she's busy being the vice president. she of course, was at the white house throughout the day. but look, these are conversations going on one democratic adviser explained it to me, it'd be malpractice not to plan for a contingency here because the election is four months from friday, but we did just get a new statement from the biden campaign saying this, that the vice president is will remain. i'm sorry, it says this. the president is and will remain are party's nominee and vice president harris is proud to be his running mate. reports suggesting they are the campaign are considering alternative scenarios are patently false. jim, the bottom line here is this shows one thing democrats in washington and indeed across the country in the party are concerned about the fight with donald trump. many think time is being

wasted hear that that's why they are talking about these contingency plans. but again, as of now, as of tonight, president biden says, he's all in and quite publicly you saying that as are some of those democratic governor is a short time ago, jeff zeleny, thanks so much. watch all right. some perspective. now, howard dean, former vermont governor, former dnc chair, former democratic presidential candidate, actually a ten who served as communications director for vice president harris. and to cnn political commentators adam kinzinger, van jones, it's great to have all of you here, depth of experience on this. so i look forward to hearing your views on where you see this going. governor, if i could begin with, you, you hear the support the president is getting from these democratic governors tonight, at least the three who came out from the white house to speak about it. but you are hearing lawmakers, democratic lawmakers who put their name to it saying he should leave the race and others raising serious questions do you sense of direction as to where this is leaning right now because the

president's own statements and the white house's own statements have been steadfast that he staying in i think you have to take him at his word. the president has a great record for the last four years, including supplying a whole lot of jobs to red states that aren't going to vote for him because he's the president of all americans, not just the few. and i think he's decided to run and that's if he runs decides to run. he's going to run because that's the way the democratic apparatus works. i do think some things have emerged out of this that i find to be very encouraging one is, should he not run harris? actually, it looks very, very good. i if she should become the nominee, i would i would suggest roy cooper or josh shapiro is a running mate but i think biden is going to run and this is biden's nomination. he's wanted he's done a great job for four years and he's also has the benefit of not

being a convict convicted felon you can make take your choice. i think this is up to joe biden. it sounds to me like he's made his decision to stay in i mean, the trouble is actually that even prior to the debate, despite those facts, no, he is not a convicted felon. >> donald trump is. yes, you can make an argument that he's had legislative excesses, bipartisan legislative sex successes with bipartisan support infrastructure bill chips, act, et cetera. but he was behind before the debate and new polling from the new york times shows that since the debate, trump has now increased his lead over president biden should he stay in, should biden be the nominee? is he the best nominee to beat donald trump no fridge door. >> oh, sorry. let me go to ashley first. i do want to hear your thoughts hour, but let me go to ashley. sorry. excuse me governor no. >> i think i think he actually is in the best position to be donald trump today's meeting was very important with the governors. the president has to

do two things. one, he has to stop the bleeding immediately. this meeting actually did that you don't want dissension from the governors a second thing that the campaign has to do is they need to pick they need to get on offense. it's the story about his strength in this campaign is in the numbers you just pointed out, the new york times poll, if you dig deep into that poll, joe biden's actually shrinking and increasing his margin with independent voters. he outraised trump in june. he outraised trump night of the campaign. he's outraised trump since the actual election. and here's the other thing that i think is most important. and that is trump doesn't have a strategy to grow beyond his base. there's very few indications that he's growing beyond his maga base and what's clear from those nikki haley voters in those independent voters, we saw it in the push balls is that the more they see if donald trump, the more they reminded of why they actually don't like him. so i think the president is in a strong position, but the campaign has to convince the people of that they need to

shift onto the offense and stop being in the defensive posture. but the president has to convince the people of the candidate abscess to be able to articulate those positions with strength and clarity. >> and the fact is that the debate he certainly did not do that. and van jones, i wonder what your thoughts are because i've heard that message for months, right? that look at the record and if he just articulates the record that will show in the numbers, but it hasn't it hasn't shown in the numbers. and those numbers are getting worse. and he didn't show an ability to make that case aggressively in the debate. so i wonder where that leaves us in your view. >> look, i just gonna be honest. i mean everybody comes on the air and it says all this great stuff but behind the scenes, it's full-scale panic. people are passing around legal memos, pdfs are flying back and forth on whatsapp, trying to figure out what are the options. how can you replace biden? how do you get them to

do it in a way where you feels respected as he should be respected who should kamala harris's vice president be the conversation? on air and the conversation off air are completely different. and so it's the same thing with you saw with the trump situation where people would come on and defend trump, then you talk to people. we've got a crazy candidate we don't have a crazy candidate. we have a great candidate. we have a beautiful man. we have someone who loves this country. we have someone who has given his all i mean, hits all to the last drop for this country. but he may not be able to get across the finish line and mature party has to take that into account. and that is what's happening. look, i understand people want to defend them and protect him and give him their space and the dignity to make his own choice. but there's a big conversation happening right now. now about how this happens, not whether kinda congressman kinzinger, you're republican, of course, you have endorsed president biden over donald trump because of the threat that you believe donald trump poses to the country, to america's national security interests, to democracy. it's

cetera, there's a view that trump would actually prefer biden to stay in the race, that he stronger against him from from your perspective, just on that that narrow point? who would be better to beat troubled to be better for biden stay in or for the democrats to find another candidate what this i can't answer because again, it would be better if it was biden, but with the caveat that they have got to pivot immediately. >> and like you said, and like everybody has been saying, make an aggressive case. he has to go take press questions and alive press conference. he has to not just do kind of pre-planned speeches, but go out there and show that energy. what am my disappointments i'll be honest. the debate was when donald trump made up the whole thing about the january 6 committee deleting evidence. we've never deleted evidence that all you have to do is google it let's. all over the internet. but that should be a time when you make the case in response to that. so democratic can make their decision. the only thing i'll say is this is no matter what decision that

is. and obviously joe biden makes a decision. make sure you're putting your best foot and best message forward. two defeat this uniquely unqualified, uniquely week and uniquely dangerous candidate and donald trump that he never attains the oval office. again how we're doing joining the new york times, the boston globe, editorial board, they wrote today the president biden should step aside and in their statement, they went on to make the case that having an open not primary really convention at this point would be exciting for the democratic party that once you get over, what would be an extremely difficult moment boat moment certainly for buying bit biden and his family decision that it might actually be for jazzing. and i wonder if you think that there's any substance to that no, i don't read at those editorials. >> and all due respect, they're very smart. people are riding them who have no experience and what it's like to be in an elected official. so the hell with the editorials learned

people, but they might his own teaching philosophy someplace so what is there's not gonna be chaos at the convention if john, if the biden doesn't run. and this is totally his decision, it's going to be harris. and that's just the way it is. turns out she pulls better than everybody else anyway, so it's just as well there's not gonna be a big fight of the convention. there will be a few people like dean phillips who put his name in and got what he deserved but it's going to be cooked. harris, there's some financial reasons for this harris is a signatory of the biden-harris campaigns, so that money can go to her. it can't willy nilly go to whoever else might end up. but there's just not going to be a bloodbath. there's not enough time for there to be a bloodbath. there isn't a single candidate other than harris who can muster the organizational ability to run a presidential campaigns because she's already got that ability

because she's been in running this campaign, are running in this campaign for months. >> well, we'll see through. we hit that point to that point. everyone, please do stay there because there is more breaking news next, a major democratic fundraiser is now calling for the president to step aside. also, what happens to the governor's point, the biden campaign cash. if the name biden is not at the top of the ticket, and later, how undecided women voters and georgia were affected by what they saw on the debate stage thursday night. and everything they've been seeing since has any of that changed the way they plan to vote key questions? we'll have the answers just ahead feeling from a backup god mere lax. >> what's naturally with the water in your body to help you go for your gut and your mood will follow for eight grams of fiber and try mirror fiber gummies how many times have you tried to clean a stubborn mess with no success? >> what you need is the all new

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joins us now with more on the money front namely, who that money belongs to, if not the president. if the president were to the side, by the way, this is a major, if of course, to leave the race, who exactly would have access to his cap? ash. and would that be only one candidate or would it be others? yeah. if there is one candidate who isn't joe biden, who would have access to that cash, it would be the vice president united states. she's on those fcc forms with her with him. she according to law, she has access to it any other candidate that democrats aside to nominate any other candidate they could not access that cash. those hunt that's tens of millions of dollars. i think cash on handling your no circumstances could could could harris say, i'm hoping this opening this up as she herself can have it, but no, it cannot go to the other candidates. it can not go to them. >> okay. so would biden have any input on how that money is spent if he were to say let me write a proviso here, right? yeah. >> so biden himself could form a pack right? and he could decide, you know what i'm gonna do an independent expenditure and i can spend it. but here's

the deal. it is written in the law that can't candidates have better money. their money goes further on television advertisements. they get a discount if they're candidates, a pack does not get those discounts. so his money wouldn't necessarily go as far more than that. heat can't really coordinate with the campaign if let's say it's not harris, and let's say he decides to form this back. he can't coordinate with them jason exactly right. it would be very, very difficult for them to understand. okay. this is why necessarily want that money to be spent because our campaign finance laws are so rigorous. course, what other options are there then for the war chest? yeah, another thing that he could do as he could give it over the democratic national committee and they could try and spend it, but they would run into very similar issues that that he would run into if himself formed his own pack. >> one other option is you could refund the money and then potentially go out there and asked the donors, hey, you should donate to this new person, but there's no guarantee that that would necessarily happen. i think the bottom line here, jim, is really simple. if harris is the presidential nominee, it's very easy to get the money to her if

it's not her than and it's a whole big ball of a mess. alright. ariane, thanks so much. thank you. so let's go back to the panel now let me ask you, ash, actually, the governor said it's it's gotta be harris in effect, you of course, worked for the vice president do you agree does it have to be harris, are there no circumstances where the party could say, well, this is a team effort here. we got open it up and see who's the best candidate well, jim, i hate to disappoint. >> i don't know the inner workings of the party that much, but i've been told by the campaign and that is the case, that the money would be transferred to here is but here's the reality is big donor money. it matters because it does signal to other big donors where they should put, should they continue to invest in the campaign but, but what matters most it's not the end-all be-all. but what matters most is what we just saw at the end of the this past weekend after the debate, which is that the president race 33 million. and that was from small donors everyday americans

writing checks and there's one thing i know, having worked on for presidential campaigns as you don't write a check to a campaign that you think is actually failing. so the fact that they've raised the most money that they ever had at have among grassroots, everyday americans over the past week is impressive. and that says a lot and that says that the american people have some level of confidence in this president and in this campaign. so wherein read stepping down what matters most and is a bigger indication of momentum and strength is a small-dollar donors and they're there for the president. >> fair point. i mean, as big donors go, i mean, i've seen big donors change their minds certainly when it comes to say a donald trump on the republican side, that van jones if what you're saying is true and by the way, it's cnn's reporting as well that inside the party, there is far more panic that is leaking out into public commentary there. what is your view of opening it up as opposed to the president saying, i'm stepping down. if he does, by the way, that's a big if i'm stepping down and

it's got to be heroin is there actually another realistic option to consider more candidates know? well, i mean, there isn't an clyburn has suggested that perhaps there should be. he's calling a mini primary where at least among the delegates, there would be an opportunity for people to to raise her hand but i do think that all things being equal, it's hard to imagine leapfrogging kamala harris if everybody basically has the same basic shot at trump then you should go with your vice president. now, if it turns out that she's seven points down into somebody else's clearly a favorite, then i think you have that conversation. but i meant to say one more thing, which is that it's exactly correct. there is a rallying to biden happening. you can see it in two places. you can see it in the fundraising with a small-dollar donors and you can really see it online today. the biden harris hashtag was without performing fourth of july independence day. so there is a rallying similar to win

donald trump in trouble. there was a rallying to him. the problem is, even though you have that as one current, the bigger current is a current of fear. this campaign is like a paper bag that somebody put on a wet counter that wet counter is the debate performance is you pick up that pace, that paper bag. it's going to fall out. and so what's happening is yes, there is a countercurrent of people who are rallying to him, but a lot more people who are beginning to fall away. that's what's happening. >> yeah. i like i liked that that image, that metaphor adam kinzinger, when trump was convicted there was a bit of a drop in his polling numbers. but of course you did not see republican lawmakers, newspapers, et cetera, calling for him to withdrawal is the panics threshold. different for democrats than republicans yeah, because the democrats aren't a call yet. >> i mean, look, if you look back eight years and basically up until the last couple of years, there have always been people speaking out against donald trump. and actually to

be honest with you, i don't think it's unhealthy for for the democrats to have this conversation. it's were still a few months away but what happened is all opposition, all free thought, all independent thinking has been quashed in the republican party. so don't take, and i see this online to some of the chatter people saying, well, that the republicans have so much more discipline, the democrats no, that's not true. the republicans are officially a colt with a platform that is simply we support donald trump and no issues don't become like them because trust me, it doesn't work out for this country or for the party in the long run. >> and it does it for comparison, you have democratic lawmakers coming out to say the president should step down. we need a strong hunger candidate. you don't have, as you had with trump or have with trump, people who served president trump, who say he's a danger to the nation, right? which is a john bolton or mark esper, or yourself, you didn't serve his administration, but you're republican who served at the time, so we should be clear.

those are apples and oranges in terms of comparison there, governor, when you look at this race, would you say the next few days are critical? because even from inside the biden white house, there was some cnn reporting saying that he's watching the numbers, right? that he and his team are looking for a plummeting of polls and that if the polls were to plummet, which i haven't yet, they've come down but they haven't plummeted that he might reconsider. would you say the next few days are going to make the decision for him? >> well my prediction after i saw the bad debate was this is gonna to go away and ten days. so i'd say the next few days are critical because ten days aren't up yet. and the attention of the media and the attention is american people is about ten days long every time something like this blows up the next thing we'll be talking about putin doing something awful or the elections in the uk, which will send labour back to the back to the government and maybe it will switch the subject because right now we've got a guy who's 81-years-old who made

some mistakes in a debate. so what he's got fight years of really incredible service especially, i truly believe and i teach this, i teach foreign policy. i believe that biden has the best domestic foreign policy record. i mean, domestic policy record of any president since lyndon johnson now, that's pretty extraordinary. and once people start focusing on that again, i think some of this is going to go away, but i could be wrong. i've been wrong before. i just don't remember when to your point, i didn't say to my team after the trump felony conviction that within a few days we'll be talking about something we weren't and it happens actually you been involved inside the room as it were your the room where it happened. >> what do you believe is going on behind the scenes of the biden camp tonight? >> well, i think they're trying to afford a phi. i think they're rallying around the president. there, obviously, meeting with surrogates, talking to governors, talking

to elected officials. there, as i said earlier, they're trying to stop the bleeding, but i think what they really need to do is to get on positive footing. i mean, to the governor's point, the president has an incredible story you, look at the numbers in the metrics that matter in the campaign right now from the infrastructure he's building on the ground to the fundraising. he's in a strong position. they've got to stop to use the congressman's phrase. we've got to stop bed wedding as democrats were prone to doing that, we've got to get fortified and get focused and be very clear sure. about not just what's at stake, but why joe biden is the best the best candidate to bring this to continue us down this path of progress. so then you're hearing from inside the white house, there are many just quickly who don't think this is just bad wedding. >> they think it's a real reason to reconsider if i'm wearing the pampers huggies and depends have you thought you can call me a bit wetter all you want to i'm concerned. i'm scared that the whole

enchilada is on the table for american democracy and the democratic party has to put forth the best person. no, but let me just say one thing about joe biden hi every single person images his name says they love and they don't say they've respect them. they do. now say they admire him. they do. they say they love joe biden this. we're not talking about somebody that we don't love and admire. we just want to get across the finish line and if it's the right thing to do, i know he will let us do it with somebody else. howard dean actually, etienne kinzinger jones. thanks so much to all of you. happy. fourth to you and your families coming up next, our randy k heads back to georgia to gauge the impact of last week's debate on a group of initially undecided women voters, all part of are continuing series, the 53% sunday, dr. sanjay gupta reports on hold for the devastating effects of alzheimer's reversing some i think that seems so preordained. it sounds extraordinary. dr. sanjay gupta report the last alzheimer's patient sunday at eight on cnn

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