artist prince. he also got a letter from the estate for prints saying please stop using the music and more interesting, anderson is what happened in 2018, pharell williams sent a letter to the trump campaign saying stop using the music because his hit song, happy had been used just hours at a campaign event, just hours after nearly 12 people have been gunned down at a pittsburgh synagogue. so there's a history of this with donald trump anderson, randi kaye. >> thanks so much. the news continues right here on cnn outfront next, kamala harris demanding israel reach a deal to release the hostages the vice president choosing to speak from the white house, seizing on her momentum, getting a boost today from some new poll numbers. >> is this a honeymoon or is this the real deal? so breaking a wake-up call, new reporting from inside trump's team about how they were caught flat-footed by biden dropping out. and now scrambling to get back on track. it's the backlash building over jd vance's childless cat ladies

comments. as trump maintains, vance will help him in the rust belt, but will he so harry enten has a deep dive on those numbers? let's go outfront and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, the vice president kamala harris, just speaking at the white house after meeting with the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. now, these remarks were not originally on her schedule and they were actually more extensive remarks and president biden made after his meeting with netanyahu, harris revealing details about what she called a frank conversation with the israeli prime minister. and she made it clear that she wants an end to the war in gaza. >> does i just told prime minister netanyahu, it is time to get this deal done. let's get the deal done so we can get a ceasefire to end the war let's bring the hostages home and let's provide much needed relief to the palestinian people. we cannot look away in the face of these tragedies we

cannot allow ourselves to become numb to the suffering. and i will not be silent today's meeting comes as her campaign is getting a boost from a new poll by the new york times. >> and what this showed was harris narrowing the gap against trump. trump got to post-convention gang bounce. but when you look at it all in aggregate, harris versus now four points ahead of where biden was pulling in the same poll before he dropped out, which puts the race and a statistical dead heat 48 to 47. now, we'll see, does this, do you just continue to surge up or not? obviously, you haven't had the convention bounce from the democrats yet the poll does show harris making strides with groups that biden had been struggling with, which includes perhaps most notably young voters, 56% of those between the ages of 18 and 29, back harris would just 16 percentage points more than biden that's a pretty stunning number. independents, 45 biden had 37 there. so doing significantly better there as well with latinos, 57% backer, it was 41%

for biden. so that is obviously dramatic and electoral politics in the united states, it doesn't get more dramatic than that. in fact, it's unprecedented for any thing to move like that so that's the reality of the situation. the question is, is it for now or forever but you do see that energy in the harris campaign events that we've seen so far to what they've been getting in terms of the boost from the polls today, harris speaking to an energized group of voters from the american federation of teachers while you teach students about democracy and representative government extremists attack the sacred freedom to vote is just think about it so we want to ban assault weapons. >> and they want to ban books in this moment we are in a fight for our most fundamental freedoms and to this room of leaders i say bring it on bring

it on bring it on. >> those three words. now, she'd been sort of a mantra, bring it on the same message that she had for trump today when she told reporters she's ready to debate the former president many of you been asking me about the debate and now i'll tell you, i'm ready to debate donald trump i have agreed to the previously agreed upon tempur tense debate. >> he agreed to that previously now appears he is backpedaling but i'm ready mj lee is outfront live outside the white house to begin our coverage tonight. >> mj vice president harris, delivering this address tonight. it's significant. you don't, you know, wouldn't usually necessarily be in the meeting and certainly not make comments afterwards. as a vp. but this is now a completely new situation, right? and it was a moment for her to make foreign policy statement also a

campaign moment outside the white house yeah, you're totally right about that, erin, i think the last two hours gave us a really clear window into how the vice president is very quickly trying to shift gears and adjust to this new role that was thrust upon her just four days ago, a cnn was tv pool for this meeting between the vice president and the prime minister and typically as do you know what happens is a small group of reporters goes into the room, we get a shot of the two liters meeting, and then we're quickly brought out and that's it. but instead, the small group of reporters in that room, but we were taken to a holding room and we were told by the vice president's team that she is actually going to deliver remarks as soon as that bilateral meeting wrapped up at which as you zero point out is not typical. clearly this was the vice president wanting to seize this moment that she was in and the fact that the prime minister was in town and had met with with her to put her own marker down on one of the most difficult foreign policy issues that she is set to inherit from the president if

she were to go on to when the presidency, once senior official, i was talking to right after the remarks that there was no question that this was a part of the vice president in the recent days trying to really we prove herself in a different way. and they described it as the vice president putting up punctuation mark at the end of a really eventful and important day and just keep in mind aaron up until sunday, israel was one of the biggest issues where whenever it came up, the white house would say there is no daylight between the vice president and the president. and i do think this is it's going to be a really important space to watch to see if in the coming days and in the coming weeks, we do start to see a little bit more daylight creeping between the two. >> all right. mj. thank you. two very much. here for our conversation. just said let me just start with you. it is interesting how quickly she was able to seize that moment, right? a moment where because of being vice president you she can be in that room and then looked like a commander in chief. right. and to take the end, she did it and she sees it and she went she went immediately to do that. so what

are you hearing from your sources to this fundamental question? and i know there's not necessarily definitive answer right now. but is this burst of exuberance and polls surge? >> does it have longevity? yeah. i think that's what folks are looking at. i think you point out in the court and point harris gets the benefits of incumbency as she's in the office, right now because i think we're going to see the white house intentionally leaned on her in these big moments to be able to show her someone who's grown over the past several years. i remember that was reporting on her last or they would make a point to say that she was more respected did globally didn't even she was appreciated domestically by democrats. that's been a place where she's seen a lot of emphasis. i think they're going to try to roll that out and i do think that even if the policy differences between her and biden and gaza are small, the rhetorical differences in the kind of empathy for palestinians that she's made a point to show over the last several months might be the kind of tonal difference you see between her and that the top, but to the point about, does this last part of that is the question of whether she can capitalize the upside that she clearly has an differences from

biden, the groups that are most marginal democratic voters, younger people, black and latino's folks were outside the process. they are clearly more favorably see her than joe biden. the question will be, does that turn into preference that actually moves most consistently? and i think that's going to have a policy question behind it that we haven't really gotten to yet right now, analyst said to this point about commander in chief and netanyahu happens to be the man at a moment that commander-in-chief got to meeting the would-be democratic commander in chief. and now of course, he is going to go meet trump tomorrow. oh, at mar-a lago. >> so he's going down there and that's significant so what are the optics of that, especially when trump came out and actually said thought it was interesting they got a pr problem is really you need to wrap this up. >> bhbh, basically, well, this underscores how much the whole world is kind of caught flat-footed by what happened that it was going to be job biden netanyahu came to give the the best yesterday thinking it was trump versus biden versus donald joe biden. and now you've got kamala harris as the person running. i think it was incredibly savvy of her

to give these remarks and i would say this, they were nuanced. there was a little something for everything she condemns sexual violence by hamas. she said it committed unwavering support, but then also leaned in i'm just saying she recognizes the plight of the palestinians this is i think we're most of the country is and something that joe biden has struggled to articulate during this crisis. it will be interesting to see how tomorrow goes. there's a lot of bad-will. i would say between trump and netanyahu, trump never got over the fact that he congratulated joe biden when he won the election. but i also think that that relationship can be heard guilt david. >> so let's just throw the poll up again from the new york times that's the one that shows harris statistically tied with trump. he gets a post convention bounce she gets obviously significantly more than that because biden was down six points in the same poll so what do you think david, in terms of? how, how real this is? i mean, it's, it's a moment in time, is it more than that i think it's real. >> the question is, is it sufficient? she what she is

doing is she's beginning to coalesce the the democratic base that helped elect biden four years ago go and the democrats need to win national elections. and that includes enthusiasm and participation and support from younger voters from the african american community, from hispanic voters. she's doing better than joe biden. was. those voters were drifting away from him, which accounted for a lot of his problems so that is a good sign. and the fact that she's close this gap so handsomely in just a few days is a good sign. but if the election were today, she'd still lose and she'd probably lose by a significant margin in the electoral college because democrats have to be ahead in the national poll to win because of the way population mission is distributed around the country. but this is certainly good news for her in the question is can she expand beyond and one other point, she does open up new fronts in the electoral map you know, one of

the reasons why she has suffered in the sunbelt states is loss among african american voters, loss among hispanic american voters in places like nevada and arizona, even new mexico. and the fact that she's doing better among those voters is a good sign that she might be able to fight her way back into those states and that would give her more options on the path to two 270 electoral votes. >> mayor bottoms. >> do you think that that opening of the electoral map, i mean, how huge do you think this is going to be for her? i mean, biden had essentially given up on i think it's fair to say north carolina. i would say georgia to and now are these really states she can win absolutely no way. >> i believe that we could win georgia in 2020. and here we are and in fact, the vice president is returning to georgia again on tuesday. she has been here multiple times. there was a whole list, but in

today's atlanta journal what constitution newspaper of all of the visit that she's made to georgia. and she's not only focused just on atlanta, but also some of the metro areas in some of the other cities in the state of specifically, she's gone a gwinnett county where there's a lot of diversity in gwinnett county, and i believe right now in georgia, thursday four 4% of the electorate is african american so that's going to make a significant difference having her at the top of the ticket and louisiana them is very real here astead the harris campaign trump's interview, they responded to it. >> they said 78-year-old criminal, right. emphasizing two important points there, age and conviction and then adequate is donald trump. okay. now, here's the thing. the people who are running this campaign are the same people same we're doing the biden campaign that is just not something that would have been said for if it did even noted. this is just there's just a

completely different aura yeah. >> yeah. there's a couple of things in that. just one statement i think shows the possibilities that harris has that biden doesn't the age contrast that she can make that immediately puts the plot lights back on donald trump. the same questions people are asking about biden in terms of fitness and diminishing kind of mental acuity will be placed on donald trump. i think the other one that she is comfortable with her prosecutor record this time. this is a difference from four years ago when i was covering her presidential run, she was frankly tie the knots between the moderate and progressive wings and not owning her criminal justice history. that is not going to be the case this time. you're going to hear her talk about that and kind of own that most specifically i really think the third thing is the dobbs decision gives their chance to be most offensive on the best issue for democrats, joe biden was not capitalizing on that issue in the same way that a lot of democrats are across the country. and she is better suited for that. >> well, she caught the trump campaign flat-footed because i think they were expecting progressive left kamala harris, somebody who supported the green new deal, or somebody who ran away from and our law enforcement credentials. and she is running a general

election campaign. she is running as a centrist democrat. her message, if you watch, he gives the same stump speech every time she speaks, which works in a three-month race, she's talking about paid family leave, relieved, rebuilding the middle-class is an economics message, a hint of reproductive rights. and then character over a criminal that's a message that resonates. she's not going through a litany of left-wing priorities, and i don't think that's what they expected from her. >> that's where she is most comfortable where she is right now. she was uncomfortable four years ago when she was trying to appease the left david, what do you think is is the backstory here to president obama? of course, he's going to endorse her. he'll probably do it with great fanfare but that doesn't change the fact that he's the last one to do it. and he didn't just jump in the water feet first yeah. >> well, i don't think he wanted to look as if he was putting his finger on the scale. he didn't know whether others would jump in the race and he thought he could help pull different strands of the party together if there was in fact a fight for the nomination and he wanted her to win this

thing on her own. and what she did was she went out and just organize the hell out of this thing in a very short order and secure the nomination within a couple of days. so now i think he's going to be a full full-throated supporter. they've been friends for a long time. i don't think there's any question of his support, but i don't think he wanted to be i don't think he wanted to be a kingmaker. i don't know if you call a queenmaker. i don't know a candidate maker. candidate maker here, but i think he wants to be a strong and avid supporter and i think he will. >> mayor bottoms. what's your single greatest? turn right now voter turnout, that's always the biggest concern, making sure that we get people out to the polls. >> it's great that we're all excited. i think the other great part about mount candidate, kamala harris as she does get to keep her day job. so we get to see someone who is

well-established police showing the world stage. she's met with more than 150 world leaders, traveled to 20 countries. now, we just got to make sure that we are getting people to the polls for its enthusiastic as we all are. if we don't get people to turn out, it's a turnout game that's it. every election is really amazing. >> let's take a step back and all of this and say it is amazing in the world that we're in in this country that it is all ultimately still comes down to turnout thank you all very much. >> i appreciate it. and next, j.d vance getting pummeled by the left for his comments about childless cat ladies, jennifer aniston speaking out it's almost very poignant as harry enten has some new numbers on just how helpful vance may be or may not be to trump in what for trump or the must-win road? that's belt states. >> plus the breaking news we've got incredible new reporting tonight from inside team trump, as they are scrambling to take on harris and they're surprising admission about harris, his appeal and just in new video of us fighter jets

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senator mark kelly of arizona, who's a vp potential pick for kamala harris, went on the attack against j.d. vance what i really worry about is what he would do. >> he in one heartbeat away from the president's 12 if donald trump and j.d. >> vance were back in the white house would be at utter disaster all right. >> those comments come as vance's entry to the national stage is off to a rocky start sunlen serfaty is outfront we loved this country and we are united to win ten days since donald trump named him his running mate, we got to, we're going to work hard hard for every single vote. >> j.d. >> vance is confronting a dramatically reshapes political landscape. we've got to make more of our own stuff. we're got to make it with our own workers hands and we're going to do it for our own people right here in the united states of america right here in michigan, as democrats elevate vice president kamala harris to the top of the democratic ticket.

>> i wouldn't be shocked if they tried to do another switcheroo if her poll numbers don't get a lot better because it's clear these guys don't actually care about democracy. >> now, vans waiting for harris first to pick his vice presidential rival, i was told i was going to get to a kamala harris and now president trump's going to get to the bader. i'm kind of off about that all while attempting to define himself on the campaign trail, while life wasn't all that different from a lot of people who grew up in middletown, ohio. it was tough, but it was surrounded by loving people with some moments that have fallen flat. >> democrats say that it is racist to believe. well, they say it's racist to do anything i, had. a diet mountain dew yesterday and wanted am sure they're going to call that racist too, but it's good you, guys and vance has been sparring with potential democratic vp contenders to the nerve that he has to call the

people of kentucky of eastern kentucky lazy. nobody gave me the governorship and nobody gave me a job father was i'm proud of that as vance depths board in the national spotlight, he's drawing more scrutiny from late-night comics. this woman said, i thought jd vance's the oldest sister on full house it finally, mike pence said, whoever he is, may god have mercy on us. >> and criticism of past comments like this. >> we're effectively run in this country via the democrats, be via our corporate oligarch's by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made. and so they we want to make the rest of the country miserable too. it's just a basic fact you look at kamala harris, pete buttigieg, aoc the entire future of the democrats is controlled by people without children. >> actress jennifer aniston issuing a rare political statement, writing, i truly can't believe this is coming from a potential vp of the united states. and kamala harris's stepdaughter, getting into the mix saying, how could you be childless when you have cutie pie kids like colon, i i

love my three parents and when asked for response to the criticism over his comments, a spokesperson from the vance campaigned claims the words of vance are being twisted and a representative of the vance campaign provided us with a statement from vance's sister but she says, quote, jd was raised by some of the strongest women i know and went on to marry an incredibly strong woman in usha. jd is a testament to the women in his life they've the attacks from the media and democrats that assume anything otherwise is vile, erin. >> all right. thank you very much. sunlen and jd vance's appeal or lack thereof in some cases is raising questions about trump's choice for his vp and trump trump prides himself on picking stars and no, i mean that, that that's part of his his mo known him for 20 years. you know what we all know this about him and it's a conversation about j.d. vance and harry enten kicked off on this show earlier this week when harry shared these

eye-popping stats and analysis that showed that vance has the lowest net favorable ability rating of any vp nominee following convention since 1980, which is as far back as polling goes, go back further. here. he's back with me now. it's more new numbers on vance and want to cline kind graphic up there. >> i will but you know, you did this. this is, this is crucial to compare to those that included sara palin and dan quayle and all those those vp's that you looked at the analysis you've got the rust belt where he's from and, he said, trump chose him for the rust belt, correct. okay. so what would we see in them and i guess let's let's cure it years of all they've laid it out. so we'll play it. yeah. >> he just said, look, i think got to go save this country i think you're the guy who could help me in the best way you can help me govern, you can help me when you can help me in some of these midwestern states like pennsylvania and michigan and so forth does j.d. >> vance help trump in those

states not according to the favorable ratings his favorable rating is below 30%. >> his unfavorable rating is up above 40%. that creates a net favorability rating of -16 points. he does worse in his tome region at -16 points than he does because in the average of all polls, which is a minus five point net favorability rating. so the people who know him best, the region that knows him best, they like him, even less than america likes him. and of course, as you pointed out, again, in that kind intro, is he has historically unpopular for a vp nominee coming out of his first convention as a vp. >> all right, so let's specifically look at some former republican vice president and presidential candidates. what do you say? >> yeah, you mentioned sarah palin. how about dan quayle as well? these are two folks who i think most people remember is not being particularly popular. the amazing thing was coming out of their conventions. they actually were pretty popular quayle with a plus 15 point that favourability writing. sarah palin with a plus 26 points net favorability rating. again, vance and minus five points is just off the charts

and falling off the chart in the wrong direction, not up above the chart, but down below the chart. the fact that he has historically unpopular even more so than vp nominees, who of course went on to infamy, at least in well, i mean right. >> so you look at what happened to those two and they plunged. some may say, well, maybe there's nowhere to go, but up for vance, but margins that's not true. it can get worse yett definitely don't know which way it will go. all right. so when this comes to the broader country, you talked about how, where the area that knows him best right now on the favourability likes him least, but undecided voters. and that's what this is about. there are more of them than a lot of people care to admit yeah. prior to the seismic shift in the race, many of them may have gone for trump now who knows what they're going to do? how does vance player? >> he doesn't play well with them at all. his favorable rating is just 5%, just 5%. hold a favorable rating 29% hold an unfavorable and that makes a net favorability rating of -24 points. that's worse than his net favorability ratings overall. the fact is, if undecided voters are going to make up their mind based upon j.d. vance, they're going

to make it and make the choice for kamala harris, 5% favorable, 5% favorable. ever heard of anything like that? >> i really haven't. there's still a lot of folks who are undetermined on him, but that 5% is not something i think is going to go on his wall a fan. >> all right. harry, thank you very much. >> and next we're going to take you to a sweet 16 that biden won, but barely and asked there what voters are saying about harris. it's part of our special voters outfront series. and we've got new reporting tonight this reporting is actually from inside trump's campaign. and what they're actually saying about harris and why they were counting on a blood bath after biden dropped out just, you know, that 80% of people have subscriptions. >> they forgot about. >> oh, that's dumb. i keep track of my subscriptions in spreadsheets and i always get it right. we'll see about that. all right. so i just don't iraq money in your phone and it looks like you're paying for two meal delivery kits why you see sprawling my excellent. >> got to call and cancel way

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the freedom not just to get by, but get ahead. >> the freedom to be safe from gun violence the freedom to make decisions about your own body. we choose a future where no child lives in poverty, where we can all afford health care, where no one one is above the law but well, harris and her message resonate with swing voters. swing voters that she needs to win over. nick valencia is in georgia tonight for the latest in our voters outfront series if the election were held today, margarita eber, line doesn't know who she'd vote for the elevation of vice president. commonly harrison, the race hasn't made things any clearer know it's not exciting to me. >> it's not like, oh wow, they easy answer. it's not an easy choice for me. it's still isn't. people are assuming that because i'm a latina woman that oh, i'm going to be excited about her and it's not that easy for me because i worry about character. we had

somebody that was the right hand of somebody that was not healthy, who was silent about it? and that concerns me. >> everland lives in gwinnett county. a key suburban county in a swing state, where she believes her vote is more consequential than ever. >> in a recent memo, vice president harris, his campaign said it sees securing swing voters like every line as part of a pathway to victory. >> do you think a lot of people are burned out with politics? this will absolutely in 2020, joe biden won georgia by less than 12,000 votes, becoming the first democratic presidential candidate to carry the state since 1992. >> but in 2024, we're finding that democrats have their work cut out for them if they're hoping for a repeat, how is it changed your opinion seeing her as a potential nominee for the democrats oh, yeah. >> 50, 50 yeah. you still have to learn more in research, more yes. >> if the election was today, you wouldn't know which way you would vote i am so down in doubt and doubt right now by

giving up place about three months we are ready. it's not like you know, i want to vote for her because she's black is not the reason this ship is because we just to make sure trump it's not elected. >> what makes you want to vote for trump what ebra martinez doesn't need any more time to make up his mind. >> he saw our camera and shouted trump 2024, i rather vote for trump, no matter what they're going to keep bringing the liberal agenda i'm i'm not for it. >> i'm just sorry for margarita ever line some progressive policies are troubling, but it's trump's rhetoric specifically on immigration that makes it hard for her to support him. i'm a conservative person and i just cannot make peace with anybody that uses hatred in their rhetoric. and that uses division as a strategy. >> i really struck airline also questions whether either outcome will even make a difference for her and her family.

>> i'm not from a privileged background. i was the first in my family to go to college and i went to a really good university and all of that and i feel like i've checked all the boxes, but relatively speaking, like my life's not easy and no matter who wins, the financial implications are not necessarily going to be easy for me overall, our biggest takeaway and talking to voters throughout the day. it's just the overall lack of enthusiasm about the upcoming election. voters just aren't animal faded in the same way they were four years ago. and for his instrumental as georgia was in 2024, joe biden, what's clear to us, erin, is that democrats are fighting against a lot here in 20 he, 24 and vice president harris's name just has an injected that excitement and just swing voters area. >> interesting. all right. thank you very much and let's go now to the democratic governor of colorado, jared polis and governor, i appreciate your time. it was very interesting what nic just said and i know it's early, but obviously we have seen that pop in the polls already. the woman he was speaking to, margarita eber line, she said people assumed because i'm a latina woman, i'm going to be excited

but this is harris, right now. she said she's not exciting to me. do things like that, do reports like this, give you any pause of a concern know, let's let's talk about different groups of voters and i certainly hear from a lot in in colorado, where politically diverse state as well, republican representatives, democratic representatives. >> first of all, democrats are excited. so you find people that were saying, you know, i'm voting for joe biden, but i'm not sure about it or i'm doing it to stop trump. now they have somebody to vote for, right? a powerful vision to protect our freedoms for our future now let's talk about those undecided voters, right? people that for months had been saying, oh, i don't know, i don't like donald trump. i don't like joe biden now, there is somebody knew there is that new option. she has to introduce herself and close the deal and she has the skills to do it. the more people get to know her that she she's smart. they see she's on top of it and that she that she has a powerful vision for moving our country forward and protecting our freedoms so just a few hours ago, the house and in

that number governor, there were six democrats. they voted to rebuke vice president harris over the administration's handling of the southern border. and i want to ask you about this because the border crisis of course, is something you know very well in colorado, denver got one more than 440000 migrants since the start of last year. that's 5% of the overall city population of the entire city of denver. its cost $58 million. that's a lot of money that could have gone. i'm sure to some really important needs that denver already had are you worried about what immigration could do as an issue to vice president harris while more and more people are realizing that donald trump is to blame for the lack of border security. >> we had a solid bipartisan bill. republicans, democrats investing in border security, locking down the border, and guess what, the republicans the house, aren't even allowing it to come to a vote. they refuse to pass it absent congressional action and investment in border security, there's only so much any president can do beyond rhetoric. and frankly, with

president biden's action that is that he's taken the influx of immigrants is down 55% at the border. so they made some progress, but they meet congress there are still locked down that border and secure it and pass immigration reform. >> now, governor, you've said you take a serious look at being kamala harris is running mate. if asked and i know you've been humorous about it and some senses, however, if this happened, okay, if it's you and you are vice presidential nominee, jared polis, you will be against j.d. vance and he is seeing obviously a lot of controversial comments he made re-emerge childless cat ladies among them. here are some of the others we're effectively run in this country via the democrats, be via our corporate oligarch's by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made it's just a basic fact. >> you look at kamala harris, pete buttigieg, aoc, the entire future of the democrats is controlled by people without children. and how does it make any since that we've turned our country over to people who

don't really have a direct stake in it governor polis, what would you say to vance if you were on the same stage as him? well first of all, look of all the people in the country that donald trump could have chose. this reflects his judgment. he chose j.d. vance. this is not somebody who is a normy. he's not a normal person. you don't attack people, whether they have cats or dogs, you know, some people have kids, somebody will have dogs and cats on people. we have two kids and a dog i mean, i'm allergic to cats or i'd probably the cat to why are politicians talking about that? what would the american people want to hear is your plan for reducing costs, for improving education for growing our economy. that's what we should be talking about, not attacking different kinds of families just because you don't like cats or dogs or whatever it is alright, we'll governor polis, i appreciate your time. thank you, sir and it alienates the cat lady vote, which is an important demographic. well, if one looks online, it says one of the most popular videos, and we all know it is cat videos. so that's just a fact. we'll see where that heads. all right, governor, thanks. i

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mean, just how it look ten days ago or two weeks ago. anybody talking about this potential switch on the democratic side, they thought that harris, they want harris, they wanted anybody but harris and that was the same thinking in the trump campaign. now, it's harris and you see the energy and you see the surge in the polls and all those elites got it completely wrong how much did this take trump's campaign off guard? >> i think not the switching out, the switcheroo of biden and harris or biden with harris. but the blowing up of kamala harris being a miami resident, i think in terms of hurricanes. and this looks like a tropical storm that found the right patch of warm water and the gulf of mexico and rapidly intensified into war hurricane. and what the trump campaign is realizing is, we have to batten down the hatches and we need to execute a new game plan and do it rather flawlessly because they are in a real tough fight now and they weren't just

what, 678 days ago. i've lost track of the days at this point, but the reality is kamala harris poses a much greater threat and challenge to donald trump than joe biden did. and donald trump's campaign knows that donald trump it appears knows that i mean, your reporting is that they her her appeal her cultural appeals specifically is something that he can see that your sources are telling you that the campaign, if they do not get that will underestimate it at their peril. those are the words those are the words as has been said before, politics is downstream of culture. >> and one of the interesting things about donald trump and a key to understanding is appeal and resilience in the electorate is that donald trump is a cultural figure before he was a political one kamala harris is a little different. she is a political figure and she is on the cusp of becoming, if not, is now a cultural figure. my 16-year-old daughter, for instance who could not give a hoot about politics, suddenly knows all of these facts about kamala harris through tiktok and that says

something she's breaking through to the other side. >> and that is crucial. you also talk about the trump campaign. if biden was replaced back to my original point about how they got it wrong and the democratic side got it wrong too, about harris, right? that trump's side thought it would be a bloodbath, an open primary that's really what they counted on well, i wouldn't say they counted out, but that's what they expected. i mean, they heard the conversation coming out of democrats out of biden's senior advisers as leak to others in the media, who basically said, look, they don't believe that kamala harris could win. and so the trump campaign heard that they also noted, look in 2020, kamala harris ran up pretty terrible campaign and did a bad job candidate. now, we are early in the process, tony fabrizio, who was the top pollster and strategic adviser for donald trump, issued a memo and by the way, he issued a memo because he sort of had to saying, look kamala harris is going to gain steam, gain momentum over the next few days. but it's eventually going to settle out. that's the trump campaign's position. but they do acknowledge that he is

serious and they do privately acknowledged that they sort of underestimated or i don't think they're going to be doing that going forward. >> yeah. >> loss is going to be fascinating. all right. thank you so much, marc, with all that new reporting. next, us fighter jets intercepting russian and chinese bombers together off the coast of the united states, we have new video tonight of that incident. and there's never been an incident like this before. >> plus breaking news, a father whose son is being held by hamas tonight. today, was in the room. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, about an asked him why, why hi, is there no hostage deal that father, jonathan dekel-chen is next the day you get you're clear choice dental implants, changes your struggle with missing teeth forever. it changes how you eat, how you feel and how you enjoy life it changes your smile. and now others smile at you. clear choice network doctors have

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china and russia together flew together and flew like this off the coast of the u.s. oren liebermann is outfront at the pentagon. >> oren. what more are you learning about this? >> well russia and china are trying to portray this as simply exercising together, increasing their cooperation and operating together, and certainly that is a part of this. we have seen russia and china pushing their relations forward. but of course it's where they chose to do this that's what's raising concerns in the united states. this is the first time russia and china have been intercepted gather the first time china has ever been intercepted in alaska's air defense identification zone. now, it is international airspace. russia and china are allowed to be there, but its airspace that the u.s. looks at as part of its national security to about 200 miles out from the alaskan coast. and that's where defense secretary lloyd austin said earlier today that these bombers were intercepted by us and canadian fighters. it's a rushing tu, nine-to-five bomber. that bomber in the top right of the screen there, one of russia's largest bombers and a chinese h6 bomber that is

china's largest bomber defense secretary lloyd austin said, they are aware that this may happen more, and they keep an iowa specifically for this, it's not uncommon for russia to be intercepted in alaska air defense identification zone or aid is again, what's noteworthy here is that china was intercepted this time china considers itself a near arctic nation, whatever that means, and it's trying to push more into the north and that means, as we just saw here in this video, pushing towards the united states and airspace, maritime space, the u.s watches very closely. i'll end by pointing out that earlier this year, just a few months ago, the commander of us northern command said, he's seen he's china trying to push north are doing that with cooperation with russia. and he said he was expecting something like this this year. the question now, how often does it start happening? it's not uncommon to see russian aircraft sort of testing the limits here and pushing the limits. now we're seeing them do it with the chinese all right. >> oren. thank you very much. i guess, near arctic, if russia becomes a vassal state, then

you become arctic. >> alright we've got more breaking news tonight as well. >> vice president kamala harris, just moments ago calling for a ceasefire deal to free hostages held captive in gaza. she said it's time to get a deal done and then she named every one of the americans who are still held hostage. which in gaza tonight there are american citizens who remain captive in gaza soggy daco, hen hersh, goldberg, polin edan, alexander, keith siegel omer, neutra the first name that harris said was sigi dekel-chen, held by hamas for 293 days. >> his father along with the other hostage families, sharply questioning netanyahu in a meeting today, asking him point blank why he was slow walking negotiations on a deal. this is according to long time israeli reporter barak ravid of axios those and jonathan dekel-chen joins me now as you have so

many times, jonathan, over these past, these past 293 days, and today, you were there now, obviously, being able to meet with the prime minister is not something you got to do you usually right? and he's here in the united states. he meets with president biden he's in that room. you were there asking and families. i know with incredible frustration, why has netanyahu slow walk negotiations on a deal for hostages? what did he say to you well, thank you. >> erin indeed, we six of the seven families of the u.s. hostages were represented at that meeting today. we are some very difficult questions to the prime minister mostly trying to impress upon him the urgency of the moment. hostages are dying in captivity we do not understand why more progress has not been made in in a

quicker fashion which would of course get our loved ones home but also end the suffering of over 1 million civilians in gaza. what we did get without going into the details of the conversation is a promise, both from the prime minister and from president biden that they completely understand the urgency of this moment. and they also understand that it is incumbent upon all sides and to work as quickly as possible to get this done. >> this is now such an unprecedented situation in every way you got vice president harris at the top of the ticket, right? she came out and spoke after her meeting with the prime minister. he is going to be meeting with donald trump, the former president tomorrow in mar-a-lago. they obviously had close relationship. president biden is the one who moved the embassy, the u.s. embassy in israel, that was very significant. they do have a tight relationship. him and prime minister netanyahu. and

yesterday at the speech to congress, netanyahu praised trump and trump also called for a ceasefire here. yes i'd make sure that it gets over with fast. you have to end this fast. it can continue to go on like this. it's too long. it's still much. you got to get hostages back do you think the former president trump has more leverage with netanyahu then president biden or vice president harris well, it's hard for me to make that qualitative judgment, erin, what i can say is that it is now clear given former president trump's statement yesterday, and i believe immediately after the rn's see that anyone who has the illusion that a change of administration the united states, is going to give more freedom of action. >> israel to somehow negotiate some bigger, better deal it's just, it's an illusion and therefore, there's nothing to wait for the israelis haley,

the israeli military and intelligence leadership has been absolutely clear that the time is ripe right now to complete this deal, we need hamas, obviously to agree to this and prefer the safety and the well-being of its own citizens. over continued warfare. but assuming assuming they're willing to do that, then it's incumbent upon israel to do everything it must to, to end, to end the conflict. >> now, jonathan, i have to ask you because there were hostages, they found the idf says. found bodies. they said these were hostages, at least in some of the cases, who had been actually killed on october 7, that they now are finding out, but they were killed how what is the latest that you've heard from the israeli government? have they told you whether they believe where sagui is? whether what they believe his condition is well, we haven't gotten any firm confirmation of life since late november, early december, and

it's anyone's guess on any