there were some lisa at least some lag in that information getting to the secret service. we also heard an update from the fbi as part of their investigation one of the things we learned today is that the former president is going to be sitting with the fbi for a victim interview is a standard part of this of this investigation. we also learned that the shooter used encrypted apps and an email to buy dozens of transactions essentially pay for dozens of transactions, buying chemicals for those improvised bombs that he made, as well as firearms purchases. all of this, of course it's going to be the focus of another hearing tomorrow over the fbi and the u.s. secret service answering some questions from a senate committee, pamela, and we'll be watching that closely for sure and impress. thank you, sir. so much. i'm pamela brown in the situation room. i'll be back here tomorrow with you. erin burnett out front starts right now

>> outfront next, an exclusive interview with jd vance's former yale law school classmate and close friends, sophia nelson, who vance refers to as so sharing more than 80 emails without vance and those emails taking on trump, the police maga voters will share them with you. plus kamala harris is momentum raising record cash, doubling down on calling trump and vance flat-out weird, that's the word they're using. now republicans are trying to turn the tables will it work? and kim jong un's tonight preparing his daughter, his young daughter, to take over the country. this daughter is not even a teenager yet, and it comes as new details emerge about just how poor kim's health is let's go outfront and good evening. i'm erin burnett out front tonight. will the real jd vance please stand up tonight? an exclusive interview with jd vance's former classmate and close friend, sophia nelson, someone

vance refers to lovingly as soaps in some of the more than 80 emails they wrote each other, that nelson has shared without front now most of these emails have never been seen before, and their emails in which vance rights openly about hating trump he goes after some trump supporters as racist and even go so far as to say he hates police. we're going to dive into these emails along with are many questions for sophia nelson in just a moment. but these revelations come as vice president kamala harris and potential running mates see an opening when it comes to j.d vance, here's the governor of michigan, gretchen whitmer, just moments ago at harris rally he's scared of us because democrats we want everyone to have a seat at the table i mean even cat lovers and dog lovers alliance grandma always said i needed to find at

least one good thing about every person. so i'll give jd this he is efficient in one sentence. he insulted women, black people, and jewish people all right, vance's big debut as trump's running mate has been off to a rocky start as people are questioning what he really believes and what he really stands for. >> in one of the emails that sophia nelson shares with that's from 2014 vance writes, quote, i hate the police, given the number of negative, negative experiences, i've had in the past few years. i can't imagine what a black dye goes through yet after being selected as trump's running mate, this is what vance has to say about police they are protectors and we back the blue in this country then there's another email, this one's from 2016, it's never been made public before j.d. >> vance writes this about trump quote, i hate him and what he represents well, of course that we now know to be very different from how vance

speaks about trump. now president trump represents america's last best hope to restore what if lost, may never be found again and vance has also spoken disparagingly of trump's supporters. >> so this is a 2016 email that he writes to sofia saying a quote, disproportionate number of trump's supporters have quote, racially offensive views. those are the same suborders, of course, he is now according himself you guys, i love you. >> i wouldn't be here without alright, outfront now, sophia nelson, vance's former yale classmate, and a close friend. >> and this is sophia's first national television interview and an outfront exclusive see, i really appreciate your taking the time here to share these things and i know oh, that, you know, he took a lot of thought to decide to do this. you and j.d. vance, of course, we're friends, close friends so i understand your transgender public defender in detroit, vance now is one of the republican party's staunchest

culture warriors. so when you look at what you're seeing now, sophia, j.d. vance running as trump's vice president do you see any of the same person that you knew in law school? >> first of all thanks for having me tonight. erin. no, i don't see any of the man that i got to know and care about. it's really heartbreaking to see him become so callous and divisive so i wanted to go to some of these these emails that we're grateful you shared with me. it's important for people to understand sophia who he is and who he was one of your emails from him this never before published. vance says and november of 2016 and i quote, i really see the racially offensive views of trump's supporters, not all of them, of course, but it certainly disproportionate as co-existing rather than driving his support i guess. >> let me just ask the question to you this way, sophia, then, because this is an email and

you had many conversations with him to advance believed that donald trump himself was racist my understanding is that he certainly did, yes and so do you recall any of the conversations you had the two of you on topics like that? i mean in a series of emails that i've shared with you, he's called trump morally reprehensible, a very bad man. and he indicated that he wishes trump would tone down the racism that all indicates to me that vance was well aware that trump traffic and racism and that certainly not all i agree with. jd. they're not all it's the people that voted for donald trump are racist. i know. they know. certainly there are many people who voted for barak obama. and then voted for donald trump however, there is extreme undertones of

prejudice, racism transphobia, homophobia, islamophobia that drive the maga movement and is now something that j.d. vance himself is trafficking in. >> i want to ask you about some of that in a moment. first though, on the issue of race, i know that vance expressed to you an openness on the issue of reparations, which obviously is anathema to the trump position, the maga position. he also expressed sympathy for the black lives matter movement and in one exchange with you in these emails you shared with us, sophia, he was reacting to the killing of michael brown, the 18-year-old black man who was shot by a white police officer in ferguson, missouri. so this is an email all the way back from 2014, october vance rights. you quote, i hate the police given the number of negative experiences, i've had in the past few years again, imagine what a black guy goes through. and we just heard a moment ago, vance call police are protectors and we back the blue in this country but, but, but, but, but sophia for you, how passionate was he on the

issue of police bias and brutality? >> i mean, at the time i believe jd was genuine in the email that you just quoted, and it certainly reflects my experience as a public defender here in detroit. i watched body-worn cameras every day and represent people who the police treat with callous disregard and excessive force and i think it's a huge problem in this country and we see it regularly young woman was just murdered in her own home. there has been rallies around that recently i knew jd to be a genuine, thoughtful person who is compassionate towards people who are different from him. that email, i believe at the time, genuine, really? his views so let me ask you about this because when you talk about the kind of person that you believed him to be, we did reach out to vance's office for a comment on your decision to publicly share your correspondence with him with us. >> and here's what a spokesperson for vance says, sophia, they say, quote, it's

unfortunate this individual chose to leak decade old private conversation patients between friends. senator vance values his friendships with individuals across the political spectrum. he has been open about the fact that some of his views from a decade ago began to change after becoming a dad and starting a family. and he is thoroughly explained why he changed his mind on president trump despite their disagreements. senator vance cares for sofia and wishes sophia the very best. now, i want to ask you about that last sentence in just a moment. sophia, if i may, but first, what he's saying here is that these issues of which we've touched on some from reparations to the police to racism that this all change because he had a family because he became a dad. do you think that that could be the case i'm not i don't live in jd vance's head, obviously, but what i've seen is a chameleon, someone who is able to change their positions and their values depending on what will a mask them. >> political power and wealth,

and i think that's really unfortunate because it reflects a lack of integrity. this isn't someone who evolved on one or two issues. and with new information, this is someone who's change their opinion on literally every imaginable issue that affects everyday americans in this country. and change the way they speak about people. so the j.d. vance that i was friends with for over a decade was compassionate and we've frequently disagree. that's reflected in the emails but he always approached conversations with respect and kindness, which i think is so essential and what we've seen with donald trump it's a callousness and cruelty and the way he talks about people a bowling, right? he, he's a bully and he calls people names. and when jd decided to run for the senate in 2022, he started adopting that similar persona. so anathema to who he used to be and you've reflected in his twitter so obvious so

reflected in the cat ladies comment and it was reflected in our interpersonal communications and the end of our friendship he just started talking in this divisive, dismissive, and cruel way about people who are different from him that it's just not the person that i used to know. >> i want to ask you about that. first i just want to say he wrote about you. he did feel a deep connection with you. i just want to emphasize you're talking about a ten year friendship. ten years is a long time to have a deep friendship with a person. he would think, you know them well, he wrote about use of via in hillbilly elegy. he says he's talking about a class and he says one of those classes, a constitutional law seminar of 16 students became a kind of family for me paul ourselves, the island of misfit toys, as there was no real unifying force to our team, a conservative hillbilly from appalachia, the super smart daughter of indian immigrants a black canadian with decade's worth of street smarts, a neuroscientist from phoenix and aspiring civil rights attorney born a few minutes from yells campus and an extremely progressive lesbian with a fantastic sense of humor among

others. but we became excellent friends now, just to be clear here, sofia, the last friend he describes is you all right. he describes you as extremely progressive lesbian and a day after his book was published he writes to you, he calls you soaps, which i guess was his nickname for you. and apologizes for referring to you in that way. and he goes on to say, i recognize this may not accurately reflect how you think of yourself. and for that, i'm really sorry. i hope you recognize that description came from a place of ignorance. when i first started writing years ago i hope you're not offended, but if you are, i'm sorry. love you. >> jd so when you think about that, what does that say about the person that you knew this support that he i don't know. was it explicit or implicitly gave to members of the lgbt? you community well, again, the j.d. >> vance that i was friends with, he might not have always

agreed with me. we certainly again, had our differences and i didn't always agree with him, but we knew how to talk to each other respectfully with kindness and compassion, you we were both raised in the midwest i'm from a small town in west it's michigan. and i was taught, we treat others how we want to be treated. and so you don't have to share a face or a racial background or a political background, was your neighbors to treat them with respect and dignity and jd reflected that and our relationship and the jd the events that i knew was supportive of marriage equality and had lgbtq friends myself included and when i had gender affirming surgery in 2012, jd delivered me baked goods when i was going through my recovery again, he didn't necessarily fully understand a transgender identity that's fine. i don't need everyone to do that. what i need from people is a sense of decency and respect, which

is consistent with the midwestern values that i was raised with and why i returned to the midwest. i've lived here since 2013. this is where i was raised. and the rust belt is filled with diverse group of working class people who again, we don't always agree on tax policy on whether we're cat or dog people. but we know how to treat everyone with kindness and when you talk about that, he brought you baked goods when you went through gender affirming surgery and i know so figures saying that was 20 2012. >> so then you had a long time of being friends? my understanding is when vance came out in support of a state law banning gender affirming care in 2021, which is my is when he did that and he's now since proposed a national band is calling it a call that surgery that you went through gruesome can you share with us how you ended the friendship with him i i never explicitly said we're not friends anymore and i want to be clear. >> i still care about jd and

usha and their family deep down part of me, he's hopeful that he'll snap out of it or something. i don't know but that was incredibly hurtful and i communicated that tim i communicated that i was disappointed that i was hurt and that i was scared because i remember what it's like to be a kid and think there's something wrong with me that terribly scary. and i thought i've never going to be able to be my authentic self because it won't be safe. i won't be accepted. i won't be able to get a job and i tried to explain that to him. i told him what i went through as a child in response to his public support of criminalizing access to gender, affirming care. and he was very dismissive and again, the tone that i had been the basis of our friendship

across political differences, had completely shifted. he had gone from a compassionate thoughtful, kind person to mimicking donald trump's derisive cruelty i have many family members and friends who are independents, who are republicans. but here in the rust belt we treat everyone with kindness, and that's just, i think a core value. and it's a core value that j.d. vance has turned his back on in order to hamas money and power so you mentioned the family and that you wish jd anousha. well, i know you know her well, you attended their wedding, right? she was super smart person. he is referring to in the book. she was one of the registered democrat recently worked at a san francisco law firm as you well know, sophia, but describes its culture as quote, radically progressive. she did clerk though for more conservative supreme court justice this i mean there's just so many people who are so curious about her and who she really is and what she really thinks. and she's being

subjected to all the things women are subjected to, you know, whether she colors her hair and makeup and all those things that people do what what can you tell us about or do you think she believes in what her husband is currently saying why don't think anyone knows what jd or usha believe? >> because they have literally changed there principles and every imaginable issue however, i was never as close with usha as i was with jd. i will say that the woman that i knew was also incredibly kind and brilliant, a really hard worker and someone i understood to be kind of a central technocrat and leaning left of center, i would say someone who it's come out publicly was very upset and frightened by the events of january 6, as was jd at the time and so what i think is

reflected in both of their changing of their principles on every single issue is that their core value is amassing money and power, not the integrity and kindness that i think our core values of everyone in the rust belt sophia, thank you very much for sharing all of this with us. >> i know you did it after great consideration and i appreciate it. and everyone watching does too. so thanks. >> thank you for your time, erin. yeah, absolutely. this was a difficult decision for me because again, i do care about jd and i'm a private person. i i'm not i've never been on national tv before. i didn't as is not comfortable for me. but i thought the american people had a right to know and i thought trans kids needed to know that these maga people they're not actually scared a view. they don't think there's anything wrong with you. they're engaged in political opportunism and you're going to be all right all right, sophia, thank you. thank you next, we

do have some breaking news. >> we are just learning that one of the people who said to be on kamala harris, his shortlist for the vp has just taken himself out of the running. so we're going to tell you who this is literally just coming in here. so if he and i were speaking plus biden making his first major trip and speech since dropping out and telling the nation he is dropping out the daughter of lyndon b. johnson, president who also chose not to run for reelection, was by biden's side today and she's my guess and also more breaking news, we have new text messages and bodycam footage from the day trump was nearly assassinated. and it reveals some new things erin burnett outfront brought to you by etsy jeep commerce human for original items under $50 to get him ready for college. >> even if they're not choose from furnishings before the dorm vintage signs, and more, we you want unique items to

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state's lieutenant governor performing his duties if he was pulled out of the state jeff zeleny is outfront live from the key swing state of michigan so jeff, obviously this is a development some had pointed to north carolina as you're changing the map and that the governor there on the ticket could have assisted with that, but now he's making it clear that that will not happen. what are you learning about the vp? stakes tonight erin, we know that this is just one more example. >> this is a very accelerated search process. i am told tonight that this decision could come within the week or certainly before august 7. my colleague, mj lee and are reporting that north carolina governor is no longer in it's iteration withdrawing his name. i am told because he simply was not at the top of the list age has been a concern. i'm told from some in the harris campaign, he's 67-years-old. of course, she is trying to turn the page and look toward a more vigorous campaign, a more youthful campaign, perhaps this does not mean that north

carolina is not still a battleground state in the eyes of the harris campaign that absolutely is. it does not change there the relationship sort of ironically, the governor and a vice president harris had the longest and closest relationship. we are told of any of the contenders on the list. they served as attorneys general togeer and their respective states of factors. it's based on comfort level of course, but it's also based on what can help in this campaign. i'm told that extensive research is being done around pennsylvania. governor josh shapiro, as well as arizona senator mark kelley, as well as potentially other people on that list. but those two are among the contenders who are getting the closest look tonight, of course, minnesota governor tim walz there's also been in the mix and the harris campaign has been very watching with interest at how he has been performing and what really has been sort of a rolling set of auditions. we saw that in pennsylvania tonight as well the governor there, josh shapiro, he said vice president

harris is not only ready he's dam ready. he has been outperforming, really showing what a running mate could be. but erin, this all comes as republicans clearly have been knocked off balance a bit by j.d vance and some things in his history what he has said before that is one of the reasons that even though this surge is accelerated, i'm told th know anything that you said previously can certainly be used against you in the coming race? >> absolutely. all right. as you stand in michigan now on the latest ap poll, i know tide and obviously biden, but down significantly their prior to that. thanks to jeff zeleny. okay. panel here, max rose, let me start with you. i'm just going to take a pause here and say, we've really gotten a new world. we're now 67 is too old. i mean, i think we can just back off that a little bit here, but okay but right now, it's out. he doesn't want to be considered so here we know significant betting around kelly from arizona and josh shapiro from pennsylvania among possibly others that could be

tim walz pritzker. we don't know so who do you think that she should choose? >> look, i think she needs to think about the electoral map and governor shapiro stands out in that regard. here's the interesting thing about the vice presidential decision. it is, it's an opportunity for kamala harris to show her stature as the future president united states, and to make a decision of extraordinary significance and what everyone says, who is around two, who has seen her make very important decisions if she's going to be ruthlessly pragmatic, she's going to focus on winning and she's going to focus on the necessity for leadership in the future. and all i've collected if you heard is that she's she's ready to make a great decision i know that you've got nothing against josh shapiro. >> in fact, quite the contrary, but that brings you to a very different conclusion. ayesha, it does. >> so let me just start off by saying any of these folks that are being vetted would be great. >> vice presidents for me though, as a democrat who thinks about the long-term

implications of picking at our bench when he can shapiro in pennsylvania, we need mike kelly in the senate from arizona. what happens when they're gone and now we've got to replace them i got to tell you, i'm actually team pete. i think that pete buttigieg would really invigorates the base create a historic ticket in a way that would be impossible to beat because the democrats always, when, when we are animated and excited and to me having a younger, brilliant person on the ticket who can speak about every issue who has experience as a mayor, who can galvanize the future of the party as a gay man and who is also a parent of toddlers, fills and checks a lot of the boxes for people that we need to get off the couch and go to the polls. >> and i will note, by the way, right. and mark kelly, the senator, you have to replace him. that's a swing state josh shapiro is the governor of the only split legislature in the country that is no, no, no guarantee which way pennsylvania would go lulu the whole situation though actually is amazing because there's a

report in the washington post that that j.d. vance actually says that he describes harris's campaign is a quote sucker punch. so he's a private fundraiser over the weekend, apparently tells donors, quote, all of us were hit with a little bit of a political soccer pints. the bad news is that kamala harris is not have the same baggage just joe biden, because whatever we might have to say, camila is a lot younger and kamala harris is obviously not struggling in the same ways that joe biden did obviously, fund raiser those moments where sometimes people can be a little maybe too honest, but lulu, he's admitting there that it's a political sucker punch. >> yeah. saying the quiet part out loud, which has been something that the gop campaign has been doing quite a lot of recently. i mean, it's the truth what we know about this electrode is that they did not want by enlarge these two men to run against each other. biden and former president trump and the teams, so to speak. exit made the switch. what are the democrats and now you see kamala harris with a lot of enthusiasm. these numbers of enthusiasm are

really important because it is going to get people off the couch. it is going to get people to you know, enthusiastically support the democratic ticket. the base certainly, and the big question is, can she bring in those? as voters that perhaps were on the fence? they're not that many of them. we must say, but there are some and that's what i think the vp does really matter. i don't think the vp matters as much for former president trump because he is the central figure of the republican party he is the son throughout which everything rotates but i think for the democrats, it's going to be interesting who she chooses and who she chooses will say something about where she thinks for vulnerabilities or does she think that immigration as a big vulnerability she might go for a kelly, is it the white working class? she might go for a josh shapiro or does she want to animate people and inspire them than it is indeed a pete buttigieg. so who she chooses will say a lot about where she thinks his campaign is headed. >> scott trump has had a gift for coming up for of nicknames with people from little marco to crooked hillary that stick

and somehow get at just the one, the one movie that you have that you didn't know until the assault was thrown on it, right. and democrats have never been successful going the other way until now. they've been trying something completely different and completely on like the democratic party, which is to just throw word out there and they're the word that they're throwing out there about trump and j.d. vance is weird. that's it. weird. listen to this some of what he and his running mate are saying well, it's just plain weird mix guys are just weird. >> that's i mean, it's like weird what he does right i mean, on the other side, they're just weird no matter what kind of weird stuff they keep saying, what was weird was him joking about racism today i'm talking about diet mountain dew okay. so they've got the talking point, scott, they've got it. and then you chuck goal, but it's the kind of word that if it sticks in people's minds, can make whoever you're talking about look kind of silly and small. are you worried about it? >> no, because i think any

republican would say, i think the democrats are weird. i mean, i think it's weird that kamala harris is in the process right now of trying to repudiate every single position she ever took when she ran for president. i think it's weird that they're currently engaged in massive racial segregation of all their supporters mean you could go on and on and on about all the weird things that kamala harris this is doing, all the weird thing. she's done. i think it's weird. these phrases she uses in her speeches all the time. so i don't think the campaign is going to be fought on who's more weird, who's seen as more weird. i think it's going to be fought on one thing and it's going to be on who can do the best job as president and the wall street journal poll this week donald trump at 51% job approval, the biden-harris ticket is still down in the mid 30s. it's going to be fought on cost of living. it's going to be fought on immigration and who can make my life better? these semantics about weird, that that's not the issue for swing voters. it's why is my life so expensive and why is my community unsafe and overrun with illegal immigration? >> matt congressman rose, can i just ask you a question because scott to spread something up important the 51% approval rating for trump i mean,

that's really amazing for trump. that is a really high approval rating. so just take everything else out of it. she surged in the polls, her approval rate. >> do you see that as something democrats should be concerned about absolutely. absolutely. and that's why they're going to spend an exorbitant amount of resources actually reminding the american people, but what life was like under trump the hysteria, the constant chaos, the utter in competency and look, he's still has an understandable bump from what happened at several weeks ago. in understandable bump from officially becoming his party's nominee. >> that is all going to change. >> there is no question that the momentum is on the vice president's side right now. and i don't want sees that changing for for quite some time. >> well, and there's no 99 days, so i mean, it sends you want to run out the clock, right? i should i want to ask about sophia? nelson, who i just had on jd vance's friends. they were friends for ten years she is transgender public

defender in detroit and he was supportive of her and she went through her surgery and then he describes she describes him as changing and she describes it as cruelty shrubs. she describes him as a chameleon but he, and he and his wife she believes are now motivated by money and power. what was your reaction to hearing sophia well, it was the ultimate shame on you j.d. vance, right? shame on you for being such a hypocrite and a flip-flopper and doing that on the backs of vulnerable people because public defender been to yale, she actually has the agency to be able to have this conversation and reveal the truth. but there are so many young trans kids who are under assault right now in their schools and their families in their churches, all because of donald trump. and now j.d. vance, the flip-flopper, who is saying really horrible things. that's putting their lives that's at risk. and so i'm glad that it's come out, that he's a hypocrite, which we all knew. because think about all the stuff that he said about

donald trump. and now is donald trump's best friend. but it really gives me pause that you have someone who can so quickly turn on a friend. because what that says about their character, that this isn't just that's ideology. this is someone that you have known for over a decade that you probably loved and cared about and came to the hospital right? >> clearly. and for you to turn your back on someone who is your friend. what are you going to do to us as americans? >> scott, you know, what what is the significance of this? i mean, we went through at emails that sofia chose just share with us and her conversation she had with j.d vance over that time and you heard it right he wrote about hating trump and you knew that he had had that point of view he talks about some trump supporters is racist in one of them, scott, he says, i hate the police given the number of negative experiences, i've had in the past few years, i can't imagine what a black guy goes through. i'm just curious, scott, whether you can believe as genuine his point of view now, on issue after issue because sophia is correct that what he

presents in these emails on issue after issue is now really the polar opposite of where he is well, i don't think there's anything different in these emails and what j.d. vance had said on cnn when he worked here several years ago and what he now says is a change of opinion about a number of things including donald trump. i mean, my impression is that it's kind of weird for somebody to be your friend and to say, i care about this person. but if you don't adhere to all my political pull views, i'm going to release all of our correspondents to the new york times. i mean what kind of a friend is that? i mean, i get it. everybody's motivated and emotional about politics right now. but lord have mercy. does any of us on this panel have a friend that you're worried was going to release 10-year-old emails to the new york go ahead, lulu i think what's important here is that he's now running to be the vice president united states. >> and so what his opinions were, his character, what he believes is of course incredibly important. and frankly, what j.d. vance wrote

is there in black and white. this isn't sofia's views. this isn't oppressions. people can read for themselves what j.d. vance once believed and compared to what he espouses now. and those are very, very different opinions and he might have had a conversion he might have become a true believer, but it's in a very short space of time. and frankly, this is incredibly damaging and it's jd vance is the gift that keeps on giving to democrats go ahead as asia. well, we don't need j.d. vance as a gift because here's the thing that i want to remind us of the democrats have a very clear path to victory. and now multiple paths to 270 in a way that the republicans have a very, very narrow one in terms of who their constituency is. we can not at all overplay the fact that in just the last week we have seen black women and black men and lgbtq people, the whole queer communities come out latinos, native folks into spirit folks, as well as white women answering the call. and

tonight right now, as we sit here, you got white dudes for can i can i ask a question coming out in support of this candidate and you win an american when you get all the people behind you, not just a small faction of them quickly, scott can i i just i am i am mystified by the newfound democrat obsession with racial segregation. >> i find all this racial segregation mean, i guess the party is getting back to its roots, but i mean, i find this crazy. i mean, that you are principally organizing all of your supporters by race, enforcing them all to get on these calls. and you have to be a certain race or gender to get on the calls. i find this to be silicon the bizarre behavior, and we don't need you to understand it because here's the thing. we know that we win when we bring together people and have a big tent coalition you're not make sense hiding them. know, we're actually bringing them together and providing him just look at the numbers. >> we don't he was debate this. look at the cash and look at the support. >> this momentum that you see

in just seven days is greater than any other presidential campaign in history. >> so say what you will bringing people together, who we can be proud of, who we are whether we're black or queer or otherwise, is the winning strategy, alright, we're going to leave it there a lot more to come out with it, go to the white guy. the white guiso it's the white. do i do it's only all right? next per father, of course, you may remember also chose not to run for reelection because kim jong un, now preparing his young daughter to assume control of the country as we are learning tonight, some really important new detail hales about kim jong un's help chasing life with dr. sanjay gupta. >> listen wherever you get your podcast, my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis held me back

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guardrails of democracy. biden now in a new phase of his presidency, growing reflective about serving alongside the first black president and first woman vice president on may clear how i feel about comma and she's been an incredible partner to me, a champion is phrase throughout her career, though he won't appear on the democratic ticket, the president didn't is pushing forward with plans that could motivate the progressive base of his party with the backing of harris, biden is proposing changes to the nation's highest court including an enforceable code of conduct and 18 year term limits. >> we can and must prevent the abuse of presidential power. he restore faith is supreme court, the president also calling for a constitutional amendment to limit the broad presidential immunity granted by the court's conservative majority last month in a controversial ruling involving former president donald trump, the president is now a king above the law just imagine what a president could do and

trampling civil rights and liberties given such immunity, the reforms have virtually no chance of passing in this divided congress, house speaker mike johnson declaring the president's moves dead on arrival, biden delivering his message at the lbj presidential library austin texas, a site offering historical parallels between the two democratic presidents before biden, president lyndon b johnson was the last president to abandon a reelection bid in an election year. i shall not seek and i will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president today, the president's celebrating johnson's landmark civil rights act outlawing segregation and discrimination on the basis of race signed 60 years ago, these three acts have made this nation fundamentally more fair fundamentally more just. and most importantly, fundamentally more consistent with our founding principles. >> biden now hoping to leave

his own imprint on the country as his time in office winds down no vice president kamala harris was off the campaign trail today, but she did fully endorsed that proposal from president biden in a statement this morning, she wrote that she said that the supreme court is facing a crisis of confidence at this moment in time, the white house said that the vice president was closely consulted on these proposals that biden rolled out. it will be an interesting dynamic to watch going forward as so far harris has run in lockstep with biden's agenda, erin arlette. >> thank you. and now, lucy baines johnson daughter of the former president lyndon b. johnson, who was with president biden at the lbj presidential library tonight. and lucy, i really appreciate your time. it's really nice to speak to you and in the context of the time we're in now, such an important moment and biden tonight said his words, we must strengthen the guardrails of democracy. you were with him before and after the speech. you had a chance to speak with him personally. you've known him for a long time for decades

so what was your conversation like tonight, lucy, do you think he he truly is at peace with his decision well, i can't speak for president biden, but i can speak the reaction of everyone who was in the audience. we felt a little bit like the lin-manuel miranda and as wonderful music that said, we were in the room when it happened. >> and i think that being in the room where it happened when president biden made his first speech, having conceded that he was not going to run for reelection, was just a magical moment. we all were pinching ourselves because as he had said to us, he cared a lot about the office but he cared most about his country. well, my father made a similar kind of decision because he cared so

much about his country and both of them cared tremendously about civil rights. and the importance of it the 1964 civil rights act was signed on my 17th birthday and my sweet father didn't have time to come down to drugstore and pick up a card. so he wrote me and love letter on why they're stationary and even noted the time of day. i think with the hope that one day i would realize just what an incredible birthday gift died, that they end of what was really legalized apartheid in the united states. years later, i got to walk over the pettus bridge with president biden, then vice president biden, and we held john lewis's hand and we went with the force and determination to continue this fight, which is not over so you know, your father was dealing with some health issues. >> i know when he made his

decision and obviously was the turbulent time vietnam war, there were a lot of things playing into the moment for him as there are for president biden. of course, for president biden though it is age first and foremost, lucy, as we all know, it is age that is the reason he is not running. and it is other people's perception of his age specifically do you see parallels? we look in history the last time, that someone walked away from that second term was your father, how many similarities do you see between president johnson and president biden? >> well, i see a great love and passion and long service in the senate and in the vice presidency. and in the presidency. that's the first thing i see. i see a commitment to social justice that both felt fervently and gave their life i asked breaths for i i see the president's

willingness to say whatever it takes to give the best service to this country. i will do. and if indeed my time to pass the baton has come, i do so gladly i saw that in my father. >> i see that in president biden and it was a moment where you felt you were in front of a great american hero the room was electric and i was in the room where it happened and lucy, you were when this when president biden decides to step aside, you were very quick. >> you were among the first to endorse vice president kamala harris now i know you have known president biden for much of your life obviously and through his relationship with your father and then your own relationship, do are you surprised how quickly democrats have fallen in line and do you know kamala harris personally?

>> well i was thrilled and i am thrilled the way the democratic party has come together because when we come together, we can make great things happen. we've done it before, and i believe we can do it now. i have had the privilege of getting to meet vice president harris on a couple of occasions. the one that was most moving is really one that correlates with today's events i went to washington, dc on the poor people's march. and of course that is so much about social justice for all of us black and white and ethnic ethnicities of all kinds people need basic food. they need basic nutrition, they need basic health care. they need basic education that should be a right of all americans. and vice president harris was kind

enough to welcome me into our office to say that she was proud of what i was doing and that she was with me every step of the way. i'm going to be with her, every step will lucy thank you very much. >> i appreciate your taking the time to speak with me and all of us. thanks. >> thank you. bianna was all mine. thank you next, kim jong un's mysterious daughter, very young now being prepped to take over for her father. >> and there may be a reason why this is happening so quickly. we have a special report and an update tonight on some crucial information chin up stiff upper lip real men don't ask for help today. many of these ideas no longer hold true especially if you have advanced prostate cancer so challenge what you've been told ask your doctor about your psm a status and what it could mean for you. one scan can change the course of your prostate cancer journey. as it

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well, it comes as the extent of kim's poor health is coming into sharper focus. we understand that the dictator now tops 308 pounds and his lifestyle, which includes heavy drinking and smoking is raising new alarms. will ripley is outfront in flood ravaged north korean along a swollen river near the chinese border, north korean leader kim jong un, overseeing the evacuation of thousands, noticeably absent from state media coverage, kim's young daughter, kim ju-ae. >> now undergoing secret succession training. south korean lawmakers say, suggesting the elementary age girl is being groomed as the next north korean leader to lawmakers in seoul, briefed by the national intelligence service, say kim jong-un's health may be deteriorating. his doctors searching for new medications to treat kim. he has a family history of heart for disease, weighs more than 300 pounds, a dangerously high body mass index in the mid-forties. high stress, smoking and drinking, all

putting the 40-year-old kim at high risk lawmakers say they add succession plans could change. but right now, all signs point to kim ju-ae who could become the first female and fourth generation leader of the ruling kim family. kim il-sung died in 1994. kim jong il died in 2011, the year kim jong un came to power in his 20s his second child believed to be ten to 12-years-old, bearing a striking resemblance to her father a fixture by his side since her debut in late 2022 at missile launches, military banquets, massive parades, south korean intelligence says, she's now engaging in non-public activities pyeongyang aware of reaction to her young age, adjusting propaganda, reducing public appearances as her father consolidates the kim family's power bolstering ties with russian strong man vladimir putin building up his military spy satellite program

and south korea says stepping up training for a successor to someday take control of north korea's growing clear arsenal kim jong un is actually the third son of the late kim jong-il. he was reportedly chosen as the successor on his eighth birthday, but the outside world didn't know about it until many years later, erin this very public reveal of kim ju-ae, just a year-and-a-half ago, maybe the beginning experts say they have a personality cult for kim's daughter, his health. one reason experts believe this might be happening now, but many people now know her that the crucial challenges for her to build credibility, especially with the military air and that is crucial to maintaining the kim family's power. >> incredible, especially when you consider, i know it's a long process, but to pick a female and she is a girl. she's a child. alright. thank you very much and thanks to all of you for joining us. ac360 starts now