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she won't weigh in in some way on what her opponent, donald trump, said today, the national association of black journalists convention in chicago, white house press secretary very jean-pierre has already called his remarks repulsive before we play some of what mr. trump said, i do want to read you a portion of the statement his campaign put out shortly afterwards trying to but their spin on what happened, quoting now, president trump has continually said that unlike kamala harris and joe biden, he's running to be president for all americans. if you're running to night, the entire country, you have to back it up with action like president trump did today so that's how the campaign is explaining it. he was trying to unite the country today. here's some of that alleged unity message starting with abc news is rachel scott asking him better republican talking point in recent weeks, describing the vice president as a so-called dei hire do you believe that vice president kamala harris is only on the ticket because she is a black woman. well, i can say no, i think it's maybe a little bit different, so i've

known her a long time indirectly, not directly, very much. and she was always of indian heritage and she was only promoting indian heritage. i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black so i don't know if she indian or she blacks. >> he has always has a black eye college. >> i respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because he was indian all hello way. and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went she became a black now, mr. trump is once again lying, of course, and while it's ridiculous, stephen, fact check something like this just factually speaking, kamalaharris, his father was a black man born in jamaica as long embrace that part of her heritage and her identity, i suppose in grew up in a black working and middle-class neighborhood in berkeley, california and attended howard university, a historically black institution she's also a lifetime member of alpha kappa alpha, a predominantly black sorority. >> so no kamala harris did not quote happen to turn black.

trump began the interview by attacking another black woman, abc news's rachel scott, who asked him this let's start at the event happened. >> i want to start by addressing the elephant in the room, sir. >> a lot of people did not think it was appropriate for you to to be here today. >> you have pushed false claims about some of your rivals from nikki haley to former president barak obama, saying that they were not born in the united states which is not true. >> you have told for congress when women of color, who were american citizens to go back to where they came from. >> you've used words like animal and rabbit to describe black district attorney's. you've attack black journalists calling them losers, saying the questions that they asked are quote, stupid and racist. you've had dinner with a white the promises that you're mar-a-lago resort. so my question, sir, now that you were asking black supporters to vote for you, why should black voters trust you? so after you have used language like that well, first of all, i don't think i've ever been

asked a question so in such a horrible man the first question you don't even say, hello, how are you are you with abc? because i think they're a fake news network at terrible and i think it's disgraceful that i came here like population of this country including employment, including opportunity zones with senator tim scott of south carolina, which is one of the greatest programs ever for a black workers and black entrepreneurs a dozen so much i would think it's very narrow why i have answered the question is with another, i am been the best president for the black population since abraham lincoln now living aside the use of the phrase deep black population, some perspective in

1948, president harry truman desegregated the u.s. >> military in 1950, 7% dwight eisenhower sent federal troops it's a little rock, arkansas said black students can safely attend newly integrated schools. in 1964 and 65, president lyndon johnson signed the civil rights act and voting rights act. donald trump, whatever his other accomplishments, they may be, did none of those things and nothing even close? also today, in this appearance, his campaign now says was meant to unify the country. he said this about the people convicted for attacking the capitol on january 6, 2021 and do you part what's happened? oh, absolutely. i would run if they're innocent, i would pardon them. >> they've been convicted by the way, the supreme court just under wow they worked convicted by a very, very tough system. >> they were how come the people that tried to burn down minneapolis help come? purple that took over a large percentage of seattle. >> how come nothing happened to

them? how come the police talking about what else is dragging them down the stairs there have you seen that video? >> really? well, pardon those. >> you would pardon those rioters. >> they shot a young lady in the face who was protesting. they shot her the woman who was shot and killed ashli babbitt is seeing here on the frontline about mob inside the capitol trying to break into what's called the speakers lobby of the house just moments after speaker pelosi and other members of the house leadership had been escorted away from that mom. >> and by the way, after the foreign president weighed in on his social network, doubling down on his luck as vice president, quoting now crazy camila is saying she's indian, not black. this is a big deal, stone cold phony. she uses everybody including her racial identity now as we wait to hear from the vice president, who should be taking the stage any moment was going to cnn's arlette but signs in the hall in houston. so i mean, is vice frozen harris expected to address the foreign

president's comments about her race well, anderson yeah all eyes tonight will be on whether vice president kamala harris decides to directly take on former president trump's comments head head-on. >> she is set to speak tonight at an event with a sigma gamma rho that is a black sorority that is part of the divine nine. this is actually the third divine nine sorority that harris will be speaking to justice this month as she is seeking to rally black women voters heading into this election. but as we wait to see whether vice president harris will respond to trump we are here hearing tonight from her husband's second gentleman, doug emhoff, the washington post is reporting that emhoff of pushed back on trump's comments in a fundraiser in maine. this evening, emhoff said in part that trump's comments at the nabj showed, quote, a worse version of an already horrible person, the insults bs shows a lack of character, but it's a distraction. he added that guy should never be in the white house again. now the harris

campaign did release a statement we're at responding to trump's nabj appearance saying they see attacked black journalists, and that he also was seeking to divide the country at this time, but they didn't rightly mentioned trump's comments, questioning harris's identity and heritage as a black woman instead, a lot of that pushback has fallen to allies, like white house press secretary karine jean-pierre, who was asked about the moment in real time and the press briefing today. take a listen is propulsive. >> it's insulting and you know, no one has any right to tell someone who they are, how they identify that is novel ones, right so that's just a flavor of the pushback. that's coming from democrats against trump after these comments earlier at nabj. but it is important to know what type of event harris is speaking out today. this is an event with ties to the divine nine harris

herself it is a member of a sorority that's also from the divine nine that itself, alpha kappa alpha sorority that she was a part of while she attended howard. it historically black college in union diversity. so many will be watching closely whether this might be just the right audience for her to give this pushback to trump on. we will see how exactly that plays out. what she takes the stage a few minutes for websites. >> thank you very much. appreciated. in chicago, seen in political analyst, new york times, national political reporter astead herndon joins us. he was at the nabj okay. their national association of black journalists event today also joining us cnn newsnight anchor abby phillip and cnn political commentator bakari sellers obviously, the former president believes there's some benefit, whether it's people that he's trying to talk to in the black community or whether it's other supporters of his for saying these things either that or it's a sign of desperation. i think often with trump when he goes down this road, it's because he believes

that these sort of base attacks on people's identity, just like he did with barak obama kind of hit at something that will get traction i don't know that there's a whole lot of electoral logic to this because trump showed up at nabj presumptively because he thought he has a shot at reaching black voters. i can't think of many things that are more offensive to black people than someone a white man showing up at a conference and trying to be the arbiter of who is black or not. it's just really problematic and not what his advisers would have wanted for this particular event but trump has been showing himself to be pretty rattled recently. by the change of momentum in this race and by the degree to which harris has unified the democratic party, including perhaps some black voters who had been straying away. now giving her a second look, bakari, i mean, do you think there's any rationale for what he was doing and the trump campaign has been open about trying to make inroads two

black and hispanic voters, and particularly male black voters i mean, is continuing to question the vice president heritage helpful in any way in that regard no i want to be succinct in my analysis though anderson and just kind of give it how i see it there a couple of points the first is that every person who votes for donald trump is not a racist. >> and we have to be extremely clear about that. but donald trump is a racist. i recall not long ago. it was back in 2016, i believe it was after i was on state of the union and there was a question about david duke. it was before the mississippi primary and i called donald trump a racist and david axelrod rod, who i love and adore and who provides me more guidance and mentorship than i could ever be thankful for, pulled me aside and said you have to be cautious about throwing that term out and using it in such a fashion began to say that donald trump uses racism as political currency. and i think that's actually accurate as well. what we're seeing here though, and

i want to be extremely clear what we're seeing here is as abby said, somebody who is extremely desperate. but i disagree slightly with the analysis. i think that donald trump goes into environments like this in talks to black folk like their dogs, because he wants to appease to other white voters but i think he goes into environments like this and i think the spin that you're seeing from j.d. vance and others is that he went into the lion's den. you went into the heart of the beast. and the reason he does it is not to woo black voters but to show other white voters. at least i did it. i went and tried to talk to those black folk and they just didn't really want to hear it now commonly harris, for example, it has a different philosophy than i do because i disagree with michelle obama i believe i'm from south carolina. were the politics is different. michelle obama said, when they go low, we go high. i believe when they go low, we go to hill and so i think that you have to fight fire with fire kamala harris is more in line with shallow bomb. i think

kamala harris understands as you'll see tonight that there's no benefit in rolling around with pigs because you both get muddy in the pig likes it so she's going to stay above the fray and she's going to talk about a vision for tomorrow. and i'm just going to stay here at both the nabj for inviting him and platforming him and him for having the audacity to come into our house and disrespect black women in front of black women. i'm livid at it and i've been that way for nine years. and i just want something new it is abby remarkable to see this, this elderly white man who's lived most of his adult life in a very gaudy penthouse in new york i mean, to the face of a report from abc using the same words he's used to describe black women and many women who challenged him and stand up to him, which is nasty attacking their character. >> i want to play another thing. he said, this was in response to a question about whether he would take a cognitive test she failed her

law exam. she didn't pass a law exam, so maybe she wouldn't passed a cognitive test mr. president. >> thanks. >> just a week where he was giving you the facts to be clear, you don't think pass her bar exam and she didn't think she could pass it and she didn't think she was going to pass it. and i don't know what happened. maybe she passed it was a man over here, i think again, i mean, you yeah. >> i mean, look, this is who donald trump is. i i'm not sure what people want to just put donald trump under a rock this is who he is this is who he was when in i think it was 2018. he said that the question i was asking him was stupid rachel scott and these reporters on that dais, they knew the trump was going to come into this interview aggressive and that he was going to demean them, that he was going to criticize

the venue. he tweeted or used truth, social, and sent out a message suggesting as such, before he even landed in chicago. so we know that about trump but i also think that what was revealed about trump tonight was that he hasn't changed not many, 70 something-year-old men do. but there's been a suggestion from his campaign that it's a number of things have happened that the assassination attempt has changed him, that being president once has changed him. what we saw today at nabj was the same donald trump that we saw in 2015 and 2016. and now it's up to voters. to answer the question. do they want that again and every time the voters are reminded often of trump and the parts of trump that make them want to turn off the tv and make them want to turn the page. that's a problem for the trump campaign. that's why they tried so hard to frame the rnc as a turn of the page. they

know that that image of donald trump is not to their benefit, and they've been trying to change it. trump undid a lot of that work today. >> it isn't singled to abby's point, which is kamala harris rallies. they've started chanting this not going back, not going back. it is talking about the politics, but it's also, i mean, you see the former president today. it's going if you have him in the white house again, it is going back to that chaos. it is going back to these daily harangues and daily dramas and rude comments and things like that. the former president also gave a less than going endorsement of his own running mate when asked about j.d vance's readiness for the job and i just want to play that when you look at j.d. vance, is he ready on day one? does he was ready on day one? if he has to be i've always had great respect

for him and for the other candidates to, but i will say this and i think this is well documented the historically the vice president in terms of the election, does not have any impact. >> i mean, virtually no impact i mean, if you're if you're a vice presidential nominee with donald trump, that's got to be sort of rumblings of a future earthquake. >> i mean, there's been questions about how upset is trump at picking j.d. vance. he apparently was convinced to do it by his two sons in kind of late in the whole process. i'm not sure if they are in the doghouse over this, but does it surprise you to see him so publicly? i mean, he often says the quiet part out loud, so maybe it's not surprising, but to be already publicly kind of undercutting his vice president now it's not surprising at all. in fact you know, i've, i affectionately referred to jd vance's the sarah palin, dan

quayle's. and i don't think that j.d. vance was brought on this ticket for geographical pick, right? he's not going to bring you a state. and a lot of people think that or compared j.d vance to al gore, which i think is fundamentally unfair to al gore. but bill clinton shows out war to double down on this democratic centrist from the south young new age type of leader and doubled down on that messaging and a lot of people believed j.d. vance was chosen to double down on maga in 2028, 2032, the leader who can take this to the future, j.d. vance was brought in to overturn an election point blank period and he answered a yes or no question by not answering it at all. and i expect commonly harris on tuesday in pennsylvania, as they're probably rock into freedom, right now and houston, i'll be quick. i expect her to be able to say that her vice president is ready on day yeah. >> bakari. thank you. vice president harris, speaking now in houston, last lesson good

be, with all the leaders who are here. i want to thank the international president. i see that as liberty. i thank you for your friendship and your leadership. and for the warm welcome this evening. thank you so very much. and to the international board of directors, to the council presidents of the national pan-hellenic council and to congresswoman robin kelly, it is my it is my great honor to be with everyone this evening and i please have the seat. i thought everyone stay with me. if you have a seat, please have a seat thank you and to all the members of sigma gamma rho sorority incorporated it is so good to be with you this evening. >> and i say that as a proud member of the divine nine. and when i look out at everyone here on c family and you know,

we all we share a vision for the future of our nation hours is a vision of a future in which we realize the promise of america. and aren't so many of us empirical evidence of the promise of america? a promise of freedom, opportunity and justice not for some, but for all since 1922 the members of sigma gamma rho sorority incorporated have helped realize that promise generation after generation the members of this sorority have shown that greater service brings greater progress no the 1920s and 30s, you creative college scholarships for young black women in. >> the 1960s and 70s, you

launched a nationwide program to help folks get a job in the 19. you formed a partnership with st. jude to the fight childhood cancer and in 2020, you continued your leadership when during the height of a pandemic, you well helped elect joe biden, president of the united states and me as the first woman vice president of the i would saying and for all of those reasons, i'm here to thank you for your longstanding surface to our nation and to declare in this moment that our nation needs your leadership, once again in this moment, we face a choice between two very different visions for our

nation one focused on the future the other focused on the past and we in this room of fighting for the future a future with affordable health care, affordable childcare, and paid leave and we fight for a future with equal pay for women because we know when we lift up the economic status of women, we lift up the economics status of children, of families and all of society benefits we hear work for future we're every person has the opportunity not just to get by, but to get ahead to build a business, to own a home and to build intergenerational wealth we hear see a future where we bring down the cost of living

for hardworking americans, which is why we are fighting to band more our of those hidden fees and surprise late charges that banks and other companies used to pad their profits to take on corporate landlords or it's in cap rent increases and take on big pharma and cap the cost of prescription drugs for all american all of this to saying, we are working to build up, to build up, not tear down and to build up america's families and america's middle-class. >> because we know when our middle class is strong, america is strong but as we work to move our nation forward, let us be clear there are those who are trying to take us backward you may have seen their agenda they call it project 2025 right

and it is a 900 page agenda of extremism project 2025. would raise taxes on middle-class families and cut taxes for billionaires eliminate the department of education and end programs like head start, which of course would take away preschool from hundreds of thousands of our children all of this to build on what donald trump did in his first term when he was president he gave tax breaks to billionaires and big corporations he tried to cut social security and medicare every single year and he and his allies have tried more than 60 times to end the affordable care act to take us back to a time when insurance companies had the power to deny people with pre-existing conditions. remember what that was denying children with

asthma breast cancer survivors, grandparents with diabetes and you know america has tried these failed policies before and we are not going back we are not going back we all hear, remember what those four years were like. and today, we were given yet another reminder this afternoon donald trump's spoke at the annual meeting of the national association of black journalists and it was the same old show the divisiveness and the disrespect and let me just say the american people deserve

better the american people deserve better the american people deserve a leader who tells the truth a leader who does not respond with hostility and anger when confronted with the facts we deserve a leader who understands that our differences, do not divide us they are an essential source of our strength so i say the sigma gamma rho sorority incorporated hours is a fight for the future and it is a fight for freedom across our nation. we are witnessing a full-on attack on hard-fought, hard-won fundamental freedoms and rights. the freedom to vote, the freedom to be safe from gun

violence, the freedom to live without fear of bigotry and hate freedom to love who you love openly and with pride, the freedom to learn and acknowledge america's true and full history and the freedom of a woman to make decisions about on our own body and not have government tell her what to do a fight for almost fundamental freedoms and to this room of leaders, us say, bring it on bring it on those who would dare there to attack these fundamental freedoms because we hear, we love our country. >> we love our country and i believe it is the highest form of patriotism to fight for the ideals of our country so we who believe in the sacred freedom

to vote will finally pass the john lewis voting rights act. and the freedom well, we who believe that every person should be free from gun violence will finally pass universal ban background checks, red flag laws, and an assault weapons ban and we who believe in reproductive freedom will fight for a woman that's right to choose because we know one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree the government should not be telling her what to do because we know faith and freedom can co-exist and understand when he was president donald trump handpicked three members of the united states supreme court. >> the court of thurgood and

rbg because he intended for them to overturn the protections of roe v wade. >> and as he intended, they did and now in the south with the majority of black women live every state except for virginia has an abortion ban many with no exception, even for rape and incest and now he intends to pass a nationwide abortion ban to ban access to fundamental health care. and every state. but i will not let that happen. i promise you when i am president of the united states congress as a law to restore reproductive freedoms, i will sign it into law so in this, you're welcome so in this

moment, our fundamental freedoms are on the the ballot and so is our democracy this month. and it really bears just with all that's been happening to just for a moment, pause and think about it this month, the supreme court basically just told the former president who, has been convicted of fraud that going forward, he will be immune for activity. we know he is prepared to engage and if he gets back into the white house recall donald trump has openly vowed, if reelected to be a dictator on day one that he will weaponize the department of justice against his political enemies. that he will round up peaceful protesters and throw them out of our country and even quote terminate the united states

constitution so in conclusion, i say to the incredible members of sigma gamma rho sorority incorporated there is so much at stake in this it's moment election day has a 97 days and in this moment, once again, our nation is counting on you to energize to organize, and to mobilize to register folks to vote and get them to the polls because when we organize mountains, move when we mobilize nations change when we vote, we make history let us continue to fight with faith

with optimism and with hope and when we fight, we win god bless you and god bless the united states of america thank you mr. person harris, tonight's speaking live in houston, bafford, the party sellers joining us is asked if herndon from your times and aaron perine, who served as director of communications for the trump 2020 campaign because we just saw vice president harris responding to former president trump's comments in the way you kind of predicted she would not getting dragged down into kind of a a for tat in the maki's kind of playing in yeah. >> i mean, commonly harris the identity of who she is. i mean, you can see that it's a lot like 2008 with barak obama. you don't have to articulate who she is or identity at every visit, every single visit. but she can do something nothing, donald trump can't do. donald trump is the oldest candidate in american political history for president of the united

states. one of the things that i used to say, donald trump and joe biden were unable to do. and i believe it was a product that their age was give a vision for the future. and so look, people know who donald trump is in for a long period of time, democrats were stuck in this mud where it was subject for donald trump. we don't have to do that anymore allow kamala harris to articulate what a future looks like under her administration, because people are tired in the quote, fannie lou hamer, again, sick and tired of being sick and tired. this is the dystopian view of this country is not one that i recognize but the racism the race card that donald trump place is still a tag for my republican friends. i think america just doesn't buy it anymore, but we're 95 days away or so. so we shall see erin. i mean, do you think it's wise that the former president is doubling down on these kind of comments the way he is i think any opportunity that republicans are not using to define kamala harris when it comes to her policy positions,

when it comes to the fact that you were seeing her record change through spokespeople and not through her own voice at this point, is a missed opportunity policies are what are going to help republicans win the white house and wind down ballot races? not attacks and trying to litigate the race of a different candidate republicans need to stay focused and on-message. i know that ties aid monumental task some days, but those policy positions that helped drive the economy forward that we're securing our southern border. they made sure geopolitical catastrophe was not at our doorstep previously or what we need to be telling the american people, but not trying to litigate the noise that you're hearing right now. >> but donald trump, does have a sort of i don't know if it's like a feral sense of people's of what appeals to some people. clearly, he believes there is an advantage to doing this i don't speak for donald trump anymore, but i can tell you what i believe works best for republicans here. >> that's going to be defining

kamala harris on her record. most american people do know her name, but they don't know her policy positions. she ran as an extreme left candidate in the 2020 cycle before she dropped out, she had to moderate a bit under joe biden. and now it's the opportunity for republicans to say, well, which version are we getting the problem with that? of course, is that donald trump has completely flip-flopped on many issues and his vice president has completely flip-flop from calling him america's hitler to a great guy so that message i'd be a little bit harder to make this time astead, we haven't heard from you. were you were at the convention hearing this what was it like? what was the response from the audience? because it's hard to tell. it sounded like some there was a smattering of applause from a handful of people at some point. and then i couldn't really tell what the audience was doing well, i would say the audience was mostly journalistic. >> the audience was mostly saying nothing. there was a smattering of people who were there and seemingly in support of donald trump, i would say

there was only like three, or five people. there was a lot of people who are there who are kind of mocking donald trump. some of folks laughing at the things he was saying. i mean, but i think my biggest response to what the room gives me is it sense that this is not something that's happening outside of donald trump's own volition. this is happening because donald trump believes these things about kamala harris. no one made him say these kind of attacks about her no one made him to birtherism to 0.0. he's doing it because this is something that is consistent and who his public appeals have been throughout his political we'll career. and so i don't know what donald trump was expecting in that room, but then that room, you have a lot of accomplished journalists who are looking for facts, who are looking for contexts are looking to oppress people on questions who are going to ask some things other people don't ask. and so when i was in that room, i was proud of rachel scott. i was proud of kadia goba, who were asking him pressing on those questions. and i think that's the reason we got some of these answers from trump is because that kind of dei, hire question jen, that

some people are afraid to ask. rachel, read the riot act and send it to his face. i think that's the reason we got those sorts of answers, but the room wasn't i would say pro or anti-trump. that's largely a room of journalists stick voices. you only had a smattering of people who i think were there may be because they knew who would be there. that was a small group of people, but the majority of people were there listening and i think frankly, if i have a critique, i wish we were able to ask more questions from the audience. >> bakari, i mean, does it seem to you that the trump campaign has figured out how to how to deal with kamala harris. i mean, it is a whole new race for them yeah. >> know the answer to that as held now like that this is what we're seeing in real time. and the weird part about this is i think that as much great work as chris lacivita, susie wiles, and jason miller. and i'm a democrat saying that the first four or 56 months of this campaign made legitimately ran

circles around the biden campaign. i mean, they just did. they had a candidate and although they were very disciplined in their messaging in the way that they were maneuvering the way they prepared him for the debate, et cetera. it was just they had some sense of control. they had a decent convention. i thought it was a weird convention i'm sick and tired of using that word, but that's the only one i can come up with but they were able to stake a claim. it's what they were trying to present with donald trump it was commonly harris, she presents to them what is just a nemesis. it's been a thorn for donald trump for a very long period of time, which is an articulate successful powerful woman, particularly of color. he, he cannot respond to that for some reason, and we're seeing that now and what i believe is that an anesthetic probably will text me later about this. but in sam decently naive, but i just i believe in what lincoln called the better angels of our nature. i do not

believe that the underbelly of this country is going to win again, i just can't fathom someone going and praying on that our least common denominator. in sitting up there in questioning whether or not a black woman is black at 8:00. the audacity to question whether or not an aid ka from howard university is a black woman, is some of the most audacious. my twins are in the other room, so i'm not going to curse stuff. i've ever seen in my entire life if that's what they're going to do then i just let me please believe and have my dreams that america is better than that. >> erin, some republicans are responding to the foreign presence comments, senator kevin cramer dismissing it as satire, just want to play this fact that donald trump uses satire to point that out misunderstood by a lot of people. it provides an opportunity for people to attack them. he shouldn't do it. it would be better if he didn't probably you worked for

him. >> did he ever appear to you to be a great satirist you know, honestly, my interactions were kind of limited. >> i was on the campaign side and he was at the white house. but to the point there, the senator did say he'd be better served not doing that. and i think that that's it's probably the message that most republicans, if they're not willing to say it out loud, are saying behind closed doors, that's not the kind of language that's going to win this election. the kind of language is going to be putting camilla's feet to the fire about the border crisis. let's talk about fentanyl overdoses let's talk about the direction of this country. let's talk about economic policy. let's talk about fracking and pennsylvania and the economic situation regarding the midwest that these are messages that can win and can win voters across the country. but getting into these kind of personality fights is not what serves republicans. best. we have strong policy proposal that's how you when you don't do it by doing things like this, are thanks very much for being with us. bakari as well in astead as well. just ahead tonight, we'll be joined by illinois democratic governor potential harris, running mate jb pritzker will be right back

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journalists convention, especially this remark about vice president harris she was always of indian heritage and she was only promoting indian heritage. >> i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when he happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black vice president did not address that comment in her live speech directly tonight, but she did say this this afternoon donald trump's spoke at the annual meeting of the national association of black journalists and it was the same old show the divisiveness and the disrespect and let me just say the american people deserve better the american people deserve better joining us now

is democratic governor of illinois and potential harris running mate jb pritzker, governor. thank you for being on the program. i'm wondering what you thought when you heard the remote marks by the former president, as well as what vice president harris said well, think back to the central park five accusations that donald trump made. >> think back to the birther conspiracy that he started about president obama. and back in 2017 when i was running for governor, i consistently called him a racist because he is and today he proved it once again what do you think vice president harris handled it as you expected as you as you the most effective way i think she was respectful when donald trump, of course, was not just disrespectful, but showed his true nature. >> and i think the rest of us can see the racism coming and throw him this guy is homophobic, xenophobe he's a

racist and massage menaced. any shows it every day, but here was just a perfect example of it for the american public to see she doesn't need to take him on directly. the rest of us can see it for ourselves and we're going to talk about it it does seem like the former president is somewhat flummoxed about how to deal with kamala harris. does that does that strike you of course. >> and you saw it today? he isn't sure about how he wants to respond. he doesn't know how to say things without revealing his racism. and frankly, every time he talks about her you see a little bit of it come out in the language that he uses. i think you may have also noticed today he was supposed to answer questions from these three black journalists for an hour. he only lasted about 38 minutes. his staff pull him. i start to wonder whether he's got the stamina to actually get up on a debate stage with kamala harris for 90 minutes. he couldn't

last 80 was sitting down, imagine him standing up for 90 minutes against frankly, a real grilling by a real prosecutor the former president also downplayed his vice presidential nominee, jd vance's role in the campaign, saying that the choice of vp makes no difference and ultimately people are voting for the president do you believe that it's possible he won't stay with j.d. >> vance so revealing isn't it that he doesn't even defend his own nominee for vice president? >> i think bakari sellers earlier referred to him as the sara palin of dan quayle's. and i think he is the worst choice for vice presidents since sarah palin no doubt about it. and you've seen over and over, really, he doesn't stand the scrutiny j.d vance is somebody who has changed his positions just from four or five years ago when he called donald trump, america's hitler. now he thinks he's a great guy and talks about him

in a glowing light what will he say two years from now? what will he be if he had to actually as a heartbeat away from the presidency, if he actually had to step up and be president of the united states, is that what people want? i don't think so. >> vice president harris and her as yet unnamed running mate, expected to kick off a series of campaign events starting to philadelphia this coming tuesday. what does your schedule look like? like next week well, i think all of us are excited about the choice that kamala harris will make because she'll make a great choice. >> and we're all going to be out there campaigning for the ticket, whoever is on the ticket, i honestly thank you. you know, you heard her today just in her remarks at the sorority today, talk about i think three very important topics. it's the way i would define this election. it's about freedom and opportunity the injustice and there are a lot of us who are whether we're on the ticket or just out there campaigning for her, we're going to repeat that over and over and over again because this is a fight for american

families for their freedoms, for opportunities for them and making sure that we have true justice for everyone. >> immigration, and illegal immigration. that's obviously been a big attack on vice president because it obviously the administration president biden, you know, she's basically now focusing on the deal that donald trump killed the bipartisan deal that could have pass this year, but was killed by donald trump is that enough? do you think to blunt that attack i do because you have to remember that when donald trump was president, he did nothing about immigration reform. >> he did nothing to shore up the border or support the border patrol. and it's been the biden-harris administration. they tried to fund the border patrol and tried to make sure that we had actual border security. i think one of the hallmarks of the administration has been they've been willing to work in a bipartisan fashion working with

senator lankford a true conservative coming up with a bill that nobody loved, but everybody understood what was necessary. and then having donald trump blow that deal up, it was on the verge of being past. it was donald trump that told her problem we'll comes to walk away from it and that's exactly what they did you know, that he doesn't care about the american people. he doesn't care about solving problems. he cares a narcissistic about what's good for him and his politics of it are pritzker, i appreciate your time. >> thank you thank you. coming up next, a dire warning reportedly from iran supreme leader after the assassination and tehran of hamas's political chief also, how his killing may affect hostage and ceasefire negotiations between hamas and israel have a live report from our clarissa ward ahead wow if you're living with

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leader of hamas while he was in tehran for the inauguration of iran's new president. there's also concern this could hurt ceasefire and hostage talks between hamas and israel hamas blames israel for the early morning attack. israel has not said whether it's behind the strike. just yesterday, the idf did claim responsibility for this strike in beirut, lebanon that killed one of hezbollah's top military commanders and several others. israel blames the commander for the rocket attack on saturday that killed 12 children at a soccer field in the golan heights joining us now from tel aviv, cnn's clarissa ward. so what does this assassination mean for the hostage and ceasefire negotiations well well, if you talk to a lot of people here and in the region anderson, there are real fears that for the 115 hostages inside gaza, for the more than 2 million plan civilians who have been living through this hellscape inside gaza, that the negotiations that so many had worked so hard for, for such a long time. >> could well be dead in the water are certainly temporarily

are not going anywhere because it's smile haniah the leader of hamas's political wing. was the negotiator who was at the table. could he be replaced yes. but who would replace him within the context of hamas, haniah was seen as it's being a somewhat moderate force, then you add to that the fact that all the other interlocutors such as qatar, are also very angry about this situation, and we we actually spoke to a family member. you thought zeiler? she is the cousin of shiri bibas, who is the mother of kaffir and arielle bba us, who have been held in gaza since october 7. she told us a little bit about what her reaction was to these two very prominent assassination take a listen i feel frustrated that i feel that i'm losing my legitimacy to speak about feeling on al to the world what do you. feel that it's ten

months now? >> of war are war with a lot of casualties i lost my aunt and uncle civilian died, innocent civilians on both sides because a lot of children who died and gaza and i feel that speaking about two israeli boys who were kidnapped ten months ago. it's irrelevant to a lot of people given the strike on hezbollah and the strike on haniah are you scared terrified? >> i'm terrified surely i know it will have an effect on the talks that i don't know how do

you worry that it could jeopardize the talks the talks and jeopardize the hostages as well my worst fear is to find out that i hundred and 15 hostages are all died too, because they decided to have nothing to gain out of than and digest that just kill them all tomorrow marks 300 days since october 7 since those hostages were taken, there's going to be another mass gathering as increasingly so many of these families, anderson really feel very fresh frustrated that the actions of the israeli government do not in any way help try to facilitate the quickest, safest return home for those hostages. >> i sat i think on that same bench talking to effed siler shortly after october 7, and i will never forget her and her family the ci and all the other hostage families are still

waiting for any kind of sign or word it's it's just it's incredible runs public reaction and what does it tell us about what might come next anderson, it tells us that there is going to be a strong response. >> it is likely to be a direct response. it may well be in conjunction with hezbollah previously, we saw what happened back in april 3 hundred fred projectiles fired towards israel. this quick look different. it could look even more intense first award. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. that's it for us. the news continues right here on cnn outfront next, donald trump questioning whether kamala harris is black in front of a packed room of black journalists. we're going to speak to one of them. was there and just moments from now, harris will be responding live. and the veepstakes right now, rampant speculation over who kamala harris will choose new details we are learning