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said, when i am president it will be a day one priority to fight, to try to bring down prices for all americans now had to look it up. >> i'm not, i'm only moderately proficient in math, but it seems that she's according to my calculations, has been vice president united states for 1,200 1,295 days. so this may have come as a huge surprise to the american or can people that the sitting vice president, either a blames joe biden for doing nothing about prices are be as lost. his phone number and can't tell him to get to work on it to day out. >> wentao this is going to remind us all less than a week ago, we have three american soldiers come back about it backs they were attacked by drones near the lebanon, shared border, right? >> and over 30 other people wearing uniforms were injured i've only seen maybe two or three stories about that and i'm not knocking our press, but let's remember, it's those precious treasures that
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allow us to sit here at this table let's start not just saying, thank you for his service let's start supporting those guys that are supporting us. >> we asked that back to reality montel williams, we appreciate you. all of you. this has been a wonderful night particularly, everyone. thank you so much. for watching and thank you for being here for news night's state of the race. laura coates live starts right now well, the presidential campaigns hit the ground running, but donald trump remains on the sidelines tonight. >> the new reporting mike just explain why. plus an alleged terror plot targets taylor swift's concerts, the events are now canceled with major security questions. now being raised. and a mystery in space as getting stranger and longer by the second y2 astronauts are now being told that they may not get home until next year. tonight on laura coates live
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we're now officially under 90 days until the election. that means just 30 days until early voting really begins. it's a full-on sprint from this day forward and one campaign is acting like it. the other. well, they might still be trying to find its footing the washington post tonight reports that donald trump is complaining relentlessly about kamala harris is new momentum. sources say that he's asking why she is raising so much more money than he is, and why she's getting such large crowds. well, today probably didn't help them feel better on that last point, because harris and her new running mate, minnesota governor tim walz, packed their events today and not one, but two, battleground states, wisconsin and also michigan. it's good to have a plane terrorists and walz hammering the very same message these ideas that
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they're putting out there, they are weird as hell. >> no one's asking for it. >> and look as we move our nation forward donald trump intends to take our nation backward now, donald trump's running mate, senator j.d. >> vance, is putting in the groundwork also. he's actually shadowed harris and the same states that she's been to this week pennsylvania wisconsin, and also michigan. and after hearing walls call him continuously weird. i mean, for days now today, but j.d. vance hit back and the reason it doesn't make sense is because you ask who's weird, right? is i think it's pretty weird to be the borders are and to open up the border and allow fentanyl and come into your community? >> okay. so you saw harris and walls and bam? they are all out on the trail who's missing? well, what about donald trump? the best we can tell he did an
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interview with a live streamer on monday he did a phone interview with fox today and is only scheduled rally this whole week is friday and none other than reliably red month of all places and yet as frustrated as donald trump might be and has energized as democrats might be its masking a bit of a reality shock will the energy actually translates to votes because all the polls suggest that this race is razor-tight and could be anyone to win or to lose. joining me now, white house correspondent for politico, eli stokols, cnn political commentator and former deputy chief of staff at hud under the trump administration, shermichael singleton and hillary clinton, 2016 presidential campaign manager, robbie mooc. good to have all of you guys here today. leave begin with you, shermichael we're hearing that trump may be doing a little bit crowd size fundraising. he's also not campaigning. that was running mates out there. >> who is behind that decision
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you think trump or his campaign? i would imagine the candidate i'm certain the campaign managers and the strategies want him out there may look i got to give it to vice president harris me she has a significant amount of momentum there, raising a lot of money. what almost 200,000 i think volunteers registered that stuff is going to help you talked about in your opening monologue will that momentum translate into electoral votes? you know, it depends, but what what it will do is in a very, very tight race, potentially it will get people who are low propensity voters are who weren't previously eager to maybe suddenly turn out and that can certainly make a difference marginally in certain states where we know the differences was under 30 2000 votes. and so if you're the republicans, you gotta get your butt out there. some of those battleground states asap and make your message to the american people. >> i mean, it's maybe not just montana, robbie, i'm this point. let me ask you to be the crowds at the harris waltz round i mean, they're pretty significant and there was also something that harken back to yesterday year, so to speak, there was a chant that was brewing, listened to what was
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going on in this, campaign hold on. hold on. >> here's the thing. >> the courts are going to handle that. we don't beat him in november so that first one was back in atlanta. this one as recently as tonight, but chant was lock him up. >> you heard lock her up back in 2016. >> what do you think is the strategy behind vice president kamala harris were at tamping that data this reclamation of the moral high ground of sorts yeah, absolutely. >> i mean again, the contrast couldn't be bigger or she's been saying it from the beginning. she was a prosecutor in san francisco he is a 34 time felon who has been convicted look, she's got the
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momentum. she's got the wind behind her back. she doesn't need to get into petty attacks one of the things that's been really remarkable to me in the last few weeks is and you've heard governor walz say this joy that is coming out on the campaign, i'll tell you i was at my local county democratic meeting tonight. the entire parking lot was full. i couldn't find a place to park once i got on, people were literally lined up with then the gymnasium just to sign up to volunteer this is very real. what's going on and what is remarkable to me about trump is, as you said, he seems to just be sitting there stewing rather than getting out and driving a message. and a contrast in this race, they seem to put j.d. vance out there today to try to be the attack dog, but it's falling flat and it's surprising to me in particular because if you watched the republican convention just a few weeks ago, that room was, it was energetic, it was boisterous. they felt like they were on the march and then it's just gone. so they need to press the reset button and get their act together because i'm telling
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you what is going on out there with democrats. it's very real that momentum is very real. >> you know, it almost has the, you're right about the rnc. before that is how 1,000 years ago you still had an item the top of the ticket, they waited to actually make the announcement until after it happened, 90 minutes after he made the decision to have the prisoner swap exchange it's completely there were a lot of things going on behind the scenes, but i do wonder about the momentum as we get towards say, another academic year, because the protests that were happening in looming large across campuses is about to start potentially again, and there was a moment as well where harris was briefly interrupted by a small group of protesters. were they? pro pro-palestinian message during tonight's rally that might be a bit of a preview of what she could expect in the fall. but listen to how that went and ten to end the affordable care act, you know what? >> if you want donald trump? so when then say that, otherwise, i'm speaking she's in
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detroit, also the home of obviously michigan and the uncommitted voters that had quite the response in the primaries. >> what can they do? >> yeah, that was a fairly terse response to those protesters, i think especially given that the vice president met prior to that speech with some of the leaders of the uncommitted movement and expressed an openness to hearing out some of their some of their policy goals or hopes, what they would like. so she's expressed an openness to hear them. she obviously does not want to relitigate reopen the conversation about the war in gaza. she wants to maintain this momentum and the course that she's on right now. and so we'll see how they do that. she's you know, in terms of delivering the stump speech, right just trying to ride this wave, the enthusiasm all the ways in which this race has flipped in the last couple of weeks since biden was the nominee to now kamala harris at
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the top of the ticket and it's definitely true that trump is wallowing right now. that's what he does. i covered his entire campaign and presidency we know that when things don't go well after the 2018 midterms, he stood for weeks. he was in a really dark placed we know how he reacted to the 2020 election and losing the election, how he responds to this and the unexpected shift in this campaign and trying to get the momentum back. i mean, the harris rallies, you can look at those protests and the small interruptions, but by enlarge what we have seen from her since she took over the top and the ticket for democrats the enthusiasm is off the charts. it feels like trump rallies felt in 2016 trump recognize that, recognize that as best as well as anybody. in terms of what is happening, how organic it is and he's running for the third time hear what he's doing is not all that new. suddenly instead of running against an 81-year-old president who people didn't think was fit to serve out four more years. he's running
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against an incumbent. >> but i hear, you know, what is new for many people, eli, we don't have interviews we're not hearing a lot. we're hearing the rallies were seeing the rallies were not hearing interviews from waltz and harris. it was like, i think for clinton and came within two days of the announcement that they came out and had a joint interview where they could be tested more fulsomely as opposed to a protest or addressing a particular my why do you think they're not having those interviews right now? is it because of what utilized talking about the momentum is strong enough that they think the rock, the boat. >> well, i actually just think it's because they've only been running for what, two-and-a-half weeks or something like that. and she left well, i look, i think they need to get through the convention so she needs to you know, speech prep that they need to do she is still casting this message. we're really starting to see it come together at these rallies, but that's still being forged. but look, she's going to have to
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get out there and do interviews. there's no question of that. i think you'll start to see that after the convention. i think the other reality for her and really for any candidate and certainly trump believes this it's not just traditional sitting down in a studio like this. i think they're also going to get out there to different platforms and meet the voters where they are young people swing among young people over the last few weeks has been dramatic. that's going to be very important audience and they're much more in that online space, or no, this is a hell of a studio to have i'm just saying it's a great studio, but i want to get you one second, but i do know you have reporting about the timing of potential interview because we're less than 90 days away and there's indication that they may be waiting until maybe labor day. is that right? >> there? we did hear from a person very close to the vice president who believes that, given how well things are going, given the timing of that convention that she can wait that long. i don't know that they will. my understanding, talking to people on the campaign and close to the vice
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president today is that they're starting to figure this out where they're going to go, who they want to sit down with. and the timing will probably be after the convention, whether that's all the way to labor day. not sure. but i wouldn't expect much before that because they are on this role right now. they don't feel like they have to do it and to robbie's point, you know, the media has changed. it's not like they have to do an interview in a studio with an azure like you or with a major newspaper, they will do some of that, but they will also so send harris and walz out there onto podcast to talk to influencers and they believe they really believe that they can reach more of the people that they really need to turn out for them in these swing states doing that, then the sort of mass media, national news, traditional candidate interviews. >> i wonder how, what they're actually going to do, what they can have accessibility yeah, of course. just to note, i mean, early voting in place like north carolina start on september 6, the waiting to labor day. if there is an error or if there's a boost, there's little time to course correct. before that happens, but there's also i think part of the strategy shermichael
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here. if you're on the trump-vance ticket, has been not policy concerns, but name-calling now there's a new name. i think it's come camila or comp comma love like campgrounds. i'm glad know how to france her name correctly and i will give her the respect and dignity of the name that her parents shows for and yet you hear senator j.d. vance, who's saying, i'm not going to adhere to the name that trump is trying to have our there what does that signal to you that they're not on the same page about the tactic. >> i mean, look, i think jd recognizes that if you are going to potentially persuade voters in the middle it's going to be by distinguishing yourself on policy differences. i think the name call and stuff. i don't think that really moves the needle. i haven't seen any quantitative data that convinces me that it does you talked about how close the races again, at the top of the show? it's close for a reason. i think republicans, if you're looking at some live walls, you can look at state tack has in his in his home state, you look at migration patterns out of the home-state of people, more people leaving the state to move in say, well, if he's such a great governor
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on a plethora of issues, why are more people moving there while our businesses leaving? that's one solid argument. i think if you want to go after vice president harris, you can talk about her attempting to moderate on several policy positions, which is why it's important to talk to journalists. because journalists such as yourself will take her to task on, well, what's changed about your philosophical beliefs or your policy beliefs? from, four, years ago to challenge her on those fronts. and so i think that's where the message needs to be for that 10% or 5% of people in the middle who are really paying attention very closely on the policy differences between each camp. >> robbie in terms of how they respond. i mean, there's obviously gravitational pull at times and politics too get lower and roll in the mud tactically, it would be problematic. how do they continue to say? >> well, what's been remarkable to me, particularly from we've seen from governor walz is as i was mentioning earlier, this joy that they're bringing so i don't think they're afraid to mock what is weird, what is strange, what is nonsensical, and frankly, what's offensive
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about what they're saying. >> but harris has an important task in the next three weeks going through the convention she has got to define herself as a fresh, new correction for this country. >> what i saw for months over this year and last year was voter saying in these focus groups. and you see in the polling, we want a different choice. they now have one and she has to make clear that she is a fresh i turn the page moment for this country from the nasty politics of donald trump. and you can't do that if you're getting down into the mud pit with him, so i do think you'll see them staying at their that higher level, but not being afraid to call it out. >> when they see it. >> well, good news, bad news, gentlemen, less than 90 days. bad news. same thing. thank you so much, everyone. appreciate your time. well, senator j.d vance is attacking governor tim walz is military rank grid he's accusing him of abandoning his unit before they deployed to iraq what bothers
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me about tim waltz is the stolen valor guard do not pretend to be something that you're not but the timeline, it shows something very different than what he is saying. we're going to fact check it next and a former military veteran who was tim walz, his roommate in congress, is here to respond well okay. >> let me move. you set it aside, spike it. i'll tell them how liberty mutual customizes
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♪ ♪ saada luxury mattresses made of florida i'm melissa bell in paris. and this is cnn united states marine corps. >> when the united states of america asked me to go to iraq to serve my country. i did it. i did what they asked me to do it and i did honorably and i'm very proud of that service when tim waltz was asked by his country to go to iraq, you know what he did. he dropped out but the army and allowed his unit to go without him i guess, is the battle of the veterans. >> maybe it's a one-sided battle though, but senator j.d. vance attacking governor tim walz on his 24 years of military service. vance says that walz retired two months before his unit was told maybe deploying to iraq. now, let's do a little bit of a fact check because this timeline is very key to understanding this criticism and figuring out whether it's well-founded or
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complete hogwash as they say was actually filed paperwork to run for congress in february of 2005. the next month, the guard announced a possible deployment to iraq within two years. walls then announced he intended to stay in the race, quote whether that is in washington, dc or in iraq, he retired from his guards unit in may of 2005, although it's unclear when he submitted his retirement papers but two months later, his unit received deployment orders to iraq, and we should note while walz was not on that deployment, he was deployed with the minnesota national guard and august of 2003 to italy in a supporting role for the war in afghanistan while there, he did not see combat. but now vance is also accusing walls of falsely claiming he did serve in a combat zone. that claim comes from this clip of walls talking about gun control we can make sure that those weapons of war that i carried in war is the only place where those weapons i
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harris campaign spokesperson is responding to the accusation this evening saying, quote, in his 24 years of service, the governor carried fired and trained others to use weapons of war innumerable times. >> as for vance, he served for years in the marine, says an enlisted combat correspondent, which involves the gathering of military news in that role, vance was deployed once to iraq for roughly six months in his book, hillbilly elegy, vance says, quote, i was lucky to escape any real fighting i want to bring in patrick murphy, he's a former pennsylvania congressman who was elected to congress in the same year as governor walz. they also roomed together congressman murphy. thank you so much for being here. i just tell you, i'm sorry. prized even in politics, there will be an attack between veterans. i mean, you're also a veteran when you see these claims from bands that the governor somehow has what he called stolen valor that he's
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lied about his military service what's your response to these kinds of attacks sir vance has done that. >> i mean, tim walz has given 24 years of his service to our country in uniform, 24 years. and what our nation asked sergeant major walz to deploy for operation enduring freedom. he went overseas. that means he left his job. he left his wife and young kids he went overseas and serve where the army told them and it wasn't afghanistan was it was an italy. but that's where his unit was is for artillery unit from minnesota, the minnesota national guard for senator vance to do this, it's really disheartening, you know, when he is announced there's a lot of us veterans. i'm a proud democrat. you know, i didn't talk his military service. that's not what you do to your brother and sister veterans especially l4, the left than 1%
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that is served during a defining moment or country's history, the longest wars in iraq and afghanistan, you just don't do that and yet it's being done. congressmen and there is a particular statement and i i hear you words matter. and the word choice that governor waltz use is part of what is being used to attack them. and i will read for you in the audience what was said. the quote was those weapons of war that i carried in war they're point that suggests he's somehow exaggerating or just being untruthful. did that statement gave you any pause and the particular way he phrased it he is done thousands and thousands of interviews on television or radio, et cetera. >> and they find one little misstatement and he didn't he said was he was talking about weapons vor and that's what he's trained himself. he's trained hundreds, if not thousands of soldiers in those weapons award those 1682 assault rifles, those m4 cycle rifles, and that's the
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frustrating part he is making a broader point about his military service, about how these weapons of war have no place in our schools killing our kids, have no place shooting former president's like they're just wrong, right now. again i like tim walz believe in the second amendment. i like tim walz from a gun owner, but that doesn't mean we should have weapons, war in hands of people aren't trained and are ready an aren't mentally capable of handling them? >> i'm very glad that you pointed out this nuance and really, what was i can only describe as a deflection because the topic he was discussing was gun control and gun violence and common-sense regulation was being picked up on and said, it's something entirely different than what he was actually articulating, which is very important to so many americans, not the least which all the parents like myself were preparing for yet another school year where our children, elementary kids will have to have first an active shooter response drills in our schools congressman, there's
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also a newly surfaced interview from back in 2009 the vetting process and poppy others goes on the digging up is going to come you well know this. but he reflected governor walz reflected on why was he left the guard. we listen to what he had to say i left dana in april of 2005 and this was what you know, for me, i was able to just short of 25 years and it was it was to run for this office. we were really concerned that we were going to try and do both there's always the hatch act and some of the things that jet be very careful of obviously the hatch act very important in terms of not having conflicts of interest pose. what did you make of this statement? because some people are looking at this and assessing whether or not he was thinking about a violation or that he had committed one. what do you say? >> all right. i say that's exactly tim walz as a leader of character. he didn't want to make sure that he was when he was in uniform, he was focused on the task at hand. he was focused on his men and women in his unit when he was going to be a candidate for congress.
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why is that? >> because he saw with his own eyes serving our country the wrong basically policies of them, the bush administration that we didn't belong in iraq, that the counterbalance to iran in the middle east used to be iraq, which is no longer the case it was an unnecessary word is a strategic mistake. >> and i give two was a lot of credit and that's why bar tim walz is one of the leaders of the post 9-11 generation of us veterans who had been less than 1% that served during these times, during these defining moments. and basically gave the government a blank check to cash in, which included his own wife potentially and gun got worried and didn't happen. but then tim walz served in congress with distinction authoring the post-9-11 gi bill barr, which right now there's about 1.1 young americans and college and universities using
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that including j.d. vance when he was at yale and also to repeal of don't ask, don't tell, because that policy kicked out 13,000 over truth, just because who do they love? just because they were part of the lgbt community and then one last thing serving as the governor of minnesota, which i know, you know, that say well, he grew up there. he's school in law school, et cetera. what he wants the governor of minnesota, it was donald trump that said he did a great job during the riots president trump at the time said tim walz did a great job. it was tim walz who made that state the fifth best in job creation in the country. it is tim walz that helped make that the lowest unemployment rate in our nation. he has done a phenomenal job for minnesota guy families, and he will do a phenomenal job as our next vice president. >> that's what congressman patrick murphy. let me tell you how i was raised to respond to a veteran who has served. thank you for your service full stop.
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thanks. thank you. >> ahead a new election rule in georgia has some people crying foul and it could actually cause some pretty significant problems in november i'll explain all about it next as your advisor create a portfolio based only on your age and risk tolerance that's simply not good enough that create a planning are private wealth managers learned about you first, don't settle for a standard portfolio book. >> you're free meeting today at creative planning.com here we go. >> consumer cellular uses the same towers as big wireless, but then passes the savings on to you, save the money for something else. speaking of, i ordered us some thai food for unlimited talk in texts with reliable coverage starting at just $20 call consumer selling before my doctor and i chose breaths tree from my copd i had bad days flare-ups that could permanently damaged my lungs with brez tree, things changed for him registry gave me better
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with custom gear, get started today at customer.com erin burnett, outfront tomorrow at seven on cnn in georgia two words could create havoc come november, the state's election board approving new rules that allow local election officials to conduct what they're calling a reasonable inquiry to confirm if election results our indeed accurate. >> the three republicans on the five-person board say it's in the name of transparency, but the board did not define what it means to have a reasonable inquiry nor what would even trigger that inquiry that critics say that it could slow down certification and violate state law georgia is, you could imagine expected to be a
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battleground state, yet again, remember in 2020, biden only won by about 12,000 votes and trump is facing charges for allegedly leading a pressure campaign to reverse those very results. and speaking of trump, he praised the three republican election board members at his rally in atlanta just days before they passed the change i don't know if you've heard, but the georgia state election board, is in a very positive way. this is a very positive thing. my jury they're on fire. they're doing a great job. three members gianna's johnson break, jeffries, and janel king, three people are all pitfalls fighting for honesty, transparency, and victory naming him specifically, interesting one man who is fighting the new rule is joining me right now. they kill assess is the deputy
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chief counsel at crew citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington. the cows i'm glad you're here and helping us unpack this. this is really significant. i mean, you actually testified in the hearing yesterday, and as we know, georgia, the site of many conversations about that phone call with brad raffensperger, for example, he actually has repeatedly said that there was no fraud. it was a fair and free election in 2020 was not a stolen election well, this rule change, the way people perceive the integrity of elections. there. >> well, thank you, laura, for having me. i think that is a risk that allowing this sort of discretion at the county level could sow distrust could enable county-level officials to obstruct or delay the lawful certification of election results and that's what i was testifying to the board about the yesterday and i laid out the case for why the law clearly prohibits that sort of thing. but the board wasn't
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much interested in hearing about the law that's interesting to think about. >> also, there's ambiguity. i mean, discretion. prosecutors are often criticized for having unfettered discretion. they think, you know, you can indict a ham sandwich. there's oftentimes the elements of a particular crime they have to have a burden of proof to meet, hear the phrase is reasonable inquiry well, first of all, what does that mean? and what triggers it? and how is this different than the normal way of counting and certifying results so it's a great question. >> it doesn't really have a concrete meaning. that's part of the problem here that the term reasonable inquiry is undefined. it's open-ended, it's subjective there's 159 counties in georgia. county election officials in each county may have a different view of what's reasonable. and so this could lead to a patchwork system across the state where you have different officials in different counties performing different analyses that they call reasonable and there's no uniformity and
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there's no opportunity to even test this rule because they're trying to rush it into place before the election, which is mere months away. so there's not only as the rule untested it's being implemented at the last minute. so that's really troublesome in terms of how this is different from the normal procedure county election certification is a non-discretionary act. they don't have discretion over this, just like mike pence didn't have discretion on january 6, 2021 to overturn the election. he had to count the votes and certify the election. it's the same thing the county level and what these officials are trying to do is make this a discretionary act and there are 159 counties in georgia. they're over 3,000 counties in the united states. you can imagine what would happen if every county official in the country decided that they had discretion on whether to certify an election it also striking lack of uniformity. as you mentioned, that one person's rights could be compromised and not the same criteria and another county, the one person, one vote might
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be a little bit distinct in that instance. this shorter have legal challenges to this. but what any of these legal challenges that might come up would they be viable given the board's standing so i think both throughout the country where we have seen these issues come up, the state authorities and other parties have successfully gone to court and compelled certification through state law mechanisms. >> so those state law mechanisms do exist and they are effective in this instance, we are exploring all legal options to potentially challenge this rule, and that remains on the table the georgia election board is an administrative agency and it is subject to the procedural rules that apply to all administrative agencies. that was another thing i was trying to explain to the board yesterday. they are subject to the case law they are subject to the statutory law, just like any other citizen comment, i'm assuming as well, correct? >> correct. and that's what this process was. we were commenting on the proposed rule before it went into effect. and one of the things they have to consider is, is this consistent with the law are operating
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and detentions authorities finding possible explosives and chemicals inside the home of one of the suspects more than 200,000 fans were figured it i tend across the three days, both inside and outside of the stadium. >> so far, swift has not commented, but in 2019, she opened up better fears of touring after the 2017 it terror attack and ariana grande's concert in manchester the massacre at the country music festival in las vegas. saying quote, i carry quick clot army grade bandage dressing, which is for gunshot or stab wounds. we have to live bravely in order to truly feel alive. and that means not being ruled by our greatest fears. with us now. and authority on terrorism. colin p. clarke, director of research at the soufan group and author of after the caliphate, the islamic state and the future of the terrorist diaspora. khan. thank you so much for being here. this is so terrifying for
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so many people to think about this. and the police are saying that the suspects were radicalized online. one, just 19-years-old pledged allegiance to the leader of isis last month. how do authorities track and catch cases like this well, it seems in this case they had help from a foreign intelligence service, likely our own likely united states, providing some kind of signals intelligence to austrian authorities. >> but you're right, really young ages of the perpetrators. and this is really a trend we've team with the islamic state for some time in europe this year alone, there's been at least a half a dozen plots that have been disrupted in one plot, there was an individual as young as 13-years-old and this is the third time vienna has been targeted. in recent months, there was the vienna pride parade. there was isis plot against that there was another one on new year's eve against a cathedral. there so
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europe is under heavy stress right now, high alert that's unbelievable to think about the frequency which are dealing with this, but also chemicals were found in the 19-year-old suspect's home. >> was that tell you about the planning that went into this plot and what might have happened well, it tells you about how serious they were more will come out in the coming days, but i wouldn't be surprised if these individuals were in touch with what we call virtual potter, someone in the islamic state, probably islamic state course on which draws a lot of fighters from central asia, but also has outreach to individuels and the balkans. the caucuses and other, another kind of regions in that part of the world and it shows you that the goal was to conduct a high casualty attack on civilians, not too dissimilar from the ariana grande, a manchester arena bombing and killed 22 people and injured 1,000 more for so these people were determined and thankfully, the authority stopped them before they had a chance to attempt
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this attack. >> thank god, that is that has happened and that people were able to stop it. and you mentioned the way that europe and large venues have been vulnerable like that at 20 20:17, bombing and manchester is there a way to deter and protect particularly when you've got venues of this size and people would have been both inside and outside well, it's about hardening soft targets concert venues, hotels now, sadly, places of worship, and we're in a state of heightened alert. >> but at the same time, you know, there's fatigue, there's counterterrorism fatigue from 20 years of the so-called war on terrorism and so budgets have been reduced, personal now has been shifted to other hotspots like china, russia artificial intelligence, and so the benches increasingly thin when it comes to counterterrorism. and i don't think we're necessarily devoting enough resources like we were 20 years ago. it
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doesn't have to be at that same level, but it can't just completely tell off. we've got to hard and soft targets and we need more people looking at where the threats are coming from these are very trying times and difficult to think about the demographics, the, the youth relative youth people who would have been at that these venues as well. >> thank you so much for clarifying, giving us that important context. colin p. clarke thank you thanks for having me to astronauts still on the international space station after their spacecraft broke down weeks ago. will now bear returned there could be delayed until next year so what exactly is going on here? and we have a former nasa astronaut who might have some ideas just ahead. >> in the face of overwhelming odds. i'm left with only one option i'm going to have to science the out of this sunday on the whole story, donie o
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and the issues maybe maybe more serious than originally thought. nasa says it's exploring contingency plans, including having the astronauts that's hitch a ride on a space x craft. >> the thing is that wouldn't happen until february 2025 that's another six months. >> so if they're up there until february, they'd be roughly 230 unexpected days in space. who time they were supposed to come back to earth, assuming three square meals a day that 600 690 unexpected meals of space food more than 5,500 hours of being in i grow gravity and more than 32 unexpected weeks of being cooped up in orbit with the company at people you may or may not get along with, at least there's no c3po joining me now is garrett reisman, a former nasa astronaut who spent 95 days on the iss. garret. thank you so much for joining us tonight. this is strange and
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fascinating at all the same time, you've got astronaut frank rubio holding the record for the longest single spaceflight on the iss, 307 71 days so long stays, they can be done. but how unusual is it for this to have a delay like this yeah. >> well, first of all, i'm sure hoping that sunny and butch don't beat that record. i think they said be very happy to let frank keep that record. it is unusual whenever you go up into space, you never know exactly what's going to happen, especially on a test flight like this one. there's bound to be things that you didn't expect. and especially when you're going up to the space station for a long long-duration flight, you have to be prepared as i was for it to stretch out a little bit and in france thanks, kasie, we went from six months to over a year now when you're going on a test flight, a short flight that is only supposed to be eight days i think you're not really as prepared necessarily for it to stretch out this long. it's already been two
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months. we're talking about possibly another six months that is unusual. >> i mean, i'm thinking about what they may or may not have and how they come with the deficit and that point in time. i mean, the astronauts, there were brought up there to the iss on a new spacecraft, the boeing starliner. but now nasa is speculating that about having the tap spacex maybe bring them home. why is it so hard to get these astronauts back well, first of all, we should emphasize that nasa hasn't made a final decision. >> so it's still quite possible that they will come home within a month in starliner, as was originally intended. but they're looking at this backup plan. they really have two options. either either come home and starliner or wait for the spacex dragon, to show up and free up two seats. so take two people off of that flight, which will be launching at the end of september and then they would take the place of those two astronauts and come home when that flight is scheduled to come home in february 2025? hi, so that means that they would end up spending about eight months aboard the space station
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and the reason for that is just that they're not entirely sure what's wrong with the starliner. >> and that uncertainty is what's causing them to think of maybe we should take a plan b i mean, if they're uncertain about the mechanism, it's not like it's a trip from newark to philadelphia. >> i mean, it's space tried to come back to earth. not a lot of room for error in that a weigh. are there any medical risks associated with having that stay elongated the way it is not not necessarily, you know so when you're up there for that long, you have to worry about loss of muscle and loss of bone in your body, but we have countermeasures, we have ways of exercising in space to kind of keep that at bay so they're going to be healthy from that regard. >> the other thing you worry about when you look at unexpectedly staying a much longer period of time is radiation, how much radiation are you going to absorb? and the good news is that although sunny and butch are both have
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been up there for a while already, there's nowhere near the record the record holder for an american is peggy whitson. my commander or my first flight, and she has been up there for 675 days so son who has been up there for 385 days, even with six more months, it's still going to be more than 100 days short of that record. so she should be fine from radiation standpoint birch's is another hundred plus days behind sunny so he'll be ok. too. and they're all way behind my old crewmate, oleg. nico, who has got the overall record of 1064 days and counting he still up there with sunny and butch right now? >> wow. >> i mean, the stories, the camaraderie the agony, there might be something the same story being told 12 times a day, which would drive me nuts. and if you've mentioned radiation, i think i'm going to tap out and say give me the next flight home, but talk to me about the mental the tenacity that has to happen. i mean, that is a long time to be anywhere in close quarters, the
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expectation, of course, to be in one area, the excitement of course as well to be an astronaut, to be launched in this way. but what do you think they're going through mentally when you're on a mission like this. >> well, anytime the plan changes that can mess with you and we're all trained to deal with that uncertainty and to be professional about it. but, you know, i'll be honest. it does it does get to you at times and i think that when you're going into a long duration mission on space station, when you're expecting to be up there for six months and it turns into say, seven months or eight months. that's one thing. but when you're going up, they're expecting it to be eight days and suddenly it's eight months, right? that's a different thing. now, what sunny and butch have going for them is they both been space station crew members before. so they've been trained on what we call expeditionary behavior. how to get along, how to play nice. it's like all the things you learned in kindergarten. but maybe at a higher ed bit more advanced level. and they're good at it and so i think that they're going to be fine if this does end up
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