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direct redefining durrance. the democratic national convention starts monday, august 19 on cnn and streaming on max this is gps, the global public square. >> welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria today on the program an exclusive interview with the so-called iron lady of venezuela the us says her opposition alliance won the recent presidential election, but she's now in hiding, is sitting president tell us maduro threatened sir, and insists victory is his also with hamas's chief go, she waited dead and fears of a widening war ever growing what is next for israel and its

neighbors? >> then america has the possibility once again of having a madam president but this election is about gender in many more ways than that i'll explore with the atlantic's derek thompson but first, here's my take there has been a tendency among democrats to get exasperated at the american people for not voting. >> there material interests for policies that would help them better their conditions they wonder is the title of a book raising the concern goes, what's the matter with kansas? and what they really mean is what's the matter with america but in recent years, a growing body of scholarship has shown that people don't tend to vote rationally but rather use voting to express themselves in emotional ideological, and moral ways this view of human

behavior, which i would associate with scholars like daniel kahneman and jonathan height sees elections as involving a great deal of intangible intuition and passion voters choose from the gut and then rationalize their choice consciously or not kamala harris's campaign seems premised on this ladder, intuition-based approach ever since she became the presumptive nominee of the democratic party, harris has run a remarkably focused and disciplined campaign what that seems deliberately light on substance and high on feelings. you don't see the dozens of policy papers that were hallmark of hillary clinton's 2016 campaign. harris has not yet given extensive interviews, are done, press conferences, which would force her to detail her positions on specific issues and we have an election to win. >> instead. >> she has introduced herself to the american people in

entirely human terms, presenting herself as a dynamic, warm, funny, and optimistic person you just fell out of a movie it's heavy on vibes. and so far, it seems to be working her running mate pick follows the same pattern. >> the practical choice would have been josh shapiro. he is a smart, effective, popular governor of the swing state with the most electoral votes the math makes sense instead, she chose the governor of a bluer state. >> but one who projects an image that has resonated throughout the country of folksy affable, kindhearted man. the tim walz pick reminds us that sometimes eq is as important as iq this is a turning of the tables donald trump and the republicans have tended to be masters of the politics of emotion emphasizing strength and evoking fear. >> but for now harris is hopefulness. the sense of joy

that walz speaks of on the campaign trail appears to be dominating there's also a turning of the tables in another sense, in every presidential election over the past three decades until 2020, that democrats, now the party of the college educated class nominated someone who had a degree from harvard or yale at the top of the ticket? but now harris and walz are continuing the turn away from the ivy lee begun by biden and harris and it is the republicans who haven't all iv ticket with one billionaire and one venture capitalist watch tim walz's video during his first campaign for governor. giving voters tips on how to fix a burned-out headlight harness with an $8 part it's hard to imagine barak obama doing that. so far, the harris approach has allowed her to write the sinking democratic ship solidly blue states that had turned into

potential toss-ups are now back in the blue column. she's leading trump in some national polls and is effectively tied in the swing states. but this momentum probably has a ceiling america is evenly divided since 2000 presidential elections have been close run affairs with the exception of obama's wins it seems likely that this one will also be decided by a few hundred thousand votes in pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, arizona, georgia, north carolina, and nevada two prevail. harris will have to start filling in the substance of her campaign the democrats biggest strength is the issue of abortion. and she has been eloquent and effective on it. the biggest weakness is immigration, which galvanizes republicans and even some independents. harris has been speaking much more about that than biden did. and she's been given a gift by donald trump when he forced republicans to abandon the bipartisan

immigration bill that was basically a republican wish list. he gave the democrats and escape hatch on the issue rather than having to defend their decidedly weaken hapless stand on the collapse of the asylum process they could now simply point out that they supported a bipartisan, tough crackdown at the border. and trump did not harris has already said she would try to pass this bill if she wins and she should go further by pledging to junk the entire asylum system and build a new one. we live in a different world from when that system was created. and our laws must reflect the reality that there are now millions of asylum seekers across the world. will the harris strategy work? it's early still, and it will be a tough close contest. she has real vulnerabilities but so far, she has chosen a somewhat unusual path that could pay off in november go to cnn.com slash

fareed for a link to my washington post column and let's get started it has been two weeks since venezuela's elections and the united states and many countries in the region have said that the winner by a landslide was the opposition candidate, edmundo gonzalez but incumbent president nicolas maduro, who has ruled for more than a decade claims he is the victor and is showing no signs of letting go of power his authorities have violently cracked down on protesters and they say they have arrested thousands of people my next guest is the country's leading opposition figure maria corina machado, who was banned from running for president and assigned edmundo gonzalez to run in her place. >> she fears for her country, but also her own safety,

including her life. much machado joins me from an undisclosed location in venezuela maria, welcome. first, tell us about your own personal safety how worried are you that we know that there are the police and looking for you, even as we speak well for everyone in venezuela last year, for their freedom being taken away and for their lives as we speak tens of four leaders around the country of our movement are really taking away from even from their house. >> as you said thousands have been detained. 24 people have been killed. and we get threads every single day from the regime that they're going to go against edmundo gonzalez for me what do you think happens next because maduro is refusing to relinquish power, they're

cracking down on protesters. there, jailing people. how can you how can you hold on? what is do you have a plan? >> oh, certainly we do an easing very important to understand the magnitude of what happened on july 20 against all obstacles with the media, totally censored with threats and we were able to organize a network in which volunteers christie is splayed all around the country more than 1 million people with specific tasks. word that day and were able to get the proof's in the original official tally sheets that it mundo gonzalez won by a landslide. this is something that regime never expected. >> and i have to say that that they, we got cooperation from the military and the officials of the electoral council in every single polling stations.

>> so we were able for hours to have the proof in our hand these tally sheets were digitalized, are in a web page for the world to see and hear scrutinized, though, this is a moment totally different from what would leave before the regina is in its weakest position with knowledge, intimacy unleashing this wave of terror and persecution that has isolated them not only from the venezuelan people, but also from the international community. so this is a moment to keep pressing. to make maduro understand that kyiv's best option he's to accept the terms of a negotiated transition to democracy. >> what would you like the united states to do? it has, it has, it has said the election was a fraud that you in fact one, do you want to see more absolutely. >> not only from the united states i am very thankful for the biden administration and to

both parties in congress and suisse, is a bipartisan issue because it is well understood. that is a major priority in terms of national security and the security of the hemisphere because venezuela has turned into the ally in the region of russia, iran, china, cuba, that from venezuela is a safe haven for irregular activities of criminal networks that are spreading in the region. not only narcotrafficking, but illegal mining graphic of human beings so it is a critical issue to solve this are you that this is a country that 8 million people have left from. this is the largest migration out of a country in decades. and as long as i can remember, are you worried that what is left behind is a very broken society and it will not be

possible to amend it on the contrary we've reached this point because in the last months something unique, a row arose this is a socialt that has to, you're down older barriers to tear is more put divide us black and white region for left and right we have demolished those division this is a united country and we will keep fighting. we have a united opposition. >> but because beyond the political part that yawn political party. and we are opening our arms more and more people that didn't support it. and boondoggle salads on the election day. but that today, we're all united for the truth to prevail for popular sovereignty to be respected.

and to move ahead in a healing process that will make venezuela not only rick country will make it the energy hub of the americas. we will make it a prosperous nation in which our children will come back maria. >> thank you so much it's so wonderful to hear from you and please stay safe thank you very much. >> we'll do our best in that sense, and we will prevail. >> believe me, we need, you we will prevail that. >> was maria machado next on gps. israel is bracing for a violent response after the killing of senior hezbollah and hamas figures. i will ask ronen bergman whether israel has a plan for what to do next russia for trial spy on us. >> we were spying on them. >> this is a secret, war. >> secrets and spies. now

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attacking? >> what kind of attack you hearing that? hizballah or iran is preparing? >> thank you for inviting me for the complement assessment. now is that it is not a synchronized attack to coordinated attack balah will start in iran, will attack few hours, maybe more after hizballah it will happen early next week there are some assumptions based on some intelligence that it will take place on monday, august 12 which is also a religious he'd the jewish calendar because this is the day when the 42 tradition the jewish temple in jerusalem was destroyed and the jewish people went to exile according to israeli intelligence, as much as they know, it seems that both iran

and hezbollah believed the need to retaliate. but not retaliate to significantly. so not force israel into a counter attack. which could lead to a deterioration to a regional war so would it be fair to say that many people in the israeli military and defense establishment and the defense minister the army chief of staff agree broadly with the biden administration's pressure on netanyahu i think if you if you could run the ball and said the leadership of the defense establishment, the idf the shin bet mossad intelligence agency you will find a consensus supportive of any kind of pressure from the u.s government on netanyahu to sign a deal to go for a ceasefire deal not just because of the hostages, but also in

some kind of a settlement of a day after eid gun his coalition. they all believe this war needs to end i think that behind the scenes even israeli officials who actively speak with american colleagues and tell them you are our only hope. you will be the only way that we can move mr. netanyahu to do something to accept with you rhona, let me ask you a broader question which is it does feel like this whole period of hostilities has become a kind of a long low grade war for israel. >> this must be taking a toll on israeli society because israel is generally for short wars often further away from

the, from israel. this is a different kind of struggle. is israel? how are people feeling about it? >> people are said exhausted frustrated, angry they sense of despair more and more stories about israelis who eat israel. some before very short time until be expected, iranian retaliation comes. then we come back, but some of them for longer term, some permanently people do not feel safe the week we look at october 7, 2000 2023 massive intelligence blunder similar as they say to the one exactly 50 years in one day before. but that war lasted

18 days and here we are almost a year after israel was not yet able to achieve even one of the two main goals that it sets this to totally dismantle hamas capture or kill its, its, its leaders and free the hostages and because this war is run without the ability to finish it with a political move with a day after, that will ensure that hamas would not retake the streep what's the idea is baby could go on and on and people in israel i think for the first time in my life since i remember the field a deep sense of lack of confidence that is what would prevent that. it's

not clear. it was always taking the politicians are corrupt. >> maybe the possession of the bureaucracies is not functioning well, but at israel will prevail. >> israel will bring the promise. then is inherent to the establishment of israel. >> a place to keep the jews safe and people are losing the confidence of israel being able to fulfill that promise. ronen bergman always a pleasure to talk to you. thank you thank you next on gps, if israel and has well, as relatively low grade cross-border fighting erupts into something much larger. what will it mean for lebanon and for the region at large? i'll explore that when we come back cnn is live from chicago as democrats unite to offer their support to a new

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avoided? joining me now is maha yahya director of the carnegie middle east center from beirut welcome mahab tell me the last time around when iran and israel went through this, this process, it was fairly well-choreographed while the iranians did do a big attack, they essentially alerted the israel and the united states. so that the missiles could be intercepted is it your sense in lebanon that they expect something similar kind of almost choreographed escalation, so that it doesn't get out of control? or is there fear of an all-out war? >> good morning. thank you for having me i think there is a genuine fear of an all-out war in the sense that things can get out of hand very quickly there is the expectation that there will not be a repetition of april 13 in the sense that

iran telegraphed its intentions 72 hours earlier. and we saw the flight show and of sending out drones an hours ahead, et cetera so that this time there would be a coordinated attack. it would be an attack against a military target. they will i suspect avoid civilian infrastructure or civilian areas, but would focus on a military oh, good but that it would be a surprise this time round, the attack would be the intention would be to cause pain too retaliate in a way that leaves an impression and does what april 13 could not do, which is from an iranian perspective, restore deterrence they thought that the april 13 attack and the kind of for tat

that we saw had ended that episode there. and therefore, the wasn't going to be an escalation anymore. now, they realize that the what they thought had been a deterrence was not a deterrence and that they israeli prime minister bibi netanyahu is willing to up the ante even further. so i think they're hoping that with this attack they'd be able to restore some sort of a deterrence what do you mean by the way, that attack is going to happen sorry is lebanon are people in lebanon worried that this, this tussle between israel and hezbollah is going to result in massive destruction of the the country itself, which is in any case john and i kind of in an economic crisis they're terrified and all honesty. >> i mean, across the country, people are terrified of another conflict. nothing will happen without hezbollah when it comes to the decision regarding war at the same time, iran is

coordinating very closely with hezbollah if hezbollah were to retaliate and attack israel in a more systematic manner respond in a more systematic matter than what it has done so far. this would not happen without an iranian green light. there is very tight coordination across, across both capitals sense honestly is that with this new effort, this new coal by the qatari egyptian and united states government to resume discussions around the prospect of some sort of cessation of hostilities in gaza. with very needed release of hostages with some palestinian prisoners that this may bring about the very needed, desperately needed de-escalation in the region this would allow the israelis to say, we've brought home the

hostages. this is an increasing demand. it's absolutely shameful. that 1010 months after the started there are still so many hostages still in captivity. at the same time, it allows the iranians to say, okay the blood of smile haniyeh did not go in vain. we managed to secure a cessation of hostilities and it would apiece hezbollah at the same time. so it would stave off this kind of back-and-forth, an escalation that even if the intention is to keep it limited, could very easily. i'm the slightest accident could really derail it into a much larger confrontation that would bag everybody else in and would really become regional. it will not remain limited to lebanon and to israel well fascinating, complicated situation. thank you, maha yahya for joining us. next on gps. the 2024 election it's a battle of sexes, a man and a woman, both seeking the

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right. the divide could sharpen as november's election is now a contest between a democratic woman, kamala harris, and a republican can man donald trump. but my next guest says that's not the full story that the two parties are not so much divided by gender, but rather by their views on gender derek thompson is a staff writer at the atlantic. they're welcome first, i just want to clarify the issue. there is a gender gap and has been for a long time, right? in terms of who votes for which party? >> it has been a very stark gender gap in the american electorate for decades majority in american men have not voted for the democratic candidate for president since 1976. that was for jimmy carter and women have not consistently voted for republicans since 1980. in fact, this concept of a gender gap was first mentioned in a washington post article in 1981 remarking that the election of ronald reagan, the clear election of ronald reagan, saw

men moving through republican party with women who thinks the democratic party's, we've been living in a world with a clear gender gap for at least 40, maybe up to 50 years but it's only last two years that people have paid closer attention to this divergence among younger men, any younger one and to you the most interesting thing is that we are now dividing and this is new in terms of views on gender. meaningful example in the old days, few decades ago, men and women had roughly the same views of the roughly the same divide on abortion. but that's now dramatically different. >> that's right. historically, if you ask men and women, are you pro-choice or pro-life, it was very difficult to tell the difference between men and women. but in the last few years, women have become much more likely to say that they're pro choice rather than pro life. all men have basically stayed the same. >> but other polls show that men are in fact shifting to the right at pretty much the same rate at which young women are

shifting to the left. >> there's poll showing that men are more likely to vote republican or vote for donald trump in an any time. this century. so, yes, there is some polling that is suggesting that not only do you have this long-standing gender gap in the overall electorate, you have this polarization happening within the younger elected, younger electorate among millennials and gen z, where they seem to be rolling away from each other in an accelerated pace so what is going on, derek, why is this happening? he's a couple of things that could be happening. one thing that could be happening is that they're polarizing each other. you know, some people that i talked to say that as women move to the left, it's all arising. young men were saying, you know what, i'm not i don't support what feminism means anymore, so i'm going to go for donald trump. other people that i've talked to including richard reeves, who is a very wonderful research pitcher on issues facing young boys and men, who essentially said that the democratic party hasn't opened up two young men in a significant way. the democrats,

progressive lives are much better. he says at identifying examples of toxic masculinity, then and identify examples of positive masculinity that are distinct from femininity but to your earlier point, i think that the strongest evidence that we have is that this isn't just about gender. it's about the way the democrats and republicans think about gender. one-way was put to me, is that it's not as if republicans are from mars and metta from venus. it's that republican men and women our from mars and democratic men and women are from venus. and so essentially you can look at the way that say j.d. vance talks about the fact that childless women aren't doing their duty, or the way the tim walz says that the republican party has become a bunch of key man women haters. this is the way in which i think that the park parties themselves are talking about gender in very different ways, and that i think is new this is the kind of point i think that james carville is

making when he says that the democratic party has become too feminized, that it sounds to feminized, and it drives young men away, right? i know that he said that i know it was controversial when he said that and the way that i prefer to reframe it is to put it in the way that people like richard reeves have set it, which is that whether or not the democratic party is to feminized rest of this is to feminized. i'm not sure that i'm an expert in the sort of optimal level of feminization of any particular the party. when i feel more comfortable with saying something like this i think progressive's and especially very online progressives have gotten extremely articulate at pointing out examples of toxic masculinity. i don't see as much emphasis on the left of highlighting examples of positive masculinity that is distinct from feminism. what distinct from femininity? the fact is, men vote to at its progressives aren't going to offer a robust vision of masculinity for young men who are looking for that, then they are leaving the stage empty, an

empty stage will be filled by people like donald trump, who has a kind of apex victim masculinity, where he holds himself up as the strongest it's man, but also feels extremely victimized by the elites. >> and then you also, i think on the right, have a kind of traditional puritan kind of masculinity offered by the vice presidential candidates that donald trump has run with mike pence and j.d. >> vance, who i don't think are the same kind of x creditors that donald trump is, but clearly offer. i think another kind of very traditional masculinity. i think democrats leave that stage bears someone else will fill it. and right now, the polls seem to show that young men are indeed listing to the right. i think because they think the right is the only party that is talking directly to their johnson pleasure to have you on thank you very much next on gps. >> how many of us wish we were better at communicating with others while my next guest yes. says it is a skill set that can be learned, will talk all about it when we come back tonight on

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>> and he says they possess a skill set that can be learned charles duhigg is a pulitzer prize-winning reporter. his new book is super communicators how do you unlock the secret language of connection charles, i want to begin not with the solution, but with the problem. part of what drew you to this book is the way in which we have as a country become unable to communicate, particularly across political divides. >> absolutely. there was a time when our parents were in the parents of folks watching were in school. they took a class called home economics or interpersonal relations. we learned in high school how to have conversations with each other. but as schools became more technical, that dropped out of the curriculum and we're seeing the consequences of that now we forgotten how to have these conversations. we've just gotten out of practice with of having them. >> i wonder with a lot of it is that we communicate now in a very weird way, largely through emails, through texts, through

social media, which is all written and where you never seen the human being, your community it was struck with the fact that i get a certain amount of nasty stuff on twitter and things like that. >> i never get that in person. >> it's much easier to be really nasty when you're anonymous. so pseudonymous and you're sitting in your basement fuming when you actually dealing with a human being whom you're looking at? it's communication is different. >> ads in the book, there's a story about an experiment that was done where they brought together gun control advocates and gun rights activists and they brought them together in-person in washington, dc and they had a wonderful weekend. people learn to communicate with each other. they taught them some skills to help them. then they sent everyone home and they created a private facebook group for them. and within 45 minutes, people were calling each other. jack booted nazis, like it fell apart immediately. and i think exactly for the reason, you mentioned is that oftentimes we tend to forget that different forms of communication have different rules, different norms and we just assume that

if i say something sarcastic, you hear the sarcasm in my voice and forget that if i type something sarcastic, you think i'm being serious? you've got offended. >> so when you talk about supercommunicators and to me the most interesting part of your book is building relationships. how do you, how do couples fight productively rather than in ways that damaged the relationship? what do you think the key is there? because that in some ways as the most important communication human beings will have in their lives because it's daily and it's high stakes. >> absolutely. >> this was actually one of the things that led to the book was that i would come home from work and gotten this bad pattern with my wife. right. complain about my day and she would give me good advice. and instead of being able to hear her advice, i would get even more upset and i would say, why aren't you supporting the words you and when i went to talk to researchers, but they told me is look, here's the mistake you're making. we tend to think of a discussion as being about one thing about your day, but actually, every discussion is made up of different kinds of conversations so they tend to fall in one of three buckets.

there's practical conversations where we're solving problems together, making plans there's emotional conversations where i might tell you how i feel. i don't want you to solve my feelings. i want you to empathize and then there's social conversations which are about the social identities that are important to us and how we think society sees us and un each other if we're not having the same kind of conversation at the same moment, that's when a miscommunication occurs. so if somebody is clearly an emotional mindset, if you match them, or you invite them to match, you and you're going to connect with each other and you're gonna be able to hear each other much better. >> so after writing this book, do you feel like your relationship with your wife has gotten so much better now, when i come home and i can play and she says do you want me to do you want me to just to do you want me to solve this problem or do you want me just to listen because you just need to vent and actually being asked that and i do the same thing with my kids. there's this technique that we use called the they teach in schools where if someone can, my kid comes up with a problem, i say, do you wanna be helped? do you want to be hugged or do you want to be heard? the three kinds of guns faces, the practical,

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