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incompetent socialists luna take keep breaking our economy for four more years. donald, trump hits the ground and talk about the economy and a swing state, but he could not keep himself from leveling personal attacks and kamala harris is going to be side-by-side today with president biden for the first time since becoming the democratic nominee. and j.d. vance, not quite ready to commit to debating. his counterpart as tim walz accepts the invitation to meet in october alright it is 6:00 a.m. here in washington alive. look at the white house on this thursday morning. 20 everyone, i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us donald trump back on the campaign trail and struggling to stay on message trump campaign build

his rally in north carolina as focused on his economic policies trump himself wasn't so sure we're talking about a thing called the academy. they wanted to do a speech on the economy. a lot of people are very devastated by what's happened with inflation and all of the other things. so we're doing this as a intellectual spiritual, intellectuals today. they say it's the most important subject i'm not sure it is i'm not sure it is instead, trump continued personal attacks on that many of his republican supporters have urged him to stop doing for nearly four years. camila has grappled as the american academy has burned what happened to her left. >> i haven't heard that laugh at about a week. that's why they keep her off their say that's why she's disappeared. let's the laugh of a crazy person. i will tell you. you haven't gone too crazy she's crazy this version of trump has

emerged. >> of course, because he is suddenly faced with a real race against harris. naturally, he is fixated again on his poll numbers we have some very good polls coming out today. i just heard despite all the fake publicity about this radical left person from san francisco how san francisco doing not like not like north carolina now, we have some very good polls coming out. so that's good, you know, good alright, let's see about those polls. >> a new pew poll finds that trump and harris are effectively tied at 45 and 46% support with independent robert f. kennedy pulling 7% support, a new monmouth university poll shows a massive shift among registered voters voters in their enthusiasm about the 2024 race, at 5% of democrats now describe themselves as either very or somewhat enthusiastic about the election that is up a staggering 39 points since june when joe biden was still in the

race. republican voters have remained steady throughout the last two months with 71% enthusiastic about the election a recent financial times poll showed that harris and trump are trusted equally on handling the economy. a subject that trump did eventually touch on at his north carolina rally people go to the grocery store and they have less than half a half a deal. in fact, i had something here, right? i did have something. i would show you wait a minute. i don't know if you've seen this. i used it once. i have it, i do have it look at this look at this. so this is tic-tacs but that's what happened. this is inflation. this is tiktok this is the okay, joining us now to discuss elliot williams, cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor molly ball, senior political correspondent, wall street journal, brad woodhouse, senior adviser to the democratic national committee shermichael singleton, republican strategist, and cnn

political commentator you're laughing, but it's good times. >> i mean, an economic speech where attacks the tax, the vice president makes phone or mixed front of her laugh and actually says the economy is not the, not the number one issue on the same day that inflation went below 3% for the first time since 2021. so, you know what, i think he should do more events shermichael do you agree? i mean, yes, but we're not type of event takes like the former president still has an advantage by a lot of polls on this particular issue, which is why you saw former speaker the house kevin mccarthy. you saw former governor nikki haley former are not former current senator lindsey graham, all saying stick with the message because we have the advantage. kenny, i don't know know. >> elliot williams one of the things that the new york times wrote about how trump goes with his instincts over strategy,

right? they say this, liam donovan and republican strategist, war in the trump's attacks on harris threatened the permission structure that he's been building for republicans outside his base of support to support him, quote you have this very strange victimhood and grievance which can when channeled well by trumpy effective. right now, it's actually actively harming him because he's marinating in that rather than trying to actually drive a campaign message and define harris. >> yeah, i guess the question is, is anybody shocked by any of this at this point and shermichael's point people have people around donald trump have for years been saying, stay on message, stay on at like star wars, stay on target entire day. i'm sorry. somehow after four years in the presidency three-plus years of the biden ministration. it it has not caught on and no one should be shocked at all here the fact is he's now gotten opponent that doesn't even need to capitalize on it can in effect sit there and wait and let donald trump implode as a

candidate. it's i just i guess i push back a little bit not not to use your michael, but on this idea that there is somehow something remarkable about the fact that donald trump can stay on that we're gonna get a neutron, right? >> yeah, i mean, even, even in so there were certainly, there was tragedy confronting the campaign some time ago. >> and that was going to be the moment that donald trump changed. then there was you know, getting a new candidate that could revivify the trump campaign and that didn't work. it's not going to change just a question now for people as to what they want when they go to the, go to the polls in november yeah. >> i mean, i think that's exactly right. he's always the same person and he's a famously on disciplined candidate in his frustration, you know, the bad mood that he's in because he's in a different situation campaign, wise, only causes him to be more on disciplined and to make more of these zany he personal attacks, he's never been someone and for a lot of his followers, this is a plus,

right? that he is, he is always the same. he's not like those phony politicians who stick their finger in the wind and say whatever different messages on their teleprompter from one day to the next, he's up there arguing with the teleprompter and saying, well, it says here i should talk about the economy, but i think that's, i don't it's kind of funny, but it's, you know, obviously the campaign has a theory of the case that if this isn't an election about the issues he wins. if this is an election about this administration's policies, the biden-harris administration, and how it has handled particularly the economy and the border. then they believe that donald trump winds that contrast. but if instead, it's about, you know, what races kamala harris or these were the crowds real or were they a.i. or all of these other insane things that again are constantly coming kind of donald trump's mouth. this is not new, this has been his entire decade in politics. but

if the campaign is about trump basically, that is a much more difficult election for him to win. >> you know, casey in the last hour you ran that classic clip of reagan saying, are you better off today than you were four years ago? and ultimately that's the question. any presidential election. and somehow people seem to have forgotten what they got with donald trump is present. it was a lot of this in a time that's even and we can talk about inflation later in the program with a different economy and so on. but you had a president who was out there every day, particularly during during the middle of a major crisis that's speaking like this. and somehow that's gotten out of people's heads. now, obviously, when it was it was a different a different situation. right? well, you couldn't stand up against what trump was offering, well, that it was a different situation, but to your point, you know when trump lost in 2021 of the reasons we're people, we're tired of this shtick. they were tired. they were tired of the chaos yes, they were tired of the tweets. of course. >> it was also covid inject bleach inject bleach and it was

in now we're back to one thing about trump is he's since he's entered instant gratification like he can't give an economic speech because people aren't going to go wild. you know, he couldn't stay on script at, the republican national convention. when he gave that speech versus 30 minutes were very heartfelt, very emotional, but the crowd wasn't reacting to it the way that they react. the red meat. so he went on 60 minutes of a complete, of a complete diatribe. i think, you know, we were talking shermichael and i were talking in the green room about this is a professional campaign and i mean chris so the video is particularly been around for a long time. the problem they have is at the top of the ticket and the lack in the lack of discipline and in a world where they were running against joe biden, the campaign was a little bit free to just do its thing, run its race, stay ahead amid, didn't have to worry about it as much. well i think the emergence of this new ticket has just freaked donald trump out. >> the fact that he has spent as much time trying to push back on crowd size as he is talking about the economy or

the border or crime is just an indication of who donald trump, who donald trump is and he's easily baited. >> the case. yeah, i get all of those points. but the race is still very close. yes, it's 2016, and 2020, the former president was underestimated by nine points, five points of view or the factor those numbers in this time around based on the current national polling that gives us the foreign president is still a point or two ahead of the vice president. there are still some issues at the vice president is struggling on some demographics. she's still struggling with she's still behind where she needs to be for a democrat with latino voters. she's still behind where she needs to be with black voters. you look at men in general, she's having a lot of issues there, particularly with young men of color. so there's still some opportunities for the former president to make his case to potentially return back to the white house on this is why his behavior matters so much, right? it doesn't matter as much in a race that is not close, but he could either he could lose it for himself. my continuing to do this. all right. coming up here on cnn

this this morning, president biden kamala harris together again, they're going to be in maryland today, their first trip together since president's exit from the race, plus tim walz locks and a commitment to debate. j.d. vance so far stopping short of doing the same and donald trump makes that visit to north carolina ahead of his opponents trip to the same battleground state we're going to dig in to the economy does anyone here, feel richer under kamala harris crooked joe that you were during the trump administration cnn is live from chicago as democrats unite to offer their support the to a new nominee and her running mate fellow cnn for complete coverage, the democratic national convention monday at seven on cnn and streaming on max an alternative to pills, valtteri is a clinically proven arthritis pain relief gel which penetrates deep to target the source of pain with

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economic policy speech set for friday according to new reporting here at cnn, harris expected to call for a federal ban on price gouging aimed at lowering grocery store prices. >> the plan would give the federal trade commission more authorization to go after the price gougers the focus on the economy is of course here's why voters have consistently said it is the top issue in the campaign. a recent npr, pbs marist poll shows likely voters giving trump a 51 to 48 edge over harris handling on the economy that is within the margin of error and it's closer. molly ball, than it was when biden was so at the top of the ticket when that was 54 at 45, it does seem like there is an opening here for harris. there's also reporting from axios that says that she wants to be different from joe biden on this. she wants to make a distinctions. do you think there's an opening with voters for her to do that? >> they're clearly seems to be and it's a little bit ironic considering that she is literally in the white house right now, that nonetheless,

the majority of voters in some of this polling say that she's the candidate who represents change in this race. she's the candidate who represents a new generation turning the page going forward into the future and you hear her making this case in her speeches talking about the future versus the past. and, in a race where so many voters previously were annoyed that they were facing the same two candidates as last time. and so many candidates were i started sorry, so many voters were tired of this. this trump versus biden race. she's really managed to break out and be seen as offering something different and as a result, even though she's been part of this administration, voters don't seem to be hanging all of its policies that they don't like on her to the degree that they were biden and she does seem to have an opening to define herself in a different way. and a lot of that is going it seems like it's going to be just talking about the same policies in a different way, talking

about this push against corporations by invoking her past as a prosecutor is one example. so when she talks about this price gouging effort, she can say, i've gone after big corporations, that's what i did as attorney general and so by invoking her experience, i think there's a hope that she can cast some of these initiatives in a different light even if there are a lot of the same initiative. >> yeah, frank luntz, the republican pollster, was on cnbc yesterday hey, talking about the economy and kind of what harris needs to do and he said it's pretty simple. let's, let's watch what he said briefly if that plan of action, those details are things that the public wants, they will ignore the criticism and these soft voters will become intense voters she's talking about the number one issue facing the country and donald trump is talking about crowd size i mean right, lots just nailed it

right now, right on the head. >> i mean, if you look, there's at least one poll that shows that she's slightly hands are tied on the economy. the poll you just showed you, it's within the margin of error. and remember, donald trump led on people who thought he could do better on the economy over joe biden when joe biden won in 2020. so just making it closer, i think is critically important for the vice president, but i think she's got a plan. i mean, people i keep hearing. where's your plan? where's her details? we're here. we got one today price gouging well planned, and i'm sure i will also say that this headline in the times is vagueness is a strategy as harris prepares for economic message, like they're kind of doing it on purpose. it's seats. >> i'm not there the new york times knows what's going to be in her speech tomorrow or what the details oh, they say ms harris will outline a sort of rebooted the economic agenda, coordinate four people familiar with harris as planned. she will lay out an approach relatively light on details. they said, well, what we'll

see, i mean, you know, but i think what you what you see on the economy though, is that the republican argument against the biden-harris administration is evaporating i mean, you know, we have for the first time since 2021, we have a two on the number of inflation instead of a three-year or four or a five, we have low unemployment. >> we have great growth, and almost every analyst out there and, you know, the big, the big focus on walshe's, you're saying no recession and look, it's a political horse race and your opponent is imploding and shooting himself in the foot. and why go further than, you need to when you have donald trump out there not taking what's been handed him on that inflation point. inflation hasn't been below 3% since i think 2021. the one sentence is guess who? wasn't president any more in 2021? me, the last time you had this kind of the economy doing as well as it is. i was president. he can't say those words because

he is a disastrously poor candidate and she is riding a wave of enthusiasm. it's almost let the other guy do his work for you and hope you make it to november 5. >> i mean, like staying on message, obviously matters. there is definitely an opportunity for the former president to make a case against vice president harris. i get the point of when she was a prosecutor, she went after corporations for price gouging, but she's been the vice president for three-and-a-half years now and the biden's positions on the economy, generally speaking, is also kamala harris is problem on the economy generally speaking, there's a reason why i would argue the vice president is sort of lacking in detail. it's because they haven't figured out what's the message or the plan under a harris walz administration to decrease inflation? inflation further to increase wages for the average voter. if you were to look at governor walz, for example, high taxes in his state are having more people leave the state versus coming in. and so i think there's a strong case to make on that front. i'm sorry. >> i probably got to go, but i

mean, look, again, this has risen to 705. why? this? short, short, short campaign really works to harris's advantage. all right, coming up here on cnn this morning, harris returning to the role of just vice president for the day. she's joining president biden in maryland, their first joint trip since he dropped out, plus hurricane ernesto dumping nearly a foot of rain on parts of puerto rico. a look at where the storm is headed next five good things. listen wherever you get your podcasts when you're the. leader is disaster clean up and restoration how do you make like an ever even happened happened sir ever even happened that moment you walk in the office, and people are wearing the same year, you feel a sense of connectedness and belonging right away in our shirts from custody help bring

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half 1 million customers. so that's really saying something that's going to take some time for them to recover and get the lights turn back on. and of course course, the buildings cool down because of course temperatures will start to warm, being that it is summer. now this is the current path of hurricane ernesto. there's a lot of dry air starting to wrap into this system, so it's having trouble really coming to get that eyewall. like we would see with a strengthening storm nonetheless, it is anticipated to strengthen going forward, there are hurricane warnings in bermuda, worst timeframe for weather for bermuda late friday into saturday. that was when we could see impacts from a category two or three hurricane depending on the exact strength. now, impacts along the east coast, rip tides and large swells will impact the entire eastern seaboard from the system, kasie, this is going to be an impactful storm for bermuda. remember, it's a popular tourist destination. thousands of visitors visit this area frequently. >> all right. derek van dam for us this morning. derek, thanks for that update. all right.

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his republican counterpart, j.d. vance. walz, posting on social media, quote, see you on october 1, jd and while vance has previously said he would debate walz, the ohio senator stopped short of committing to this yesterday i strongly suspect we're going to be there on october the 1st, but we're not going to do one of these fake debates, laura, where they don't actually have an audience. >> there where they don't actually set the parameters in a right way. we're going to have a good exchange of ideas. in other words, we're not going to run welcome to a fake news media garbage debate. we're going to do a real debate in a cbs agrees to it and certainly we'll do it all right. >> our panel is back. >> we're going to see this happen. do we think and does it really matter the undercard debate? >> well, i would be very excited to see it and i think, you know, governor walz has has accepted it and i think it would be i think it would be a good thing to have. i think it would be entertaining and then look, i think it'd be it'd be great to see governor walz and j.d. vance discuss ideas, but also j.d. vance defend some of

what's come out since he was selected. i mean, i wondered after you saw childless cat ladies in this in menopause, postmenopausal women and all the string of things that he said over the years was he vetted well, molly ball, i mean, this it's likely to be a relative form of strength for vance. >> i mean, he this is the kind of thing that he would typically tend to be better at, but it will be an opportunity for the democrats tried to pin him down on some of that stuff. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, i think there is certainly a feeling on the democratic side and among some republicans that vance has become something of a liability for the ticket and that becomes more important in a situation where it's now donald trump, who is the oldest candidate in history? running to be the oldest, oldest president in history. and, you know, that was a contrast that i think would have been magnified if it was vance versus harris and you had these two old candidates. but i think it vance is someone who is quite quick on his feet. walz, i know a little bit less about sort of his debating style and

his came to the, i'm mad it debate style that was reported during the vetting process along with not using a teleprompter like he's best debates so i guess we'll find out, i guess. i guess we'll find out. i think it's going to be it's very interesting, it's a very interesting contrast between these two men and i think these vice presidential debates are always revealing in part because they're not the presidential debates. so there's a little bit more latitude for the undercard candidates to both define themselves and try to define the top of the ticket joe, you know, traditionally the attack dog role so i hope it happens. >> all right. so today kamala harris is going to be joined by president biden at a public event. >> this is going to be the first time they appear together since he left the race and she became the democratic nominee they're going to appear together at an event in upper marlboro, maryland for a passing of the torch moment. this is very delicate balancing act for harris. she's obviously trying to carve out her own path and distance herself from the president on some issues like the economy despite the fact that her boss thinks the

current path is the right one. >> inflation is the president. yes. yes. yes, i told her to have a soft landing. we're going to have a soft landing. my policies are working start writing that way. okay not happy to be left out of the spotlight for too long. >> donald trump has announced he'll hold a press conference at his bedminster club following the biden-harris brad woodhouse, i actually have to say i question why it is that harris is doing this with biden. i mean, the this it feels i mean, it feels uncomfortable straight up at the outset. now, maybe it's not going to be maybe they're going to, you know, why do this if your heart well, look, i don't think it will be uncomfortable at all and remember that this event is announcing one of the seminal successes of this, of this administration, which is driving down drug prices today hhs is announcing are cms is announcing the ten drugs that they've negotiated. >> this was a 40 year effort of democrats to pass legislation

to require medicare to lower drug prices and so she's getting ready to be part of an announcement that is historic and it's an important part of the it's important part of the argument about the economy and lower prices an important part of that, but she's got to play number two with him in a world where like you weren't really want to look like number one i think i think joe biden will make this completely work for her. >> it will be completely comfortable. and i tell you who will love this scene our core base, democrats love joe biden who were concerned about him running. appreciate that he pass the torch to her. it's going to be a great thing and i'm gonna be there. he still he's still present the united states though, and she's the vice president and it's all in the stage craft, how they manage to establish that even one standing next to the president, the united states, this is the future in that, like you said, it's, you know, it's a very delicate balance look, we're going to see that again next week at the democratic national convention, where not only for the first time in our memory you have a bunch of former presidents coming up to speak, but the current sitting president of

the united states, how do you craft that in such a manner that doesn't step on the nominee and that could be challenged. in one vein, the vice president is saying, i am my own person with my own policy positions, a.i will do well and improving the economy yet she's still going to be with the sitting president who most americans do not believe is doing well on the issue at this summit. >> here, his policy has 90% support with the american people, drug stop, the drugs in donald trump has vowed to repeal it. project 2025 would repeal it, would raise prices on on seniors. >> and here's the other reality is that donald trump is going to do a press conference right afterwards. so you know, if he wanted to let whatever if this is awkward you know, he's going to stamp on it like look, i think one thing that kamala harris still needs to do in this campaign, according to a lot of polls is just convince voters that she is ready to be president, that she is ready to lead that despite all of her qualifications voters still are

not completely convinced that they can see her in that office being the person in charge. >> so events like this help remind people of her qualifications, the fact that she's been vice president that may not be entirely a negative for her, although it does tie her to the unpopular policies of this administration. another thing that a lot of democrats have found in polls is that when you ask about the policies without joe biden's name attached to them, they are much more popular and we've seen joe biden's approval rating has gone up since he decided not to be a candidate any longer. so it is possible that a lot of the unpopularity around this stuff was just about biden people's disapproval of his choice to run for reelection. people's concerns about his age and his capabilities. now that he's not the candidate, i think there is a hope that she can sell these policies in a new way to brad's point and make them more appealing to voters who are more open to these policies when they're not biden policies. >> all right. molly ball. thank you so much for joining us this morning. i really appreciate

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months ago, at least 10,000 people are also considered missing ceasefire talks are set to resume in qatar today columbia university's president minouche shafik resigning after months of backlash over her handling of pro-palestinian demonstrations on campus. she is the third leader of an ivy league university to resign following appearances before congress over anti-semitism on college campuses a man suing disney for the wrongful death of his wife is facing a new legal challenge. his wife had a reaction to severe food allergies at disneyworld restaurant and she died. now, the company is trying to get the suit tossed because the man signed up for a one-month trial of disney plus five years ago oh elliot williams, can they do this like what it's, it's buried in the fine print that they'd that anybody coup sued any disney property would have to submit to arbitration. now,

that's absurd. you hear about reading the fine per, but this stretches the limits of fine print. and i think a judge will probably throw that that poor. >> so basically they're saying because he agreed to the terms of use of disney plus he waived his right to sue disney, but disney plus contract says that per any dispute you have with any disney property, you have to go to arbitration. now that's ridiculous. that's like saying, if you choke on a quinoa salad at whole foods, that you can't sue the water she didn't post because they're owned by the same parent company that makes no sense whatsoever. but we in our lives sign contracts all the time with arbitration provisions and things that we didn't negotiate. think about, anytime you go to a baseball game, all the rights you waive. that are on the back of that ticket. and so there's a lesson here for all of us. read the fine print. if you can, but some sometimes you're really, it's basically a situation where it's like the fine print basically says you can't participate. >> it's rejected even even as a lawyer it is very quick. >> did say, oh, it's fine, it's fine. it's fine. it'll

get the workout. know this is stretching the limits of rights and fine print beyond what is rational at all. and i think a smart judge will probably cut it out, right fingers crossed all right. >> let's turn back now to the 2024 campaign i'm a republican presidential hopeful nikki haley said that former president trump needs to make a serious shift and quote, quit whining about vice president kamala harris and trump must have listened because now he's whining about nikki haley despite warnings from several of his allies to stick to policy, donald trump once again veering into personal attacks against kamala harris at that campaign rally yesterday, as he continues to struggle with how to take on his new opponent. our next guest puts it this way, quote biden's abrupt departure, deeply unsettled, trump his entire campaign was built well to defeat biden, trump survived an assassination attempt, then met a rapturous reception at the republican national convention and concluded that the race was won. and it was until biden

stepped aside and harris stepped up. trump, enraged and rattled, is reverting to his feral ways and joining our panel now is peter wiener. he is former speechwriter for george w bush. now contributing writer for the atlantic and the new york times, peter, i'm so grateful to have you on the program. >> they've said here, i think the most evocative piece of this story that you have describes who trump is now, you say this, the rise of harris instantly cash trump in a new light. >> he formerly seemed more ominous and threatening which whatever its political drawbacks signaled strength now he seems not just old, but low-energy stale, even pathetic he has become the political version of fat elvis yeah, brad is trying to keep it together for a certain generation. they remember fat, fat elvis, there was something when biden dropped out and harris got in in the blink of an eye that the whole lighting and landscape of this campaign changed. and trump's show, which has been getting old it seemed to have crossed a threshold of a certain kind, even some of his allies making kelly joe rogan are saying, saying the same

thing. they're saying he's boring. >> and that's one line of criticism. for donald trump, that will allow that'll drive him drive him crazy. well, and isn't boring in many ways kind of a political death sentence for donald trump. >> it is for donald trump. i mean, it's not good for anybody, but particularly for him. and i'd say in part, it's because of his psychology the central thing to understand about donald trump, and i thought this, even in early 20 16, was i use psychologically unwell, man, he's he's a broken person union narcissistic personality disorder, and people of that psychology there front lines of attack, certain things that happened to them there really do rattle them that knock them off stride and there are several things for trump. one of them is mockery another is the sense that he might, he might the a loser. and i think once harris gotten in the race and eliminated the deficit, he got so rattled by that that he's never gotten on not on track again, it's campaign can get him there all right.

>> question for you let's stay on fat elvis sort of moment and well, but only because when you talk about narcissism and so on, was there ever actually a jailhouse rock trump, or a blue hawaii trump like this is sort of what trump has been all along. >> what was the light trump? >> continue well, it's a good question for a lot of americans know, but for some americans, yes. i mean, obviously with the base of the republican party, he has been now rock star witnesses of act that he lost in 2020, and they brought him back where we're most candidates would have been exit the state, so there are two groups. think about one is the base of his party which is still with him, but it's beginning to shake a little. but the swing voters who are going to decide this election, who voted for him 2016 in left him in 2020. that's the group that he has to get. and when you become not only, fat elvis version, boring, but also

psychotic, that is just pushing them away. and we're seeing that in in the polls very interesting speaking of that word that was, that was just used at the end of that sentence. >> there independent presidential candidate rfk jr. has been hedging his bets and doing some job haunting on the side. sources tell cnn kennedy's campaign reached out to kamala harris team last week to try to arrange a meeting about a possible role in a harris administration. if rfk junior were to drop out of the race, and endorse her the kennedy camp confirms that no meeting between those two candidates has taken place. weeks earlier, kennedy and donald trump met in person during the republican national convention. they discussed a potential role for kennedy in the trump administration in exchange for an endorsement. funny, her suddenly being ahead and trump this switch of trump from a sure winner to a possible loser is also impacted rfk junior. i wonder what he's really interested in. the latest polls show kennedy and independent with roughly 7% of the vote. one of his campaign officials tells cnn he is open to dropping out. if he believes

he can serve the country in a better way. i mean, this is extraordinarily transparent here from a guy who's most recent claim to fame in was acknowledging that he picked up a bear cub that was roadkill and put it in central park and like was going to put it in his freezer, which apparently he has a freezer of roadkill and put his mouth and the hand of this bear. i mean, like what the what i don't leave donald trump would put rfk junior in his cabinet. i can guarantee the kamala harris is talking about rfk junior in this case, it's just stunning. >> look at that, look at that this is so he had to come clean with this because the new yorker obtained this photograph so the fact that they obtained this photograph means that he took this photograph and you send it to somebody that would then go on i'm to send it to the new yorker. >> i mean, look like maybe you wouldn't appoint him to a position, but if you can get the investment, you get 7% nationally. if you can shave off 4% of those numbers, that, that could certainly benefit donald trump in this very close race. i also want to touch on something that peter mentioned about donald trump being

psychotic. the race is closed for a reason. there are some swing voters who are still on the fence, who is still open-minded to voting for the former i'm president. and so whatever delusions of grandeur one may have about donald trump personally speaking, there are a lot of people out there who still believe the guise of more effective leader on a whole host of very important issues. >> yeah, and it's a very, very close race. i'm glad i'm glad that you raised that shermichael i will say also on this rfk question, and brad, this may be fear about peter ryan if you want to, but the third party candidates did derail hillary clinton in 2016. is there a potential upside to harris doing some sort of deal with kennedy and getting him out of the race or is she better off if he stays in? >> i think a lot of the polling recently has shown that he's drawing more from trump than he is drawing from harris. also, a lot of people had parked their votes in some of these third-party candidates, particularly in him because of his name recognition is family's history and that has really started to fall. >> now they have another democrat announced they had

somebody else to go two yeah. i'd say two things. >> first year. your point is it's obviously legitimate want i mean, this is to some extent are toss-up race, but you can still be psychotic. >> and in the race that's actually the problem which because in america, man who is so psychologically on well-made win the presidency that underscores the problem in terms of rfk junior, you think he's almost the only person in american life that can make jd nancy, look partially normal. he's a free and we see that in so many ways from the vaccine crusade that he did, which really caused kids the lawfare kids lives that he has been on. and now this this latest thing with the bear cub, there's something sad about him sort of shopping himself around knocking on doors, whether it's harris or trump, and basically no one is letting him and so he's he's dropping. >> and harris does better with him in the race that nods, well, i can't imagine she give them any kind of cabinet position in advance. shermichael, how do you feel free to respond i just think there is a better way to

articulate ones differences from a candidate without insulting them. >> 80 million people bought for the former president. and when they listened to rhetoric like that, it not only enrages them, but it also excites them, even folks in the middle who may say, you know, i don't agree with the former the president. but can you not articulate a better version of your differences from him policy-wise instead of attacking him because that will be viewed by many as an attack against people who support him, who i don't believe or crazy and psychotic. >> yeah, i'd say a couple of things aren't saying the people are crazy, psychotic. i'm saying donald trump is, i think that's self-evident. if you've seen how he's how he's acted seconds i've talked to psychologists don't really have to be a psychologist. if there is smoke coming out of my car and there's oil that's spilling. i don't have to be a mechanic to know that there's a problem with the car that i'm but i'm leaking oil and i'm not saying harris has to make this point i'm not on her campaign. i'm just saying as an observer and someone who has talked to psychologists and psychiatrists he's not