story rather one for far too many americans people like my dad used to live bet at night when they get losses insurance at the company he worked for stared at the ceiling literally, you all experience, you've know people have experiences wondering what in god's name happened? >> if my wife gets breast cancer or phi gets sick or my children get seriously ill. what happens? >> what god's name? how can we pay for the drugs, prescription drugs? >> i'm serious. these are just discussions you know it. we do have enough insurance three afford to medical bills lot to sell the house and got a second mortgage 30 discussions that took place in my house. and your house? >> camila, i both get it you know, it isn't just about health care it's about your dignity about your dignity about peace of mind

>> but security it's about taking care of your family. >> it's about given folks just a little bit more breathing room. that's all look i believe that health care should be a right, not a privilege in america grandma, here today to make a major announcement reference to lower lower the extraordinary high prescription drug prices before i do want to thank governor wes moore i served in the senate for 270 years i know they look forward to, but i'm a little bit older no longest time i was too young because only about 29 when i got elected too old i'll tell you one thing in between when the finest, most decent men i've ever worked with i think if i think of integrity is ben

cardin stand up the people i work with by their integrity he does what he says and says what he does look, folks also, do that varga the longest time she tried to pretend to be she was irish barragan she's a great friend and she's one of a great leaders in this country where are you stand up i've never once gone this man asked for help and i haven't gotten not one single time. thank you thank and you're assumed to be senator these are jobs me, the

county executive i was a kid, i was a county official. expect you can solve every problem. you don't have the authority to duty, you don't have the money but i hope i'm looking forward. i told her i campaign for against ridge ever help the most law and members martin as thracian aviv ever sara hhs works for sale administrators here today let me say something well, we're all thinking about my good friend and he is a really good friend for a long time. steny hoyer he represents the western shore of delaware you all think we're kid we fight all the time. i wish him a speedy recovery. understand. he's doing well this is a

fight. >> all of us been fighting for a long time, taking on big pharma we pay more for prescription drugs. it's not hyperbole. we pay more than any advanced nation in the world i could take you out an air force one and you have prescription from a drug company in america and fly you to toronto, canada, flight to paris, france, hide a belt probably anywhere around the world and get you the same prescription so for the same company, for 40, 60% less than we pay for it here too many americans can't afford the drugs they badly need for life and death so they skip doses, cut fills in half for growth prescriptions entirely because the prediction judge who's totally unaffordable a woman i met a nurse you just met it's

trade $9,000. i mean, assuming $900 a month well, guess what, man who pay nowhere near that 9,000. 9,000. she's going to pay guess what, began in january every single prescription drugs she has including god forbid, if she leaves us really expensive oh, gregory cancer drug maxim. she ever asked to pay $2,000 pier's that's right. john, in the senate, i worked charles to give medicare the power to negotiate lower drug prices just like the department of veterans affair. >> in fact reminded by staff today one of the first major bills i worked on was in 1973 i co-sponsored legislation led by senator frank church let go, let that medicare negotiate the cost of drugs. 1973, this twice been going on now, the va pays

as they, should 50% less than medicare because va can negotiate the prices for years big pharma block medicare from negotiating lower drug prices. >> the cost branch, they're able to maintain the exorbitant price increases in profits on call for look but this time we finally beat big pharma and i might add no help. republic, not a single republican voted for this bill, period, not won the entire congress reason i say that is not to make a political point about them if they've gotten their lesson, but guess what? they wanted the guy we're running against what's his name donald dump for? donald hey want. to get

rid of this? what we passed their friday to get rid of what we've just passed. know i'm sure is no health republicans passed the inflation reduction act thanks to the tie breaking vote, a common-law made it possible really matters for example, take the insulin needed to treat diabetes guy than a dentist in 100 years ago, didn't put a patent because he wanted to be available for everybody. >> he didn't even patent it well guess, you know how much it costs those companies to make that insulin $10.10 i the god's truth $10. number one. number two, to package it and ship it you might get it up to $13 but there were charging up to 400 bucks a month for but now they can charge more than $35 a month so big oh 030, $5 a

month. these guys, so making enormous profits, that's three times with a costume, the making you initialization capital costs for everyone who need it, that insulin nominee even know anybody needs instance for diabetes, raise your hand okay. well, guess what next three months we got here. i'm not leaving here in common than when she's president going to make sure if we don't get it done everybody should qualify for that $35 every american i made it well, that's not all the same law i wrote. >> we wrote me started in january of this year every senior in the united states of america, no matter what their cost of drugs and like i said, somebody has cancer drugs or 12,000 bucks a year every

single penny they spend, they'd never have to spend more than $2,000 a year for all we're going to fight the next year everyone qualifies for that as well. look all together, our reforms not only saved lives, there's the point and people aren't talking about it saves the taxpayers billions of dollars what we've done so far we'll save the taxpayers over the next ten years, 160 billion laura did that because they don't have to pay the fray exorbitant price that medicare had to pay before so we're going to pay $35 or 400 bucks. folks savings are only going to increase for american taxpayers because it matters. look, but that's not all the inflation reduction act did last summer i announced

under that law, medicare is going to select, as always, pass a law ten drugs a year, going up to 22, we get every single drug every year drugs treat from everything from heart failure blood clots, kidney disease, arthritis, blood cancer, more today. i'm proud to announce and medicare is reached agreement with all manufacturers on all ten drugs selected in the first round of negotiations are prices for all ten drugs were gone effect in january of 2026 not this january next january negotiations cut the price. these ten drugs for judy and others who are medicare nearly 40, 80% depending on which drug it is. let me give you one example non-insulin diabetes drugs cost $530 a month. some of you may know that guess what it's now only going to cost $115 by the way. he's due to

pricing that attack drugs with kimberly mean one $1.5 billion less out-of-pocket for patients to the drug companies prophase. >> for many the 9 million seniors who take these drug. >> that's not all. we're also saving the american taxpayer because of the new changes 6 billion a year. because medicare won't have to pay out debris. match 6 billion a year what we could do that for childcare and health care and so much more. we're just getting started. under the law, i signed medicare can negotiate lower prices for another 15 drugs next year, 15, the following and 20 after that until every drug has covered the law now this is another really big deal. >> it means that americans could save more money and for

life-saving medications they need and deserve but bringing peace of mind it's hard to explain kamala, are going to keep fighting a lower the precision across for everyone, not just seniors. is a fight that we have to continue but guess what? surprise, surprise. big pharma didn't want this to happen at all the pharmaceutical industry. last year spent four $400 million lobbying the congress to stop this 4, million worked pretty well, they didn't get one republican voted for against them. they all voted for him public and allies stuck with him and the ability of the federal government go shade lower drug prices was tried to be stopped the common line on israel, we're going to keep standing up for big pharma. i fought too hard to yield now

not backing down you get this. >> you may have heard about the maga republican project 2025 plan they want to repeal medicare's power to negotiate drug prices but big pharma back to charge, remember they want let me tell you what our project 2025 is beat the hell out of him jj redick 25%, judge, causal, the captain, 2000 and no matter how expensive they are in summer expenses, 12 a year, 12,000 a month, i should say kamala harris and democrats in congress will make sure at $2,000 cap covers everyone not just seniors as well on cross. that's 35 for everyone, not

just seniors. are project 25 a law protecting her golf for you, your families, instead of andy big pharma, a big blank check and look the process this is what we don't talk enough about in the process we're going to save the taxpayer budget is going to be reduced by hundreds of billions of dollars. >> hear me, hundreds of billions of dollars since the first year. the first thing we passed his $160 billion less that the government's going to have to pay out to farm. guess what? >> the bay out for education, for healthcare capacity. >> so much more, or it can just simply reduce the deficit he has exploded folks that's what i call a when folks, there's more my predecessor and his maga friends in congress tried to repeal the affordable care act, which is different obamacare it tried to repeal it

50 times we stopped them along the way. i made the affordable care act even stronger. it's likely million more americans and fridges. he judiciary there's never 40 million maga republicans in congress don't want to cut medicare that they want to cut medicare and social security. why they want to give another here's what they're proposing. just you know, what? >> are proposing another $5 trillion tax cut for the mega wealthy by the way this guy been running against when he was president, he gave a $2 trillion tax cut to super-wealthy. >> you know what that was? he generate the largest deficit any president has in american history i love is the public is talking about cutting spending you know, we have 1,000 billionaires in america know what their average tax they pay

is. 8.2% editors to build say that you got to pay a minimum of 25%. know what that would raise? $500 billion over the next ten years magill, we could do with that magen, the tax cut for ordinary people for common lipid got already we're going to protect medicare and social security, making sure the wealthy pay their fair share by the way. i've been making the tax code fair look. >> in addition, we're also announced steps to crack down an managed to practice in health care how many of you know we've been going after these called junk fees? john health insurance plans as, as once a look affordable. for you to take the cover off, you find out there's a number of hidden costs were going after them and trying to get rid of them we're also cracking down on surprise medical billing. >> for example when a

friendship goes in the hospital for surgery if it turns out his anesthesiologist is not in his network you could get a surprise bill for another thousand dollars what we're stopping that to protect and care we protected 1 million americans every month from unexpected medical bills or work in a bad use of medical debt on credit reporting years ago i had to craniotomy because that andrews my bill if i didn't have insurance, who is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars well, guess what? >> matters it matters whether or not if i didn't have insurance or the rest of my life, i couldn't do anything wouldn't be able to buy anything, wouldn't be able to have a credit would be now, we're going to get rid of health care cost been on your

yet to still owe puts you don't get your credits and infected i'm a chaplain was god no problem of companies making money but not by prowess, price gouging seniors and working families i grew up in a family where my dad used to say joey a job's about a lot more than a paycheck it's about your dignity it's about respect. i really mean this is what he would say hi dad was a railroad guide, never got a chance to go to college. you talk about what we needed to do for ordinary working hard work and people we changed the whole way. we look at the economy used to be his idea of trickle-down economics. even democrats accepted some democratic presidents accepted that if you're wealthy makes a lot of money or trickled down and residents why didn't notice a single penny trickled down on my dad's kitchen table guess what? now we measure everything in the following way. we build from the middle out, the bottom

up, and they do well everybody does well and any money i get to spend as president, i spent not been made in america by americans americans don't like being played for suckers. we believe we should be patient. but there should be reasonable profits, not unreasonable. well, let me close with this. >> it's all about health care. it's about lowering costs for families, about fairness, his security. it's about the dignity that people like judy, millions of americans all across the country it's exactly what we're doing there's more we can do for everyone. >> we can't give up they told me every major piece of legislation we pass to give us a strong as economy in history in the strongest economy in the world, got more to do for working people by the way everybody does better when there's more unions we're

finally get it done you can't stop now, is that people who in hell we are we're the united states of american there is nothing nothing beyond our capacity in this country. >> we work together nothing, nothing, nothing tell you what i thank god that in the last three months, i'm president united states, i was able to finally get done when i tried to get dm when i was a young senator thank god. god. bless you all. may god protect our troops we. >> have been listening. to president joe biden, flanked by vice president kamala harris, their first joint appearance since biden exited the

presidential race last month this is a white house event that felt like a campaign rally. biden's biggest applause lines coming when he talked about harris saying, quote, she's going to make one hell of a president and also when he attacked former president donald trump, his one-time rival for the white house, mocking his name, calling him donald dump, and then saying, quote, let me tell you what our project 2025 is. beat the hell out of them. >> yeah, it's certainly felt it had some campaign rally effects to it for sure, an interesting to watch this dynamic play out as we've seen, vice president kamala harris on the road for her own campaign, the center of the attention, the center of the stage back to being vice president serving under president biden for his the remainder of his term. again, this is the first time we're seeing them together since he exited the race. i want to go now to cnn's mj lee, who's in maryland with more on how the white house is touting this as a winning message for harris and her bid

for president mj for president biden's legacy as well i can definitely could confirm what you guys were just saying about i very much of a campaign rally even though it isn't official white house event on stage for the first time, the word tired lame joe biden, he walked side vice president kamala harris, who's now the democratic nominee for president. >> and actually walk applause line of the entire event was when actually vice president harris into a president biden. i've heard we of course, for president biden describing to the crowd he's vice president as making one hell of a president someday now, the topic of this event, as you mentioned very politically the idea of lowering the price

important for the senior and elderly community of group that actually present biden tends to do well with. >> and i think this the bag gave us, a pretty good review oh, wow. >> vice president is going to try to jog the issue of the economy, but she is the face of the biden/harris administration and its record. but at the same time, she used i have to take and policy prescriptions that will help her at tel a compelling economic story and a message. and to that end, we have course heard her today in her remarks saying that people should have to choose whether to ration out there medication because medication is so expensive we are going to see her continuing on that theme tomorrow with an event that is going to talk about a federal ban on price gouging that is aimed at lowering grocery prices of course, as we've talked about so much, that is such a big part of the psychology for a lot of americans when they are thinking about whether the economy is doing better for

them yeah, the economy certainly a top issue come november mj lee live in maryland. thank you so much. let's discuss with our panel of experts, we have cnn political director david chalian with us along with the folks that have been patiently waiting alongside as watching the speech. david, as kamala harris was introducing president biden, choose a effusively in her praise, there was about a minute hong ovation of folks clapping for him. she said, few leaders have done more on so many issues. there was a thank you, joe chant and then she said, i am eternally grateful. it is a great honor to introduce you in extraordinary human being, obviously being very differential to the president i am curious though, how do you expect her campaign is going to use him moving forward as we get closer to election day. >> i think this is just a little appetizer, a little taste of what we're going to see monday night in chicago at the democratic national convention, which will be biden appreciation night, if you will, at the convention and remember, when biden stepped off the ticket and bowed out of the race on july 21 kamala

harris was scheduled and continued with their scheduled to be in wisconsin. and she did a couple of other stops as she was coalescing the party render and the whole first portion of her remarks was a complete thank you. to joe biden. so this deference to him, this thanking him isn't new. she she was making sure that they were seen as in lockstep and then of course, you named her own running mate. and what have you. so what you see in this, they did appear jointly at joint base andrews a couple of weeks ago with the hostage release in their official capacity. but this is their first sort of public speaking event together and she wants to make sure that there's no separation no no daylight between them. when she needs to separate from him on a specific policy or whatever, she will. >> but what she wants to do and what she sees to her own political benefit is to be very thankful to him for the work. >> this is what you saw there. okay? i think in that one display, we saw why democrats are so thrilled that joe biden is not their candidate anymore

just from his performance and his ability to complete thoughts and it was a fine i'm not suggesting he had a meltdown. i'm just saying, you see the 81-year-old man that they are relieved is no longer their standard bearer for the election going forward for the future but you also see the appreciation they have for really popular policies such as lowering prescription drugs, something democrats have been talking about on the campaign trail for years. and now he got it done. so there's the real appreciation and the real satisfaction that they don't need to be rallying around him for this campaign season and kate it out to you. david mentioned the prescription drugs. look every democrat we have on the show are that i interview somehow finds a way to talk about insulin caps. it's something that clearly does very well with voters, something that they're very proud of. and this was an event as mj was talking about that they feel like sets the vice president on really well in her campaign, but also is good for president biden's legacy as david just noted, he was able to get something done. they've been talking about for a long

time. >> do you see this as calls continue for her to have more policy to explain more about what she's going to do. >> do you see them leaning more in two issues like this? this seems like something they werer really want to be talking about yeah, i do for two reasons. >> one, because it is a tangible and has a tangible impact on people's lives. you can explain it to people they understand, they say, okay, making this drug that i need less expensive, that helps me, that helps as i'm my family is planning our family budget that's important. so having a really tangible accomplishment like that is a great thing to be able to talk about. but then secondly, it also sets up this broader narrative which you heard her lean into in her introduction and then also president biden very much leaned into and his remarks it sets up this broader narrative where big special interests, big pharma is the foil and it tells you who kamala harris is fighting on behalf of. she's fighting on behalf of you. she's fighting against the big moneyed special interests on

your behalf. so it helps sort of set this broader narrative that will be i would imagine, will continue to be a really powerful one for her and the duration of this campaign. and it's also a great contrast for the democrats in their messaging against trump, because then they also get to say and look who donald trump's fighting for. he's fighting for billionaires, he's fighting for tax cuts for the richest people in his country is fighting for himself. he's not fighting for you. this issue as insulin cap issue, is it's a terrific issue for both those reasons. >> jasmine expanding on something that david alluded to and that is the vice president seeking to differentiate herself from president biden on key specific issues or what have you been hearing from folks about what those issues might be where she sees ground and opportunity separate herself. >> yeah. well, one thing that i've heard from harris allies is that they know that there are two policy places that republicans will hit them on. >> that is immigration and that as the economy. and so i think that's why you're going to see her tomorrow. well, in north

carolina, lay out how she views at least part of her economic policy going forward, we're going to hear her talking about price gouging now this is something that president biden has talked about. wild in office is something that he focused on, say, the union he's talked about since then, but it just did not resonate in the way that harris allies are hoping that it resonates when she talks about it tomorrow. she's going to talk about rent stabilization. she's going to talk about other parts of the care economy. i'm sure we're going to hear her also talking some lowering health care prices, that same thing that we heard her safe from today. but these are all things that are not necessarily very different than what president biden has put in place in his last three years, but they're hoping that people here at differently from her. they're hoping that they feel it or hear it at least more empathetically. then we heard from president biden because at the end of the day, they recognize that people don't necessarily know how the vice president would govern in office. and there's something that they are actively trying to combat by putting out positive futuristic looking messages, not just to contrast former president trump,

although i think when you see her really staying on message, reading off the teleprompter, hoping to look presidential tomorrow versus what we saw for president trump yesterday. that contrast will be visible. they believe, but also just making a message that people can understand, that people can hear and try to see playing out in their own lives. >> and aaron, all of this happening as republicans in the trump campaign want absolutely to tie the vice president to biden's policies and the ones that have been unpopular, the fact that the majority of americans see former president trump is better equipped to handle the economy than they did. president biden that. they don't think the economy is working for them. and so they're obviously trying to keep that narrative in play and bolster it while their trying, as we've noted today, she's trying to separate where she can, but we're going to keep seeing them together like this. >> yeah. it's joe biden begins this legacy tour at towards the end of his presidency. i'm curious how often they're going to put them on stage, because the visual of the two of them together is going to be good for republicans are trying to

say, you remember that time that groceries went up and that everything became more expensive and life was a little bit harder because these two were at the helm. there's still standing together hand in hand give them that visual of the two of them together. and republicans can run with that. donald trump has an opportunity to talk about the economy here, because the tax cuts and jobs act is set to expire. some of it to expire in sunset in 2025. there was going to be tax policy coming up in this in this it's after this election cycle, no matter what matter who wins, no matter you wouldn't have to i'm going to have to face the burden of redoing the tax code in the united states. i was on the hill in 2017 and worked through the tax cuts and jobs act. i can tell you that is a hard process to do tax policy and so for them, he can stand there now and be like, you remember, when we doubled the child tax credit, you remember when the government furman said you keep more of your own paycheck. do you remember when we lower taxes for the american people so that you could afford my groceries, it chips didn't feel like the luxury item that you feel like now, he can talk about that and he could say, i did it before and in 2025, we can do it again and we can add to it by putting on no tip on

tax or no tax on tips and no tax on social security benefits right? he has that message right there and it's tangible hit them with it and use the visual. the two of them together, tie this all economically together. >> it'll be interesting to see how they might approach that moving forward, erin jasmine, kate, david, appreciate the conversation. thanks for being with us. still to come on. cnn news central authorities have charged several people in connection to friends, star matthew perry's death. we have details, we're learning straight ahead i got it. >> i got discover performance, in rare form he got it but she's delayed get offers on selective support models and the golden opportunity sales event start your day with nature me the number one pharmacist recommended vitamin supplement brand do picks it

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thing to remember is this. they have their forces concentrated right in this area in the eastern part and also in this part right here in the northeastern part of the bringing border area. but they haven't moved their forces here. and there certainly relying on a country like belarus, russia's ally to also protect this area. and of course, the belarusian forces are nowhere near the standard of the russian forces. sure. >> so when we zoom into that blue area where the ukrainian ukrainians are in control right now. >> what strategic value does that have for ukraine? so this is one of the key things right here there are several, several aspects to this it's one of them is there's a pipeline, gas pipeline that runs through this way and then there's also a bunch of railroads that runner along approximately like this. and there are several others right here. but if the ukrainians cut off the railroads that will prevent a lot of logistical support for the russian forces in all of these areas right here. if they cut the gas pipeline, that also prevents about 50% and of

russia as gas exports from reaching customers in europe. so there are economic reasons, as well as military reasons to go into this area. and to actually make something out of it. because if they do that, then it gives the ukrainians more leverage, the more territory they get, the more leverage they have for any potential peace negotiations or some kind of armistice of that type of president zelenskyy. >> in the last few hours, talked about setting up an operations base in this territory to offer essentially services to the people in the region. >> how does ukraine establish, how do they hold on to that too? >> well, that's a great question because what's interesting about the ukrainian effort is that they are actually setting up what amounts to a military government in sudan and zelenskyy announced just a few hours ago that the ukrainians have actually captured this town and now it's a regional area, basically a county seat and now if they do anything here, what they can do is they can control the year and if

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center for climate reporting, a british organization now he says, trump's rejection of project 2025 it's just politics and vote explained. he's creating a so-called shadow agency, multiple shadow agencies getting regulations, memos and executive orders ready for action on the first day of a trump presidency. he also believes an expanding presidential hours and that the president has the authority to use the military to maintain law and order. take a listen to how he talks about why trump is publicly trying to separate himself from project 2025. >> so we've got about 350 different documents that are regulations and things of that nature that we're planning for the next year, next administration, and then you may say, okay all right dhs, we want to have the largest deportation. what are your actual memos as secretary sends

out? >> to do it? >> like there's an executive order regulations secretarial memos. >> yeah. those are the types of things that need to be thought through. you're not you're not having to scramble to do that later on. we were always going off of if donald trump was head of this agency, what would he do with it? what does he said? and then what do we know from the first term and that's how we've been approaching. he's very supportive what we do know that we haven't all manner of things that we do that's even unrelated to project 2025. so i see what he's doing is just very, very conscious distancing himself from my brand. >> and you're not going to publish those know take a strike. yeah very, very close. hold vote also talked about wanting to make sure america is a christian nation and mass deportation is needed in order

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