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arrested while visiting her family. and charged with treason. thank you so much for joining us. ac360 starts right now tonight on 360, the former president says he's entitled to attack his opponent personally and much, much more at a press conference. >> it was supposed to be about the economy. also tonight, nearly a month since bowing out of the race, president biden and vice president harris made their first joint appearance, will it be their last? and later details in the multiple drug arrest made in connection with the death of friends star matthew perry good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight with what was supposed to be a press conference on president trump's economic policy. take a look at bedminster, his golf clubs, just a few minutes before the former president started. those boxes of cereal, eggs but the groceries were supposed to be the props that he would talk about what she did, but only in passing and only toward the very end of his very long opening remarks, a little more than 45 minutes long, 45

minutes about taxes, inflation, and his desire to drill more oil. but he also ramble about stuff he brings up a lot like windmills, killing birds birds, and trucks with apartments in them. and ms 13 gang members carving of victims with knives and viktor orban's specifically trump's claim that orban said that our enemies fear him, or the former president said he preferred the word respected. anyway, there were a lot of other detours, many of which you've heard before. he also made quite a few factually false statements. and again, painted an apocalyptic picture of the country. one point saying, we're a failing nation, that he took questions and the digressions continued. here's what cnn's along your treene asked him, followed by some of his answer, i say some because we had to edit it because it's actual answer went on for ten minutes and it covered a lot of his off told tales many of your allies who want you to win in november, say your current strategy isn't working, that you need to stop with the personal attacks on kamala

harris and deliver a more disciplined message do you agree? i think i'm entitled to personal attacks. i don't have a lot of respect for i don't have a lot of respect for her intelligence. and i think she'll be a terrible precedent. what's the last name of kamala nobody knew it's harris nobody knew the last name. i don't even use it because nobody knows who i'm talking about. i did nothing wrong. >> i have crooked judges, have cricket prosecutors it's all a rigged deal, just like fani, f-a-n-i fani with her boyfriend, but with hillary she was subpoenaed by congress to give everything she's got and she burned it she acid wash bleachbit, they call it she totally scrubbed it. and yet hillary clinton when it came time to make a decision, i said, i don't want to put the wife of the president of the

united states in prison. i want the country great to come together and to be unified and here it is a few years later. and these people say, let's put him why? because i challenge an election, because i want to challenge an election or some other reason it's really disgraceful thing so that was his answer to that one question. >> i starting us off tonight, cnn political commentator scott jennings and alyssa farah griffin, also michael nutter, amir, former mayor democratic mayor of philadelphia. alyssa, i mean, you have sat through and student through a lot of trump talks does it just seem like he's tired because we've heard a lot of this before, or does he seem actually tired to you? >> i've been saying this since the outset of this election, donald trump is not the donald trump of 2016. he seemed slowed down. he seems meandering. he seems low energy and he really yes, struggling to make a

point. there were brief moments where he got on message in this press conference and starts talking about grocery prices and sort of the economic message he was there to deliver. but you'd quickly lose his train of thought and kind of end up on any sort of tangent like dead birds by windmills he is somebody who is not performing at the caliber that he once was and you know what that might have worked when he's up against joe biden. the contrast did make him appear at times stronger and more vibrant. it's not working against kamala harris, who is the younger candidate and who's the one with more energy scott, it does seem like the people around the former president, i mean, they give him props, they you know, they're setting him bob to deliver the policy stuff that you and other republicans say that they want to hear from him. >> and yet he goes on for 45 minutes were you happy with this? >> well, i was happy with the impulse to want to talk about inflation and the economy and to pre-but whatever kamala harris is going to do tomorrow,

which appears to me to be pretty radical, actually price controls and price fixing and so on. so the impulse was correct. he did talk about it for a little bit of the time. that was correct. >> but when you dilute it with everything else and you get off message and you just put so much other stuff in the basket. >> it kinda covers it up. and so ultimately, he's he's the only one who can make the decision to get focused and stay focused and stay on it with her and advisers knew advisers old. it doesn't really matter. it's really on his shoulders because he's the star of the show. and when he talks, people listen and some of what they heard today was great and absolutely correct. and inflation is bad and some of what they heard today was way off the beaten path and he's going to have to decide how comfortable he is doing it that way for the rest of the election. i mean, there's an audience for it. i am not it i think there's more of an audience for discussion of how kamala harris would be as been

terrible on inflation would be even worse if she is the tooth's are plans i mean, the foreign president course, again, mispronounce vice president harris's name, which is obviously part of what he he often does, particularly with black women who he doesn't like what did you take away from what you saw today? well, i mean, this is the same distracted donald trump. he can't stay focus. he can stay on message. this is a campaign of gripe and grievance and that's the tour that's what he knows. he's a performer and he is performing he's just going to complain there's entire campaign about all manner of things. he cannot talk about. trying to run the country because he doesn't know how to run the country he does know how to run his mouth and so they go, scott said god bless you it is on him he's the candidate it doesn't matter to him what his advisers say

because of course, he told us back in 2016, he has a big brain and he's smarter than everyone else. so we'll see how that works out. but the personal attacks where bills and birds evs vehicles yeah. i mean, all of this stuff he donald trump knows that he is now losing to vice president harris and that is driving him crazy. >> you've mentioned the windmill thing. i just want to play. what again, he said because this is sort of we've heard this before and it makes no more sense than it did the first time we heard it years ago you got windmills all over the place and you have birds. you want to see a bird cemetery, just go under a windmill. you see thousands of birds dead the bald eagle, if you kill an eagle, they put you in jail for years and yet these windmills not come out like nothing and nothing happens to the people savior of the birds,

donald trump. i mean, it's up there with the hannibal lecter rants, which i don't think anyone can really wrap their head around what he is trying to say when he talks about it. but listen, we all say, you know, if the right advisers get around him, if he stands on a disciplined message, he's going to be able to win this thing, but this is going let me so many flashbacks to 2022 covid, where he would insist on giving press conferences. we would give him facts, we would prepare him with materials in the message he wanted to deliver in day after day, he would fail to stay on the script and he would frankly se incredibly damaging and dangerous things. he's also by the way, i just think it's important we know in this moment because where we are he's also starting to sow doubt in the election itself. he's complaining about mail-in voting. he's talking about this coup of kamala harris now being the nominee, it really feels like late summer of 2020 when he started to institute language into his public speeches, that would later be used to undercut the results of the election and to try to say that it was stolen and i think he's doing that again.

>> scott, do you think bringing he's brought in corey lewandowski back from the days of 2016. do you think that's i'm going to make a difference? they may make him feel more comfortable maybe they brought in a bunch of people today and some good people and some smart operatives. >> i think it's a big campaign. they will put all those people to work and it'll, it'll be fine. but again, it's on him. it's on his shoulders. i mean, the trajectory of this campaign, he hasn't really lost any ground to harris. she's gained ground did we lost scott there for a second alyssa, i mean, you know, unicorn erlinda ascii. >> do doesn't make a difference. >> know when, if anything, i think the harris-walz campaign would say that's an adviser rocha with him and having back listen korea, somebody who had to leave the 2016 campaign because of scandal, he is somebody who is a loyalist to trump but there is not a suburban woman in a swing district who is going to be moved by the messaging and the

presence that corey lewandowsky is going to advise him to give. there's also a bit of a civil war from what i understand within trump world right now, we're some folks it's wanted kellyanne conway back in somebody who does have a long history in messaging and who has been able in the past to have a softer touch and how you talk about issues. but some folks don't want her back in there. it's really in this sort of crisis mode because they're not at running the race. they thought they were going to be against joe biden. they got to confident and on top of that, they have a candidate who's is undisciplined and ever, but also just slower and lower energy than he was before. >> mirror, not just in terms of pennsylvania, which is obviously incredibly important what do you think harris and walz need to do? >> well, keep doing much of what they are doing. i mean, when you raise $100 million in 24 hours, when then when the vice president became the prime candidate 36 million million in

24 hours after the governor winner was picked to be her running mate the enthusiasm that we see in pennsylvania on the streets of philadelphia and many other cities across the commonwealth. recent polling seems indicate that vice president harris now is leading. donald trump in a pennsylvania. the combination of the vice president and the gun governor that is a winning combination. and people who were thinking about trump or who are undecided, are now mobilized and energized about the harris-walz ticket. and so they'll come back, i think to pennsylvania more than a few times. but the enthusiasm you can feel it on the streets we're going to get quick break for what he's got yeah. i would he. >> has them for what she hasn't for this ticket and returning to the country, what

but sanity from who from the current administration, the current biden-harris that's what no one wants to go back to the incentive year. there are no there are no policies. there are no policies. the results of the current administration or obeyed enthusiasm for what you keep saying in fizzy. i just for what forgot, what is the enthusiasm? i'm about inflation going down the enthusiasm about inflation going down, that unemployment is lower than wages are up, that crime is down. there are things going on and this administration is actually let me ask questions this this administration has a serious track because you heard about infrastructure oh, donald trump said he was going to do infrastructure, didn't do it. this administration did it more bipartisan pass bills than virtually any president in modern history? yes, there is enthusiasm toward maintaining our rights, making sure that donald trump never sees the white house again that project

2025, that extreme right, radical plan to take away reproductive rights, human rights, civil rights, constitutional rights. yes, there is enthusiasm about making sure that donald trump never gets into the white house and that vice president harris and governor walz are the leaders of this country that we're going to, we're going to continue this conversation. we're going to take a quick break coming up next, we'll talk about kamala harris's first joint appearance with president biden since you're placed him on the ticket and later, cnn's elle reeve visits a store and a key electoral state run by black supporters of the former president. what? say they see in him and the impact they're having on voters in their community who are you? i mean, your child less force are going towards gets you going now dodge order. >> are two totally torqued out crossover things that harry hands-free sketches slip is just stepping in there, ron i'm dreaming know the real

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bring on the good stuff. insurance when you need it with abacus i'm lauren fox on capitol hill the president, vice president made their first joint campaign appearance since he passed the torch to her. their remarks came on a day. the administration heralded a deal reached with drug companies to reduce the price medicare pays by hundreds. and in some cases thousands of dollars for ten commonly prescribed drugs president and i think it's for many, many reasons, including few leaders in our nation have done more on

so many issues, including to expand access to affordable health care like ventral folks i've been incredible partner progress. >> we've made she's going to make one hell of a president cnn's. eva mckend joins us now from raleigh, north carolina, where the vice president is going to be speaking tomorrow, struck more a little bit about what the president, vice president said today well, anderson, the event really served two purposes. they showed unity, but they also touted the wins as they see them of this administration. so many voters, or at least some voters may still be trying to catch their breath from the last couple of weeks. and what we saw from president biden it him really illustrate genuine joy at passing the torch to the vice president, but also, they

were touting all of their efforts to advance affordable health care. biden also having some sharp words for former president donald trump, take a listen he wants to make america affordable. again, your response to get a job with the guy we're running against? what's his name donald dump for? >> donald ever heard about the maga republican project 2025 plan let me tell you what our project 2025 is baked the hell out of them? anderson biden and harris also talked about lowering the cost of prescription drugs something that has really emerged as a top campaign issue for the vice president and she's speaking tomorrow in raleigh. what's the focus there this is going to be

an economic address that really centers the issue of affordable housing she has a four year plan to address affordable housing and includes $25,000 and down payment assistance actions aimed at spurring construction of new housing, tax incentives for starter homes. >> a federal and an additionally, a federal ban on price gouging. we know anderson that the cost of housing, the cost of living groceries has been one of the stubborn, persistent issues that the administration has face. the vice president in centering this really responding to the concerns of voters. so many voters that i speak to time and time again. they cite the cost of rent and the ability to buy a house as among their top issues anderson very much back now with the panel, where do you expect there to be a lot

more events with the president and the vice president or do you think this was sort of passing the torch moment that they needed to do before the convention and we're not going to see them together much on the stage. adam campaign events. what do you think? >> as i know, president biden, he's going to do whatever he is asked to do to support vice president harris, governor walz. but at the other today is better than harris is the candidate. i would anticipate that the other former democratic presidents will join us campaign trail as well. but it is always the candidate who has to set the tone and make those requests and do all the coordination. so i expect vice. i expect president biden will do everything he can to support vice president harris and whatever way she and the campaign think best alyssa from just a. political standpoint, would you expect i mean, obviously, there's an incentive

for vice president harris to set her own course and distance herself. >> and yet at the same time, try to get the benefit of any benefit that president biden can bring on the trail. do you expect them to be together? >> i suspect after his speech at the dnc, you're not going to see them appearing much together and i likely think he's going to stay largely out of the spotlight, perhaps doing some events in scranton and in the final stretch. but the reality is this the old trump world needs to do is basically say she's an extension of what voters didn't like about the biden administration. and she's left do they extreme appearing with biden will feed that narrative. i think the best thing she can do is a pure on her own with a forward looking message. biden constantly gotten his own way by wanting to get credit for policies he felt like he enacted and deserved credit force whose often looking back, we're talking about bills he passed and signed. she's had a much more forward-looking message if i were her, i would not be appearing with him after the convention and would deploy him where it may make sense, but on his own scott, you were

making the point in the previous break about you the criticizing the harris campaign saying she doesn't really have any policies that she's running on obviously tomorrow, she's going to be focusing on some ai get that argument. it's a little weekend though, isn't it? by the fact that the former president rarely speaks in depth on any policy other than saying, drill, baby, drill. there's no real meat on any of the bones that he occasionally discusses well, he did issue a platform at the republican national convention that has his agenda and his goals. and i think his policies are doing well. >> i mean he i mean, look, he's he is not the incumbent. he is the challenger. and he has said he would like to spend less money. he has said he would like to not raise taxes. he has said he would not like to do some of the same immigration policies that he had done that were reversed by joe biden. and there are real

policy differences in the campaign, or at least there were real policy differences between trump and biden. that's the thing about harris. i think she's going to try to get away with essentially no one ever really knowing how she would act and she's also going to try to get away with being disconnected from joe biden. i was glad to see them campaign together today because she's had a direct hand and just about everything he has done from immigration to inflation, which is not going down by the way, the rate of inflation has dropped somewhat, but inflation itself is still going up, but that's trump's burden. he cannot let people believe that she just dropped in here at a nowhere and has no responsibility for the last four years and that she has not been at the center of democratic policy making in washington for the last a several year, she absolutely has been and she has been far to the left on most policies. but again, it's trump's burden. no one's gonna do this for him except for trump actually think september the tenth is the most pivotal day. it'll be his best chance to make that case and stay focused on it. >> me or none of the president was asked whether vice president harris started distancing herself from him. i

just want to play what he said how much father hear like vice president harris might food for political reasons distance herself from your economic i make not going do you expect her to distance herself from his economic plan i would not expect that what i do expect that when you're a candidate for office, you do have to distinguish yourself. >> that is the part of the whole point of being a candidate. all of us have these relationships, connections we come from different political families. but when your name is on the ballot you have to make the case for for yourself in addition to obviously talking about the things that you've done, but that she was vice president she's now running for president. and so when my good friend scott talks about policies for donald trump, you don't need to have policies when you have also said you want to be a dictator on day

one. i don't think putin has many policies, right? so dictators don't think about policies. and the campaign platform that he had during the convention is very, very different lacking in substance as compared to the radical project 25. that's where you got to find all of quote, unquote donald so trump's the convicted felons policies are in project 2025. that's where you want to look. don't get distracted by what he's talking about. pay attention to what's already written. >> alyssa, do you think vice president harris obviously has not done interviews? she's received criticism from reporters and some others about that, but but from a strategic standpoint, i understand why she would not want to do that, particularly so early on. do you think she can continue? with the way she's been running or do you think she has to shift because again, this is the candidate she's going against does not go into great

policy details on anything ever he never has and it's worked for him. do you think she needs to as well? >> listen. kamala harris is going to have to start giving interviews after the convention. i think that's the hard and fast deadline, but the way that looks may not be the way that you and i would recommend you know, not necessarily doing an hour-long sit down on a news network, but gambling plane sides, sitting down with local reporters when she's traveling to different areas and swing states doing something tv appearances and different platforms. i think that's certainly helpful. i actually think it helps her ahead of the debate to start doing more interviews because you don't want a war, you don't want to be answering for the first time. why did you reverse your policies? your call for medicare for all in a debate on a debate stage, you want a chance to workshop that message in an interview type setting. but she does it's not need to be doing daily 90 minute press conferences or anything of the sort. in fact, i think as we saw with donald trump, it does more harm than good. and i just want to note, he does get away with saying things that just there's no

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and his supporters are trying to lay the groundwork as they did in 2020. it's try and challenge the election if he loses stolen nomination unconstitutional, illegal. that is how some republicans are characterizing the democratic party's switch from president joe biden to vice president kamala harris. >> this was a coup of a president of the united states from any standpoint, you're looking at, they took okay. the presidency away. >> this was fundamentally illegitimate. >> their argument voters in all those state primaries chose biden not harris to challenge republican donald trump. >> it would be wrong and i think unlawful in accordance to some of these states rules for a handful of people to go in a back room and switch it out because there they don't like the candidate any longer, but cnn contacted all 50 states and they overwhelmingly said there is no impediment to swapping harris for biden on the ballot and if the gop files a complaint in court, i expect that if any court acted in some

rogue wave at a higher court but that's a state supreme court or the u.s. >> supreme court or some federal appeals court, that someone would correct it. there really is no theory that would exclude kamala harris from appearing on the ballot. so why keep pushing the idea? well, remember in the 2020 election republicans raised unproven claims of biden votes coming from faulty voting machines undocumented immigrants, dead people, and many raged over the idea donald trump lost only because of rule changes to accommodate the pandemic. >> we do need an investigation into irregularities, fraud. we do need a way forward together, dozens of courtroom rejected those claims. >> biden's win was certified. but for many trumpers, their belief in a stolen election has never die. so some election watchers think trump is angling for another excuse. in case the vote again, does not go his way. >> we know one thing for sure,

trump never loses. and so if he's not declared the winner of 2024, as in 2020, it must be because he was treated unfairly. yet again, to return to the subject of the supreme court? yeah, maybe under some certain circumstances they might come weighing in late, but legal analysts point out when it comes to who's on the ballot, the courts have largely said let the parties decide that the valets be cast and the voters make their pick. anderson thanks very much. want to get some perspective on this now from best-selling author and former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin. so is there any legal footing for this argument that it was unconstitutional for harris to become the nominee. >> anderson, i tried to give balanced answers whenever it's possible, but it's really not possible in a circumstance like this, you know, this is a completely open and shut situation. yes, it's true that the voters voted in the democratic primaries for joe biden joe biden has withdrawn

as a candidate so the delegates who were elected in those primaries now get to pick a different candidate. they have picked kamala harris, that's how the democratic party rules work. it makes sense. there is no impediment in the democratic party to this. >> and that's the end of the story. there is no legal impediment to kamala harris being the party. the nominee in all 50 and just to be clear, i mean, the constitution, which is what the former president is referring to. he suddenly very interested in what's unconstitutional the constitution does not address the party nomination process, correct? >> know i mean, the there is a general provision in the fifth and 14th amendment that says the government has to act with due process of law law but that applies to the government's behavior. the democratic party is a private entity and in any case, there is heart, there's no argument that this is an

app. there was an absence of due process here. they had a candidate who won primaries, who's not a candidate anymore? more they have to pick someone else. they have picked someone else that is not there is no constitutional provision that would bar that under any circumstance. >> it also i mean, the democratic party has ruled like layers and layers of rules and rules and rules. all of this has been thought out actually long before this ever happened, right and, and, you know, going back to when ted kennedy challenged jimmy carter in 1980, there was a big fight about how delegates could vote at the at the convention and whether they were bound by the by the results of primaries. but the key issue to remember also is that the only person who could ever challenge this, the only person who has standing to challenge kamala

harris's nomination is joe biden because he would be the victim, but he has no interest in challenging it because he is he is now supporting kamala harris so look people can make claims and certainly donald trump has made untold thousands of legal claims both in public and in court filings that have been rejected over and over again, and no one's going to stop him from making claims. but those of us who try to inform people about the legitimacy see of the claims. this one, there's really no dispute about the democratic party gets to decide who their candidate is, and they've decided on kamala harris all right. >> jeff toobin. thanks very much. just ahead is the former president works to gain ground with black voters who overwhelming support democratic candidates in intellij reeve travels to a trump store run by a black woman to see the impact the maga movement has had on her and her community when i so

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israel. and this is cnn as recent polls show vice president harris gaining momentum in her bid for the presidency. >> they also show her winning over more support from a key voting blocs, black voters according to data this week from pew research center 77% of black voter support harris compared to 64% who backed biden in july. trump's support among black voters is unchanged at around 13%. now this comes to the former president is trying to appeal more to the black community group that has long and overwhelmingly backed democrats cnn's elle reeve spend time recently virginia at a shop selling trump merchandise that's run by a black woman every woman ought to have one of these that's one of those things that when people see one, then they want one same thing with the confederate hat. you know why? because people don't think you have the nerve to do it as

joanne price runs a trump store in christiane's berg, virginia when joe biden announced he wouldn't run for president again, was there any part of you who felt a pull to vote for parents? >> no. >> absolutely not. i will not vote for either one of them. i would not vote democratic ticket. no way. >> this is all white privilege and this is just a play. it just says this car trump's everything and it gives a barrier happiness and son that's because of the color of his skin. >> and who buys that bite people it's funny. and then when you gave it to stay trip right you take easing so experienced i really and then he said, okay, he left. >> there have and gave it back i'm? not writing a. ticket this actually happened at least once elsewhere in 2022, a woman claimed alaska police let her go without a ticket when she flashed a white privilege card instead of a driver's license?

it's humorous to us. you know, it really is this humorous to the average american here and he was trump has been working to appeal to black voters and polls showed some success when biden was still in the race, but have since gone down the trump campaign this year has made a big effort reach out to black voters. >> what do you think of their efforts? >> i think their efforts aren't succeeding tremendous light. all the things that have happened to president trump, the attack facts on him have done nothing more than strengthen black people's connection to him. because now he's someone who is the target of a struggle. and they have always been felt that they'd been target. i did prison ministries for five years. so if you're convicted felon and then somebody else is a convicted felon. there's a camaraderie there donald trump attacked kamala harris, questioning her racial identity

she's black boarding indian heritage. >> i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black he's acknowledged his commentary has provoked mixed reactions prices, just one person and not a swing voter. >> but we were curious what she made of his comments given that she's a black woman and fervent trump supporter and former local republican party chair how do you make sense of how trump talks about vice president kamala harris that he sort of suggested he doesn't understand her biracial background that first she was indian and then she was black understand it either? >> she's indian and she's to jamaican. is she black i mean, do you not think she's black? yes, she was she born here yes. yes. >> where her parents, citizens okay but we have birthright citizenship in america we call

that anchor. >> people can immigrate here and not be citizens, but have green cards and work in that's true. >> however she can claim to be black because of a jamaican father. in that's her right. >> we are melting pot because i basically have a combination in our family as well. how do you reconcile that? you have a history of blended families in your family how did you reconcile that with trump seeming to not understand how kamala harris could have a blended family herself herself. she could have a blended family. what i'm saying is is his comments about that i think he's making a point and, you know, i'm not i'm not so disturbed by that. >> but what is the point he's making? >> the point he's making simply is, is that she is not a

black black person there were some mixed views on the idea of a woman president what do you think about kamala harris kamala harris say it is and hopefully that you laid his won't get offended but be because of what happened in the garden of eden there will never be any elected woman relatives black or white they will occupy the white house. that god would ever stand behind i'm not sure america is quite ready for female leadership. >> it would be wonderful to have a female president if and when one ross's that has conservative values that are going to lead the nation in prosperity. >> did joe biden dropping out? change your view of the election at all? >> oh, it sure did i think she

is going to be worse than joe i just don't think has the experience? i think she was only chosen because she isn't woman he has been mocked, scrutinized slandered dragged into court this man is still standing any standing strong because he knows that he was chosen. he's our david and i'll reeve joins me now i'm wondering what you heard from other customers in the store. well, as much as identity politics was rebuked by the merchant, by the merchandise. there identity was still really important to the people i spoke to for example, one younger man told me that he didn't like harris because she was for city people who had office jobs. whereas trump was for blue collar people like him and how, did you read the woman who runs the store? >> i met her about six months

ago in virginia. she told me the story of wearing a confederate flags swimsuit on the beach and how so many people had come up to her. she realized she'd missed a marketing opportunity obviously, i wanted to talk to her about what she thought about harris is nomination, but she wasn't going to budge on that. and of course, polls show that she is not in the majority among black women even a black woman who is a taxi driver of this story, could not stop raving about how much she loved kamala harris reid. >> fascinating. thank you so much. appreciate it i'm talking to you coming up new details from our john miller after federal authorities charge multiple people today in the drug-related death of actor matthew perry cnn is live from chicago as democrats unite to offer their support to a new nominee and her running mate fellow cnn for complete coverage, the democratic national convention monday at seven on cnn, and streaming on

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suez, but kaitlan collins next federal authorities in los angeles today announced charges against five people connected to the death last year of actor matthew perry the french coast or died from the effects of ketamine overdose. investigators say they uncovered an underground network of dealers and suppliers when they allege are responsible for distributing the drug to parry, the defendants are two doctors, perez live in personal assistant and two others, including a woman referred to as the ketamine queen here's the u.s. attorney who brought the charges these defendants took advantage of mr. perry's addiction issues to enrich themselves. >> in the end, these defendants were more interested in profiting off mr. perry then carrying for his well-being our chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller joins us with more. >> so what more do you know about the people who were charged while to break it down on anderson, you've got kenneth, iowa. i am asa.

that's matthew perry's personal assistant. he's charged in this case as being the person who on be on paris behalf obtained the ketamine from this network of doctors, drug dealers, middlemen, and actually supplied the injections to perry, including those that were given to him on the day he was found dead in the swimming pool then you have you have jovians sangha, who is known in hollywood as the ketamine queen. she would be the drug dealer who when the doctors started to run out of their ability to supply the ketamine. this ring allegedly turned to and she was able to supply a steady stream of that but then you have dr. mark chavez who once ran a ketamine clinic, which closed. but because he had old prescriptions he was able to supply another doctor who was the person who was helping

perry. so he was getting drugs allegedly from drug dealers, from doctors, from doctors who used to have clinics and all of this was because of his increasing need for volume of the drug, which ultimately killed him what i'm what was the motive? why would two doctors risk their entire careers to allegedly sell drugs to an actor? >> well, it's interesting because at the end of it, it comes to nothing more than greed. if you look at some of the evidence, prosecutors have, there's actually a statement captured in the text message from dr. salvador plus-end cia to dr. chavez, which basically says, let's see how much this moron is willing to pay. i wonder how much is more than willing to pay. let's see ultimately for the 20 vials of ketamine that dr. placenta cia allegedly lee turned over to perry's assistant. they charged $55,000, so they were in it for the money another

sense you get anderson from the cases. they certainly knew what they were doing was wrong because another text message between two of the conspirators. once the death of matthew perry hits, the news, is to delete all of the text messages delete all our text messages? yes and despite the fact that they did that, investigators would subpoenas, were able to backtrack the providers in platforms and recover most of them which are part of the smoking gun here is there anything else that stood out in the indictment to yeah. anderson, when you read between the lines, there's a lot in this case that wasn't apparent when they announced that five people, including two dogs doctors were charged, and that is that quietly at the beginning of the summer, if not before matthew perry's personal assistant who was at the center of this case began cooperating with prosecutors and entered into a plea agreement which says he'll testify against the others. he was followed by eric

fleming, the middleman, who was allegedly the go-between between perry and the ketamine queen and then dr. chavez, who was the go-between between dr. placenta and part of his ketamine supplies. out of the out of the five three got on board with federal prosecutors and have been talking to them and turning over documents and phone messages and other things for a long time were they dealing two other hollywood stars? that's the really interesting question. i spoke to a senior investigator tonight in los angeles who said they did run into the other names, other big names, other known, other known entities in hollywood in this case but none of those dealings amounted to what prosecutors thought was a case that would sustain a conviction because they were still alive and hadn't suffered an overdose and there were middlemen and so on. >> john miller appreciate the reporting. thank you very much. that's it for us. the news continues. the source with pamela brown starts now see tomorrow