to bron three and the 1992 dream team would crush whatever we almost did in the olympics this year. sorry, steph, i love you, but my god, come on. anyway. michael jordan, number one, lebron. let's good. it's pretty good. >> we are not going to litigate all of that tonight, everyone. thank you very much. and thank you for watching news night live from chicago, laura coates live starts right now well, well, well, what a difference a month can truly make. >> i mean, just think about it at the start of july, democrats were describing their meeting things about president biden's

reelection, chances as a funeral all the while, the trump campaign was effectively measuring the curtains to move back in. but in just four weeks the vp kamala harris now at the top of that ticket, that is all change tomorrow, harris enters the democratic convention in chicago with the wind at her back. those funeral vibes, they're out and apparently concert vibes are in frankly, it'll be like a rock concert. i think people are going to be cheering and pretty excited. and i can say i've not felt this kind of energy, electricity at any convention other than the one for barak obama well, now the race has changed, but it actually still is tight a national poll out today shows her making progress compared to biden standings. >> and in fact, it's the first time, but she's lead in a national poll but statistically, the cnn average of the latest polls actually shows no clear leader in the swing states. they're very important swing states that will decide this election

they're also tight. you know, who knows it? >> vice president kamala harris very much considered a standard doug, we have a lot of work to do to earn the vote of the american people. that's why we're on this bus tour today. and we're going to be traveling this country as we ben underdog. that's the same word she's when she actually called governor tim walz and asked him to be her running mate. and i wonder if they use of the phrase is a show of humility or concern. and asked for that bus tours she mentioned it was through battleground, pennsylvania today day and she was there along with walz and they were hitting several events all throughout the day. now, this whole week in chicago and his roster of speakers will be about defining harris and of course, keeping the momentum and all of the enthusiasm going now, teeing it up or two political bookends shall we say, you get president biden and hillary clinton tomorrow night alone. one candidate who defeated trump and another, who narrowly lost to him. i want to

bring in former spokesperson for governor doug burgum's 2024 campaign. lance trover, former obama campaign pain adviser, a major gross, cnn political commentator and republican pollster kristen soltis anderson, and cnn contributor lulu garcia navarro. so glad to have all of you here. look, there's different vibe happening from a month ago about this convention and it with all the momentum is happening and i wonder if you and misha. i mean, there's still people that she's got to convince. she's got to get the job done for voters who want to look to her, but might not be convinced, what does she have to do to define herself? >> no, absolutely. and i think that's why she keeps relaying to herself as the underdog, even though we've seen some of these polls ship one of the things that she's doing that is extremely important is defining her narrative. a lot of america still doesn't know the backstory of kamala harris. so talking about how she worked a low-wage job, worked at mcdonald's when she was in college talking about her mom having to save for over a decade to be able to afford a home. and what that meant for her family when she was a teenager in high school, when

they were actually able to finally get to that point. but i think it's also leaning in and talking about the issues that matter to the american public. the most, it is no mistake that she came out with a very strong economic agenda going into the dnc. she did not wait until after the dnc see to do it. and part of that i think is because what we've heard from americans over and over and over again exhaustively, housing crisis, housing prices are too hot grocery bills are too hot, having concerns about that, that childcare expenses you talked earlier about, you know, back-to-school there are a lot of families who have children going back to school and are trying to decide whether or not they can afford school supplies and to keep the electricity on and it's been a really hot summer school has got back in session. >> okay. i don't care if i'm that mom. thank you. have them back for a little bit for the day time. i hear you on that point, but let me ask all of you. what is more important to the voters right now, the idea of defining herself and her backstory as a musha adequately described or about what she stands for specifically, i mean, i wonder where's the rub and the rubber meeting the road for the voters? is it the

policy or is it do i like you? >> i think voters don't think of those two things as terribly separate, right? it's easy for us as political pundits or consultants to think about these things is all very discreet, but for voters at all, kind of blends together into a soup of things that they're using to give them a feeling is this person someone who's with me, do they get me? are they going to do things that are good for me or not? this is where harris has had the most benefit in the short term, but has the most risk in the medium to long term in the polling that came out today, one of the numbers that stuck out to me the most was that 33% of voters thought that harris had played a significant role in joe biden's economic policies. and 39% that that she'd played a significant role in his immigration policies. >> that's less than half. >> so good thing though, looking at if they think that she is influential, it's good for her, you know, immigration or the economy or not, you're strong stance for this party hey, perception, right? >> so in any other universe, it would be bad if you're a vice president and you are

considered not influential in the administration. but when voters are saying please don't give me a trump biden rematch, the sense that somebody is different is not a trump-biden rematch. this is new actually her ability to distance herself from biden right now is giving her that advantage as she defined herself. right now, there is the opportunity to either lock in these voters who have at least in the short run said, oh thank goodness, i have somebody different. i can vote for. sure but the trump campaign has to be more disciplined about trying to define her in what they believe is the negative light tying her to biden's policies, saying she'll be worse than biden. that message has got to stick in stick soon because the election is very close. >> i find this fascinating. i mean, the idea that i think you don't have influence as a good thing. and yet these problems aren't really going away. the perception that some voters have. but i'm not knowing what the party might think about jugular issue. >> how do you see it? >> yeah. it's this dance that she's going to have to do. it's complicated. she is going to come onto this stage. it's only been a month. she's going to have this sitting president

on the first night and she's gone and i have to show him a lot of deference, a lot of love, but define herself and take the mantle and say, this is what i stand for, and this is who i am. she's already done a lot. i think already in the way that she's message, she's given a lot of enthusiasm the way she seems tough, the way she does even walks down a plane. i used to watch biden walking down the plane and it was always it's kind of like halting and just the visuals we're so different and she is very commanding in the way that she sort of embraced all this. and i think that at this particular moment she is going to have to sort of take control of the party and show that this is her party and this is her moment. >> but how she how she doing it lands in part jump in the idea of you've got hillary clinton speaking tomorrow, you've got joe biden, the obama is likely to be there as well as evan points. and of course, defining yourself knowing that you've got the backdrop of predecessors to some degree then you got the trump campaign

desperately wanting to take the wind out of her sails. they do not want her to be successful in defining they're trying to define her what do you think the trump campaign should be doing during this week to try to figure out how they put themselves in the limelight. >> well, i think the trump campaign's doing what they can do. i mean, but you're up against a convention as the same way the democrats really couldn't do much during the republican mentioned, i got the emails. they're going to be out and about all week long, somebody's they're doing press conference in chicago tomorrow or the next day or so, trump's go into arizona later in the week but i think the rubber meets the road though is yet i think she's going to have a really good week. i think the democrats are i don't know how these protests are going to shake out. that could be a distraction, but i think overall she's going to have a really good week. i wouldn't be surprised if she's not even further ahead coming out of this convention but post-labor day, i think is where the rubber is going to meet the road with her and we talk about the policies. i think then voters are really going to traditionally start keying into this election. and i think that's where they're going to start looking saying, okay, what does she stand for? what is her vision for the country?

they know donald trump, that's not that's not it up to the bait, but i think then post labor day that's when poster and really didn't say, what does she stand right about post labor day especially, and that's one of the reasons why the fundraising hauls that kamala harris has been able to do have been so enormous and very strong because she's already committed the campaign has to millions of dollars and post-labor we're day adds the overwhelming majority of those being digital ads because that's where the people to tell those ads that i mean, is it is it similar to before? i want to hear your take on this? because she was earlier today talking about donald trump. i mean, there was even intimate that he was a coward. i want i play it for you guys and then i want to hear your response this campaign is about a recognition that frankly over the last several years there been this kind of perversion that has taken place. >> i think which is to suggest, which is to suggest that the measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you beat dad when what we know is the real and true measure of the strength of a leader is based

on who you lift up. anybody was about beating being down other people. is a coward i mean, should all day long you've heard people say, well, she calling trump a coward, that's been the headline you've seen it all over the place. >> and it's the idea of not being directed. there isn't insult. will the tenor and the tone of things changed as a more effective strategy? to go toe to toe after labor day? >> i think so. i mean, there are two things at play here. one, she is the she's already the presumptive nominee. she is going to walk out of the dnc as the nominee and beyond that, i think that we're also going to see donald trump continued to implode. there is no way that he does not implode after all of the excitement of the dnc, we've seen it on truth, social, we've seen some of the conversations he's had with press. if you can call it that. i don't even know what those things were. i think that he's going to continue to do that and she's going to hit him hard. but in addition to that, he has also attacked some of the most protected, i think citizens of our country when it comes to veterans and many of those veterans and veterans organizations are also pushing

back because she has to the walz on her campaign to get their ways in which she can speak to that population that will really touch them. and i think that he is a secret weapon in many ways, and he will be utilized in those ads as well. >> think that's what's been so interesting, seeing all this energy from the republicans targeting tim waltz. and i think the reason you're seeing that is precisely because they do see him as a threat. he does represent a lot of the constituency's that the republicans think are their constituencies veterans people from rural backgrounds. he speaks to that, and that is why you're seeing a lot of energy being put into trying to take him down. but about the midwest, i mean asking for a minnesotan here. >> but the idea of you know, when j.d. vance came out, the thought was the rust belt would be you know, his ability to command that you've got a minnesota governor, you've got the midwest far outside the beltway which everyone always focuses on as if it's the only place in the united states of america. it's not what does, this do for those voters to

focus on walz? >> well, what i think it does is it one signals that both of these campaigns view we've long said that the suburban mom is the swing voter. this almost feels to me like they think suburban dads. so the swing voter that you're kind of big ten football watching dad is the crucial swing vote in this election on both campaigns are going to make a play for him and they call them coach like 30 times reported that strategy i do wonder if by putting and look, democrats have done this with j.d. vance, have, they've spent a ton of time going after him on all of the things he said in the past that they find to be off-putting. there's been a lot of effort and going after these vice presidential candidates on both sides lately. but i wonder to what extent is that? taking your eye off the ball now in the case of going after j.d vance, as you said, lands trump's already very well-defined and i've been in some ways surprised to see the lack of the apocalyptic rhetoric donald trump is a threat to democracy that type of message is not actually what harris and her team have been delivering so far. it's been more of this like he's weird

type message. instead, they've really been focusing more of the harsh stuff on j.d. vance for the flip side of that, harris is still undefined every minute you spend talking about tim walz as a minute you're not spending trying to define kamala harris. so i do think it's a little bit of an odd strategic choice to spend so much time going well, he's not doing any you're also doing any interviews. >> i mean, the idea and i always want what's this mean? to define yourself. obviously, politically, you want to be the person to make sure that you set the tone, but you're not giving interviews, which i know there has been a big issue for people not giving interviews. maybe even labor day, and you've got this opportunity at the convention, what happens is she does she take the same approach she has and just say i'm going to focus on can your head not too much on doomsday and do it this way. >> i think i understand the strategy that they're employing right now. i totally get it and they're trying to buy more time and buy more time. i think what she's running up against as exactly what we talked about earlier when you get to labor day and voters start paying attention

she's simply doesn't have an option because i don't think voters are going to allow it. so she's going to have to answer questions. she's going to have to come out with more policy-centric ideas and say, where does she want to take? the country because voters are going to demand it to your point, kristen no one knows who she is no one knows what she stands for, what they what they have to go on, or what the trump people are saying, which is she was the borders are she controlled the border in this country at her record as a senator from california, which was a very far left voting record. that's right now what people have to go on post-labor day, she's going to have to take questions. she's going to have to get out there and talk about the issues. >> i love this. i want to hear from you. >> you asked me to be working quick break, right? i loved sort of arbitrary deadline of labor day everyone's right. selina and i mean, what has the last month ben, i know i have a neck brace from the whiplash office that is labor day. people standby, everyone, tens of thousands of demonstrators were expected to descend upon shied town for the dns they including protests against the israel gaza war how should vice president kamala harris respond? well, former new york city mayor bill to blasio might

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bertrand at the pentagon and this is cnn because we believe in democracy, everyone's voice matters, but i am speaking now you know what? if you want donald trump to win, then say that otherwise, i'm speaking vice president kamala harris, facing disruptions on the campaign trail for demonstrators over the israel hamas war and the humanitarian crisis in gaza, as she has changed her respond to protests since they first interrupted her. >> but those tensions they could crescendo in a very public way, right here at the dnc this week mean thousands of protesters are expected to arrive in the city of chicago was already taking the street

today. organizers are planning for a larger rally tomorrow, but maybe leave it to bureaucracy to put maybe a little pinky on the scale. because permanent disputes and restrictions could actually shrink the size of those protests. but chicago isn't baking on permits. hundreds of police this officers and the illinois national guard there on standby tonight the backdrop of chicago only adding to the tension thoughts of the dnc here in 1968 and the protests over the vietnam war. top of mind for many people we'll arriving in the windy city tonight one of those was planning to be in chicago, former new york city mayor bill de blasio, mayor. thank you so much for joining us. it is quite a week ahead of us and you've had some experience in dealing with pretty tense protests and the city is going to take you know, people, let the lead here, but people were looking at vice president harris. i'm trying to see what message she is sending how would you advise her to handle those protests?

>> well, laura, i think it's actually very healthy that people are taking this seriously, meaning there's not a triumphalism, certainly with the democrats, i'm speaking to about the idea that this is all going to be easy in this week is going to be glorious. i think people take very seriously that there's a lot of folks out there are really upset have something to say and that depending on how it's handled, it could really have an impact on what america thinks of our ticket that said, i think the parallel is 1968, don't really hold extremely different reality in terms of the issues we are facing, but also the footage you even showed there, the chicago police at that point were out of control. thank god today, we have a police force there playing by the rules. you need to play by in a democracy. so i think we'll see a smart, restrained approach from the police. i think they have to be mindful, give that protesters some space, some opportunity to get out what they're there to say sometimes it's really

important to have a little bit of a safety valve gives some space but also know when it's important to draw the line then finally, i think it's really clear if vice president harris took a different tone than president biden, right out of the gate and talked about palestinian suffering. and i am someone who believes in the state of israel absolutely believes hamas is a horrible terrorist organization, but palestinians are suffering and americans care about it and it's important to talk about it and find a way to bring peace to gaza. i think she's done a good job talking about, she's going to have to keep talking about. >> now. >> you obviously were the mayor during the george floyd murder after bath protests that continued really across the country obviously he were looking at you as the mayor, looking at the police for us, she is obviously the vice president. i'd say she's in somebody elss solse'town. she'sn chicago. she is not controlled. the police department there but i do wonder at what point do you think it would be appropriate for people to look to her to figure out what ought to happen for protests outside

of the convention and those who might appear within the halls of the convention itself. while laura is such a good question because in fact, we should not underestimate this challenge she's not in a position to determined day-to-day policing, and i can tell you when i was mayor in new york city, i was deeply involved in how he responds to the protests. but you're still talking about thousands and thousands of police officers, thousands of incidents. no one can perfectly control all that. i after the it was all over of help. we have made some mistakes and i talked about it publicly. so my concern here is she doesn't get to control everything that happens, but it will stick to her. what she controls is her message. and i think it started well, but i don't think that is going to necessarily be enough. one of the things i was really struck by was a few months back when senator schumer really clearly said that benjamin netanyahu had to go as prime minister, that he was so much of the problem in the region. i think that's something the vice president needs to think

about saying as well. i think i think she has to talk about palestinian suffering she has to talk about what's wrong with the current israeli strategy while being very clear, we will always defend israel from its surrounding enemies. of course. but at the same time, the current policies have benjamin netanyahu are causing a humanitarian crisis she will have to say more about that. maybe not this week, but soon, i think to really keep our coalition as whole as it should be i'll be curious to see as well, because there is obviously some uncommitted delegates. >> and of course their voters who cast protest votes against biden over the war in gaza. i'll be curious, see if they are any of them are allowed to speak. they have a right to do so during the convention, we'll see what happens. we're going to hear from somebody particularly tomorrow. and it's hillary clinton and you were hurt campaign manager for her senate run in 2000 and she's going to be speaking to understand tomorrow about her run in 2016 what she sees as a

future for harris if she's able to break the glass ceiling, this the second time in history we've actually seen a woman nominated to a party like this. a lot has changed these past eight years has enough changed for harris to defeat trump. >> i absolutely i believe so. look, i think it's going to be a emotionally powerful moment and a bittersweet moment for hillary rodham clinton, who by so many measures, was the person who was ready to be the first woman president united states and would have brought so much that job. so i mean, it's going to be in some ways a tough moment. i can say this as someone who got to serve with her, that she's going to feel a lot of different things. but i think what's beautiful about it is that she's one of the reasons that comma harris will be stepping forward and can win this election hillary clinton helped lead the nation to the edge of the promised land. she didn't get to go in herself, a kamala harris can i think the difference and it's a

profound difference whether it's a metoo movement whether its response to the trump administration we saw from the very beginning with the women's march. obviously the impact of the decision on roe v. wade, you've gotten entirely different politics today. than a decade ago and this decision will be decided by the women of america, period. and what we're seeing with a stunning movement in the polls literally hour-by-hour, it seems women of america are speaking and hillary did not have the opportunity to have that kind of clear, stunning momentum. i think she deserved it, but it wasn't there but it is there for kamala harris there is something that is a different kind of energy we are seeing. we'll see if it carries through this week. and of course, the momentum has got to carry what, 79 days from now to election day mayor bill to blasio. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> well, donald trump can't seem to stay away from attacking vice president kamala harris is laugh enter appearance apparently even if

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from these personal attacks against the vice president donald trump, the province of the provocateur tour, the showman may not win this election, so i'm looking for president trump. >> to show up in the last 80 days to define what he will do for our country to fix broken borders, to lower inflation, almost any other republican candidate would be winning this race by ten points. if you stick to what matters, this should be an easy race for donald trump all right, well, trump, listen, my panel is back with me now. okay. let's talk about what the step to what matters because i'm always wondering about what really matters to the voters. is it the nuance and policy positions? is it the personality? there's a split screen happening, lulu between what is expected say, of donald trump and what is kamala harris it's it's blatant donald trump is benefiting from the fact that he was president and people feel like they know him.

>> donald trump is also suffering from the fact that he was president and people feel that they know him, kamala harris is now trying to define her tell so she has a lot of opportunity, but she's a bit of a blank slate and people and a bit of a rorschach test. so if you have certain feelings about the biden administration or democrats, or fears about what that could look like. you're going to superimpose certain things on her i think what trump has really not done a good job is taking this and saying what exactly kamala harris could beat. we've had all these weird nicknames now it's comrade harris trying to make her into a communist. i mean, we've got an a.i. generated image of a war woman next to, i think a hammer the in a sickle, there's also the comrade i'm cuban. >> my family fled communism. i personally find it incredibly insulting to have that be put up there so he's trying everything that he can. it has worked for him before. will it work for him again? it doesn't seem to be at the moment the polls are not moving in his direction everyone's begging

him to stop doing what he's doing, but he cannot control himself to answer your first question. nope, not going trump is trump and we all know it and he's not changing, right? >> it was quoted in the new york times. he told that some donors i am who i am, right? john king had a piece on cnn.com that i saw right before i came over here and he was interviewing republicans in iowa and one woman who had supported nikki haley even considered a third-party candidate, said no, i'm voting for donald trump. and her line in the story was, look, i'm not voting for him to be my ballentine. i'm not voting for him to be my best friend i want his policies and i think that represents not just republicans who don't support him. i think that also represents other voters out there that may not always be refracted, reflected in polling and if history is any guide on election day, there's one thing we know, donald trump always outpost it's the polls. and if i'm a democrat, that's always in the back of my mind. >> well, senator j.d vance has been talking about policy. me, sean, this point mean he earlier today with attacking vice president kamala harris is

economic plan. listen to this giving kamala harris control over inflation policy. shannon it's like getting jeffrey epstein control over human trafficking policy. the american people are much smarter than that yeah and they probably are smart enough to know that's a hell of a wild analogy to draw. but yet he's trying to look at policy through the lens of the provocatory. i think the graham is even mentioning is this the way in to try to have this setup of having the best of both worlds you attack versus provocatory language versus with it. and you also points to economics well, i think that there are some policy lanes that republicans could be strong on, that they're not taking right now. >> and j.d. vance, he can't stop putting his wouldn't his mouth, bringing up jeffrey epstein, any any correlation to donald trump at this point is just something that should be off off the richter for them just because the maybe flights that were taken, the fact that this guy has already been adjudicated for sexual sexual misconduct up to an including rape. that's something that should not be on the table. but i do think that they cannot

stop because for whatever reason, they are not wanting to have a conversation about project 2025 because it's been shortly unpopular. but in addition to that they are more willing to try to pursue these lines of attack against person who ever kamala harris, whether it's race, whether it's gender, whether it's attacking women in general who are the largest voting bloc in this country. they do not want to talk about policy. and i think that to a point that was made earlier, there walking into this immigration was probably going to be the strongest hit. they possibly could have done, considering that a lot of americans quite frankly are upset at the current immigration framework and the economy. but unfortunately for them, the economy tends to tick up. we just saw the inflation number go down. yes, there are people who are frustrated about cost at the grocery stores. those are things that i harris his economic agenda are very strong pointing towards relief from but if they stayed in those lanes, they would have a better chance. but the republicans are not interested in expanding their base. >> they are driving very strategically into one lane,

even though democrats are grabbing white males. >> we saw evangelicals for harris we're seeing these groups expand on the left, whereas the right is absolutely fine with that same smallpox exactly true. i mean, donald trump did in ways that surprised a lot of people, expand republican standing with latino voters he was up until very recently doing much better among black men, even though he himself did just a few years ago. >> so i would push back on the idea that donald trump hasn't changed the republican coalition in ways that have expanded. the question is now with harris at the top of the ticket, how much does it kind of reset back to the coalitions that were going head-to-head back and say 2016 when it was not out of trump-biden race, to what extent does donald trump's still supercharged with the kind of white working class voters that the harris campaign is obviously going for by trying to say, look, we're the true ones that have union support. look, we have tim waltz these are groups that donald trump really infused into the republican party as well as sort of working class voters of color. then i think

the harris campaign says, no, no, no biden may not have been doing as well, but we can get these for questioning a black woman's race and coming and coming against blackness is something that isn't popular amongst black man is i don't think that any gains that he thought he had amongst black men were going to automatically be siloed minute he started attacking her as a black well, and every minute that he spends doing something like that is a minute he's not doing what the dave mccormick for senate campaign in pennsylvania did, which is 24 hours after the race. >> the top of the ticket change for democrats, they put out an ad that said, here are all of kamala harris is policy positions in her own words? we're not saying this is her position. it's a clip of her saying her position. it was positions that were pretty far to the left, pretty far outside the mainstream. many of which she has since repudiated. but i think it would be smart for the trump campaign to have the pressure put on her constantly do you still believe we should abolish i.c.e. do you still believe we should defund the police? do you still believe that we should stop fracking if you don't explain why and keep that pressure up because every time he does something where it's the personal attacks, the stuff that you were talking about, where he goes after

race, gender, that is a total distraction from the stuff that really matter will take questions first before yes. >> on that point, know you were nodding along on this, but it's it's really there's the proactive role of the trump campaign to elicit these responses from the harris walz campaign. and then there's a proactive turn for the harris-walz campaign to address these points. this is the time when you talked about this. it's crunch time. we know that one is going to be the president of the united states what do they have to do now to make sure that american voters know how they stand and where they need to actually talk to the american voter in a way that the american voter can understand it. they need to hear from vice president harris. she needs to give an interview. she needs to be very present during this debate. i mean, we have a debate coming up where these questions are going to be asked and she is going to have to answer them. and that is why she has been pushing this off because of course, every time you put a

stake in the ground when you hold a position your opposition is going to say this isn't right. i don't like it and right now, she's benefiting from the fact that it's xi's a little bit of morphos and we don't really know what she believed and i think to really win this race, she is going to have to say, i am a democrat i am a woman. i am a black woman. i stand for a number of things that are important. but at the same time, i am not what the republicans are trying to paint me to be. and so it's going to be difficult. i don't think it's going to be easy. >> trump must do the same thing though. >> i mean, i know that we focused on her defining herself. >> she's the unknown versus a prior president. but she's also been a senator. she's been the vice president for three-and-a-half years, isn't it also incumbent on the trump campaign to to address these points, not just play reactive i think the campaign is actually, i mean, one thing we're kind of glossing over to give the trump campaign does deserve some credit.

>> they are on tv advertising, they are executing a plan out there in these swing states. so it's not like they're completely off message and not talking about issues they put out two new ads today, one about crime and one about the economy. so they are out there, i think they do deserve some credit for addressing it. we can debate all day long donald trump's staying on message. but again, trump's trump. i don't think that's ever going to change, but that's eight years of him doing that. voters. again, i go back to the john king story. that's really just a way of voters saying they know who he is, they know how it goes. so what i'm just want to go back to the policies. >> well, the harris campaign could also say, look, i am talking about it, just not to the media. i'm talking to her rallies we'll see if that's good enough for the voters. standby, everyone, please. ahead. she's considered a superstar by democrats, but she hasn't been held, elected office and she says that she never will what will michelle obama deliver when she talks at the dnc on tuesday night, will talk about it next this. is the home for the world's most essential stories in journalism.

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i'm tom foreman in washington and this is cnn when someone is cruel or acts like a bully, you don't stoop to they're level. know our motto is when they go low, we go high that seven word phrase will forever be linked to former first lady michelle obama, her 2016 dnc speech, one of several memorable moments during her time in the niccol spotlight alongside her husband and former president barak obama. >> now chicago, you know, is her hometown. and so returned there to speak at the dnc here tuesday night that evening, theme, a bold vision for america's future future with me now, writer at katie kate

anderson brower, she's the author of several books about the white house, including first women, the grace and power of america's modern first ladies is kate. thank you for being here this evening. an exciting moment to think about what she might be saying given her last very memorable speech, there, her favorability rating, it's at 55%. that is one of the highest among politicians. and she's not even one how is she able to resonate with voters so highly well, i mean, when she left the white house, it was 70%. >> it's astounding how much people trust and like her and there was a poll, actually the usa today did it showed that people value her opinion more than taylor swift, more than beyonce? they really respect her because i think partially because she doesn't want to run for president. right? she hates politics she hates the fighting and the divisiveness and so she doesn't really have

that kind of political goal in mind. she's, she's a mom. she's a professional. she's intelligent, she's funny. >> people people love her. she's she was very warm in the white house and that's continued to be the case as a former first lady. >> i mean, you've said she famously said that she does not want to run for president. he believe in thought and talked about her potentially doing so. she has been very clear that she is not running. there is another first lady that speaking that of course is hillary clinton, but she has a difference what role in the party today, having been a democratic nominee, also a senator, secretary of state how does michelle obama view her role in the party today i think she's going to be talking about voter engagement and she's done a lot of work with when we all vote, which is about narrowing the gap for for age and for race, getting people out to vote, getting people excited about kamala harris, that's what she's going to be trying to do and i think she's an a really unique

position to do that because as you said in 2016 she had such an electric fiery speech and yet she still maintain that warmth when she was speaking. >> and there's always a bit of humor in it too. it's going to be a lot about the future. i'm curious to see how much she mentions donald trump, if at all, it seems like they're trying not to be negative, to be more hopeful yeah. >> that name seems to be a kind of a voldemort these days at these rallies and otherwise, jill biden is speaking tomorrow as well. it's her first major speech since her husband president biden dropped out of the race. and there have been let's just say some tensions between the bidens and party leaders. what effect her message to be i think her message is going to be all about paying tribute to her husband's 50 years of service she wants him to go down as one of the greatest presidents in history and there's obviously,

you know, she hunter biden were very much backing him staying in the race and there are reports that they were frustrated him personally hurt that some democrats didn't want him to stay so beyond those kind of hurt feelings, i think she's moving forward and looking at his legacy. >> what will the history books say about him? in 100 years? that's what she's going to be trying to do when she speaks and she is unendingly loyal to him. and so i think we'll hear a lot of that personal touch from joe biden. >> plus why she's going at some point early during the convention as well. kate anderson brower. thank you so much thanks. >> laura well, the last time the dnc was in chicago this song was sweeping the nation yes that's billericay and dancing to the macarena and it's not the only time combat song was referenced. >> i'll quiz our panel on the

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kennedy be hillary clinton or see al gore they all got it, right? yes. and here is that moment everyone i would like to demonstrate for you now gore version of the macarena would, you like to see it again the dead pan phase. okay. how about number question number two? who spoke at both the 1996 dnc and between 24 rnc, was it a jim justice be peter navarro or c. hulk hogan? >> it was peter navarro, everyone.

>> it wasn't did it back here was that moment good job. if you go we owe it to the voters to keep our campaigns on the high road. let's win one for home, for the man from home, bill clinton they did not break me. >> and then we'll never break donald trump that was a split screen in question number three, which broadway shows? >> original cast performed the 1960 and z was it chicago cats or rent someone's seeing you're cheating me. tell you what their to answer is rents. all right. lulu, you got that one there you go. okay? >> here a little bit of it. there you go. oh, there they are. they're planning it. wow so i think how big of a cast that is moving it is 100 bucks for who could actually name that number that was actually said no, i'm just kidding. >> no money. number four, which celebrities spoke at the 96th

dnc, was it christopher reeve tommy lee jones or robert de niro out. okay. i guess we all know and the answer is christopher wray's way to be different land that was not dinero. no one was talking record in high school oh, good for you good for you. okay. he's calling i had to write a fine. how about question five? okay. let's expand away from 96. i get it. how many dnc is will biden have attended after tomorrow? is it a eight be 13? or sea 21? >> so gosh, i don't know wow, all of them. >> it is good guidance. be 30. >> there you go. oh, okay. well done. all right. question six. a dnc kiss between which candidate and his wife went viral. was an allen temporary barak and michelle are okay, it, was it was correct. we can never let it was clearly, we're

getting now we're going to see it. oh, no, no, no. >> we don't need to see that again i'm just saying when a man matt the reynas, you know, maybe causes that. okay. well, how about question number seven, which dnc featured a balloon drops yes. ago that was inadvertently broadcast here on cnn. was it 96, 2000 or 2000? 2004 thank you. i. have not i got to look to hold on. what was that? oh, wait. wait. i can't answer it was cnn hold that. i'm pretending. i'm hedging. we didn't do anything wrong. it was 2004. you're all correct here, of course. is that moment? >> like confetti bring up what

i mean, you know, all the balloon, but you go. >> hey, it's a three-way tie by the way, between you three there you gotta ladies haven't but thanks, lance, you get i don't know. maybe a good job. there you go. there you go. thank you, everyone. and thank you all for watching. i'll see you tomorrow night from chicago of course, 12:00 a.m. 2:00 a.m. eastern until then as an cooper continues, our coverage and good evening from the united center in chicago, site of a far different and far more historic 2024 democratic national convention and was even remotely imaginable just four weeks weeks ago. >> tomorrow night, the former candidate president biden, will give a keynote speech finalizing the transition to the new candidate and presumed nominee vice president harris. she