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president biden, passing the torch tonight at the democratic national convention plus i'm a better look in person then kamala donald trump, ignoring pleas from his own party to stop the personal attacks start to focus on policy and this a sign of things to come pro-palestinian let me in protesters, jeremy, the loop in chicago on the eve of the dnc it is for i'm here in chicago 5:00 a.m. out on the east coast. >> a live look at the united center right here in chicago, which is of course the home to the democratic national convention throughout the week. we are here. good morning,

everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us we are just hours away from the start of the democratic national convention and man does it look radically different from what was planned, even just a month ago? you'll remember, of course, it was supposed to be president biden at the top of the ticket ready to accept the nomination for a second term on the convention's close? closing night. that would be thursday. >> instead, he will be here tonight opening night a speaker on behalf of his vice president. >> the dramatic turnaround at the top of the ticket. we are seeing that shake up new polling. kamala harris taking the lead and an abc news washington post ipsos poll, now, what for zero points nationally in the head-to-head matchup with donald trump during a stop in pennsylvania harris had this to say in response to the polls polls show that you're three points up nationally. >> what's your response to this? >> you still consider yourself the underdog here. very much

consider as the underdog. we have a lot of work to do. so her the vote of the american people. that's why we're on this bus tour today donald trump, also on the campaign trail in pennsylvania this weekend, you sensing a trend, bear. >> he was trying to tear down his new rival ahead of her big moment here at the convention that is the laugh of a crazy person that is the laugh laugh of a lunatic so they deposed a president who was a coup of a president. this was a coup. >> i'm a better look in person kamala joining us now to talk about all of this. >> sabrina rodriguez, national political reporter at the washington post, margaret talev senior contributor at axios meghan hays, former messaging message planning director in the biden white house. welcome to all of you. thank you for being here. we should also say at meghan, you have been working on this democratic national convention as well. so why don't i start with you? i mean, set the stage for us

tonight. we have talked a lot about unity i will also say it does seem like there are you know, it's it's a difficult thing for the current sitting president to do this the gold also for his wife, jill biden, who we expect to hear from tonight. as well. how do you expect the night to play out? >> i think that everyone has worked incredibly hard to pull this together and make some changes in the last month as the top of the ticket changed, as you mentioned, but i think that people are really excited to hear from president biden. i think it's a really great moment for him to pass the torch. i think dr. biden will also give unit remarks clarifying that they're unified and they're behind the vice president and governor walz. but i think people are just excited to be here. i think we didn't get a convention in 2020, so i think people are just excited to gather and to be here. i mean, everything will be really exciting the energy this week in chicago has been really exciting and people are just really pumped to be here and to hear from the president and then to move on to the the vice president and the governor accepting their nomination. yeah. margaret talev, i mean, it does feel like a little literal party when you run into

on the streets, i've heard they partied all night. >> i think a lot of them are probably still going to bet as we were heading here but it was interesting to listen to harris there on the bus tour because there does seem to be a sense that she's not pushing back against that necessary currently, she's totally embracing it. but there is also something to be said for the message like, hey, we might be excited, but if we don't work at this, it's not going to come out the way we want it to. >> we were looking at all of these polls in recent days and well axios, we have some forthcoming polling as well. more on that tomorrow, but they all sure what they show is. i don't think is her overtaking donald trump. i think they show her catching up to donald trump and this becoming a tight contest. and now up in the air again. and it is a reset for her. but that reset there's a subtlety inside that reset, which is that it's now both an opportunity but also like a demand that she has to define herself to a lot of voters who, even though she has been the vice president, do not necessarily feel that they note she gets a grace period on a

lot of biden's policies that are unpopular. she gets a reset opportunity, but now she has to fill well, that space. >> yeah, one sabrina, to that point. i mean, if she's had a tough moment since this has all unfolded for her and to be clear, she's been riding high. she did come in for some criticism for the economic speech he gave on friday for the policy she rolled out there. it led to this post online from trump, which showed a mock-up. again, this is an a.i. generated image which is noted on our graphic. but it's a mock-up of this event here, calling her comrade kamala harris. as you can see, this is of course a reference to her plan related to prohibiting the price gouging from grocery stores? which, they've liked into the soviet union. and then this was trump in wilkes-barre, pennsylvania over the weekend saying repeatedly that she is a communist we are going to defeat comments amola harris,

kamala went full communist just you heard that she went full communist. she wants to destroy our country her father, a marxist. he was a marxist it's what her father taught her from a young girl growing up so sabrina, this is both a personal and a policy-based attack, i suppose from donald trump. he's not solely staying on this message, but that is something that they that he is leveling at her at this point, effective, not i mean, this is where her having an effective communication strategy is going to come in. this is where she has to be on the road really touting what that economic message is and what those policies that she's supporting is there's no question that trump is going to be on the road and he's going to be calling her comrade kamala harris and he is going to attack her as a communist it is especially the socialists and communists attacks against

democrats are not anything new. so of course, it is not surprising to see them look at her economic plan and say, okay, let's pick apart pieces that we can come out and trump can use to slam her. >> but she does need to define herself. there's still no question that many people, even if her being the vice president, don't really know her, wanted to see how she differentiates, differentiates herself from joe biden. and this is opportunity for her to go on the campaign trail unexplained for all the talk of inflation for all the talk of the economy, and what the future of it looks like her explain this is why i want to do this and this is why it would be good for americans. >> just be clear for anyone who is just waking up like color, not a communist yes somewhat on their fair enough? yes so meghan one of the things where trump trump does lead harris still is this idea of who is a strong leader. >> and we know of course that hillary clinton was the first person to first woman to take

this nomination so democrats have been very careful to say harris is following in those footsteps, but strength it's something that has come up when women have run for president. and of course, this strongman persona is something trump leans into. i thought this was interesting. harris was asked, well, she talked about the idea of what it means to be a strong leader when she was on this bus tour over the weekend, i want to watch that and we'll talk about it briefly. >> frankly, over the last several years, there's been this kind of perversion that has taken place, which is to suggest that the measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you beat down what we know is the real and true measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you lift up anybody was about beating down other people in that coward this is what strength looks like your evaluation of

if that's going to help convince voters that she will be a strong leader. >> yeah, i think that people are looking for a contrast, right? and that she's showing that she is a more positive later she is a more, forthrightly or she's not going to criticize and make unnecessary mark saying that she is a better looking human than donald trump. that just seems to be like kelly weird thing that he's been doing lately. >> hey, there's that word feel like i've heard that somewhere. sorry but i just think that, you know, people are people are going to vote a lot on feelings here and people want help and want to look to the future. >> they don't want this negative person in their ear all the time, regardless of what attacks he's making so people are going to look at that and look at leader for ship there. but also when you're the vice president, you are not the main leader. the president is. and so she needs to go out there and show how she will be an effective leader as the president. and i think the sense of comments and being on the road showing people will be really impactful to people, to voters all right. >> standby by for me guys, because coming up here on cnn this morning, protests already underway in chicago how the

city is preparing to keep everyone safe when democrats kicked off this convention tonight, plus donald trump plotting to counter program to try to steal some of the spotlight from democrats this week, we'll dig into that. >> and the two key messages that president biden plans to deliver tonight on this opening night of the convention nothing can come in the way of saving our democracy that includes personal ambition so i've decided the best way forward there's a pass the torch to a new generation cnn is live from chicago as democrats unite to offer their support to a new nominee and her running mate fellow cnn for complete coverage, the democratic national convention tonight at seven on cnn. and streaming on max done messed i'm having fun, don't put me down on that with a electra allergies won't hold me back leggero starts working

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that none of you have any idea who i am. >> time for all that. john kerry, i accept your nomination ron and serve with barack obama. great honor and pleasure. i except we owe the finish line. i accept this nomination the, president joe biden will be attending his 13th democratic national convention tonight. he was just starting out as a delaware city councilman at his first dnc in 1972. and when the president speaks in chicago this evening, this will be the final stage for his political life. he is passing the torch to a new standard bearer for his democratic party. we do expect him to make a forceful case for electing kamala harris while casting donald trump as a threat to democracy. >> are you feeling about your speech real good. >> biden has been making last

minute revisions to his speech with senior aides at camp david ahead of his historic appearance tonight, panel's back joined by shermichael singleton, republican strategist, and cnn political commentator, who is having a great time. >> i understand it would've been happy to have you know, how to have fun. if you guys that make were honored that you i'm a little sleep made it here. but i do want to give this to you because you're the person sitting here who has worked for this man for joe biden. this was clearly a very, very difficult decision for him to make. he clearly is also still upset about how he was treated in some ways. but he has been very magnanimous toward harris, who i also know has been very careful in how she has conducted what we're going to see play out on this stage, which is her own ascension here to the forefront of all of this. how is the

president feeling or the people around the president feeling as this is set to unfold tonight i think there are two things here. >> i think she air i think that the president is probably pretty upset about how things went down. but i also think that he is doing what's best for this country and he knew that and he made that decision. and i think it was right for him to fully endorse the vice president here because it gives unify the democrats and it gives us an opportunity to move forward quickly, which we needed to do. but i think i think the president understand what's at stake here, and i think that he knows that what needs to happen for our country and what's best for. and he really so he does believe donald trump is a threat to democracy. where he's probably upset that he's not running for reelection. he still the president of united states. he saw six more months. he's done incredible things. he's had incredible legacy for his entire political career. he also did more in the first three-and-a-half years than most presidents have ever done in their eight years when they have two terms. i think he's incredibly proud of that, but i do think it's a hard moment for him but i think that he will honor it with grace and dignity, just like he does every other step. and his political life margot, what are you expecting from jill biden

tonight on stage? i think that both of the bidens understand that this is a legacy setting moment, and i would expect her to treat it that way. i also think that it's in president biden's interest for kamala harris to succeed just as it is in former president obama's interest for kamala harris to succeed just as is it in hillary clinton's interests for kamala harris to succeed we're talking about sort of the mood of the convention and i think for those of us who were in well walkie, you saw a big party for former president trump, but it was the party thrown by the party of trump, not the party thrown by the party of george w bush, george hw bush, ronald reagan gerald ford, john mccain. i don't know whatever they were mysteriously absent would have been available to attend anyway here you do see everything from the clintons. >> i actually, i guess joe

biden proceeds the clintons, but everything from the bidens to the clintons to the obamas to the bidens this ark of four generations of democratic leadership in the white house and democratic politics all pinning their own legacies in some sense on kamala harris's success. i think that makes it different than the republican convention, but i also think it is why everybody has here is self-interested in putting on the best show to allow harris walz that ticket to succeed. >> it, shermichael, i mean, how does, how are republicans looking at this? because, i mean, look, the convention in milwaukee was also a celebration at the time he had just survived an assassination attempt. biden was sold the top of the ticket he was leading in the polls. there was an expectation he was likely to win in november. that's all changed since then you know, it's interesting, kasie, because here you have this sitting president's speaking monday and we know that vice president harris has attempted to moderate from several of her

previous positions in the past, from her first run, from her time in the u.s. >> senate we know that her campaign would like to you run as far away from president biden's policies because they're generally speaking, aren't popular for the most part. and republicans are going to continue to attempt to define the vice president. she hasn't been defined as much as i would think some democrats would like to say that joe biden's policies or her policies, whether it's on the economy, whether it's on immigration whether it's on foreign policy, you are seeing a ton of protesters here in chicago. it's interesting because you've seen sort of the tale of two cities here started, you have bill clinton where things were great during the 90s to barack obama where things got a little shaky. and here we are under president biden and president and vice president kamala harris were a lot of people do not feel financially secure. they're not happy you about the state of the country writ large and they are worried about foreign conflicts from russia, ukraine, china, taiwan. now potentially israel and iran all right we're going to take a quick break here coming up as secretary of state, antony blinken travels

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menendez will resign his seat effective tomorrow. the new jersey democrat convicted last month on 16 counts including putting bribery, extortion, wire fraud, obstruction of justice, and acting as a foreign agent. >> new jersey governor phil murphy expected to appoint his former chief the staff, george helmy, as interim senator and today former new york congressman george santos will plead guilty to federal charges relating to fraud from his 2022 midterm campaign he previously pleaded not guilty to 23 federal charges. >> farage's including lying on his personal finance disclosure and fraud related to covid-19 unemployment benefits all right. time now for weather more than 170 storms reported yesterday spanning the northeast to the southern u.s. and connecticut, heavy rains causing mudslides, washed out roads here you can see emergency crews carrying out a water rescue last night. let's get to derek van dam for us this morning. derek, good morning. what are you seeing out there yeah. >> dramatic video is they're coming out of connecticut

within the past 12 hours. kasie, it's still raining in some portions of eastern connecticut. heaviest rain right now, located across the eastern sections of long island where a flash flood warning has been extended and see another heavy rain band about to impact. the 195 corridor 95 corridor will be extremely wet this morning. so do take care rainfall radar estimates upwards of ten inches. this is some one and 200 year event for monroe can get connecticut, so southwestern connecticut getting hit especially hard? there's that flash flood warning with a shading of red is located and we still have our flood warnings in place from the rain that took place yesterday. unfortunately, there's more precipitation in this forecast, so that could exacerbate some of the flooding at the local rivers and some of the streams as well. that's why we have a slight risk of flash flooding. and by the way, this is not associated directly with her cannon sdo, which is still churning over the northwestern atlantic, 85 mile per hour winds. this is still sending large swells into our coastlines. so do take care and for everybody in chicago today

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milestone in our nation's march toward a more perfect union. >> the first time that i made your party has dominated a woman for president, when any barrier falls in america it clears the way for every one all right, tonight, hillary clinton will be on stage again a person familiar with clinton's thinking tells cnn, quote, she'll talk about how many cracks have been put in the glass ceiling, but she will also talk about what she sees once the glass is shattered, once harris does it, or panelists back sabrina rodriguez, this this set of firsts that kamala harris will represent. i mean, she's actually on the campaign trail shouldn't shy away from it. but it's also not something that is at the center of what she's doing either. and i think watching how she has navigated that has been but telling what do you see in how

she's approached that i think it actually shows the progress from these very long eight years and where she is not leaning into her identity, she is not leaning into because she knows everyone else is going to it's not something that she needs to be touting on the campaign trail. >> it's not something that she needs to focus in on her campaign ads. mean we're talking about it on the panel. it gets talked about on a regular basis from democratic strategists she understands the history of it, but she also understands the difficulties that come with that she's aware that when it came to hillary clinton that she did not end up shattering that glass ceiling. so i think there's an awareness that she needs to be focusing on. on policy issues, on defining why she would be the best president, not why she would be the best woman president will now why she would be the best black woman to do this. i think that's where she's really trying to define herself and say this is not about identity, this is that i am the best person to do the job and i think that isn't evolution in limbo message around identity and gender that we've seen within the

democratic party. and i think more broadly in the country, maga tell how is this different than it was in 2016. and how does hillary being on stage tonight make how does that play as at work? >> it's a couple of things. one is that i think there are among many women voters and some non women voters as well. a feeling a sense that, that was very, very close and it was a missed opportunity. and their desire to finally have the first female president, as i think like from a tactical perspective kamala harris in the polling so far that we've seen the least has the ability really to energize younger people, women and women of color. that's a pretty powerful combination. and it comes at a time when reproductive rights, abortion politics, the post dobbs decision, the end of roe v. wade none of that had happened when hillary clinton was running for president. that has all changed. now my colleagues, mike allen, jim van, i have talked about the boys versus girls election and you have some themes of that.

and it in many ways doesn't help vice president harris there. maybe men who will not, or some woman who will not vote for her because she's a woman, but she also can harness the power of women voters and voters in america who want to see the first woman president elected. so she has to bounce it. i think she doesn't want it to be all identity, but in the ways that it helps her, she wants to activate those buttons in the way that it doesn't help her. she wants to minimize it and focus on policy. >> well, and it is a contract perhaps, but i mean, shermichael, i have to say coming out of milwaukee. i mean the word that i think was my colleague chris wallace who first used it on there. i heard him use it on our air. he was like this is the testosterone yeah. convention. right this is different. i mean, it is different, but you're also seeing that gap between men and women voters persistent in 2016, there was an 11 point difference with men voters for with trump compared to hillary clinton. you fast forward to 2020 and president biden was only one point behind the former president and recent fox

news poll shows that trump is performing 12 points better. the vice president hairs with men. and when you look at men voters of color black men, young hispanics and under 40, she is not performing as well as she needs to. she has certainly improved her margins with black voters writ large, but she's still far behind. >> you're nodding. >> yeah. i just i she does need to focus on that and i think talking about the economy helps her do that. but to you guys is playing, she doesn't need to talk about her identity. it's very clear she's a black woman. there's nothing she needs to talk about. she can't hide that it's who she is. it's like she's that's who she is. but i also think that secretary clinton she also can talk about the pitfalls of you know, she kind of telegraphed what president trump was going to former president trump was going to do. and no one believed her. so she can get up there and talk about like we were here and we talked about this. and now we thought happened. we don't want to go back to that alright, so all week throughout this convention, donald trump and his running mate, j.d. vance, are going to be out counterprogramming in battleground states today trump and vance are holding two different rallies in different

parts of pennsylvania focused on the economy. tuesday will take them to wisconsin and michigan talking about crime and safety. wednesday, there'll be back in north carolina why not? to talk national security and on thursday, president trump will visit the southern border in arizona while vance campaigns in georgia, the campaign says that these events will be at smaller venues designed to focus in on key policy issues that trump allies believe are the key to retaking the white house his policies are good for america. and if you have a policy debate for president, he wins donald trump, the provocateur provocateur tour, the showman may not win this election. >> so the message is very clear. if you stick to the issues, if you stick to what matters this should be an easy race for donald trump so i will say margaret, when they say that the event is going to be at smaller venue it's typically because it's a lot easier to fill up, said smaller venues now, that said you can see in

this map where are the elections being fought? >> i mean, it's, it's really all if you talk to trump campaign aides, it's all about pennsylvania, right there they're completely zeroed in there and they do still have to lindsey graham's point advantages with voters on issues like immigration and the economy that they can try to take advantage of. now, of course, it's gotten caught up in at trump's personal well attacks. but the bottom line too is that it's very hard to get attention during a convention week like this. >> it is hard to get attention during the convention. and there are many republicans across the country who are advising the former president. please focus on the policy. but he's the one who keeps taking it away from the policy. and i do think whether you have a crowd of 10,000 or a crowd of 100? you can. still go completely off the rails if that's what you decide that you want to do. but i do think one of the elements that is going to be interesting is watching how former president trump, in how senator vance tried to balance out the group's to whom their messaging as well as the geographic places where their messaging we're talking about.

boys versus girls a minute ago one of senator vance is problems is the woman vote right now, quite candidly the effort to trying to bolster or recapture support in georgia is also a dynamic that i think is really interesting the what was the biden-harris ticket and is now the harris-walz ticket does have vulnerability on two issues. one of those issues as inflation on one of those issues is the border. and while we are seeing that american voters don't fully blame vice president harris for all the things that they might not like about what's happened in the last four years the border really is an area where she is vulnerable and that's going to be something that she is going to need to. she'll be she'll be coming out of the defensive on and trump is right to see a vulnerability. >> well, and why do we think he's going to arizona to the border? thursday, so that when the news is covered her acceptance speech, it's him at the border and her here. but

sabrina, this of course while the campaign and the trump campaign, this time around is i has been very focused and disciplined in a way that we didn't see from his previous campaigns necessarily. but again, they went into this saying, we know who our candidate is. we understand kind of how he approaches these things. i think it was clearly easier for them to deal with that when biden was at the top of the ticket. now, of course, with harris trump has been calling her stupid they have been many republicans have been trying to commissioner not to do that. here was the latest round of him doing doing that calling her stupid. this was again in wilkes-barre, pennsylvania on saturday. let's watch we have people that are dead, babies in many ways, i guess this took but you know, people say please don't use bad language please don't call people stupid this stupid people. >> how else do you describe it i want to use a different word, highly a more sophisticated

worth and stupid, but there's no word is the perfect word this stupid people so he's pretty clear about what he thinks there. yes, he is i mean there is no question that having kamala harris at the top of the ticket has been triggering for donald trump. >> i mean, that is the word i've used for weeks here because he keeps going back to these attacks on race, on gender, on her intellect and they just keep being personal attacks when republicans repeatedly are saying publicly that that is not what he needs to be leaning on, that he needs to be focusing on the economy, on immigration, on these issues that clearly, i mean, we see in polling for months that that republicans do better on or trusted more on and donald trump is specifically but he can't help himself. and i think that is where the question is this week as he goes to these events, regardless of the size of the audience, is, will the headline from those events be him talking about these issues? well, the headlines from these

events be him attacking kamala harris and what those attacks look like because they're not scripted they're usually, you know, you see the teleprompter, you see we saw it at the rnc where he has his prepared remarks. and then there's what donald trump wants to say, and there's no one on his campaign and there was no one in the republican party who is going to be able to stop him from doing that. and i think it's a question of discipline. if he decides at some point, okay. i do need to lean in a little more on policy, but the donald trump that we have seen for all these years does lean on those attacks and it's hard to see that changing. >> i keep going back to the maggie haberman and jonathan swan had that piece in the new york times i'm sunday or two ago where he basically acknowledged to the donors. i am who i am. >> yeah, i'm a lot fair enough. >> sabrina rodriguez. thank you very much for your time this morning. i really appreciate it. >> all right. straight ahead here on cnn this morning, a new standard bearer for the democratic party president biden, passing the torch to kamala harris, we're going to talk to a man who knows the president better than most

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now in place along sidewalks and parts of the loop. the gold coast along the magnificent mile pro palestinian protests already crowding the streets of chicago. governor pritzker has deployed 150 members of the state's national guard in a standby role. vice president harris, trying to get ahead of these protests when she campaigned in pennsylvania on sunday i will not speak for him, but i will tell you that these conversations are ongoing and we are not giving up and we are going to continue to work very hard on. >> we got to get a cease and we got to get those sound right. >> our panel's here and we also have joel rubin, he's a democratic strategist, former deputy assistant secretary of state under president obama joel. >> i'll start with you just in terms of what we're expecting from these protesters. >> i know you're actually in touch with a lot of these groups and there is a change in how they are approaching this

because harris is the person that is going to be accepting this nomination. and not president biden, how is that playing out on the ground? >> yeah, that's right. kasie really there's a couple of different lanes now in front of us for these protests, there's the people who are organizing the uncommitted voters and they're going to be participating alongside the convention. they have delegate representatives and have largely expressed support for kamala harris as the nominee. and then separately, there the street protests, much more aggressive strain, and i think we're going to see that split continue. i think it's very important to ensure that there's a policy discussion as there should be about what happens on israel and gaza and how president to be harris will handle that but when it comes to the street protests the danger here is that they can very quickly into hate speech and some of what we saw in

washington, a couple of weeks ago when prime minister netanyahu was in washington, which kamala harris, as vice president, condemned appropriately. so i think that's where this is. it's heading on a sort of pragmatic strain that wants to work to try to shape policy. and then the streets strain, which quite frankly may not really want to listen to any argument that is put forward. >> meghan hays how the convention kind of preparing and differentiating between those two groups and what are you expecting this week i think that people are expecting that the uncommitted voters are coming here and they have the right to voice their opinion. >> the first amendment right is part of our freedoms here and i think that the democratic party welcomes people to express their opinion, unlike the republican party who but donald trump said he would deport protesters. so i think you know, you heard the governor say that the city of chicago is prepared. i think folks are here prepared and expect protests. i think that's just part of being democrats. we're a big tent parties, so i think we're welcoming and inclusive, but i think we'd like to have obviously it'd be peaceful margaret, i mean, we have seen what happened outside union station in washington was i mean, they're painting hamas symbols graffiti and hamas

symbols. >> if that happens here that is going to be something that you're not people aren't gonna able to look away from there these two political concerns, i think for democrats than convention this week. one is do the protests actually like breach into the convention space? are they just literally disrupt the convention but another is if a lot of activity breaks out in the streets, tens of thousands of people how did the police handle it? and does it hurt democrats ability to say that they have public safety under control? trial which has been a liability for them. i have an axios colleague because based in chicago, who has been covering the protests or the pre protests. and i'm talking to her last night about this in her conversations. and astor, do the protesters, she's talking to differentiate between donald trump's policies vis-a-vis israel and the biden and harris administration. and she said they're really saying no, they're saying they're the

same. i think from a messaging perspective, one of vice president harris's goals in the dressing, thousands of americans who feel like could people in the streets is to deal with that as well. >> all right. joe rubin, margaret talev, meghan hays. thank you all very much. shermichael is going to stick with us. i will see you at the top of the hour. all right. coming up here on cnn this morning, some of entertainments, biggest names expected to show up here at the democratic national convention. we're going to take a look at the list of stars expected to voice their support for the harris-walz ticket plus the most important night of kamala harris is political career on the horizon in this week when she accepts the democratic nomination and lays out her vision for america's path forward years from now. >> this moment will have pants just an our children and our grandchildren will look in our eyes. and they're going to ask us, where were you? when the stakes were so high max bundle

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democratic national convention tonight, seven on cnn, and streaming on max it's monday, august 19, right now on cnn this morning, the democratic national convention begins in chicago, where kamala harris will accept her party's nomination for president we are still the party of hope if only we dare hope president biden set to attend his 13th dnc tonight, where he will pass the torch