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election of vice president kamala harris is the next president of the united states. we heard just minutes ago from former first lady michelle obama. and of course then from her husband, former president barack obama firing up delegates tonight as they both spoke about the hope they believe harris is giving to voters and the fears that they have about donald trump potentially returning to the white house what we've seen from kamala harris. the steal of her spine the steadiness of her upbringing, the honesty of her example, and yes, the joy of her laugh sure. are lights we do not need four more years of bluster and bumbling and chaos we have seen that movie before. >> and we all know that the sequel is usually worse the harris camp recruited the vice president's husband, doug emhoff to give her highly

personal speech about his life and his wife, and the love in strength. >> he says, she brings to their blended family kamala harris was exactly the right person for me at an important moment in my life and at this moment in our nation's history, she is exactly the right president vice president harris spoke to delegates from a campaign rally in nearby milwaukee, wisconsin about 90 minutes away after we're very lively ceremonial roll call reaffirming her presidential nomination. kaitlan collins was watching it all from her position on the convention floor. and kaitlan, you're getting some reaction from delegates yeah. >> jake, i mean, we were in the heart of this as we're watching these speeches from the obamas tonight, making the case for vice president harris and minnesota governor tim walz i did not know that latanya raise is from minnesota and is a minnesota delegate, but i saw her during michelle obama's speech. she was on-stage

speaking and you are standing right over there and you just had tears coming out of your eyes. what made you so emotional while you were listening to her? >> first of all, she's a wonderful, beautiful spirit. the words that she said tonight, let us know. we have work to do. we have to go back into our community and we have to organize people to vote. we don't have the opportunity to see on the sidelines. is time for us to go so let's go and i'm energized to go back. >> and what was it about the speech that had you in tears? >> she talked about the experience of women. she talked about the experience of our vice president and how it has been challenging for her. but she said it's time to keep going no matter what you don't give up, you keep pushing. and that's what i want to see advice has been do it spoke to me because it's been difficult in terms of some things i've had to experience as well. so hit home and i think i mean, the crowd went wild when she came out on stage. i know this is your first time actually seeing her speak in parts but i think the loudest applause line that i could hear from standing over here in front of the minnesota delegation was when

she was turning trump's comments back on him and saying that that his comment about black jobs, that the one he's seeking might very we'll very well be a black job. what did you make of that? >> as she said, are black job is voting ice cream so loud and lost my voice by what she said that, that is our job, our ancestors fought for us to be here. we don't have the opportunity to sit on the sidelines and not vote is time for us to get out and show our political power that we are a community that wants to be heard, that we have a right to have a seat at the table is time for us you get up and let's go. >> it's on your raves. thank you very much. thank all of you for sticking around jake back to you all right. >> let's go to mj lee right now and mj, you have some new information about what has been happening behind the scenes. >> yeah, you know, the vice president was returning to chicago after having campaigned in milwaukee earlier in the day, and she was on erin forced too, when her husband, doug emhoff, the second gentleman began speaking at the convention. so the plane actually circled for an extra 15 minutes. we're told in the skies, if she could finish watching his speech. of course,

emhoff, as we saw, leaned into this speech, the idea of this blended family that they have. and he said, what the this president has done for their family is something that he believes she can now do for the country you know, we were watching also the obama's speech from the floor. this is something that the vice president ended up watching from the osprey again, as she was returning from milwaukee, the level of energy, the kinds of things that were being said on the floor completely different energy than i think but we would have seen a number of weeks ago that had to do with of course, the obamas and the celebrity that they bring. but clearly about the fact that this is now a convention that has to do with kamala harris. again, there's just the energy that we saw tonight, just completely different than anything we could have imagined jake even a couple of weeks all right. >> thank you so much. mj tonight, democrats gave a price speaking slot to maryland senate candidate angela alsobrooks. she delivered the keynote speech just as a then rising star named barak obama did 20 years and three weeks ago when he was an illinois state senator here is some of angela alsobrooks remarks

kamala harris knows how to keep criminals off the streets in come november with your help, she'll keep one out of the oval office angela alsobrooks is with cnn's abby phillip on the convention floor. >> abby, jake, i'm here with angela alsobrooks, who by the way is from my home state of maryland, my home county of prince george's county as well. >> i want to get your take on what you heard here. from the former president, former first lady barak, and michelle obama how was it for you to experience that? >> oh, my gosh, she was wonderful. it really was there was excitement and joy in this arena tonight, and i think that really was the message of the first first lady and former president. was that we are already to turn the page that it is tied time, i think as a country that we should move

forward and move out of this era that we've been in one way or the fear it's really gripped the country and so many ways and it really just explaining to us that we do have the opportunity to choose another path and move forward. and that weekend experienced joy again. and so this was a forward looking message. i think one they said also we shouldn't take anything for granted i think that was especially clear is that the democrats were reminded that we're going to have to work for it and we cannot take it for granted. >> so i'm gonna be honest. the state of maryland is not usually a place where we get a lot of political action it's a pretty democratic state, but you are running in one of the most closely watched and competitive senate races. in this cycle, your opponent is republican former governor larry hogan, who called himself a maverick. he has broken with trump, but first of all, does he deserve credit for that? and how do you run against someone who is not a garden variety republican? >> well, you know what i mean?

i think the thing we can't forget when we talk about or maverick is mitch mcconnell is the person who invited my opponent into this race. and what he said was that it was his interests that he would flip the senate, read and thought that maryland was one of the best opportunities that the republican party would have to gain a majority and this is after larry hogan said for many, many months that he had no interest whatsoever and running for the senate at mitch mcconnell's invitation, he came into the race and so we have to take it very seriously because we know that the majority, whoever has the majority in the senate controls the agenda maryland now is central to holding the majority. i believe that that marylanders will look at this race and realized that the supreme court the confirmation of supreme court justices, that committee chair, chairs like the judiciary committee we're lindsey graham would be chair. senate majority leader. these are all decisions that are made on really early on. it's going to be critically important that we're kamala harris who will be our next president. has to have a senate majority in order

to get her agenda forward. and so this is in nobody knows that better than vice president harris because she was a senator and she's been breaking tie-breaking votes for the last three years. you guys go back pretty far. you were both prosecutors she meant toward you as you talked about in your speech? what has it been like for you to see her now suddenly the democratic nominee and to be essentially on the ballot with her to black women in this election cycle. >> oh my god, it's been so powerful and so exciting to see a person that i've come to know who i know to be a very principled deeply principled person. i've had many, many conversations with her and so i feel that i know what her values are. i know how hard she's worked. i know about her record i'm a former prosecutor one of her programs back on track is one of the programs we

replicated in my county. but i know that she's been not only tough, but compassion sinead that she's a person who cares about the progress of every family she's demonstrated it not only as the district attorney, but attorney general. she's been as senators. he's been a vice president. she's served for our country and our families and she's going to continue to do so and we'll be an outstanding president of the united states. >> i called your race competitive, closely watched, but you defied expectations in the democratic the primary you ran well ahead of where people thought you would run in that primary, is your race being underestimated right now? >> well, you know what we worked really hard in the primary. i'm working hard in this phase two, we will take nothing for granted. we have worked seven days a week over the last year-and-a-half. i'm going to continue to do that through november 5. i understand the stakes of this election. it's about the future of our children it's about having choice. thehoe in the freedom and privacy to make her own healthcare decisions. and we know that republicans don't share this view we know as well that we're gun safety is concerned, making sure that we are no longer

allowing gun violence to be the number one killer of children in our country. so these issues are ones that are front and center. i'm going to fight hard because we're going to we're going to win this election november. and it's going to be important to have the majority. so we're not taking anything for granted. the primary as you mentioned, was a tough one as well, but maryland is a very savvy and. they will decide, i believe, to keep the muddied majority and democratic hands, but we're going to have to work hard to make sure that it happens. >> all right. angela also brooks from jake, gorgeous prince george's, as we said, george's county hello, back to you. >> all right? >> two planes from pgc, much more of our coverage from the dnc in chicago ahead up next jfk's grandson, jack schlossberg is going to join us. he address the convention earlier so here tonight, stay with us cnn's harry enten. >> we got a race for the ages

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two presidents, jimmy carter and john f. kennedy are the president's here the grandchildren. listen to jfk's grandson, jack schlossberg tonight jfk is call to action is now hours to answer because once again, the torch has been passed to a new generation to a leader who shares my grandfather's energy, vision, and optimism for our future. >> that leader is vice president kamala harris and we're joined now by jack schlossberg, who is a delegate from new york state, dana. nice to see you. great to great to have you here. that is a pretty big statement. from you, the grandson of jfk, to say that the torch has been passed to the woman running on the democratic ticket. >> now, i think this is a thank you for having me. i think this is a historic election and i could not be more excited about kamala harris's candidacy. i think it is a really big moment

for our country and that's why i chose that language. >> yeah. >> you are somebody who it has made your own name for yourself on social media, especially, you do some unorthodox videos, right? >> character first of sorts, characters of sorts exactly you obviously understand. maybe more than the two of us. >> i'll speak for my salary much more than me. how this campaign in particular, you said you're kind of on the young side of the millennial generation, but blame and gen z in particular is really using the mode of communication that you are using online can you just kind of describe how you think that they're doing and maybe what they could do more of well, i think they the harris campaign is doing a great job with social media. >> i think that young people are like all other people and they need to be given i mean, to be equipped with good arguments and reasons to vote for a candidate. and i think on social media, there's an opportunity to do that and authentic waves and to give

people the chance to tell the difference between someone who is genuine or not. and i think people are really smart and my generation is good at telling the difference. and so i think that people young, young viewers, i think reward people who take risks, and i think vice president harris walks the walk and talk the talk in terms of young people and what they care about. and so i'm feeling good about it. >> you. had a chance to meet with former house speaker nancy pelosi yesterday. we're going to show some pictures of you guys meeting yesterday. she talks quite a bit about your grandfather and her memories let's look at such a sweet fixture. >> she talks about being at your grandfather's inauguration in 1961 fun obviously, people might not know this, but nancy pelosi is herself, the product of a democratic royalty. >> her father was the mayor of baltimore. what what did she tell you in that meeting? did she talk about being there and 61 and all all that?

>> well, you know, this convention is so incredible. i walk in the door and i just happened to run into speaker pelosi, who i who is a hero of mine who i think is the most significant, important woman in american political history. and i think that she's the backbone of this party. so it was such an honor to meet her and it was complete happenstance and we just told each other that we really care about each other. and i told her that she meant a lot to me and she has said some nice things about my grandfather. >> do you sense i know that you're supportive of the accomplishments of president biden, but do you sense at the democratic party? when it comes to enthusiasm, when it comes to young voters, are in a better place now than a couple of months ago. >> i think absolutely great place. now. i think young people are going to take this election over young people are going to take kamala harris over the finish line and we're going to win this election i feel confident that's pretty confident statement absolutely. >> how do you see do you see it online? >> do you see it go out everyone's pumped about this. >> we're going to elect an

amazing president, the first female president ever young people are excited, they get, they understand the picture there is a complicated, i've heard some people talk about the fact that despite the fact that there's a huge presence online, that what you're talking about concern that it's almost too much online to make sure that that is translated to boots on the ground and getting people out to vote. >> are you going to be involved in that? >> i'd love to be i would absolutely love to be. i'll do anything i can to help the campaign. i think it's not an either or it's both of you need both social media and boots on the ground operation and whatever i can do to help, i would love to help you obviously are very well aware of your cousin, rfk junior's campaign. >> he has been flirting with the idea of endorsing donald trump you obviously do not want donald trump to be president again, give a message too. >> i think my cousin should do whatever he thinks is the best interests of our country that's it. >> what if it's endorsing trump well, then we would disagree about what the

interests of our country, our but that's his decision okay. thank you so much for being here. really appreciate it. >> thanks. loss for goodness sake. you. thanks so much. anderson thanks so much. we were just talking about we've been talking about the obama's speeches. i won't do want to talk about doug emhoff speech a little bit because he did something which i've never really seen the spouse of a kennedy do so effectively. i just want to play some sort of his storytelling about their relationship in a way that was very quirky and humble and well-told. so let's watch now for generations people have debated when to call the person you're being set up with. and never in history has anyone suggested 8:30 am yeah that's when i dial i got kamala's

voicemail and i just started rambling hey, it's doug i'm on my way to an early meeting again and it's doug. i remember i was trying to grab the words out of the air and just put them back into my mouth and for what seemed like fargo too many minutes, i hung up by the way kamala's save that voice-mail and she makes me listen to it on every anniversary i'm sorry i mean, he did something which michelle obama also did brilliantly well, which is not get intimidated by the hall and talk to shout into the hall. yes. but just to talk like a regular human being and talked through the camera to people at home. >> the most valuable commodity

in communications at this level is just genuineness, authenticity, the you had the sense that he was sharing stories with you that were real and authentic. and he did an incredible amount of work for her in that speech because he told stories about her that really adds he did some depth, two peoples understanding of who she is as a human being. and he was completely credible doing it and he was self-effacing and winning. he did not look like a politician making a speech. he looked like a regular guy can sharing stories about a white, any doubt whom he was really, really proud. >> and i mean, no vans other because falses, but he also did not look like a political spouse? yes. making a speech that somebody had sort of helped him with me. i felt like something was opening up in terms of a permission structure to be a man like to be a man

just completely in love with this woman to be able to be jokey about it. you don't have to be the straw you know, like that's i haven't seen that before, haven't seen before from any male political spouse. and i thought it opened up space in the culture you can just be head-over-heels, stupid, and love and talk about it in an honest way and be appreciative of what she's doing he was so appreciative of what she was doing for his family, but he was doing his children that she didn't bear that she bears up it was really i thought i thought something happened in the culture tonight around doug. >> i think it's interesting the way they're portraying him. first of all, it think self-deprecation here's a powerful communications device. >> it works for him his name is doug, so it's sort of it's like if it works but the situation he's in and the democrats are in trying to introduce a presidential spouse

to the country we haven't done this before. >> when hillary clinton was running, we were introducing the old president. to the country it, so we knew bill clinton we don't know doug and they started introducing been i thought i thought it worked actually, i thought the video worked. i thought the self-doubt. i mean, look, we'll leave aside doug's dalliances that have been in the news for another conversation, but but overall i thought i thought the way he handled it, it was funny. the hall responded. it was it was a good way to portray it he wasn't they weren't really i mean, fundamentally, it wasn't about introducing doug to the country. it was about dug in introducing kamala to the country. >> i hear you, but i also think that the first spouses play such an integral role in our presidency. i mean, we have elevated the role of first spouse. it's always first lady's, but we've elevated the role of first best to a very elevated position. they have platforms like we do want to know, like a cabinet position can we just to follow

up on what you had to say there is a gender gap in the voting population. >> we know that, we know it's growing. when you look at some aspects of the pro trump internet, it is a great deal about masculinity and how it's performed. and there's a lot of conversation about a figure like being talked about like as a beta or something i think like that both tim walz and doug is wrong calling him. here are presenting a vision of manhood that democrats can get behind in an era when a lot of people talk about how it can be diminishing to be a young man and the culture that you don't see it, you can't be talked about by feminists in a way that feels empowering and they both on stage kind of display support while still retaining the parts of themselves or that are about strength. >> it's also such a contrast to i mean, obviously donald trump and his relationship and even just the portrayal that

the former first lady, melania trump, has chosen to sort of how she chosen, chooses to portray herself in the public it's just the stark contrast could not be any much accordin part of the gop platform that is about the nuclear family the family, as americans have understood it for a very long time, j.d. vance is a great example of this. that's but because we're in a modern era where a blended family like the harris emma family, is the norm. it feels harsh on the ear. that's why this childless snus stuff, this cat lady stuff. it is falling thank flat because people look around and they're like that's not the world we live in. >> it's worth noting that melania trump didn't speak a word at the republican convention, coming up more on the obamas convention speeches and what they plan to do now to help kamala harris win the white house recovers can you just after this break holding

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barak obama, as well as former first lady michelle obama was going to cnn's jeff zeleny. so jeff, after the obamas spoke at the convention on what are they planning to do next to campaign. >> i understand hearing that the obamas work did not end here tonight. both a former president barack obama and first lady michelle obama have pledged to the harris campaign to do whatever they need over the next 11 weeks to campaign. and that is no small thing. i'm told that just yesterday in chicago, the former president recorded some videos for the harris campaign and he is willing to go on the road and campaign with her whatever they need. but talking to an advisor this evening after the speech, he says this, they are all in you saw that here tonight and anderson, from my position here on the podium, i could see behind stage and watching former president barak obama watch his wife onstage, watching michelle obama on stage. this is not a speech that she wanted to give. we heard her say that at the very beginning, but she said she felt compelled to do so. and the harris campaign believes

that her argument, her testimonial onstage tonight about what her family went through and what she sees for the country and her lessons about how this race is not over by any stretch of the imagination. they believe that that is a powerful message because she does not oohs politics. she rarely does speeches like this. it's been almost eight years since we've seen it. the harris campaign believes that her speech is perhaps the most powerful. but in the weeks to come, the former president, maybe the most help hopeful on the campaign trail. >> jeff johnston, thanks so much back with the panel also, john king let's talk about the obama coalition and what it looked like and what they may bring to this. >> so let me start to understand what david axelrod's favorite map this is the 22008 president that should election barack obama first win. i want to go through these elections and then i'll bring up some numbers for you. i want to make this point first though, every election is different, every candidate is different. and when you talk about the 2008 coalition versus the 2024 race, we have to

remember the populations in a lot of these states have changed as well. but but what happened here when barak obama won in 2008, he won. let me get that to stop. there we go. he won north carolina. he won ohio. he won indiana. he won iowa he won these two here, new mexico and colorado. anyone, nevada, why did i circle those states? because george w bush had won all of those states just four years before that so when you flip something like that, that's a movement that's a big coalition to flip states like that. so let's turn this off and let's come forward here. this one's a little tricky tonight. try it down here. there we go. now let's come forward to 2012. what happened in 2012? obama gave back indiana and north carolina. i'll explain more detail in a moment. but what happened there, african american turnout dropped just a little bit. that was the key to both of those states. and obama's performance in the suburbs dropped a little bit. then you come forward to this, look at how much more red just popped there's 2012 watched the midwest. here's 2016,

hillary clinton not only lost the blue wall states of pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, but iowa and ohio also went republican, right? big struggles, they're now we fast forward to 2020. and joe biden, you see a lot more blue come in here. not only does he win the blue wall, but he wins two states. obama did not win. he wins georgia, and he wins arizona. so now let's get into the why. first, let's bring this up and show number one for democrats to foundational base of the party is black voters. first i'm going to stretch this out in a moment. i'll shrink it. look what happened in 2008, 95% of the african-american vote high turnout. and most of them going for barack obama 2012, at def, just a little bit. that's why he suffered a little bit. 2016, hillary clinton got 89%, not a bad number. she's not barack obama, not a bad number. but it wasn't enough. we know that in michigan and wisconsin, and in pennsylvania, as well, joe biden actually got a smaller share of the black vote in 20 2087. so how did he win? let me shrink this down and bring this over. this is the point about coalitions are different

everyone focuses on 2008 and obama share of the black vote and don't get me wrong. it was critically important, but let me bring this in underneath and we'll look at these as we go through these two maps. 2008, 95% of the black vote, obama also won the suburbs are tied in the suburbs, 50%. 2012, romney picks up those other two states. so it's not as big of an obama win, but still a convincing win. huge share of the black vote breaks even in the suburbs loses the suburbs by just a little bit. look what happened to hillary clinton her black vote share drops and she loses the suburbs. that's, you can't win. you can't win. that's why those states go away from you. also, white working class voters, i'll show you that in a second. we're a factor as well. so biden gets a smaller percentage of the black vote, but still has a very convincing electoral college went and flips georgia and arizona. why? 54% in the suburbs, he won by even a bigger margin than barak obama in america is growing suburbs, especially in the sunbelt states, just bring, to bring this in with trump on the ballot. this also matters more because trump has exacerbated

this. it started in the romney election. he also made up some ground among white working class voters. but look at the difference. hillary clinton gets 28 percent white voters without a college degree. joe biden gets 33%. you say, oh, that's only five points. that was pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. so coalitions are complicated. but if you are kamala harris, you want to start with this can she get that above 90%? and that if she gets that percentage, can she also get the turnout that's what those speeches are about tonight. go home and work. can you get that? but even then, in many states that won't be enough, you still gotta win the suburbs fasten. you see there's members, david. >> yeah, john you one thing that you didn't talk about was what obama obama got among those non-college whites. and he actually outperformed biden in those areas. and it's one of the reasons why he was able to carry on jannik, by the way, that 2008 map is my screensaver. i just know that

and so the question is, you know, in some of these polls that we're seeing lately from the battleground state, she's showing a larger number among non-college whites. then you good expect, and the question is, is that real? and is it possible to get those voters the economic message that they're promoting is one that's aimed at those voters are some of those voters, working class voters generally, question is, can that part is, are we so polarized? now? and is trump so galvanizing among those voters that it's impossible that get those voters back take to win them is probably impossible one cycle for democratic obama level. >> yeah, but again, you're in these states here where pennsylvania, for example, won by 81,000 votes, right? so it's about the margins. can you get your share biden? did better i come out to wisconsin won by 20,000 votes by joe biden and hillary clinton, 20,000 votes. joe biden, 22,000 votes. donald trump. these we're gonna go through this same thing again in these

states. don't anticipate a blow. so the question is, can you improve your margins just a little bit? that's the challenge for harris and right now, the republicans are saying he's on a sugar high. i think one of the advantages here is not only is a democrats go second with the convention being second, this is also a very late convention, so you only have 11 weeks to the election. can donald trump get back into this race and change perceptions or can she get ahead of him to compete in the margins that is the communications challenge. scott was saying earlier about the democrats is that a good night tonight? if the democrats can have a good night wednesday night, thursday, you continue. what is momentum for now? and then you leave your convention and you've got ten weeks to go and you see john. >> i think that the reason she is up a bit in the national polls right now is because she effectively occupies generic democrat that's where biden had fallen way off off of that. he was performing well under what you would expect a democrat to do in a lot of places and with a lot of groups, she's now basically restored that where do you think that she is most

susceptible? what subgroups and maybe even in what pockets of states to being dragged back into something less. i mean, if trump ends up running against just avatar generic democrat, it's dicey. but if he ends up running against something that is portrayed as dangerous, or radical, that's where i think the magic of obama was in a way. and i know the right caricatures him as an extreme liberal, but he kind of ran to put words in his mouth. but my recollection is sort of ran as a moderate non-threatening democrat. no aid isn't that her challenge to not be defined down as a radical? and how long do you think it's possible to maintain that should of generic field yes. >> to not be defined down, to not be dukakis or mondale and push so far left that you can't win the country that's certainly a challenge. number one, number two, to your point about the polling, i find what's most interesting. the polling is once biden stepped aside, a lot of people were unhappy with trump, the trump-biden choice. the third party numbers were way up. if you come over here, this is march that's robert kennedy and purple 11%. the other third-party candidates getting

two or 3%. look what has changed? >> trump's still in the race, but after the harris changed, trump numbers are actually up a little bit. >> you see the red ticking up a little bit because we're gone back to a more traditional race in 2016, 6% of the vote went to the third party candidates, hillary clinton lost 2% of the vote, went to third party candidates in 2020. where are we going to end up? that's another question as we watch harris and trump go forward. where did a third party candidates go wires the kennedy campaign, or at least his vice presidential candidates saying, we might get out, endorse trump in part because their numbers are going down. the numbers going down there. to the other point, i think we talk about moderate, liberal this, that what does the electorate want? from my travels, i can tell you the electorate wants change. the question is you said earlier she's with the incumbent administration, donald trump was the last president. which one of them can say, i'm the change, right now, harris is making that case. can she sustain it up next the historic nature of this convention. tonight, speeches and we'll look ahead to the line of speakers tomorrow this election season,

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knocks training camp with the chicago bears, streaming exclusively on max yes, she ca n democrats chanting. >> yes, she can. on the second night of their convention, obviously harking back to the yes, we can made famous by then candidate obama 2008, the party rallying around kamala harris after truly historic month and up into the race for the white house joining us now political story and a cnn contributor leah wright, rigueur. it's great to have you here it was fascinating to see. i mean, just the brilliance of michelle obama's speech. and also obviously, to see the former president obama, what did you

make of there? speeches tonight so we are living through history that is the most remarkable part. >> and i think there's no one better to tell this story than the obamas because they did it the first time around may became the first black family first african-american family in the white house they lived through it 8:00 terms and here they are essentially ushering in another moment for someone else who's going to be a historic and historical first. so we're living through this. we're all getting to experience this together. but it's also true i think part of what the obamas are trying to do and part of what they tried to do is establish that this is built on the legacies people that came before the movements that came before them, institutions and experiences that came before them. so it is history as it's happening, but it's also built on these multiple histories. >> and in particular we saw the reverend jesse jackson yesterday in the crowd. a lot of people point back to his campaign's obviously in the i

guess it was early 80s. >> absolutely. and they have a tremendous impact. and i think it's not just about here, we're going to recognize jesse jackson. we're going to give him his flowers. but instead to acknowledge that much of the strategy that we see, not just in kamala harris going forward, kamala harrison and tim walz but also that the strategy that we see in the obamas is built on jesse jackson's blueprint, the rainbow coalition write that speech he gives in 1984, 1984 democratic national convention, where he says, we are all god's children but we have to have an inclusive ten were rainbow nation, whether we'd be indigenous, black, latino, asian women, poor working class, elite educated uneducated. that if we come together and we form this alliance that we can have, we can have they kind of nation that we've only dreamed about, the kind of policies that would be great for all americans and it's a moment of tremendous unity for the democratic party.

but we also see that even though in at, for the democrats lose and 88, they also lose even though they're using, trying to use the rainbow coalition that it's that idea that blueprint that barak obama uses in 2008. and 2012. and that kamala harris is using in 2024. >> leah wright rigueur, and it's great to have you good to be here. jake, back to you right now. i want to get a fact check of what we heard from the stage tonight. let's bring in cnn senior reporter daniel dale daniel, there are a lot of assertions made on the stage behind me. >> what did you think i thought they were very few false or misleading claims tonight, i heard a lot of factual statements, subjective opinions, personal stories, uncheckable predictions obviously will not try to fact-check little john, but there was at least a smattering of material. >> so let's look at a couple of claims. listen to something that's senator bernie sanders said about the situation when president biden took office remember where we were, 3.5 years ago? we are in the midst

of the worst public health crisis in 100 years and the worst economic downturn since the great depression 3,000 americans were dying every day and our hospitals were overwhelmed with covid patients unemployment was soaring that was the reality the biden-harris administration face as they entered the oval office? a good chunk of that was true, but the center's claim that biden and harris face soaring unemployment when they took office three-and-a-half years ago is false. unemployment did soar four and-a-half years ago at the beginning of the pandemic, march and april 2020, it spike to 14.8%, but it then started quickly coming down. it had fallen away down to six 0.4% in

january 2021, the month biden was sworn in. so they inherited an elevated but declining unemployment rate, not assorting one. now, listen to this claim from illinois governor jb pritzker during covid, we supported small businesses and jobs. and donald well, donald told us to inject bleach misleading. >> yes, donald trump did make ill-informed remarks. we remember at a covid press briefing in april 2020, wondering about whether scientists could somehow test or study the possibility of treating the virus by injecting, disinfectant into people? yes, those comments prompted household disinfectant companies to warn people not to try them at home but pritzker was still exaggerating like president biden has been making similar claims recently. trump never actually advised americans to go inject bleach. and before democrats scoff, people can go watch the tape for themselves. it shows trump was musing to a government science official about doctors,

experts, looking into the possible use of disinfectants. he never said eriksen's should go inject themselves. jake all right. >> daniel, dale, thanks so much really appreciate it back. you're with dana and abby. and we were all talking during the commercial break about one of the interesting things that president obama did while michelle obama, the first lady for red meat to the crowd and a lot of ways, although cautioning them that there was going to be a lot of hard work president obama did as he is his want tried to appeal to democrats to not talk down to people who don't agree with them when it comes to trump not just convert people, converted voters for the election, but also just in getting along with people. let's run some of that if a parent or grandparent occasionally says something that makes us cringe we don't automatically assume they're bad people we recognize that

the world is moving fast that they need time and maybe a little encouragement to catch up our fellow citizens deserve the same grace. >> we hope they'll extend to us that's how we can build a true democratic majority. pretty interesting comments from president obama and abby, it's one of the things that i think we see so much of in public life today is nobody giving anybody the benefit of the doubt nobody ever just assuming the best about somebody or let me explain into this person my point of view just immediately just crushing them, especially on social media. >> can i just say the quiet part that he did not say is he's talking about canceled culture. that is what he is

talking about. i think he sees the perverse incentives of social media to kind of make people think that if someone makes a mistake, someone says the wrong word that they ought to be forever banished called a terrible person viewed as evil, racist, whatever it is, he's talking about. that that is a tough message. i'm gonna be honest for his party right now. there are a lot of people in today's democratic party who do not believe that, who do believe that there are bad people and bad people should be always called out. and that there isn't grace that is deserved for people who make mistake or don't know, or don't understand. i think obama understands that that's a tough message and that's why he delivered it on the stage because i think he believes that that is the path to democrats, not just winning but re engineering american politics for a post trump era. i mean, biden thought he would

get a post-trump era four years ago. he didn't get that because fundamentally, the country didn't really change. but i think obama is trying to deliver a message about that. and there's something else that i gleaned from that listening to it again, just now, which is going back to the obama era. and it was that era things were changing very quickly, not only the obvious, which is there was a black president for the first time in american history but socially, culturally things were happening. same-sex marriage things were becoming more for acceptable to many people. and that really did scare a lot of maybe he say older people, people who didn't, wasn't they weren't quite there yet culturally or within their families even. and so i think for the most part, he was definitely talking about social media and the here and the now. but i also was thinking about how people, a lot of people who were not comfortable with the

quick changes recoiled and perhaps we're looking for an alternative and that alternative was donald trump. >> another example of this, by the way, is when president obama said that kamala harris was the best looking attorney, general in california, might've gotten canceled well, i mean, he's lucky, he was barack obama, somebody else saying that in 2013 or in 2023 might not have survived the great talking to you guys, the democrats are rolling out more big name speakers at the convention tomorrow night, including former house speaker needs pelosi, transportation secretary pete buttigieg, former president bill clinton. and of course, minnesota governor tim walz is going to accept his nomination as vice president on thursday. of course, kamala harris will be center stage. the vice president closing the convention with her most important speech. yet as the democrats, new presidential nominee, you'll see it all on cnn live. laura coates picks up our convention coverage at the cnn grill after this quick break, we'll see you there's

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take it from an tul, yet this rich in only one tht'stupidity doors, trump mocks his supporters he calls them basement dwellers. you know that laugh. i loved that i love you so much wonderfully magical is in the air, isn't it? >> america hope is making a comeback because what it for a new chapter, a man, because what a better story we are ready for president kamala harris all rig.

>> it is midnight here in the shy as night who of thdnc has come to a close? i'm laura coates inside the united center with cnn's continuing coverage of a democratic national convention. and we've been hearing it for days now. b the harris campaign has those 2008 yes, we can v. his only one man who can really about r that and tell you if it's true. and tonight the party the country will they heard fr him directly? but this time it was yes. she can. the 44th president of the united states, barack obama, delivering an electrifying speech before his hometown chicago crowd look. and of course, not to be forgotten, his first lady, these grabbed retires, the loves of their

life will talk about her speech. it just a moment. >> we'll look at biden got a hero's welcome. this may have been the main street parade with the fireworks as well because he warned that when it came to a trump administration, we've seen this movie before. and the sake walz, he warned, are always worse. he told them america is ready for a better story. one written by, you guessed it, vice president kamala harris, his speed and endorsement was a true full circle moment. you see, then district attorney harris was one of his very first support quarters during his 2008 run. it back here, she is a new year's eve in a cold iowa campaign office before going to knock door-to-door for who then senator barack obama, well, tonight, he he returned the favor we are ready for president kamala harris. >> and kamala harris is ready

for the job. >> she won't just cater to her own supporters and punish those who refused to kiss the ring or bend the knee show work on behalf of every american now you heard obama, they're not really pulling any punches when it comes to donald trump to comparisons we're quite clear in the split-screens intended to be evident, but it was his wife, the former first lady, michelle obama, who delivered what might arguably one of the most powerful and one of the most blistering speeches against donald trump wrapped up business if we make up the business or choke in a crisis, we don't get a second, third, fourth chance if things don't go our way we don't have the luxury of whining or cheating others to get further ahead

know we don't get to change the rules, so we always win if we see a mountain in front of us, we don't expect there to be an escalator went into degas to the top well, it seems quite clear what she wanted to say. i want to bring in cnn political commentator and former deputy assistant to president joe biden, jamal simmons is here distinguished professor of african american and diaspora studies at vanderbilt university. michael eric dyson, cnn political commentator karen finney and deputy campaign manager for governor ron desantis, his presidential campaign. david polyansky, i'm so glad all of you all are here. look, it might be empty behind me, but there are still vibrations going through this hall. i mean, this was a moment that people were waiting for there was a nostalgia, there was a palpable energy, but there was also an intention to more than past this torch jamal, it was intended for people to remember, obviously

the hometown kids. so we say, but also to pass that torch to harris, how effective was tonight and getting that job done? >> oh, i think that president obama did exactly what he was supposed to do, which is set up vice president harris as the person who is going to be the one to carry this party forward as well as he did. he connected it to policy. he went after trump, a click policy talks about the vice president's policies but michelle obama though like me, michel i mean, she just came in and out. what do we've seen her. let's throw that shade at anybody before, and she just kinda trump apart brick by brick by brick. and she talked about her own feelings. you talked about, you know, still wrestling with loss of her mom because she let people know. so wrestling with where we are with democracy and she really laid it out and i got to tell you as a former communications director to the vice president, i think they did a good job in scheduling

because they have the vice president coming on thursday night. so we got a night off. right. so we had a night to have some blistering commentary, then we got another night coming and then we'll see the vice president get up and do what she does. it's also be great, but you won't have to be compared to what happened. >> well, speaking of scheduling and night's all, let's talk about black jobs back. >> let's hear what the former first lady had to say about how she felt about a phrase like that undermining the success i have some for years donald trump did everything in his power to try to make people fear us see here's his limited narrow view of the world made him feel threatened by the existence of two hard work and highly educated, successful people happen to be black, who's going to tell him that the job he's currently seeking might just be one of those black jobs yes, she had most

shade then you night curtain when i look at the obamas, a kind of double-headed fountain of black oratorical genius, each in their own way, pace and cadence michelle obama was james baldwin indicting the system with searing poetry. i think kefir burns texted me and said the great poet that she, she gave, it wasn't a speech, it was an epic poem that she laid out. and she did. but if she was james baldwin, then her husband was thurgood marshall. he's got to prosecuting the case. he's got to lay it out. that's not as exciting as what she did, but you've got to carefully deconstruct what happened or if we change musical terms she was louis armstrong, a blistering, brilliant solo. and he was duke ellington trying to bring together the various parts of the symphony what are to represent a whole but at the end of the day, they just cold

blooded with their black oratorical genius and to see that on display for the nation and to be free of the encumbrance of office, there was something free about them, not having the obligation to toe the line to when they go low, we go high she just said, i'm going to do what i gotta do. to and he laid it out in such beautiful terms that it was good to breathe the air of their freedom because they helped liberate us as well. >> yeah, that's really striking to make that comparison because remember, last night you heard from secretary hillary clinton, he spoke about shattering of glass ceiling and that she saw what on the other side she saw freedom and what there's talking about, there is something that we saw that was freeing is i think for both of them no longer to be tethered to their political roles, although their roles within the party are still quite, quite influential no doubt, absolutely. >> and look, they both acknowledge that they are willing to get out there and do the work. and part of the assignment tonight which they

both did beautifully. she i have to be honest a little. she was just brilliant. i mean, just dropped the mic brilliant in part because she made it personal. i think this goes with dr. tyson is talking about dyson. sorry just brilliantly made it part i mean, when she said they tried to make people afraid of us that is how i felt all four years of donald trump that he was trying to make white people afraid of me because of my skin color. and so many and thinking about friends of mine who are latino, who felt that way when or muslim americans and just the divisiveness and the rhetoric and the fact that he's gone back to it just with reckless abandon in ways that are dangerous. and he put her children in danger with that rhetoric. and you could just feel it felt to me she was like, if i'm going to get dressed up and get my makeup on and put my shoes on and come

out here i'm going to tell you what i think but both of them the last thing i'll just say, president obama. yes. he prosecuted the case. he laid it out, but they both in their own way said, but don't be fooled. we've got work to do, right? this is not going to be easy and we can't get caught up on. we can't let perfect the enemy of the good. and we got to straight talk. we got to focus on the angle you because it yesterday we were having a conversation i remember you were critical of president biden and being able to accomplish a mission of understanding and completing the assignment that his tone, but not necessarily match the enthusiasm of joy going forward what did you make of the combination of these two speeches? and frankly, let's not forget about second gentleman, doug emhoff also spoke. so although i may i don't know what to say. >> gentlemen, first lady, i just think he married to a

black you say a double-headed found in the or tropical changes what did you think about that collected that did you feel as though they understood the assignment or are there some shortcomings that you think that can be exploited by the trump campaign and counter counterprogramming, while both look we saw that here tonight, they were the right messengers driving the right message for this crowd. in this audience. and the base. and so, not only talking about and painting a picture for people that were in this audience are back at home that want to go out and indoor walk for democrats. that was the incredibly powerful message today will it impact undecided voters in the seven swing states? >> i don't know. i mean, at the end of the day, i think president obama did a good job recognizing that people roaster will still hurting economically. i think we saw that missing yesterday. but at

the end of the day, people are still worrying what about feeding their kids, putting food on the table, put sending them to school. they're still worried about crime and the border. and everything that comes in between. and i'm not sure pointing the finger at donald trump for what's happened over the last four years is going to fly. and so i think they understood their mission. they did have incredible job but at the end of the day, when we all go home, at the end of this week, it's going to be a tied race and it's going to be up to the vice president and donald trump to make that case to voters in those seven states. >> well, as you know second fair amount monitoring is obviously not a policy complaining about fearmongering is also not sufficient policy, but they both are two sides of a coin. i think any voters are thinking about, but just to further talk about a famous phrase, i want you to weigh in on this. of course, jamal, that president obama spoke about the circular firing squad. he was warning back just several years ago about democrats not eating their own. how often have you heard this phrase? well, the former first lady michelle obama what was also urging

democrats in this speech tonight not to undermine their own potential success. listen what she said jamal we cannot get a goldilocks complex about whether everything has just right we can no are anxieties about whether this country will look somewhat like kamala instead of doing everything, we can to get someone like kamala elected i have to laugh a little bit at busy philipps are faced with kind of like around right. we thought you busy. we get it what do you make of that and that was laci swore to his next terms have a very, a very good time. >> it was very important about making the perfect the enemy of the good. and one thing that's been happening over the last few weeks, i think those of us

are watching this maybe get a little concerned about there is this euphoria that is coming around the vice president and it is excitement and everybody is into it. but one thing that number we saw a number. >> she had an economic number that gained before she ever put an economic plan out. >> this is telling you that people have something they're really invested in about her. and they see her as something that's that's there for them so many people may be reading something of their own into her before they actually hear her speak which is a great place to be in politics. the nervousness is when somebody says something that counters that when the republicans drop an avalanche of, an avalanche of negative media on her, and we started to hear things that maybe don't line up with what we thought we were going to get when we act. kamala harris, then people start to move away from that. and i think what they said tonight was very important. you're going to hear things. they're going to come for her. they're going to try to make this about her and make it negative. we can't fall for it. don't make goldilocks decisions. this is about

sticking to the plan, do the work is get her elected. >> we have more to talk about this and of course, a lot of that is kind synonymous with don't judge me by against the almighty. but by the alternative, it's so funny how were they say? it's only likely seven plot lines and the history of all storytelling. similar for politics, everyone standby. now i want to bring in cnn's harry enten. he is live at the cnn-politico grill. harry, what is going on at that growth tonight? >> it is absolutely bonkers even more filled than last night. and of course we have the celebrities coming on and i got my friend over here, come over here, chris mudd, taski, for those of you who don't know, is on the bear, he played as pete now, i will say the buret is a little strong for me, but my girlfriend makes me watch it. so i have watched it. were in chicago right here. >> what risks? >> i called you pete because i get confused. i get confused sometimes characters and the people that they like or the people that play the character.

so what are you thinking about? what's going on here in the a dnc night number two. press well, so i'm here on behalf of the creative coalition, were fighting for better funding for the arts and schools and stuff. but i got to tell you hear it is an honor to be talking to you because you are my by far favorite guy on cnn oh, yes. and i'll tell you why. because you got good dick thank this guy has great shtick. >> okay and that guy that's gonna get your bar in this business tapper, be blitzer, get lost harrys the guy laura laura, i think i got to put that on my resume so let me ask you you're insured we're all enjoying the time i am especially enjoying this segment so far, mitch mr. witkoff how how's the energy feeling here? huge. i was i had the honor of being in there tonight and man michelle barack, they tore the roof off of that place. there hasn't

been that kind of energy in the united states center since jordan and pippin and rodman, we're running up and down the court. it was awesome. >> well, let me just say we've got a jordan pip and right here and i am going to toss it back to maybe rodman. i don't know. you want to play dennis rodman low? >> laura robson i take that back, center i was the first president of the sky if it was bad club, just saying, wow but wow i'm shocked. i liked you know, republicans did night crossing into what should be hostile territory and critics so i their own party for bowing to donald trump. no one who spoke on the dnc stage, mayor john giles of mesa, arizona republican he's my guest next

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joins me now mayor, thank you for joining very strong and passionate speech that you gave this evening. i do wonder what the response has been over time. this is not the first instance we've heard you describe your disaffection in part with the party that now is what has been the response from your fellow republicans about your position now? >> well, it's been mixed certainly folks that are in the leadership of what's now the republican party have been very critical and i've been officially censured by the party but i've been also taken back by the positive response i've gotten from my friends and neighbors who very much identify with this notion that the political middle is no longer represented by the republican party people like kari lake literally are telling us to get the hell out of the room and arizona so the republican party is shrinking the tent is getting smaller and smaller. and i think everyone with the exception of maybe some of the party leadership, sees that that is a spiral that

is not healthy for the future of the republican party. >> if they're republican middle is without a home. do you find that home in the demo? craddock party or just some find that home on the couch? >> well, that's the fear in and that's really my message is to tell, to tell people that feel maybe a little homeless politically that sitting this out is not an option if you come to the determination that you can't support donald trump for president you really need to look very seriously at a voting for kamala harris the sitting it out is really a vote for donald trump. >> there were somebody else, former trump white house press secretary, stephanie grisham. she also spoke the dnc and she last heard her former boss listen to what she had to say behind closed doors, trump mocks his supporters. >> he calls them basement dwellers. >> he has no empathy no morals and no fidelity to the truth

when you hear that, of course, i do wonder, is that going to be something that will resonate with voters who are wondering where their home is, wondering whether they should support donald trump would hearing that from someone like her change or influence their mind yes. i mean, i'd like i said, i'm getting an overwhelming response from rank and file middle of the road, politically app, middle people. but of course, donald trump is renaud has this hardcore base that we'll hear that nothing will face them and so that's right now the direction of the party more and more mainstream people, more and more politically middle people are just choosing to not swim upstream. and the republican party and there becoming independence and arizona for example, there's as many independents as there are republicans or democrats and that's the phenomenon that donald trump has created with the exodus from the republican party. >> that's striking given the swing-state nature. and of

course, all eyes on arizona but it's also striking, of course, is there are some who are voting on issues, whether it's been productive rights or health care, or the more broad economy where are the issue of immigration, which i know is very important in your state. and frankly, more states across the country, would the policies of the harris-walz and metrics that might be anticipated linking back to the biden-harris ticket do you think that that policy will serve the arizonans that you have spoken to, who are concerned about their future? >> i think they can. she has won me over on the border and immigration policies. >> how so? >> well, i think people need to understand that executive orders are no substitute for congressional action when it comes to immigration reform. things like daca and the asylum seeking changes that the biden administer tricia has made recently, they're great, but the first time they go to court, though, they're likely not to withhold withstand up to scrutiny so the real answer is

the bipartisan immigration and border package that was negotiated by our senator sinema and senator lankford that was the once-in-a-generati on opportunity to have meaningful progress at the border. donald trump, for his own political personal gain, killed that because he wanted to have that device of wedge emotional issue to run on as president united states so and kamala harris has already said that she's still endorses that that plan. and if she's elected, she'll work hard to get that adopted. so for a border state mayor like me, that's music to my ears and donald trump is the opposite of that, will see what the voters think. mayor a pleasure to have you here. thank you for joining. i appreciate it so much more. >> from tonight's blockbuster speeches, what former president barak obama had to say about his vice president, joe biden. after this wow what's

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can say without question my first big decision as your nominee it turned out to be one of my best and i was asking joe biden to serve by my side as vice history will remember joe biden as an outstanding president who defended democracy at a moment of great danger hi i'm proud to call him my precedent, but i'm even prouder to call him my friend former president barack obama, giving his it's tribute to the current president of the united states, joe biden. and tonight's keynote dnc speech. my panel is back with me along with mark caputo, national political reporter for the bulwark, as well. >> i mean, listen, we knew yesterday was a day of flower is being given political

flowers being given to president joe biden. >> i do wonder, given the backstories, we'd all been hearing a bad reporting on did that strike you that he made a point to suggest that he had confidence in his decision i mean, he had to say it after all and he's right that joe biden was his first decision. joe biden helped him get elected. and then ultimately from all of the reporting we've seen, obama was among those who didn't want biden to run for reelection. and this is, this democratic party is the house that obama built. and you really saw that tonight you know, interestingly enough, we talk about from mayor giles and that's conversation that many field the republican party that they knew does not exist is the same true for democrats? >> or is it doubling down? and there is a recognition that these passing of the torch is whether it's from biden to obama to harris, shows some continuity that will actually enter their benefit yeah, thanks.

>> so look, i mean, it is the house that obama built, but the hell of an addition added by kamala harris is pretty remarkable. now, she's expanding the party in interesting ways. she's more forthright on issues. look obama is jackie robinson. his greatest strength was his ability to keep quiet in the face of white hostility, so that he wouldn't undermine the policy in civic piety that's a genius in its own right. but kamala harris has the potential to become willie mays that figure who was able to swing for the fences with joy to say, hey kid catching a ball, she's able to invest a level of joy in the whole political process that's pretty remarkable. so i think she's bringing some kind of joandre vivre that is remarkable in its own right. >> yet her laugh is so triggering for so many, especially one person and you heard the second gentleman, doug emhoff tonight, talk about that lab and that he loves it. i know we heard from the obamas

but we heard from him to this than we had to say about that moment i got kamala's voicemail and i just started rambling hey, it's done she called me back and we talked for an hour and we love wow well, you know, that laugh. i love that lab hey, is i know there was a really endearing and humanize when we often see the role of a first lady. >> but we're hearing it more and more in the historic nature of a second gentleman absolutely. >> and he was perfectly comfortable admitting that he's a big dork. i mean, that's what we saw on this stage, right? because he's right a guy leaves you a message at 8:30 in the morning. you're getting to i don't know that i would call them back. i gotta be honest. so this is

part of what spouses do you mean they give you an particularly in politics, people are looking for another entry point into understanding who you are, what your values are, what do you like as a pr as a part of a family? what do you like as part of that family and i thought he did a beautiful job talking about that, but also grounding her and family my grounding her in core values. but also as someone who is part of in a modern america. this is a modern american family, a blended family, and they need didn't shy away from talking about that and that, it's not always easy and it's complicated. and also i have to say pam thank to his daughter and she was so excited and his it was really lovely moment and that's what you want in a speech from a spouse. you want to feel that sort of warmth and get a sense of who they are. yet, we didn't we heard from family members of donald trump for the rnc.

>> we didn't hear from the former first lady, melania, although she's certainly made an appearance and she was there given what karen says, does that impact the way voters might see trump in his quest to be more humanized. >> oh, i don't think so. i look, i've been why is that? i think one of the best because i think one of the best speeches at the rnc was his granddaughter it's one thing to talk about your spouse. it's another to talk about your granddad and what he means to you. and i thought that was one of the most not just the most humanizing moments that we saw at the rnc itself. i think it's one of the most humanizing moments in donald trump's, professional political career that we've seen. and i thought she did an incredibly effective job as, did as did the first gentleman tonight. again, it's about humanizing their partner or their family member and doing it in a way that look at the end of the day, people are going to vote about immigration and the economy and they're going to vote on abortion and everything in between. but they also want to like somebody and feel that they're related. >> but there's a difference between you granddaughter and your spouse and the but i mean,

in terms i'm going to ask him that. >> from florida i'm not going say but what i'm saying is there's a difference that stereotype i'm saying the difference is this, is that the lack of melania's presence there in dates the hypocrisy of a donald trump, who continually speaks about familial intimacy. and yet he lacks and who talks about religion and yet he doesn't adhere to some of the basic tenants in terms of family, so i wouldn't let him off that easily. that's that's a an evasion that speaks to the fact that there are glaring absence of your own wife who doesn't want and i yes, you who doesn't want to be intimate with you that says something to voters as well. about what kind of man he is. i'm more, he isn't i'm not comfortable going there. look, i think i think the first lady stood next to him for four years in the white house by his side, every step of the way and has been a champion, not just for him, but for their family and the privacy of their son as he's grown up. look, i'm not

going to speak to who who goes on a stage doesn't matter who stands with somebody through the tough times does. and we all experienced that in our own way and in our own lives. i'm not going to i think i think what you're getting at though, is one of the problems that donald trump is starting to face is harris is being defined as a personality. >> and this used to be a race where he was dominating on issues and issues are starting to take a backseat and personality is starting to take a front seat and he loses on personality. he was winning on the two biggest issues for now inflation and immigration, but he losing not lost, but he was in 2016 though he did make it about personality. and here's a little secret about politics. it is not a rational exercise. people rarely vote with their head. they vote with their heart. and it is, yes, we talk about the issues and they manner but at the end of the day, it's do i trust that? person? do i feel a connection?

do i feel like they share my values and again, that was part of why doug speech was so important. the obamas were so important because again, all this credentialing and talking about who this person is from a value perspective is about something deeper and it's about saying trust, what you are feeling right now, the joy that we were talking about last night, that people were this night was about telling people trust that feeling. you can trust that feeling in your gut. and trusted all the way to november. >> well, you know, steve kerr made that point about what we what we note and compare for whether it's a coach or a teacher or anything else. what is the criteria for one who leads the country? voters have to decide that very issue. thank you so much, everyone. a great talking to you. there are tons of star power at the dnc tonight from the obamas to common littlejohn and a host of other celebrities, including none other than anthony anderson, who i caught up with the cnn cnn-politico grill our

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armor armor.com i'm jeff zeleny at the democratic national convention in chicago. >> and this is cnn well, earlier it's night i caught up with someone special ever heard of a little show called blackish? well, the star of that show, anthony anderson was at the cnn grill tonight. and here is our conversation. now, look who we found in this cnn ground. it is not anthony. oh, my goodness. i'm so glad to see you today. >> i just came over here for giphy and got sucked into an interview with laura well, some would say that my table wearing your that was harry enten? yes. it's a whole thing, but what do you have my socks on? >> your socks on, but i'm going to wear them tomorrow i'm going to go well, you know what i want you to have anymore, know how many different swag what rupert float work saying? >> well, we'll see about listen, you are here at the dnc

history is being made i'm looking at your pin men for choice it's one of the big issues of course, reproductive rights, health care more broadly, tell me why do you think people should really lean in right now about the election? you know, this road is a crazy place if we live in and, you know, a lot of people who sit at home and don't vote are making, a mistake because by not voting, they are voting for the opposition, whoever that opposition may be. and i think we all need to get out and vote and make a change and have a say in whatever it is that we're doing. men for choice, women's reproductive rights, health care all of that, you know, we all have a voice and we need to express that it's so important to think about the way in which people have to stand up for what they believe in, even if it does not immediately and obviously impact themselves, have been somebody who has been an advocate outspoken on issues of health care, outspoken at issues of justice, where broadly a lot of people who are in the entertainment space and

our of your stature and your talent will want to stay away from all politics you don't feel that way. >> why? >> no, we, you know, we all i'll have a platform in recent speak from that platform. and voice our opinion you know, good, bad, or indifferent. and that's what it is. you know, i'm here with the creative coalition and you we are liable lobbying for, you know, the national endowment for the arts you know, sometimes they want to zero out that on the balance sheet for us. but yet the political world turns to us as artists to help, you know? bring people to the table to talk, to vote she galvanize people to get them out in the streets and fight for rights. you know, on either side of the table. so i'm here for that i'm here to raise money for that. and raise awareness for that most people turn to artists to escape their reality so why don't we have anything

why, why do we need to fight for him? man down man for things that people use to escape. an artist. art is something that, that's universal and it speaks to the world. we speak about politics, we speak about religion, we speak about health. we speak about all those things so it's important for us to be here and there all the roles you've played, you have really been somebody that people relate to you become the every man you'd become somebody, evil respect and your talent and in undermine. and i was reading somewhere, it said fiction is a lie it tells the true and maybe art is one of the ways to explore our politics and a safe space. do you ever feel as well, although that the way in which artists are being brought into politics is too late for the conversations to start. >> it's never too late for any conversations you know, art imitates life and that's what it is. it's a reflection and a microcosm of the world in which we live and, you know, we, we, we get up there. you may not

agree with what i have to say. i may not agree with what you have to say, but it creates dialogue and hopefully we have a better understanding of each of his points of view at the end of that dialogue. that that's what it is about familiar. >> well, what about for all of us is fandom. because we all were feeling when you walked in the room, everyone was so excited people got up from their chair and maybe offered you there yes somebody yeah. >> not always but, you know, somebody did offer me a rookie afloat. i'm adapt panic, but i can't take it that that was jake tapper did, that that. was jake jake tapper asked me to say that to you. >> okay. >> thank you, jake. >> i knew better than i knew battle. still drink it go buy insulin and, you know what now the campaign would like you to talk about insulin on behalf of them. i will lead you are right now, but i'm so glad to have you on thank you so much. >> always great, dad. >> he in the studio but what do you mean always in the background? >> what do you mean you don't you don't want to have to

scream at me real quick? >> no, i want to scream at you from across the desk been on something i'm the guy may raise serious political debate. i could learn something from you. >> we wanted to make. >> what have you right now? i am a fan fan of view, so wow, you know, when you started your tenure, the way that you have it's like you and i congratulations i can't wait to meet that since you're here and here we are. >> thank you so much the feeling is very mutual. >> we all still watch your show is on he our loop and loved every minute. and it's always great when you meet someone that you think you like on television and you end up loving him. nice to meet, you know, what are your kids names again? their neighbor adrian sydney. >> adrian and sydney, i'm here with a mama you got are fans of the show, so thank you. love you guys don't have that, daddy that's okay. on my feet, i knew another.

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night. it's we're all a little bit delirious. the dnc he has been highly energetic. obama was in the room surreal for me as a chicago kid to see that this definitely an energy happening here. i loved that were filled homing in this bizarre venue, the cne cnn grill but i look like i'm jack schlossberg in turn, or something not sure what's happening, but insane vibes here tonight in sand and doug was great and michelle obama brought the house down. it was phenomenal so what would be barak obama's thoughts on the evening? well, actually, i'm so glad you asked because if you noticed actually, i spent a lot of time talking about what donald trump is going to do if he wins, he is going to tear this country down and we must remember that this election is about being your brother's keeper, being your sister's keeper get out to the polls,

make your voice heard and realized that in america we have a choice. and that choice is to defend our democracy. thank you so much. >> thank you. thank you. former president barack obama, know what would donald trump? i'm in response be to barak obama well, i will jd it was sympathetic dnc she's made stopped last figure of pig i will tell you that barak hussein obama, hussein obama he gave a nasty speech. >> she was talking a lot about various things. it's totally natural. yeah. have kamala harris, i talked about it in this set, the national association of black journalists. we don't even know why is it black india, nobody knows, but it's a, sad thing. what's happening with this country? you have to go out to the polls and make sure that i when thank you very much. >> thank you. >> i believe my dear friend, matt friend? yes. that you have a new impression you want to break out. we've got a surprise for the audience here. i believe it is going to be the democratic vice presidential

nominee, governor tim walz. >> you're ready, but this, i mean j.d. vance. this is just a crazy guy and i can't wait to debate the guy. i got to tell you. >> i'm a football coach. i know a thing or two about winning and i got to tell you as soon as i win this thing for the gatorade, ami bring out kamala, unless celebrate needs work it needs work. i'm going to work on it. i'm going to work at my tim walz impression on my couch and that is not a j.d. vance reference yeah. it's not a j.d. vance it's reference. and you said so much to work with who who do i remind you? >> you kinda remind me of like a young chuck schumer or something. >> i thought you saw chuck schumer's nephew. >> you might be checked it. schumer's nephew. i don't know. i would like to harry enten thing going on, but the one thing to the dnc was measuring was a little mitch to talk to a commercial there should stretch mcconnell and to thrilled it back. america's final network, shanahan i've always loved it. and it should the dnc has been

great you're a wonderful young reporter yeah, anyway, wow, from this crazy place the cnn grill. laura coates i love you, laura and i love cnn. and thank you. wrote me back. got it truly is just to recap, it's an electric here. cnn is at the front of it and it's hard to particularly though there's just there's just a lot of energy lot of energy, a lot of both or a high-energy person. and laura coates, back, we love you, laura, in our anchor sweet laura. >> you hi, harry enten, matt friend is what happens when you give people some root beer floats and a microphone, love to have you guys there so glad to see you and everyone makes sure to check out matt's new podcast called friend in high places. >> much more of our special coverage of the democratic national convention. it's coming up next five good things.

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