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the parties vice presidential nominee. it's a moment, the caps off a whirlwind month for walls who was relatively unknown until kamala harris rose to the top of the ticket and picked him as her running mate. and he's got a lot of work to do here, yes. to prove himself on the national stage he has to help the party convert this newfound energy the end momentum into votes. it's going to be a packed night with other powerhouse speakers. you'll see former president bill clinton take the stage transportation secretary pete buddha, judge, and former house speaker nancy pelosi. let's go to cnn's mj lee, mj, a big night ahead for walls. what are you expecting? >> yeah. briana, you know, at this point in time, most americans know very little about tim walz. he has only been a vp candidate for 15 days now and actually doesn't have that much more time to introduce himself to the american people before election day, less than three months

that he has had since becoming vice president common-law harrison's writing made he is going to lean heavily into his biography of course, highlighting his midwestern roots, the fact that he was born in a small town in nebraska, and then he is going to trace the arc of his career and also his career in public service. so the fact act that he had worked as a teacher, as a football coach, his time in congress in the house of representatives, and the fact that he is now, of course, a governor and then when it comes to the political messaging, we are told that he is going to be leaning into what he believes he can bring to the table in terms of serving the working class family families across the country. so that's sort of a marrying of his background and what he believes the vision can be for the harris walls administration. so again, expect this to be an introduction want a one into ten walls, and also briana, just pay attention to some of the people who will be on stage to help introduce him. this

will include a form for student who was coached by tim walz, i will also be home football players that he has worked with a no and his entire life, as well as a former coach that he also worked with. so those are the kinds of people that the campaign certainly believes can help tell the story of tim walls all right, we'll be looking forward to that mj and you can hear the sound check behind me. we've learned from our jamie gangel that john legend is going to be performing a tribute, basically a medley of prince songs ahead of minnesota governor tim walz's appearance. and that's what you're hearing behind it's very fun. so as walz is getting ready to take the stage tonight, he is facing some criticism for past statements in his political career with us now is cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny. jeff tell us about this governor walz as mj was saying, is just very new on the national scene. and a few of this pieces of his biography haven't really highlighted by a republican j.d. vance in

particular, on his military record, we know that he's served in the national guard for 24 years or so starting in nebraska, then transferring to minnesota. but some of his time near the end and he decided to leave and retired, run for congress has been picked a part of it, but it's a comment he made about the weapons of war when he was talking about gun control legislation he heard of him infer that he used the guns in war and he did not serve directly in combat, bitter as we talking about, that's one seeds of things at the latest controversy. he talked a lot about ivf, how he and his wife used the method of ivf to have their shoulder and he actually did not use ivf. it was iuie a different type of fertility treatment his spokesperson said, governor walz likes to talk like that. people talk so i'm not sure that that specifically is of huge concern

to voters, which specific form of fertility treatment he and his wife views reality is anyone who rockets into public life. they're going to be a few biography things that will be looked at but so far i think in the first month of him warring on the national stage, we have certainly seen many indications over the years have far bigger, bigger controversy thank you so much as it gets loud here at the music is great and john legend, bill clinton will be on that stage tonight. yeah, we'll be looking for that with us now to discuss is democratic congresswoman madeleine dean of pennsylvania. and i assure you congresswoman, they can hear us on the tv. it's just it gets a little crazy loud here in the arena but i do want to ask you because we have heard tim walz be inexact multiple times about some things does he need to address that his military record, for instance, because you have a bunch of republicans in your colleagues in the house, also senators out today

attacking his military record i find that so beneath j.d. >> vance as a military veteran, to pick apart the service 24 years of service to this country by the vice presidential nominee, tim walz. i find it beneath a fellow service member to have done this. remember, he could have retired at 20 years. 911 happened. he re-upped and he only stepped back and retired when he was pushed in an eager to run for congress to continue can you service to this country? so no, he doesn't need to address it. his service speaks for itself. and on the personal issue of ivf versus ici, i have a son, and daughter-in-law who are doing ivf right now. and i've been allowed to say that it is terrible that people would pick into when families are having a struggle, having a family mr. walz doesn't need to explain anything about his service and

his love of family i do want to note because we're going to be hearing a lot about january 6 tonight and you were in the gallery in the house chamber on that day? >> it was a very scary scene. we've seen the pictures, we can only imagine what it was like to be there in person. do you think that americans have forgotten? and what do you think they need to know? i think democrats are hoping to evoke this evening. >> well, i think it's important that we remember january the sixth in fact, i made a pitch to the house architect to make sure to preserve some of the damaged areas, the broken glass and splintered would to remind people of our history can you imagine a sitting president incited an insurrection and attempt to take over the government to avoid the transfer of power because of his loss. and even when he says he didn't incite it he sat

there for 187 minutes and didn't protect anybody i will never forget that day. america should never forget that day because that's what's at stake. our democracy is at stake. if this time around mr. trump loses again, he will hope that his followers will do it again, will never let it happen again. number one, kamala harris and tim waltz are going to win. pennsylvania is going to be provided i didn't know the key to the keystone state and to this win. but we must not forget january the sixth in pennsylvania, you have a democratic governor. you have pretty permissive abortion laws. it's not something that i think an issue i've heard this actually from some we are pennsylvania colleagues. it may not resonate as much as in other states that issue that obviously does motivate the democratic base because it is something that appears to be very secure for base voters in pennsylvania so can you speak to that a little bit about how

that issue is working, but also what needs to be addressed when it comes to the economy. when it comes to immigration. and those topics that really need to be broached to win over people and your state. >> let me disagree with you a little bit. number one, you're right. our governor governor josh shapiro, who will be speaking here tonight. i can't wait for it. he is the backstop and is protecting women's rights it's have reproductive health abortion, and abortion services are legal in pennsylvania, but that doesn't mean they haven't been constricted access to abortion providers has been constricted. the number of places clinics when parenthood's has shrunk so pennsylvania don't take this for granted. they get what project 2025 once they want a national abortion ban, that is what donald trump wants. that is what j.d. vance wants. he called rape and pregnancy as a result of rape and inconvenience trust me, in pennsylvania, women and men especially the men who love

women, because you get this. and they are pushing back on it. we will restore health care, reproductive health care across not just pennsylvania across this country. >> the economic message that your folks wanting hear well, number one, take a look at what has happened with this economy. >> i have to tell you our congress last congress in the majority helped the president and kamala harris put into law the big invest in america bills. look what's happened jobs are skyrocketing 16 million jobs created. inflation has been reduced take a look at what donald trump and j.d. vance want in terms of the economy, they want massive tariffs and mass deportation that will be extraordinarily inflationary. economist know it, it would be deserved, first of all, would never happen. and it would be disastrous for our economy. we're moving in the right direction, thanks to joe biden and kamala harris and democrats in the house and senate. >> congresswoman dean, thank you so much. i really appreciate it could be with us

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chicago. it's also a big day for john legend. we're hearing his sound jack behind us here at the united center, delegates are eager to hear from the minnesota governor as he formally accepts his vice presidential nomination. but right now, former president trump is on the trail with more dnc counterprogramming. he and his running mate, j.d. vance, are holding a campaign rally in battleground, north carolina. mark in trump's first outdoor rally since last month's assassination attempt cnn's phil mattingly is at the event in asheboro, north carolina. phil that is a big crowd behind you. tell us about the event yeah. >> that's actually one of the most interesting parts of this brianna over the course of this week, a full week of counter-programming in swing states throughout the country. most of the events been indoors, small crowds. paula plus eucentric and policy focus. this is supposed to be a policy speech that we're expecting from the foreign president is actually right behind me, just brought local law enforcement up to the stage. that's why it's so

quiet right now, but it's an outdoor rally with a lot of people both in the event space itself, but also outside in the parking lot. hundreds of cars, thousands of people out here to not even get in to the rally, but just to watch the rally. it's his first major outdoor event since the assassination. attempts in butler, pennsylvania. if you can see behind me on the stage, he is now surrounded by bulletproof glass and this is a marketable market moment for the former president getting back outside, doing an outdoor event the crowd, it's interesting ground i was talking to some of them. not really paying much attention to what's going on in chicago, didn't tell them john legend was playing, but ton of attention what they are focused on right now is the former president. this is a stronghold part of north carolina for the former president's second time he's been in the state in the last week underscoring the importance of this state he's won it twice. republicans know brianna, he has to win north carolina again, have any path to 270 and you have been at these trump events during the dnc, phil, what are you hearing

from his supporters? what's interesting is i'll give you a crowd response from earlier j.d. vance asked him to call unresponsive. it has anybody been watching the democratic national convention and he called it coronation. and very pejorative way and the resounding screen back at him was no. and that's been my experience too. and talking to people, not really paying attention to what's going on very much still feel the way i think a lot of people in the republican party, a lot of trump supporters felt 32, 33 days ago in milwaukee there is an understanding though, when you talk to republicans who know the kind of battleground states very well, particularly those who understand north carolina, that this is a very real and very different race. the supporters, they are always where they bend and over the course of the last eight or nine years, despite what might be going on in chicago right now, the political operatives are very cognizant of the fact that this is his close as it can possibly get all of the critical seven battleground states. the former president and his wife's presidential candidate will be visiting are absolutely essential. and it could go either way at this point, brianna all right.

>> phil mattingly live for us in north carolina. thank you for that. and with us now, we have are two cnn senior political commentators david urban and van jones, who is also our chief modern dance contributor as it turns out, took everything in my power to give whether we're playing good to. >> kill off guard i was having a whole van dam i tell you, vance answer no privacy share their business judging ideas like a lane for like no judgment at all. why am i where we talked about donald trump but his great, okay. he will move on gets another night the

heels down i don't know. let him be okay. >> so big night for tim walz. what do you think he needs to do here to introduce himself as republicans have really tried to define him. >> well, look, i mean, i think that he's done a good job so far. there's been some potholes i'm sure you'll you'll jump on in terms of how he got his family started some stuff on military service. he's got to handle that. he can have a third one of those where it seems like something's not exactly lining up. but the thing that people like about him is the thing that's hard to fake. it's related bility, its authenticity, it's the way that he just seems like somebody's you know, dad grew up with and he just needs to fill that in. and i think he's going to be fine what do you think ellis and i'm not even going to knock on those things advanced talking about because that's all out in the public domain. >> what i think walz, he's do as he needs to make this convention more relatable to pete. listen. this is a base convention. the republican convention is a base convention. you're talking to

your base you're out there for this kamala harris to do is expand our base right go after those swing counties in pennsylvania. i'm just always focused on pennsylvania, so erie county, pennsylvania, white working class guys in erie county, pennsylvania, tim walz, test to be like the bass pro guy has gotten hour talking earlier ago, has to be the bass pro-god shown up at the bass pro shop in erie county, pennsylvania then you're in harrisburg. it's got to make it more relatable to those kind of voters that want to connect, but don't feel a connection. this point, right? they watched brock obama, they watched kamala harris say cvs, southern folks like that's not really the relatable that party is not my party. if tim walz could do that, it'll be a tougher race. an interestingly, bianna, what i noticed over the past two nights with president obama michelle obama, and former secretary clinton, they had this cautionary tale there, given a cautionary tale, listen, guys, i know you feel good here, but we've been through this already. we've seen the football been moved. donald trump is going to be tough and we leave here. we're going to have to get tough. yeah. and we'll talk about that, but i do want to talk about this moment from barackobama last night, a moment that i'm not sure we

all saw coming here. it is there's the childish nicknames the crazy conspiracy theories this weird obsession with crowd sizes so you have shocked because after donald trump was so gracious, yeah. said some nice things to kristen holmes about barack and michelle obama, who was so kind to them and for brocco, it just mean-spirited i'm shocked about yeah. look, i was surprised. i think there's a strategy here to see if you can keep trump crazy. if you can keep him react like trigger him beshear him, keep him reacting, keep him. thanks. very nutty stuff because the republicans desperate would like for donald trump to talk about something remotely relevant to the world besides himself. and so, if you can keep him upset, maybe you keep you keep them off balance. i mean, imagine if he doesn't have donald trump start talking

about issues, right? >> so we've had the best that's 32 days, probably the best 32 days any modern campaign in american political history. and kamala harris in this campaign are still tied neck and neck and behind his sub-states. so if donald trump gets back on message, barack obama, secretary clinton, all those warnings about be careful, he's, he's a tough guy, tough campaigner, going to hold, true? yeah. he might be his own worst enemy and it seems like they are trying to keep him in that role. i do want to play a moment from michelle obama, which was one of her big ones last night here it is for years, donald trump did everything in his power to try to make people fear us see his, his limited narrow view of the world made him feel threatened by the existence of two hard work and highly educated, successful people happen to me who's going to tell him that the job he's currently seeking might just be one of those black jobs look, i think that she has something

gauff her chest oh, for sure. she came to play. yeah. >> and i think that it has been troubling to watch this kind of just like a double-standard, like donald trump seems like you can get away with anything and be forgiven. and they were held as such a ridiculously high standard that it was a scandal when he wore a tan suit and i think when you carry that, i think she has himself gfre chest and she was speaking not just for herself. i think a lot of people who feel like this so-called dei backlash or whatever is really just code for stay in your place. and or if you got there, you didn't earn him. and given how hard people are working to get places in the black community, the bronco media and other communities. she's speaking for a lot of people trump is winning over some or lack men, latino men. that is a real problem for kamala harris, cobble harris has got a big, big problem, right? i watched a benny johnson, benny johnson video out here on the south side of chicago, walking around a strip mall with a microphone saying, who you vote for going out to african or gunmen donald trump. donald trump, this is, this is brock obama hometown,

donald trump, in the city of philadelphia. donald trump has great deal of support from african are men you know, one of the things that i note is lacking from a lot of this program as well. a lot of reach to outreach to hispanic, the hispanic community i may i don't see a lot of hispanics on the stage, right. and so they've got a lot of work to do. there's going a lot of work to do in the span of community. people. the folks who are in the middle-class feel the pinch on the economy, on immigration in their, in their communities it's going to be erased. you, nobody thinks it's going to be easy, not going to be down to a few votes at all. the states and all these counties. that's why it's important. >> she's got work to do, clawing back some of these young black men who want to hear that. i want you to be successful economically, to be a business owner, to be an entrepreneur, it can all be government programs it's not landing well, these young black men, when they hear opportunity, they mean do you mean charity? they want to be owners, they want to be builders. if she speaks to them in that way, and listen to them on that point, you can get him back, but right now she's got one of trump's our of strong businessman, strong business, i

build things. >> i'm the tough guy, right? people like that. >> van and david. thank you so much. ashley, for the move that keeps on giving. >> all right ahead much more from the democratic national convention here in chicago. and another story that we're following closely, the latest on these ceasefire and hostage talks between hamas and israel. and a warning from iran which says time is on its side when it comes to its planned retaliation against israel for an attack on its on a hamas leader in tehran will have that next this fall. comedy is coming to cnn go wrong i got news for you for me or saturday, september 14th at nine on cnn john, in the news team are at the dnc in chicago in john's going that's what

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you talk about the two principal parties, israel and hamas, they're both saying publicly they're not on the same page. >> with this deal. so that despite the cautious optimism you were hearing over the weekend, at least from the israeli side, right now, they are publicly not on the same page, but there are also at the same time appears to be daylight between the us and israel specifically. and when i say israel, i should say the israeli prime minister, because there's even disagreement in this country on the way forward specifically on israel's presence in gaza. after any ceasefire and down the line specifically, in particular, along the border between gaza and egypt, the philadelphi border, which is so important because it israel concerned about the flow of weapons in that way. now, the israeli prime minister told hostage families yesterday that it's not leaving. it views that as a core strategic interest anthony blinken is, seems to be communicating. that's a non-starter. a state department official told reporters on his

plane yesterday that that is a maximalist position by israel. that's the word of the state department official, not helpful to these negotiations. so until it's clear that israel and the u.s. are on the same page about the way forward, it's hard to see how then you go and try to get hamas and mediators to sit down again to find a way forward. at this point, i wouldn't say quite an impasse. the talks are continuing but they are certainly not moving forward. >> and jim looming over all of this is iran and the threat of retaliation after the killing of a hamas commander into ron. i understand iran is making new comments about the potential response. what's the latest there? >> so iran has been cagey with this, as you might imagine, there have been some public comments from iran saying no need to strike now, and saying quite publicly that they want a ceasefire in gaza. they want the fighting to stop there but

in effect saying, if we don't strike now, we could strike at a later date. i will say that last week. you would hear from u.s. officials going back to the beginning of last week that this war could expand at any moment, right? that a strike from iran and perhaps hezbollah as well was imminent i haven't heard that for a week. it appears because it those parties giving time for these negotiations to work to work out, but as these negotiations perhaps get to a point where we're there not moving forward that raises that risk again, the risk is always been there. the thread has been there and israeli official told me that today but of course the concern is if those talks so aren't moving forward, there will be heightened alert here and elsewhere in the region about the potential for an iranian strike, potential for a broader hezbollah strike because keep in mind boris, hezbollah is flying across israel's northern border every day, multiple times, and israel is firing back so that's a low-grade conflict up there. of course, the concern is becomes a higher grade one absolutely.

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joining us now is democratic congressman from california, robert garcia. he was the co-chair of the harris campaign in 2020. he's now a member of the harris campaign advisory board. i'm very excited to speak with you. you spoke on monday night during the first night of the convention, and i wanted to talk to you specifically about latino men because it's not like they're going on mass to donald trump. but the margins here matter, and he is getting them in numbers that are concerning to democrats. how should kamala harris address this? >> well, i think first look, i think if you're looking at undecided voters and some of the polls, certainly a lot of undecided voters within the latino community are moving over to kamala harris. i think she's consolidating a lot about support, but there's no question that we have work to do in the party. i think vice president harris understands this i think you saw, for example, her proposal around homeownership, around housing for all around, making sure that we're building affordable housing, providing tax credits for first-time homebuyers. those are the kind of policy

proposals. they're going to speak to the latino community, to latino men in particular, you're going to hear more about issues around health care, around access to affordable health care for their families one thing you hear a lot from the latino community is making sure that we have strong public school systems. let's not forget, don trump wants to destroy the department of education. so those are the contrast it will be made. and i think that vice president harris and governor walz will continue to reach out to they'll tino community, especially in the swing-states. >> you talked to latino men in your community across the country, even in your own family what turns them off of democrats this ticket, and what some of them i should say, and what is drawing some of them to donald trump? what do they tell you? >> look, i think first a lot of folks i've talked to recently, whether they're folks i know through family or friends. i actually think folks are moving towards the ticket. there's a lot of interests, i think in kamala harris, she has a great record in california. i think

latinos feel like she's been part of the broader community, which is why have you seen people swing towards her? but i think what latino men and i think latinos in general don't want to hear about is not just immigration issues, but also what, what, what are the ticket going to talk about when it comes to health care, about lowering the price of insulin, which biden-harris has done about how there's more access for their kids and their families to go to college. you go to a technical school those proposals are, are are on their way. i think we've seen the biden administration do some of the work and now the harris team with walz are going to provide more of that to the community, but i think they're going to wendell tenant community strongly. and some of those undecided latinos will continue to come the harris-walz social issues and abortion has been very big for democrats. that's an issue that plays very well for them. what about that issue? >> look, i think if you look at most, most voters, whether they're latino or anyone else, the issue of abortion resonates. people believe that women should have access to make those choices about their bodies. and that includes the latino community. and you see that again in survey after survey. so we got to lean in even in those swing stage with

a lot of latino voters, pennsylvania and north carolina, georgia, nevada, arizona and talk about abortion. i think it helps the ticket. it also helps to reach out to little tino community in the language that they speak. and you're going to see a lot of that in the ads that are out today and winds in the future what do you want to hear from governor walz tonight i'm so fired up. >> i mean, what an amazing selection of the vice president make in the governor but we've already heard him kind of go around and speak to some of the delegations. what i want to hear is the kind of vice president he is going to be. >> he's onstage. i just want to i just want to mention this right now. now, we see him doing a walk through they're here at the united center because obviously he will be speaking tonight. he's going to get is familiarity of where he'll be. so we'll keep an eye on that is please continue what you were saying. no. look, i think i think we're going to hear and what i want to hear is how he's going to be as vice president. i think we're going to hear his own vision for the ticket. but the most important thing that happened tonight is

when the country needs to get to know the governor and get to know him as a person. and it's really his introduction as a person and his record as governor, he's going to talk about tonight what he's done as governor and how that adds to the harris-walz ticket we thank you so much, congressman, for being with us. we really appreciate it and kamala harris and doug emhoff have a different family from really any that we've seen before in the white house. but it's a family that many americans are familiar with ahead, we'll talk about the appeal of their modern family and how that reflects the lives of some voters will have that next everything you want is right ten the disney plus hulu max bundle. >> this guy can't shoot he's got we got they're five kelly

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all right welcome back to cnn special live coverage from the dnc where we will be hearing tonight from this man, the governor of minnesota, tim walz. >> he's currently doing his walk through. these are live pictures here from the united center in chicago. he is getting the lay of the land ahead of his big high-stakes remarks this evening last night, though, second gentleman, doug emhoff, took the stage to show a different side of vice president harris. she he highlighted their love for their blended family and how much is children have embraced the woman they call momala emhoff was introduced by his son cole, who says that they weren't used to politics or the spotlight as her political career bloomed. but they gladly stepped up it felt like doug was a bit out of place on capitol hill. i

thought what is my goofy dad doing here he embraced it. we might not look like other families in the white house. but we are ready to represent all families in america let's bring in. our numbers guy harry enten. all right. harry cole emhoff says they may not look like a lot of america, but actually they do, they do. >> i mean, look, it's the modern american family, right? we look at the percentage of americans who have a step relative of any sort. it's greater than 40%. how about a stepchild? it's more than 10%, you know, my buddy noem's warming for example, is a stepfather to a stepchild more than that you know, we talk about people who are married more than once, right? which doug emhoff obviously has been, and that number has about doubled since 1,980. my parents, 19801980, i have a tendency to do that. i don't know why i do that. that's like looking back in the olden days, both my parents were married more than once. so the bottom

line is, they might say, hey, this is a little bit strange, a little bit different, but you know what america is, a little bit strange, a little bit different from what it used to be. and the emhoff family and kamala harris has part of a growing diverse bauer constructor in terms of the american family dynamic. >> and president obama also touched on something that many spouses can relate to. let's listen to this she will have an outstanding partner and governor tim walz. >> he knows what's important you can tell those those flannel shirt she where's don't come from some political consultant. they come from his closet and they have been through some stuff gosh, we all have this shirt of her husband's that we hate my girlfriend has many of those shirts. i fill up my little league tee-shirt. you know that

i wear all around the house sometimes i don't know how it still fits me. but, the bottom line is this. the bottom line is that tim walz is a fairly popular guy, right? we've had a number of polls that have been taken since he was selected as the democratic vp nominee. and you know what he's actually liked by more americans than disliked, which is such an odd thing in today's america where basically politicians are almost always in the red and it's such a difference from j.d. vance, right? he has been consistently in the red across all of the polls and wall tim walz has actually been a pretty good pick, at least according to the american public j.d. vance, going back over the last 40 years, is the least popular vp nominee a month out from his party's convention. he's less life then paul ryan, he has less liked than dan quayle, of course, a sort of infamous in terms of his unlikability. the bottom line is this j.d. vance is not helping the republican ticket at this particular point. tim walz, if nothing else, is probably at least

helping a little bit on the democratic side, she made a good selection. donald trump did that will ultimately make a difference in the outcome of this election? >> maybe not, but the bottom line is that donald trump has been having to answer for j.d vance and kamala harris hasn't had to do any real answering for we also need some interviews, so maybe there will look look hopefully they'll do an interview. >> some tough interviews. but the bottom line is with about 80 days or so to go. one made a good selection, the other didn't point taken. >> all right. harry enten. thank you so much thank step mom here. so a pretty segment. tim walz has fired up the base, but can he win over the voters that he and calm? kamala harris need to win in november, we're going to talk about the challenge for the minnesota governor and the vp nominees speech tonight this fall comedy is coming to cnn what could go wrong i got news for you you

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