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september 14 at nine on cnn i'm kim brunhuber. this is cnn newsroom. we're going to show you live pictures now from southern lebanon after hezbollah militants said they've quote, successfully completed their retaliatory strikes on israel for the day well dance what happened in northern israel hours ago after the group fired at least 200 rockets from lebanon, hezbollah called that the first phase of its retaliation for the recent killings of its top military commander. but earlier, israel said it hit hezbollah positions just as they were preparing to launch their strikes. the idf says more than 100 fighter jets took part in the operation destroying thousands of hezbollah rocket launcher beryl's. lebanon says three people were killed in the israeli military says, they've been carrying out more attacks in southern lebanon in the last

hour. prime minister benjamin netanyahu reacted to hezbollah's offensive, furious the notebook as who took isabella this morning, we detected hezbollah's preparation to attack israel together with the minister of defense and the chief of staff, we instructed the idf to act proactively to remove the threat. >> the idf has since been acting vigorously to thwart the threats. it destroyed thousands of rockets aimed at the north of the country. it also thwarted many other threats and operates with great strength both in defense and attack. i ask you, citizens of israel to comply to the directives of the home front command. we are determined to do everything to protect our country, return the residents of the north safely to their homes. and continued while he pulled a simple rule whoever hurts us, we hurt them we have reporters on the ground across the region. >> cnn's nic robertson is in tel aviv, israel and ben wedeman joins us live from beirut, lebanon. want to start with you, ben, so take us through what hezbollah is saying about the targets and

what might come next but hezbollah has put out a variety of statements this morning. >> kim, in one of them, had said that this is the first phase in its response to the 30 july killing of a senior hezbollah commander by israel. here in beirut. they said that this first phase has been successfully completed pleaded, and it is done for the day. now, they say they launched more than 320 missiles at 11 israeli military position along the border with the intention of knocking out anti-missile, anti-drone facilities and allowing other drones to go in to what they call the depth of israel and hezbollah has claimed that it hit a major military operation deep within israel. we have yet to hear any confirmation on that from the israeli side. now, we've seen that there have been a series of strikes continuing until

this very moment. on various towns, villages, and other areas in southern lebanon, the official national news agency of lebanon describing it as the most intense day of israeli strikes since october. they report that three people have been killed so far. one of them a man who was killed on a strike on his car in the town of km near the border. and two others in the town of 80s-era. we don't know as far as the number of injured go this evening, 6:00 p.m. local time. that's in six hours hezbollah secretary general hassan nasrallah he is scheduled to give a speech in that speech will probably get a better idea as to whether as to what the group's next steps are, whether there will in fact be a phase two. now here in beirut, we've seen that number of

airlines have canceled the party in an incoming flights into the airport here, but others seem to be operating normally at the moment kim all right. >> nick now, from israel's point of view, take us through the military and the political reaction there yeah. a security cabinet called in the early hours of the morning, which lasted until quite a quite a couple of hours after the initial big round of strikes have taken place the idf not announcing specific damage at any specific sites or hezbollah claims to have hit we're aware of one civilian, a woman in an aco in the north of israel. >> she was hit by by falling shrapnel there is a higher level of readiness. the home front command is sort of lifted. it's its instructions

for the population from here in tel aviv actually, all the way to the northern border telling them today to stay closer to their shelters, not to congregate in groups of more than 30 people. in fact, in tel aviv, official sara saying the beaches are closed, that leisure and culturally activities should be sort of put on hold, at least for today, 240 shelters, rocket shelters available to people in the city open, but telling citizens not to go and congregate in them. now and more shelters can be opened as needed. so it's a heightened state of alert without specificity of precisely what hezbollah has hit, what damage they may or may not have done but a very real understanding and from israeli officials that this threat unlike the recent strikes by hezbollah, which have been confined to northern israel along the golan, some of the small areas right up at the very, very tip of northern israel. this was different. some of the missiles they say were intended to target central

israel and that knowing that are understanding that and seeing the readying of those weapon systems is why they had this preemptive series of strikes in the early morning beyond that we're not getting a stronger read, but i think it's a reasonable assumption given the heightened state of alert understand that israel's air force that deployed close to 100 fighter jets overnight is probably standing by should they get instructions to take to the air again to hit more targets. but again, having said that, at the moment, we seem to be in a pause phase. what both sides that's the impact on them. and what they assessed the other side is going to do alright, appreciate that. >> nic robertson in tel aviv. thanks so much. i want to bring in retired u.s army major general mike mark mccarley. thank you so much for being here with us, sir. so first,

what do you make of the the scope and the targets of the strikes on both sides? >> well, as we look at this, i can almost establish very clearly. we began with the preemptive israeli strike it was a response significant response. the attack by hezbollah with its approximately 300 missiles and immediately after that israel responded to targets some are saying, as the ones in which israel attacked earlier in a preemptive strike. but bottom line is, we now are looking at hezbollah. hezbollah has stated it has completed successfully phase one, and i am sure that with the israeli high command, the question that's circulating is, what is phase

two is at a continuation of what we've seen over the last 24 hours or is it a asymmetrical attack, meaning it's not an anticipated attack an unexpected attack, and attack from various capas directions. and when i say capas directions is at a consolidated attack from iran, is it one from yemen? will we see missiles, rockets firing from parts of syria or iraq? that's the concern and that nobody can calculate yeah. >> so far it seems as though the attacks have been sort of more and more symbolic and carefully calibrated, not to go over a certain line to two, then trigger a massive escalation. do you get a sense that it will fall in those parameters yes. when you look at once again, as i referenced

an earlier statement i made about the sequences of events, the response, this phase two identify by his rally is something that will take place hezbollah is in fact both a military entity and as well a political one. it is absolute prerequisite if you're looking at this attack, this last 24 hours from the perspective of hezbollah, that it should not and most it's probably will not attack civilian centers because then the information will response, what son and social media puts hezbollah in a bad light? >> if it focuses on military targets that might suggest phase two or something else might occur that we have not in any way calculated when we're talking about hezbollah, its

capabilities have expanded a lot since the full-scale war or between the two, between them and israel in 2006 so what are the risks here for israel militarily of going into a full-blown war in lebanon and the immediate risk is that it's facing an enemy. >> perhaps the best equipped and resourced and trained non-state military actor some estimates, including those made even on our stations, cnn suggests that hezbollah has over 100,000 rockets and not all of these have been expended over the last couple of months so big risk with the growth in the technology and the sophistication of the hezbollah missile, the array of missiles there are rockets that are now

deployed by hezbollah that have a range in excess of 400 kilometers. what that means is that from launch positions, there you go. from launch positions within southern lebanon or even further north to protect those very rockets hezbollah can reach the most southern portion of israel. that's the big concern. and if one of those rockets were somehow to succeed, that iron dome and was unable to destroy that weapon. and that weapon hit a population center. then i would say that all bets are off and that we're looking at a huge regional conflagration. >> yeah and one wish might drag in the u.s. we know the biden ministration has been i'm in touch with its israeli counterparts what response, if

any, do you expect from the u.s military assets that are in the region right now the assets or there, first of all, to provide that air defense coverage as well second responsibility, and that is to maintain the equipment posture of the idf. so that's continuing at this point. and the u.s. and its allies, jordan, great britain the emirates, to the extent that the emirates, some are sometimes assist us that effort on the u.s. as park is to avoid as it did on july 30, avoid a missile destroy all rockets that are penetrating israeli airspace. because once again, if a population centers such as tel aviv is struck than we have

no idea of the intensity of that future campaign again, we don't know what what phase two might entail, but you are sort of talking about it widening possibly an involving other entities in other countries like iraq if that happens, could us troops and assets be targeted here at the last part, that question. the answer is easy, and i say easy because it has already occurred within the last couple of months. we've had iranian proxies strike in syria, in syria, we have, you u.s. forces fortunately, there have been no deaths, at least in this round but sir, to that question is i think that the proxies if this conflict goes beyond what we see today very very likely that there will be

on the part of a proxies some manner of strikes against a u.s. i'm not suggesting that we're going to be looking at another arac and which you had hostilities that we're an effort by al qaeda and i.s.i.s. to destroy us forces. but there will be an attack on installations as there have been in the last couple of months we'll have to leave it there. but really appreciate your expertise, major general mark mccarley. thank you so much thank you well, as i mentioned, u.s. president joe biden is monitoring the events in israel and lebanon. the white house says biden has discussed the strikes with his national security teams, senior u.s. officials have also been and communicating with their israeli counterparts, and that includes defense secretary lloyd austin, who spoke with israel's defense minister, yoav galant. the pentagon reaffirmed america's ironclad commitment to israel's defense alright, after the break, we'll look at how these latest

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it's delegation is now in cairo for ceasefire talks that were due to resume today. >> the goal is to stop the fighting has been raging for more than ten months and negotiate the release of hostages held byamas a iselficial told cnn that an israeli delation s still exed to go to iro today. earlier in egyptian official apt onome issu, includingl far e presence of israeltroops on israel's border with egypt we have elliott gotkine standing by in london. so elliot despite these latest attacks, it seems the talks are still going ahead. >> that's how things seem right now, kim and look the two conflicts for want of a better description are related in the sense that hezbollah started firing on israel a day after the hamas-led terrorist attacks in solidarity with the militant group in gaza and at the same time, there are some observers that thought they may maybe i are sinwar, the leader of hamas in gaza, and also of hamas generally now, may have been playing a bit of a waiting game

to see if for hezbollah's retaliation for the killing of its top military commander and say nothing of iran's planned retaliation for the assassination of hamas has previous a political leader ismail haniyeh in tehran and to see if those retaliations would drag the region into a wider war. now, certainly for now at least after what hezbollah is describing this phase, one of its retaliation, it doesn't look like hezbollah's attacks or indeed israel's preemptive strikes or strikes after the barrage was launched by hezbollah earlier today is going to do that, at least not yet. and so we are now focused back on these talks which haven't been knocked of course, not that they need to be knocked off course because they've been stuck now on and off for the past nine months of so or so and there seemed to be some major sticking points here, not just between israel, hamas been out between israel and the egyptians as well. at. least because of israel's demand to retain control of the so-called philadelphi corridor, the 14 kilometer or so strip of border between southern gaza

and egypt. israel says that it needs to retain control of that in order to prevent the smuggling of weapons and money and other materials to hamas and its mp doesn't trust the egyptians too. prevent that from happening and enabling hamas to rearm itself. so that's one of the major sticking points. i must also accusing israel of changing the parameters of the release of palestinian prisoners held in israeli jails in exchange for the release of hostages. and i suppose the big one is that hamas has consistently been demanding an agreement for a complete and permanent ceasefire before getting to phase one, which would be the temporary six-week ceasefire of this three-phase deal that president biden outlined several months ago. and of course, at the same time, you have prime minister benjamin netanyahu reiterating israel's demands that it will not that it reserves right to go back to fighting after the initial six-week truce in order to destroy hamas's military and governance capabilities and to prevent the gaza strip from threatening israel and prime

minister netanyahu believes to continue to keep up the pressure on hamas to release those hostages or to do a deal that would see those hundred nine hostages still being held in gaza around a third of whom are believed to be dead to get them back in israel, an earlier this week, of course, you have hostage families also becoming even more concerned than they already were for the plight of their loved ones in gaza when six bodies were discovered in tunnels, underground, khan younis in the southern parts of the gaza strip forensic analysis showing that they did suffer gunshot wounds, that they couldn't definitively say that those gunshot wounds were killed. those hostages. so you've got hostage families demanding a deal you for israel's military. rarely and defense establishment according to reports in israeli media, pressuring the government to do a deal as well strange way it may be that heightening tensions on the northern border with hezbollah may encourage israel to kind of wrap things up in the gaza strip in order

to focus on the northern border, something that israel's defense minister, yoav galant has said that israel is increasingly doing to focus on the north and the threat of hezbollah for now, look at least the talks are still ongoing. they haven't collapsed, and as long as they are talking, there is still the possibility that a deal can be done that would see a ceasefire and also the return and freeing of the hostages being held in the gaza strip. but of course, we've been seemingly close so many times over the past nine months of on and off talks, there is i think hope but optimism for now, kim, i fear as perhaps in short supply, yeah. >> agreed. alright. elliot gotkine. thanks so much. appreciate that. >> when we come back, we'll go live to the middle east and israel's preemptive strike on hezbollah targets in lebanon, stay with us meadows are they a, fruit or a vegetable you're actually both, right? but botanically speaking, the us supreme court ruled that a

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beirut, lebanon so ben, first to you, you get a sense that hezbollah is walking a fine line here are mostly symbolic attack without crossing the line and in order to avoid a major escalation that's been their stated goal for quite some time that they did want to respond to the killing and late last month the senior hezbollah commander here in beirut but at the same time, we heard twice in the last few weeks from the head of hezbollah saying that they hezbollah does not want a full-on war. >> they always stressed that there front with israel is a front of support for the palestinians of fighting in gaza. what we've seen is several statements put out by hezbollah so far today saying that the first phase has already been completed, that their military strikes have been completed successfully. today, they said that they

launched more than 300 and 20 missiles at israel, 11 israeli targets, all of them bases along the border including the metro own base, which she's an important air control and surveillance position. just a few kilometers south of the border. we're going to hear from the head of hezbollah this evening at 6:00 p.m. local time. that's in five hours from now. and i think that speech will give an indication of whether hezbollah is going to continue, or it's going to de-escalate this situation. now, the israelis are claiming that they took out a lot part of the rocket launchers that are on the border. it's important to keep in mind that hezbollah is real heavy arsenal, its long range precision rockets are not but based in the border area there, based further away and more remote areas. and as we've seen in a propaganda video,

they put out just a few days ago probably deep inside the tunnels, dug into the mountains. now, as far as the situation in the south of lebanon goes it seems that israeli airstrikes have continued throughout the morning the official lebanese national news agency reporting this was the most intense period of israeli strikes since last october. we know that at least three people have been killed as a result of israeli strikes. one individual killed when his car was struck in the town of high am, which is not far from the border. and in the town of thierry to other people were killed. were not aware where of the number of injured at this point. now, what we've also seen is that a variety of incoming and outgoing flight it's to beirut, from beirut have been canceled otherwise, there are flight still coming

and going, but at a much slower pace. then is normal. now the u.n peacekeeping mission in south lebanon, unifil has put out a joint statement with the united nations special coordinator for lebanon calling on all sides to exercise restraint. we've also seen that the emergency ministerial committee the government of lebanon is also discussing the situation, but it's important to keep in mind that the lebanese state is very weak and has very little control troll over what hezbollah does. >> kim all right, i want to go to nic now. >> nick, take us through the mood and the reaction there in israel as its targeted yet again yeah there's been a lot of concern since that strike killing a senior hezbollah commander a month ago that israel, that hezbollah and indeed iran would choose to

strike at israel as their leaders had said, not intending to cause a massive escalation, but in response to the killing of fu'ad shukr and ismail haniyeh, the hamas leader in tehran. >> so the country has sort of been on a footing where it's been wondering and waiting and watching for that to come. but all the time the instruction from israel's officials here has been there's no change in the alert level. the home front command alert level system and that tells people how close they should stay to their shelters, what shelters are open to limit gatherings that sort of thing. it hadn't happened until now. so the level that the threatened it's being perceived that for today, at least is enough for the home front command warning system to tell people, particularly in the north, but from tel aviv to the north not to travel too far, not to cricket, congregate in numbers greater than 30 and

tel aviv, there's a ban on people going to the beaches for swimming today. so okay congregate there, there's a ban on leisure and i'm and other sorts of gatherings that people might have so that is a heightened level of alert only one civilian as far as we know, was injured and that was an aco in the north. and no details of what was hit. miller terribly, which if we had that, then you could perhaps get a sense of israel's military posture. at the moment. we can understand that they will be ready for action as they normally we are. and indeed having strikes in the same vein, the lower level strikes that they've had along the border. i think one can expect that to continue, but in terms of what the military here does, next, on a big scale that does seem to be on a pause as both sides tried to assess what the other side is doing next and how bad the impact has been

on them. and typically, the idf really doesn't get into detail of damage done to its military sites it can alright. >> nic robertson in tel aviv and ben wedeman in beirut. i want to thank you both and stay with us here on cnn newsroom. >> we'll be right people are watching and then are world changed. tv on the edge premieres sunday, september 22 did nine on cnn what a next level clean switched with the whoa of listerine. >> it kills 99.9% of bad breath germs for five times more cleaning powered than brushing and flossing alone, get a next level, clean with listerine. >> feel the whoa, time do press rewind with neutrogena rapid wrinkle repair. it has durham proven retinol expertly formulated to target stem cell turnover and fight not one, but five signs of aging. physical results in just one week

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favorite pair of jeans today and taylor available on the apple app store or android have i got news for you, ramirez, saturday, september 14th at nine on cnn back tomorrow story, israel has responded preemptively to a planned strike by hezbollah earlier this morning for more on this, i'm joined by jasmine el-gamal in london and she's a former middle east adviser at the u.s. >> department of defense thanks so much for being here with us. so first big picture, your take on these latest developments. what do you make? of, hezbollah strikes. and what israel says was a preemptive attack good morning and thank you so much for having me on so big picture. >> this is a strike a retaliatory strike by by

hezbollah that was planned and was expected. it was entirely expected after it's real assassinated hezbollah's top military commander and subsequently, the hezbollah secretary general hassan nasrallah stated very clearly that the organization was poised to retaliate for the assassination and the delay in the timing of that attack was part of its psychological war fair against israel. that idea that israelis were living in fear waiting to see what kind of attack would come and when it would come. >> so this was all played out very publicly. >> it was not a surprise. what it does tell us though, about the larger picture in the region is that things are not going well. the ceasefire there are negotiations that have been going on for months between israel and hamas, which were supposed to have offered all the actors in the region from iran to hezbollah, to hamas, an off-ramp to choose a diplomatic

end to this conflict. those ceasefire negotiations have not been going well so that, it gives us a sense of just how badly the ceasefire negotiations are going. because if there were an imminent breakthrough in the negotiations, it would be highly unlikely for hezbollah to jeopardize that by trying thank to strike israel at this time. the second thing it tells us, of course, is the shortcomings that sort of highlights the shortcomings of american diplomacy in the region over the last ten months, secretary blinken has gone to the region almost every single month since october 7. and the fact that those efforts have not yet born any fruit when it comes to lowering the temperature in the region, advancing the ceasefire negotiations or stopping these attacks by hezbollah, israel, iran, the for tat attacks we've been seeing over the last few

months tells you just how unaffected are ineffective. excuse me. that american diplomacy has been okay so on the ceasefire negotiations then, do you think that this attack and the prospect of maybe a wider war on its northern border will be an incentive for israel to come to an agreement. >> now there's no reason to believe that. and i'll tell you why the idea that these attacks were going to push prime minister netanyahu towards a deal have not really played out in that way. we've seen over the last ten months that instead of engaging in good faith negotiations, prime minister netanyahu's own negotiators, israeli negotiators have complained that he has stymied a deal time and time again, that he keeps adding new conditions to bring the parties farther apart to

the point where now ten months into this conflict there is no there's no sort of sign that the parties are coming any closer to an agreement and the israeli negotiators themselves are blaming prime minister netanyahu for that. the problem with choosing military tactics to pressure hamas versus engaging in diplomacy is that military action begets military action. the more that you assassinate commanders, the more that you engage in this kind of warfare, the more you're going to invite similar actions from your adversaries and so on and so forth. and so the cycle that we've been seeing right now has been extremely damaging to the prospects of a negotiated diplomatic solution to the conflict in the region. >> and because no one party has paid too heavy of a price and their opinion, they will continue to do so in any conflict and specifically in

the middle east, as we've seen over decades the, the only reason that a party to the conflict would stop engaging in military action is if the price exact, the price exacted on it was too high for them to bear and we haven't gotten to that point yet where we've seen a high price either exerted or any leverage exerted and on the israelis, on hamas by their, by their patrons or on iran for that matter, the parties feel that they can still continue to engage in military action without having to pay too heavy of a price we'll see if that changes really appreciate your insights. >> jasmine el-gamal, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me now. >> so has made a decision on the two starliner astronauts stuck on the space station okay. how they'll get back home when and why? lots ahead. stay with us still have

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and then having the tough discussions that go along with processing that data and coming to conclusions. >> now, so officials there announcing that boeing's starliner capsule isn't safe enough to bring two astronauts home which will more and suni williams have been stuck on the international space station since june because of technical issues with the spaceship, nasa says a capsule from boeing competitor spacex will bring them home in february earliest. meanwhile, boeing's starliner will fly home empty. if the uncrewed ship goes well, nasa could still certify starliner for human spaceflight authorizing it for routine trips to orbit. despite not completing its mission as intended. >> all right. >> for more on this, i'm joined by former nasa astronaut mike massimo. thank you so much for being here with us. so just broadly, what do you make of this decision here? >> i think it was the right one and explained a pretty well in

the press conference safety is the number one concern. and there were some concerns about the starliner festers in particular and they felt the prudent thing to do is to make this decision to bring starliner home empty what do you think that'll mean for the iss to have to accommodate two extra astronauts for much longer than planned well, the two astronauts, it's gonna be two extra typically has a crew of seven. >> they also go out through a crew of 11 during handovers for the when they do a spacex dragon hand over or up to accrue of ten when they do a soyuz hand over. so it's not necessarily unusual to have more than a typical crew of seven up there for the long term, for the longer term, it's going to be only two astronauts coming up on the spacex vehicle. so it'll be, it'll be a crew of seven for most of that time, but they have plenty of supplies, they have plenty of room. >> the logistics worked out.

>> it's not what nasa would have liked they they sat a little disappointed and having to make this decision that they can't complete the test mission with the crew inside. but as far as the activities on the space station, they will go along as planned and crew butch and sunny will join the two astronauts coming up in september to execute another expedition that's why there'll be up there six months longer. >> yeah. but for those two astronauts mean you're an astronaut. i mean, there's a big difference between preparing to be up there for a couple of days and then being up there for eight months. i mean, how difficult psychologically and physically will that be for them? >> i can't really speak for them. i think if it was me up there in some ways, you're excited about getting some more time in space and in the other, in the other side of it, you're going to be missing out on things at home, especially when your family thought you're going to be home after a little over a week. most likely, but you also prepare for this a little i mean, as far as being able to do it, they are fully trained up to do it and they

know it's a possibility. this was a bit of a bigger delay, i think than anyone expected though but now that the decision has been made, i think they can move forward. i think i might've been tougher for the past few weeks, not knowing exactly what was going to happen but now that decision has been made and they can mentally prepare and so can their families on the ground for the logistics, then to get them back. i understand that not everything is interchangeable between the boeing and spacex system. so what has to be done to get them back and different vehicle well, the major thing is going to be getting a space suits ready for them. apparently they have one space suit on board that'll work on the spacex suit on board that will fit one of them. they're going to fly up another one that's the major piece of it is making sure that they can be a space should be shooted for the way home. and that was something i mentioned in the press conference yesterday. they still need one of those suits to come up, but other than that, i think the training is

going to be minimal for them to go from where they were at the boeing vehicle to spacex and they've thought about this. they plan for now, at least as a as a backup for the last couple of weeks speaks so i think all that's going to work out fine. >> we heard there in the press conference, the nasa officials kind of downplaying this, saying this is a test flight. we're, we're expecting perhaps problems to happen, but, but for boeing, which has faced so many setbacks, i mean, where does this leave them and their space program? >> well, they've been a partner for nasa for a very long time, particularly in the space. show, us space station program for over 20 years now, where we've had people living on board the space station, boeing has been the prime contract, so the partnership is strong between nasa and boeing you know, this again, is disappointing, but i don't think the story is over yet as you said, they plan to fly boeing spaceship again they have to get it back first and

take more, get more test data. the undock he's going to be very interesting, i think is they're gonna have to fire up the propulsion module again and do some maneuvering and get the vehicle back safely, even though it's no one inside these of course, they want to get that vehicle back. i think that will give them a lot of important data. and then they'll look at the vehicle and do some more testing on the ground and then get ready to fly again, i think that's what's going to happen. and if all that happens successfully will remember this, but i i think what will be more important is that the vehicle is operating as planned in the future right now, that's not the case. but the story is not written yet. there's still a ways to go here. >> yeah, absolutely. as long as those astronauts come back safe, i guess that's all that matters. former nasa astronaut mike massimino. thank you so much for speaking with us. really appreciate it. >> you bet all right. >> before we go, taylor swift has been reflecting on the european leg of her era's tour, which ended with tightened security. >> it shows wembley stadium in london earlier this week, now

came after three shows in vienna, austria were canceled due to a thwarted terror attack a commenting on the incident for the first time earlier this week, swift said, quote, the reason for the cancellations filled me with a new sense of fear. she added, i was also so grateful to the authorities because thanks to them, we were grieving concerts and not lives three teenagers have been detained in connection with the alleged plot. swift will resume her tour in miami in october alright. that wraps this hour of cnn newsroom. i'm kim brunhuber for viewers here in the united states and in canada, cnn this morning is next for the rest of the world. >> it's call to earth summer means millions flock to america's national parks. >> but nature can turn disastrous when tourists is crossed the line. >> she started by my left leg, my initial thought was

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