country. >> exclusive interview with cnn plus this you didn't want to go in alone? how do you think president xi is going to deport donald trump weighs in on harris is interview while slamming her for not scheduling one sooner this i think it would be to the benefit as the american public, to have a member of my cabinet was a republican harris vowing to bring in the first voices of elected and that could include a republican and later did you take pictures with us, sir? >> i should absolutely. i did top addressing the controversy, arlington cemetery after he was accused of breaking the law during a moment with gold star families

for kasie hunt. it's great to be with you. another first in the whirlwind presidential campaign of kamala harris and tim walz. their first interview together since taking over the top of the ticket i think that people are ready for a new way forward now in a sit down would desk cnn's dana bash in georgia, both wall harris and walz answered pointed questions about the goals and policies they have for a new administration if they win, including her change of heart on issues like fracking let's be clear, my values have not changed. i believe it is very important that we take seriously what we must do to guard against what is a clear crisis in terms of the climate? when i have seen is that we can we can grow and we can increase a thriving clean energy economy without banning fracking harris

was also asked about what she would do on day one if she becomes america's 47th president day one, it's gonna be about one implementing my plan for what i call an opportunity economy. >> i've already laid out a number of proposals in that regard which include what we're going to do to bring down the cost of everyday goods, where we're going to do to invest in america's small businesses. what we're going to do to invest in families now while america watched harris his first interview as a presidential nominee. >> her opponent also seen we tuning in as the interview concluded, some fired off this one word, take, boring. and earlier in the day, he also went after harris for delaying interviews you have to, as president, you have to be able to do, you're dealing with the toughest smartest, most ruthless people in the world if you can't do an interview we get the wrong person all right. >> joining me now to discuss all of this, alex thompson, cnn political analyst and national

political reporter for axios. matt brown, national race and politics reporter for the associated press kate bedingfield, cnn political commentator and former biden white house communications director, and brad todd, republican strategist morning. thanks for joining me early this morning. all right. so alice, you talked to the harris campaign quite regularly that you know what their objectives were coming in. did they accomplish what they wanted to do in his big first interview? >> yeah. which is basically they wanted to say they finally did the first they can do not have anything, any sort of viral clip that their opponents can see sign. >> i can tell you that there was among biden aides, harris aides, democrats across town that the main attitude was because essentially some of his worst moments as vice president have been in these interviews that she can get a little bit on her back foot, that she can get nervous and have these sort of birol word-salad clips. now they i don't think everyone was saying this was an a plus, but they basically got through it and that was the one thing that

comes up over and over again is this old camila or new comma, old camilla's the 2019, 2020, 2021 comma, where she would have some of those moments like this new comma, the one that we've seen the last six weeks have been incredibly dynamic on the stump. that is really rally democratic party behind her and that sort of the main anxiety going around going on among democrats. >> but republicans had hoped that does she do this interview in part because protections you could stumble, we could change some of the trajectory in this race still we have seen over the past month, did anything change in the aftermath of last night? >> i think we saw why it took her 35 days to do an interview. she was mushy, she was weak and it was artificial. it felt contrived the whole way into second sentence, she said, we need a new way forward, but she's incumbent vice president, so she made the case for change in her second sentence into the interview i don't think it worked out very well for oh, see, i disagree and i actually think i think she did more than just get through it. i think she there were a couple of things that she really had to do. there

were high stakes here. there were certainly high expectations laid out for her and she had to answer these big questions about changes in her positions from 2019 and also how she's going to handle this question of being vice president how are you the change candidate if you are the vice president and i actually thought she did both of those things quite effectively. i mean, she really articulated i thought a great case for a change from the kind of politics we've seen over the last decade. i mean, she really kind of laid laid that kind of at the foot of trump and really drew this contrast between, you know, i'm the change candidate. donald trump is not, he's the one who represents the way we've been doing things for the last decade, really since he came on the scene, which i thought was smart and effective. and then on this question of, you know, you're the vice president. i thought she really went to she made a really forceful case for some of the best things that she and president biden have been able to do in the white house. she didn't seem like she was because, you know, running away from the person that she served with for four years, which i think there's an integrity element to that, a character element to that, that

voters absorbed. so those were two really tricky things that she had to hold it. i thought she did quite well. >> yeah. >> and it just some of the reviews from the right, obviously, not very positive as we heard from brad here, but but, this comment that she made about her values not changing, she was asked as we played earlier about the fact that she has changed for positions on some of these key issues, whether it's about fracking or about somebody else sees so there are values have not changed. the wall street journal conservative editorial board wrote this morning said, my values he's have not changed. she said more than once in a practice answer that can be read any way you want. we take it as a studied wink to her left flank that she's on their side. they can't say so clearly until she's elected. do you think that folks on the left will see it that way? >> well, we definitely know that progressives are far more satisfied with the harris campaign at this point, then i think that they were expecting to be it should there should biden have steps down at the same time though i think that

that answer is a bit of a rorschach test is the wall street journal is pointing out there, which is that if you're a moderate, you can see that. okay. well, she did step away from those positions that she took in 2019 but if you're a progressive, you can say, well, okay. maybe she still has the political instincts that we like, and that's honestly probably going to be the more frustrating thing for republicans as they attacker, but then also a question for voters as they, as they say, well, how do we navigate this person and i'm who were about to give the most powerful office in the world to dana, gave her plenty of chances to say she was wrong about fracking. she didn't want to do that. she's saying i can't be for it right now because she hasn't election ahead. dana gave her plenty of chances to say she was wrong when she said we shouldn't criminalize border per crossings, she wouldn't do that she gave her plenty of chances to renounce the things joe biden did on his first day to stop fracking she didn't do that. i didn't think at this was designed to move her past the mistakes of 2019, 2020. i didn't hear her do that at all. wasn't very strong in before you jump in here, kate, i want to do your mentioned the border crossings issue that wasn't exchange between dana bash add kamala harris last night. let's see

how the vice president responded in 2019, when you first ran, there was a debate. you raised your hand when asked whether or not the border should be decriminalized? do you, still believe that i believe there should be consequences we have laws that have to be followed and enforced that address and deal with people who cross our border illegally. >> and there should be consequences. i would enforce our laws as president going forward, i recognize the problem i mean, how do you explain that? to her reconciling good position she took running in the democratic primary to now as a general election candidate well, she's pretty clear. >> i mean, she says there should be consequences and people should not cross the border illegally. i mean, she says that in the answer if she uses the word illegal. so if we're going to start parsing, what does she mean by this word and that word? here's the word illegal in the answer. >> she also, we didn't play it here, but as in part of this answer, she talked about being attorney general in a border state enforcing laws in a

border state. >> she went back to her own experience which predated her time in 2019. and then she also used this answer to pivot to donald trump trump wrecking the bipartisan border security bill and she really actually went to a forward-looking i thought more offensive frame on what she would do as president and the responsibility that she believed that donald trump and the republicans have four destroying the chances at getting that bill done. so i thought she actually navigated this quite well. she was she went back to an answer that was rooted in her time in public service and she made very clear that she believes there should be consequences and i think that was i think that was a strong answer. will be on the parsing of this particular answer. the fact is that when she was running for years ago and kate remember this working for joe biden than she was not introducing herself as a border state prosecutor that took on multinational gangs. and even if you think that her position is good now, the fact is that

her pitch to voters is very different than it was five years ago. >> no question. but i think the other way she tackled that across the board and answering these questions it's interview was to say you know, i've spent four years in the white house learning how to get things done. and so i thought that's the other piece of her answer on the on the values thing that we haven't talked about yet. she said, you know, my values haven't changed, but i have learned how to get things done and i've learned about finding consensus and that you have to be able to get things done to move forward. and so that that is the important second piece here that lets her say, you know, i am a different candidate than i wasn't 2019 because i've spent four years in the white house getting things done. >> i think she she's going to own what the biden record of getting things done on the border. i think republicans are gonna be ecstatic about that. and when she goes back to her experience as ag that's memory holding the last four years it's a big case of amnesia where she had was given a prominent role in stopping illegal crossings at the border i don't think it's going to fly and i think the longer that this race dwells on immigration and border enforcement, the

worse it is for kamala harris. >> but cross it's important to note. i mean, she was responsible for migration from the northern triangle. crossings are down from those countries treason northern triangle since she took that portfolio. so we're going to talk about the numbers, then we should to be fair to her, we should talk about the numbers is this is the thing. this is the thing we're washington's disconnect with america i think is really stark for americans is the border closed in our people still coming across illegally? that's the question in this administration's record on. that's terrible and it's started on their first day when they reverse don't trump's immigration can you talk more about that later on as you do you want to quiet quit? >> i just i just in the wake of the executive order being implemented, numbers are down and you cannot argue that republicans have been acting in good faith on trying to find solutions here in an election year. so if we're going to be if we're gonna be talking about immigration as a political issue, republicans have to own and donald trump has to own his part in ensuring that congress didn't take any meaningful steps to fix the ground. >> one thing is clear, trump is still leading though on immigration and we'll see if she's able to close that margin and how much it impacts voters come november, want to talk morabout this later in

the show and a lot more about the interview to digest and just don't forget just a few hours you're going to hear from donald trump's running mate, senator jd vance is going to be joining cnn live, respond to harris and walz's first interview. you can watch that on cnn news central in the 8:00 a.m. hour. i'll coming up next on cnn this morning. if elected, kamala harris is looking for a presence of bipartisanship why she says it's important to have a republican inner cabinet plus the rules are laid out, but there is still some pushback about if those might actually be muted or live at the next debate and governor tim walz addressing that cure durkee moment from his dnc speech when his son gus, cheered him on, shouting, quote, that's my dad. >> it was just such a visceral emotional moment that i'm i'm just i'm grateful i got to experience it and i'm so proud of him monday night, a two-hour whole story special, the

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opinion. i think it's important to have people at the table and when some of the most important decisions are being made that have different views, different experiences. and i think it would be to the benefit of the american public to have a member of my cabinet who was a republican republicans actually not exactly embracing that harris offered to appoint one of their own to her cabinet so she says she wants republicans in her cabinet. >> she loves diversity of views. i mean, it has kamala brought you into the west wing and asked about your conservative viewpoint or any of your colleagues? >> no, of course not. she's on the far opposite end of the spectrum great panel is back, so all right, now that's what do you think is this a good idea? >> i mean, look, this is not unusual. this has been not the president in the last couple of presidencies, but about she clearly the strategy of course, is that she needs republicans, she needs those moderate

republicans skeptical of donald trump is an effective strategy i mean, this is a well-worn strategy and an effective one in past presidencies, it's very normal to say, i'm going to point and member of the opposite party. and then usually it's sort of one of not necessarily certainly insignificant, but sort of those bottom tier cabinet post. >> you're talking about department of transportation, department of commerce, no offense to those departments, but they're not usually as prominent as those big three treasury department, defense department that being said, what you're basically seeing kamala harris be able to do by the fact that she didn't have to do a primary issues only basis typically, doing a general election run to the center the democratic party is incredibly united right now, you look at every single poll. it's like 90% approval rating, excited to vote for her. so what she's doing right now is like, okay, well, we already have the democratic party unified. let's go to the center. this is just one of many moves she's been doing that's the benefit of not having run on a primary. she's got to reconcile the positions primaries, that's kind of it

issue, but still she get it's a great point. i mean, she could just focus on trying to court the middle, right? >> absolutely. and this is this is book messaging and policy. i mean, you know, there's not any shortage of republicans who she could be picking for this visit. i mean, vermont's republican governor, for instance, as well to the left of you know, many democrats in her own party. so the question here is really how, what message is can she make to overture for the moderate voters that she needs in states like georgia, like michigan, like pennsylvania, to really win them over and saying that i'm i welcome you misled you and i can even select one of your own to be included in my governing coalition is something that i think really does show that she is trying to go now that she's consolidated the base, now that for instance, younger people, people of color have come back into the fold, who are these? the voters who were not as energized when joe biden was the top of the ticket you're really seeing i'm herb say, okay, well now we can go for the moderates, go for the former republicans, go for the people who were the core of the gop. >> chairman, i want to ask you, biden did not i'm a republican to his cabinet. trump didn't. never democratic to his cabinet, but george w bush

said, no, my dad and the part of the bomb i had a couple. so why didn't biden do that? >> some of it is just picking the right people that you believe are the people for the job in the moment, regardless of party, there was never an intentional you know decision to say we're not going to select a republican. he looked around and picks the people that he thought were going to be best for those jobs for their respective agencies but i do think this is it is really smart politics and and certainly it appeals to voters in the middle of no question, but actually, i think this is one of the things that often gets lost in this moment. of hyper-partisanship in our politics, people tend to believe that democratic voters only want to see democrats and only want to score points. that's actually not true. and i biden's candidacy in 2019 was actually sort of a test of this hypothesis within the democratic party to actual democratic voters, not the chattering class, not pundits, not accurate diverse, but actual democratic voters want to see bipartisanship a lot more than it feels like they do in the national conversation.

and that's one of the things that she i think is being really smart in seizing on here, people actually want to see their elected officials work across the aisle, even you, know loyal democratic voters who are going to vote democrat up and down the ticket. >> i think that's actually her problem. i mean, she's the leftmost key to that for president, we've ever had run, maybe george mcgovern in 1972 was equally left. i think that this whole notion of a republican who had got my gun or cabinet, it's a shiny object because when she was in the senate, she was ranked number 100 out of 100 is how far left she was. she when she ran in 2020 shooters, the leftmost candidate on the stage, maybe save bernie sanders. this is a real problem for her audiology. if trump will choose it, if he will run his campaign on ideology, he will whip her. but remember began hello, dive into that a little bit more later as well. so still ahead for us on cnn this morning, army now weighing in on what happened at arlington national cemetery earlier this week the latest on that back and forth between the trump campaign aide and a cemetery worker. and this i'm

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still in discussions and pushing back on that issue. >> but i think it's comical because we thought that this issue was closed. but unfortunately, donald trump's handlers are telling him that his mic has been muted. so we hope that he shows up. he said himself that he didn't care. he wanted the mics unmuted and then his team back that backtrack that. we really don't know what the problem is that highly anticipated debate, of course, scheduled for september 10 labor day weekend is almost here and it could bring cooler temperatures. >> thankfully, for many across the united states, let's go right to cnn's meteorologist derek van dam with your holiday forecast. so derek, which parts of the country should be taken shelter in which should be enjoying those? barbecues outside. >> good question. so it depends on what day of the holiday weekend you're really talking about the cooler weather is actually going to be confined to the eastern seaboard. but before we transition from the warmth to the cooler weather, we got to get through some showers and thunderstorms, but i think labor day looking very nice across the northeastern parts of the u.s. if you'd like

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federal ban on fracking on your first day in office and you said there's no question. i'm in favor of banning fracking so yes. so it changed in that campaign in 2020, i made very clear where i stand. we are in 2024 and i've not changed their position or will and going forward i kept my word and i will keep my word harris is original stance on fracking could have proven politically damaging in pennsylvania in that must-win state where that process for fuel, fossil fuel extraction is a major issue. >> of course, that is a must win for her or trump as they battle for the white house and the latest polling out of the state chose harris is outpacing trump 50 to 47 joining me now, pennsylvania republican congressman dan meuser, who joins me from pennsylvania congressman. it's nice to see you. thank you so much for joining me early this morning. i suppose the on issue of fracking, you don't quite by her explanation ayesha in butler, she and joe biden, they did not ban fracking when they were in the white house over

the last several years, do you think though that voters may give her a pass on this may say fine. she's changed her position and she doesn't support banning fracking a man of great being with you. yeah. i mean, certainly last night it appears she avoided a train wreck and frankly, some of the follow-up questions and really i don't mean to criticize, we're just nonexistent, particularly on fracking. so what, what made the vice president change your mind. that's a fair question. and then what is your energy plan? do you have an understanding of what the energy needs and demands are of the united states and how does natural gas, particularly from pennsylvania or anywhere in the u.s how does domestic energy we're into that and see that's the biggest thing. i think that there was really no there was no detail. i think they spoke about energy for maybe 30 seconds. they cover the border for about two-and-a-half minutes. the economy was about two minutes as well. i think the american people just have a real trust issue with the vice president.

we certainly do in pennsylvania, we can get there's some of those details clearly a make-over is underway. some people refer to that as a big con taking place right? really what she's much he's leading in pennsylvania according to polls that has to concern you, does not bode because she hasn't done an interview last night. >> the you don't know who's going. everything to make sure very informed on where she stands on i'm zach, what we had on firearms gay firearms, madison, republicans and democrats throughout the country as well as what she said she's going have a mandatory buyback. what happened with again, a stand why the issues with israel i mean, she's now, it's a plan for biden, not just to 0.0.

>> biden four point comes from, i do want to ask you about another notable moment from that interviews she was asked about donald trump's comments about her race, about her quote, turning black, that's what donald trump had set up but our what would gee, had to say what i want to ask you about is what he said last month, he suggested that you happened to turn black recently for political purposes, questioning a core part of your identity any same old tired playbook. next question, please it congressman, as you advise donald trump, going forward, do you think that he should stay away, steer clear from raising questions about her racial identity you know, i can't really speak to that. >> i'm not sure what went even context that the president was

served with former president was going there. >> i don't think there's any question a policy debate on the border. >> why is the vice president kamala harris? for amnesty, how in the world do you think that's a good thing? how do you think it's a good thing that 3 million illegals have are crossing the border this year and they're claiming to have some control. how can you just blame it on some legislation that would have done nothing matters. you know this we talk in washington that was like investing in more buckets and not stopping the flooding all that all that legislation was going to do was increased cvp. so as processing and resettlements could take place, it was not going to fix a problem. it was done to fix a political problem. so that's nonsense in my book and it's nonsense in the american people's book, we got serious problems. i was with the state trooper last night who says all he's pulling over to the illegals who don't have licenses and don't have insurance. okay. so we got real problems with our economy and our national security and our

border. and our energy policy. and last night we certainly didn't hear any solutions to those you know, congressman that bill of course, was drafted by a conservative republican senator james lankford, along with democrats, he would disagree with your contention there, but that's a discussion for another time. >> i do want to ask you about another controversy that trump campaign has been dealing with. and that's this incident that occurred at arlington national cemetery earlier this week, the former president's is marking the anniversary the abbey attack and afghanistan, the family of a deceased veteran has expressed how upset they were with trump for their questions about whether that appearance was actually legal and whether it violated all international cemetery rules that army, of course, as you know, rebuilt the trump campaign. yes. today for taking the video and photographic that off-limit area of arlington national cemetery, do you think the trump campaign should

acknowledge that they did something wrong here? >> as a matter of we care a lot about our veterans in pennsylvania. we care very much for those in on active duty. and frankly to the earlier question, in pennsylvania, we voted for obama and overwhelming way it is truly about content of character from my constituents. and for the vast, vast, vast majority of pennsylvania ends. and certainly not the color of the skin or somebody's origins. and what happened yesterday. look, come on. i mean, this is this is a media floyd in whatever whatever occurred there, it's nonsense, it's meaningless. we've got serious issues. we've got, we've got hostages held in gaza. we've got a ukrainian war that the american people are asked to pay $150 billion for, that the biden-harris administration barely even talks about they don't talk about the hostages. they don't talk about a fentanyl killing. our young, particularly young americans. >> we got serious issues.

that's a sideshow. what occurred there alright, congressman dan meuser of pennsylvania, republican. >> thank you so much for joining me this morning. appreciate you sharing your views. straight ahead on cnn this morning, more from kamala harris is sit down, interview with cnn's dana bash. what she said about the that fateful phone call with her president biden when he told her he was dropping out of the race. plus donald trump defends its photo op at all, and ten is the u.s us army issued a sharp criticism for his actions so i go there. >> they asked me to have a picture. they say i always campaigning. >> i don't need the one thing i get is plenty of publicity. i don't need that we're hoping programs expect some radical industry streaming exclusively on max are you ready to connect to a perfect journey with turkish airlines? to feel

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donald trump, once again, looking to get his hush money case new york moved to federal court and a new motion filed this week. trump's lawyers argued sentencing for the convictions should be put on hold while the appeal plays out. sentencing is set for september 18, steve bannon asking a judge for an early release from prison while he continues to challenge his contempt of congress conviction a former trump aide is serving a four month sentence for buying a rational subpoena and set to be released october 29 now know when boeing starliner spacecraft will return to earth without its crew nasa says it will leave the international space station next friday but which woman and suni williams will remain on board? but at least february of next year and we are tracking the ongoing saga about what happened arlington national cemetery, this week between the trump campaign and workers, there are monday, trump was invited to the cemetery by some of the families of the 13 service members who died and suicide

bombing during that chaotic evacuation of janice sam three years ago, he attended a wreath laying ceremony at the tomb of the unknown soldiers. when the families brought the former president. does section 60 a part of one origin or foreign veterans of iraq and afghanistan wars are buried here photography is much more restricted cemetery workers stepped in to stop campaign officials from filming we didn't to an incident. now the army meeting to this incident which the army says, quote, participants in the august 26 ceremony and the substance subsequent section 60 visit were made aware of federal laws, army regulations, and dod policies which clearly prohibit political activities on cemetery grounds. an anc employee who attempted to ensure adherence to these rules was abruptly pushed aside. this incident was unfortunate in response, trump campaign manager chris lacivita posting on x, calling army leadership hacks. trump also defended his visit during a campaign rally they asked me to have a picture

and they say i always campaigning. >> i don't need the one thing i get is plenty of publicity. i don't need that i don't need the publicity all right. >> with us now on this friday with cnn political commentator, michael smerconish. of course, he is the host of cnn's smerconish, michael. so good to see you on this friday morning. so what is your take? on this controversy? do you think it'll have any impact on this campaign? >> manu, great to see you as well. my take on this is that i think it's great that the president accompanied the gold-star families in section 60 that he would go that he would he would pay homage on the anniversary of losing 13, that that's all terrific. and the fact that they wanted photographs taken with him for their personal use and purpose. that's a good thing as well. i get it. i think we want to do more things like that. the problem is that the video then gets used for a political purpose and that's totally at odds with the standard though law that would apply to

arlington and other sacred ground. so it never should have ended up in tiktok. and for that he needs to be held accountable. but i don't want to send the wrong message. the message is one of revering american heroes, but there was a line crossed here in my mind. there's no doubt and a very rare statement from the army to put up that step statement rebuking the trump campaign really remarkable to see there, but i do want to switch gears to, of course, that big interview last night they harris walz interview. >> what do you think michael did she accomplish what she needed to do given the stakes of the interview and people waiting for this sit down to actually occur to hear from the democratic nominee for the first time in a sit down like that as well. how do you think she performed in this? is this what the campaign needed? >> so i think the headline today is that there is no headline, right? that there was really no news made from the event other than the fact that it occurred after her being the democratic candidate for there

about a month she achieved her purpose, which is that the two of us right now are not discussing any viral video hypocrite craddock oath first rule, do no harm. it applies to politics there was not a stumble that everybody is pointing to today. that's a good thing for her. did she resolve questions about her ability to think in real time on her feet, unscripted. i don't think entirely that she did bottom line is it's a rorschach test and partisan since they're going to look at it and fined in it, whatever they wanted to find in it how do you think she should handle her media strategy going forward? >> so did you do more, sit down, sit, or if you're obviously as reporters, we want her to sit down and talk and answer questions really every day she should and she should answer voters questions. but if you're a political strategist perhaps you want to prevent those viral moments for happening. how do you see this playing out in the weeks ahead? >> i don't think she's been accessible to the extent that she owes it to the american people. i think she has an

obligation running for the highest office in the land to make herself available to journalists. and to voters having said that, if i were whispering in her ear as a campaign strategist to your question, i guess i'd say continue to do what you're doing because it appears to be working for her but at some point, i think she's got an obligation to take more questions in real time from voters, townhalls for example, like donald trump did last night yeah and we'll see if she decides to do just that. michael smerconish. thank you so much for sharing your views always good to remember to tune in. of course, tomorrow 9:00 a.m. eastern for smerconish honest right here on cnn turning now to this i'm announcing today and a major statement that under the trump administration, your government will pay for all your insurance company we'll, be mandated to pay for all costs associated with ivf treatment,

fertilization for women ivf donald trump, who boasted about his role in overturning roe v. >> wade. now, turning somewhat more moderate on the issue of reproductive rights in addition to promising free ivf treatments and tax deductions for newborn expenses? not exactly saying how they'll be paid for, but the former president also softening his stance on abortion fights, signaling he is leery about florida's six-week abortion ban it has to be more time and show that. and i've told them that i want more weeks failed vote in favor of the amendment. >> i'm voting that i am going to the voting that we need more than six weeks as campaign later clear that trying to walk that back liberal, but saying he had not make a decision on how this vote in the referendum will occur in florida, how he would vote as a florida voter. >> but you, brad, what do you think about him trying to changes possession. if you will, or moderate its position

of it on some of these key roper, right? issues that must they must be seeing some polling that they're concerned about. >> i think the fact that he's leading on ivf is pretty important. you know, dave mccormick who is running in pennsylvania, has already proposed or $15,000 tax refundable tax credit for anyone using ivf. i think you're going to see a lot more clarity that republicans are fully in support of ivf because we want to help people bring babies into this world. i think that's a positive development, but it's clearly concerned that he's getting hit on this and he's got to respond. >> well, democrats said they were going to use ivf. it was going to be the new issue for them this time, but it was always wrong because there was always pretty good consensus among republicans to support it. and i think now you're going to i see that candlelight is it's going to be an effective strategy republicans who are up in arms about kamala harris shifting positions from her 2019 physicians during the primary, like, where are you change of view? consistency. i mean, no, look, this is donald trump who has said time and time again, how proud he has to put three justices on the supreme court who overturned roe. so the idea that he's

going to throw out this policy proposal, which by the way, the government paying for or insurance companies being mandated to pay for our two wildly different things. but he who lived through the affordable care act fights knows those are those are not those are different policy proposals. so i'm not sure this is a serious policy proposal. these putting forward here. but more importantly from a messaging perspective, this is not going to be sufficient to erase in voters minds the fact that he is responsible for where we are for on reproductive freedom in this country right now. and he has bragged many, many, many times about it. and i think democrats are going to keep reminding voters of that. they're going to keep reminding suburban women of that. and i don't think this is something that he's going to be able to walk away from. it. >> speaking of women voters before you jump in, just the quinnipiac poll, women and men, how they view harris versus trump clear sign that there's a 20.21 point advantage that harris has over trump with women, trump about similar advantage with men, but that's obviously the trump campaign,

you got to die in that marchand i mean, historic gender gap. we're seeing in the striking thing about this is that people, reporters have been asking the trump campaign and trump about this florida referendum for a long time. >> he is still not set it is still not set, but now he's sort of tiptoeing and being like, well, i don't like the current policy, but but i'm still not going to tell you exactly how i'm going to vote that back. the matter is that now it does appear that he is incredibly worried that the race changed with biden dropping out. and now a woman at the top of the ticket, when it comes to abortion rights, especially a woman who has been on the forefront of the administration's push on abortion rights. clearly, the vector that he didn't both to florida. the florida referendum sort of statement. plus he's doing ivf for all. it has really sort of on the same day suggests that they need they think this has been need to close the gender gap. >> and just to pull about who can handle abortion better wall street journal asked that question to registered voters. recent poll august 24 to 28, 20

points. harris has the advantage over trump, one of the handful of issues that she is leading on. but how many of those voters do you think are actually? already in the harris camp who believe that era abortion is the biggest issue that they're voting on. >> the question here is going to be not whether voters trust harris necessarily more on abortion here, but whether that's going to be the defining issue for them in which is what trump is trying to do here. i'm coming out with ivf for all as you say, to make the issue less salient here, to make it a bit more money on which person is going to be more in your interest on i'm questions of reproductive rights. will republicans are seen as coming at a question that a lot of women are deeply alienated by becomes the most salient question and it becomes what is going to move them into harris is camp, whereas if this is a bit of a question where the republican party is divided on this internally, it's going to be interesting to see if there'll be able to have the message discipline as a party to convey this. but if they if they can, then it might be that the economy or immigration shan, or other issues are going to be the top thing that people will be voting on it. >> i will say one of the more

personal moments from yesterday's interview with kamala harris, the democratic nominee reflected on our conversation with president biden when he broke the news her that he was ending his presidential bid. harris went on to commend biden for not only his accomplishments in office, but also praises care i think history is going to show not only has joe biden lead an administration that has achieved those extraordinary successes but the character of the man is one that he has been in his life and career, including as a president quite selfless and puts the american people first how does she navigate trying to be the change candidate, but also being the incumbent vice president. well, i thought she did it quite definitely, actually because she really defined can we were talking about this a little bit? the top of the show, but she really defined change as a change from the ugly politics of trump. and

what we've seen as we've seen in our politics, corrode over the last decade. and i thought she was smart about kind of setting that up as the changed dynamic while also saying joe biden has served honorably. i've been proud to serve with him. he's a man of character. i think she did a good job not looking like she was in a moment of political opportunity going to walk away from somebody who look, i was there, i saw them they had a really productive governing partnership and anna good friendship. and so i think that that shone through, i think when voters watched interviews like this, they're also trying to glean who is this person and so i think what she did was demonstrate that she is a person of integrity and character who is not going to throw joe biden over the high side in a moment of political opportunism. so i thought she actually handled that quite definitely. >> i suppose brad as a grades, but i die. would you take you disagree. i've sure will say thank you guys so much for joining me. i want to thank you for watching us as well. i'm on rodgers cnn news central starts