solomon in new york and this is cnn hello again and welcome. it's time to break down the big stories with some smart people. today, we're asking, after all the pressure to sit for an interview, did kamala harris do enough to address her flip-flops on key issue then moving to the middle will break down donald trump's flips on abortion and ivf, which many pro lifers don't seem to have a problem with and later pricing pumpkin potable how falls, favorite coffee drank is outpacing inflation. the panel here is here and ready to go. so sit back, relax and let's talk about it. >> up first. kamala harris on the campaign trail this labor day weekend after her first interview since becoming the democratic nominee. and why, while she cleared the hurdle

without any major fumbles some critics say it wasn't enough i think people are ready to turn the page on that. kamala harris billing herself as the candidate of change, and answering questions for the first time in this campaign about some of her reversals on progressive policies, like a ban on fracking. >> my values have not i changed when i have seen is that we can, we can grow and we can increase a thriving clean energy economy without banning fracking but he gave a similar answer, defending her flip on illegal immigration from 2019 you raised your hand when asked whether or not the border should be decriminalized? do you still believe that? >> i believe there should be consequences we have laws. my value around what we need to do to secure our border. that value has not changed. >> donald trump quickly weighed in, saying the interview confirmed how roses far-left values and her status as a flip-flopper.

>> she's probably goes back to her room and gets sick to her stomach when she says what she has to say because she's a marxist, that harris making clear she doesn't want to be drawn into a food fight with trump over race or gender he suggested that you happened to turn black recently for political purposes. same old, tired playbook next question, please here with me today. >> podcaster, journalist and author kara swisher conservative pollster and new york times opinion writer kristen soltis anderson new york times journalist and host of the interview podcast, lulu garcia navarro and national review editor in chief rich lowry. welcome everyone, especially rich. >> and it's a first-timer. thank you. >> i'll try not to disappoint will have a good time. >> kara. >> did harris do what she needed to do in the interview, you've got to do a lot of interviews. >> i think i think it was fine. there were no fumbles and she answered relatively well. she seemed you know, khan, she was quite calm. she she foisted up

a bunch of questions that were about the past and i thought she did that pretty well. i don't think it did any damage, no harm, no foul kind of interested do any good. it didn't need to necessarily she needs to do a lot of them. i think she should do local ones. i think she should do it all over the place, but yeah, because it didn't do or bad, that's why because it's fine. >> breastfeeding do agree with kara that she did fine fine is probably the right word. >> it's clear that she is really committing to this pivot to the center the whole time i kept thinking about that. kerfuffle in 2012 when mitt romney was going from the primary to the general and his campaign said, oh, it's like an extra sketch. we're just going to flip it over for a shake it and it'll erase everything. it's like she's trying to erase the last time she ran in a primary and say no, no, i'm different and it may work. the two things that she said in this interview that i can easily imagine mar-a-lago high command finding useful one was she said, we needed to recover as an economy and we've done that a lot of americans don't think we've recovered as

an economy. she used that as a justification for why are positioned to change. the second thing she said repeatedly was my values have not changed and given that she has had some positions in the past that were pretty progressive, i imagine that could be viewed as a gift for republicans well, i want to pick up on that because shortly after cnn released the first clip from the interview, the trump campaign put together this ad of some of harris is greatest hits from a 2019 campaign my values match. use red meat specifically, yes, the boston marathon bomber, they shouldn't be able to vote. >> i think we should have that conversation abolish i.c.e. dams. would you banned offshore drilling? >> yes, i'm in favor of banning fracking. i am prepared to pass a grain deal, which does my values have not changed a dress her problem with flip-flops from czuba is running as a lefty in 2019, worried about bernie sanders and elizabeth warren know, i mean, it could be part of a coercion explanation of these things. but in the interview she she

said that line which clearly had been fed to her but didn't really connect to anything. she didn't explain any of these changes. a point of view and i'm not against people changing their minds as george mcgovern changed his mind on regulations. but it's because he you start a small business and he realized how burdensome it is. so there was something going on there besides just changing on eight or ten things instantly. and of course, of a couple of weeks, mostly still, just explained via staff rather than from the with the candidates own words. so this was a replacement level we'll interview. it was not terrible, but it was not impressive. and if i were the campaign might take away would be yeah, do more interviews. but local five-minute pull-aside interviews do not put on a setting where she might be significantly and in a sustained way challenge for 20 minutes because i think she'd wilt under that pressure lulu. >> well, first of all, what do you think of what rich justice ahead? >> yeah you great. >> i think she did. >> okay she didn't she seemed nervous, especially at the

beginning there had been so much pressure put on this interview. >> she waited way too long to do one. so it was like the super bowl. it didn't need to be and so she did no harm. i agree with kara, but i also agree with rich that i don't think she did anyone any favors and there's still a lot of questions that she needs to answer, but let me ask you about one of those questions. if you switch from ban on fracking to know ban, if you switch from decriminalized immigration to laws, have consequences and need to be enforced. how does that fit under my values haven't changed. >> i think exactly. i think the thing with my values hasn't changed as if she's trying the capitalize on the thing that actually voters say they like about her, which they see her as someone with leadership. they see her as someone who has integrity. things that donald trump scores very poorly on so she's trying to capitalize on that. trust me, believe me. i am a good person i'm a change candidate, right? but she

doesn't really explain what it is that xi believes in. so i'm not so concerned about fracking. i know that that's a big deal for pennsylvania. i think where it's going to become an issue is on the border because decriminalizing you know, people crossing the border illegally there are a lot of reasons to say that that's fine because of, you know things that are, you know, 22 lengthy to explain now. but it doesn't really play well to the general public in an election where the immigration really, really matters to people. >> i don't, i don't even mind people change in on two things of the people on this panel, like you've interviewed her, correct. have you entered i have never met. i don't know five times. she's getting interview no. no, i know. but she's not a welter. she's actually quite good in interviews and she had some bad ones, but she's like everybody else, she falls on. the second thing is, oddly enough, my family does fracking in pennsylvania and i asked them last night there had been in the business because the cold business and they were they are trump voters, but they were satisfied with that answer

there like okay, as long as she doesn't do it, i guess i just wonder about this all purpose answered my values haven't changed when on a lot of issues, her values or her policies have changed dramatically. if she was running then on the left and now she's wondering, i want to bring up another rescue. harris also defended the admin distractions record and talked about how proud she is to have served as vice president. here's what biden said about her at the democratic convention we've had on those extraordinary four years of progress ever. >> i say, we i mean, me now, harris and biden will be together in pittsburgh on monday labor day. kristen is it a mistake for harris to campaign with joe biden? >> i think it is. i think that bye in the interview when she was asked about having worked for him, she was pretty gracious and i think that's fine. i think having in respect for the man who chose you to be his running mate is fine. but at a certain point, his job approval is very low. voters do

not like what they have seen over the last three-and-a-half years. she's aware of that. dana bash pushed her in the interview on it and she's kind of tried to say, well, don't don't really blame me for the last three-and-a-half years, if you're out there campaigning with joe biden, that really is continuing to tie yourself to an administration that voters are simply saying, please, please, please not. >> i disagree. i disagree. i think joe biden still has a lot of pull in certain places places where she might need his help. i mean, he is still popular among certain cadres of white working class voters. that is his background. and so so i actually don't think that it is a bad thing to be seen with the sitting president of the united states. at the end of the day, she cannot hide from it, so she might as well embrace it they're doing a pittsburgh and has some residual strength in towards the end and the blue wall states. >> but i still think this is a bad idea. we'll know a lot about who's going to win this election based on who wednesday argument over who represents change. if she is changed, if she is something different than trump and biden and she's turning the page. that's huge

for her and trump has to push back against what i mean, the thing about this is not just who's the change candidate, but what are you changing from? do you want to change from division? do you want to change from chaos? that is the argument that kamala harris is making. and so therefore, she says but if you want to change and high that he is embracing that totally, it's a question of who wins that argument range from administration that a lot of people think has failed and has an approval rating that's 40%. then trump wins. so that's, that's the argument. >> all right? >> that is the argument and we have a debate in a few days, i think ten days we'll see who wins it on the third anniversary of the disastrous afghanistan withdrawal. donald trump turned a memorial into a war of words with the army. did he wrote in a political opportunity? then secrets reveal mark zuckerberg's covid confession. that's now sparked a serious debate over censorship and lighter paper or plastic. the grocery bag habit. a lot of people can't seem to

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thread the needle of a supreme court ruling president trump did find one candidate at justice, who seemed willing to do anything to help him stay in power allegations donald trump tried to recruit top justice department officials to overturn the 2020 election allegations. >> you won't find in the new indictment filed by special counsel, jack smith, i think this is a tactical retreat of sorts. >> smith trying to salvage his case after the supreme court ruled trump's dealings with justice were official acts, and therefore immune from prosecution. trump calling the revives charles our job is election interference. >> when you look at how they go weaponized against me are doing absolutely nothing wrong. >> meanwhile, trump's dealing with fallout from his visit to arlington national cemetery to honor the 13 service members killed during the afghanistan withdrawal, three years ago yesterday believing

afghanistan, the campaign took video of the event even after a cemetery staffer said federal law prohibits political activity at military cemeteries in a rare rebuke, the army issued a statement calling the incident unfortunate and defending the employee. >> they said was abruptly pushed us off i'd by campaign officials and they say, i always campaigning. the one thing i get is plenty of publicity. i don't need that lulu, let's start at the top. >> are the changes in the new trump indictment, a big deal? >> they are. it's a cleaner indictment and i think there was a big question after the supreme court ruling whether or not smith was going to really pursue this. and he is. and the fact of the matter is, is that they're going to try and take this to, you know, where it always should have been, which is into a court of law. so yeah, i think it's a big deal and i think it's going to answer a lot of questions that the supreme court left open, which are what are the limits of immunity? that was something

that they left very, very open. and this is now going to help define that rich, what i find remarkable is that based on the supreme court's ruling the accusation i'm not saying it's true, but the accusation that donald trump conspired with justice department officials to launch sham election, theft investigations, is now off the table and is immune from prosecution. i find that remarkable. >> yeah. well, their case this is our other ways to handle this, right impeachment being the main one. but the indictment largely stands. he knocked out the things regarding the justice department to try to accommodate the court's ruling, probably didn't go far enough and other ways to accommodate the court's ruling. but this thing is going to have zero effect on the election if trump doesn't win and fire him on day one, which would happen if he does win and this thing actually makes it to trial. it's going to be a trial in 2026. this is still a long ways off but every every day when new thing that he

couldn't be charged with in this new indictment because of the supreme court ruling. >> does it give you any pause about the supreme court saying that he could he could do these things and he's protected. >> well, the court's logic of the court's ruling is just so you don't want people prosecuted, presidents prosecuted for official acts barack obama drones a u.s citizen overseas and official capacity when they left or you open the other thing? >> absolutely. so that you have no sense of what the limits are. and so you could interpret it that the president is now a king or you could, all you have to define those limits and how's the president a king, or they're no more elections in america? >> well, of course there were elections, but not a cut if there isn't it, but if there are, if there is nothing that says that he can act in any way that he wants and there is no way that he can be held accountable. >> we have the entire system of checks and balances is intact, right? we're still a free country and the logic of the

court's decision has to do with preserving those checks and balances and honoring congress can't make official acts of the president illegal, right? without overstepping. it's coming constitutional bounds. so the idea that something has never happened before, they need a president prosecuted. otherwise, we're living in a monarchy is a dictatorship. what was looking about specific though we're not talking about some imaginary thing. >> we are actually talking about someone who did try and subvert the election, who did actually try to overthrow throw the transfer of power. this isn't just wasn't all bad an experiment. >> bad things supreme court has settled us. i want to talk about because there's plenty to talk about with donald trump this way. the arlington controversy, the trump and his campaign ignored a cemetery employee who tried to stop up them from campaign activity in section 60, where some of the fallen from recent wars are buried. chris kyrsten, kristen, sorry. did trump's arlington

behavior undercut his message about afghanistan and the way we got out, i think that it did. >> i think that his campaign saying we were not in the wrong and we have video to prove it. but then that video has not has mysteriously not emerged. i think it's interesting i think that this is, this is just terrible, but do i think it's actually going to affect things just think, was it two weeks ago that we were talking about trump trying to draw this weird equivalence between the medal of honor and the medal of freedom. i mean, he has sort of picked fights that people say this is going to cost him with veterans. and the community of veterans is a very politically diverse community. he has some families there. that's a yes. come with us to section 60 in these others that say no, we think this guy's a disgrace. >> all right, but it does get worse. trump took pictures smiling and giving a thumbs up at those grave sites in section 60. and his campaign attack the cemetery worker as a despicable

individual who is suffering a mental health episode carroll, all but forgotten in all of this. yeah was the 13 people 13 soldiers who died at abbey gate at the airport in concert was a political event for him. >> and then there was some scheme around kamala harris to there's always a every time he meant he manages to step in and he steps in it. and you didn't just end there with the heinous behavior? my dad was in the military until he does hi for me, this is so offensive, i can't can't believe someone did this and then pushed around. >> so but how about how about kristen's point you find it offensive. >> a lot of to top that he says, but it doesn't have to be offended. i think most people whose parents and when the military would be offended, but that's okay. you don't have to be but then he liked tops. it by doing the the other thing around kamala harris tweeting something about sexual activity, which is comparing her, hillary clinton, a really grotesque way. he just one after the next, after the next its offensive to someone

somewhere he's not adding voters, he's subtracting voters. >> well, let's talk about one way in which he is trying to add voters. he's rhonda blunt the abortion issue, which he has admitted as a tough issue since the overturning of roe v. wade and the dobbs decision, a top issue for republicans. he posted this this week. my administration will be great for women and their reproductive rights. and he gave some specifics i think the six week is too short it has to be more time. >> and so that's an i've told them that i want more weeks for people that are using ivf, which is fertilization we are governed the government is going to pay for it, or we're going to get or mandate your insurance company to pay for it now, we should point out that trump's campaign announced friday afternoon that in fact he is going to vote for continuing the six-week ban on abortion in florida. >> he's a florida resident,

but lulu, it does raise the question, how much room are pro-lifer is going to give trump to move to the center to talk about ivf, to talk talk about reproductive rights to help win the election. and if so, why are they giving up so much rho i don't think that they're giving him room. i think what we saw, in fact is that there really mad about what he has said, but he's all over the place on this issue. i mean, i was i mean, it's great that the government now wants to pay for ivf and the republican is now taking that position. i've never heard a republican ever want to take that position before. maybe we'll get paid family leave to i mean, you know, let's let's have the unit party really, we can have kamala harris and donald trump kind of go together. i mean, it's all over the place. there's no cohesion to and and i believe her word she's looking for his flip-flop. >> yeah. yeah. >> that one. >> well, let me quickly rich, do you believe that trump means to do these things? he's talking about or as just saying

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story republicans were quick to praise zuckerberg's admissions yeah there were censorship, big government was pressuring big tech to censor americans and it was predominantly conservatives kara, what is mark zuckerberg up to here is mark zuckerberg up to? >> well, he's two years too late and mark zuckerberg, the victim is not what anybody thinks about mark zuckerberg. he had two years to talk about this supreme court has since ruled on this at the government should be wary about talking. he's companies but should be allowed to. and i don't think he was under any kind of pressure. he just decided not to do it and now he's worried about house investigations. he's worried about doing another hearing in the fall. and so he's decided to give them what they wanted, which was this letter so it's politically time not oh, it's totally politically, especially the part where he said he had given money to help voter registration. >> and of course, he was attacked for it and then he said, even though it wasn't partisan, i'm going to not do it just in case people think it's partisan. the whole thing is political rich, is

zuckerberg trying to cozy up to republicans in congress? >> and they possibly re-elected donald trump to go easy on him for the next four years. >> he was under pressure by jim jordan's committee, this kind of i'll just add australia's anywhere. yeah. and it clearly seems to me like a palate cleanser you know, if trump potentially wins, he's fessing up to this. he's already talked about it a little bit that this happened and he thought thinks that's wrong in retrospect also saying he's not doing these so-called zucker bucks that a lot of people on the right were very worried about. but look, this is outrageous that the government would want to take out of the public domain any information, including jokes if you're an editor or someone with responsibility over what's out there. and the government says to take down a joke, your answer has to be no. oh pound sand, not in 1 million years and immediately expose. >> let me just say bridge according to who is not under oath, there hasn't so far if jim jordan had all this doubt, you think he's making it up? i absolutely do this a fabrication and the whole

supreme court case, also, all the facts are surface of the said the government made right? let karen supreme court's that case said the government should be able to talk to these companies, these, these states were trying to stop it and the fact that matter is trump has threatened prison for mark zuckerberg, prison, which is unprecedented. >> you don't seem to be very upset about that. >> you're saying on the one hand it didn't happen, but the government should be, i don't know if it happened, but i don't know if mark the factual record that's why why doesn't jim jordan and show us the testimony that was i want to move forward in this because zuckerberg does use the word he doesn't say that they censored facebook. he said that they they they're pressure amounted to it, but it was a decision made by faith well, kristen, do you view the government talking and even pressuring zuckerberg and facebook and social media platforms on whether it's covid or the hunter laptop. is that government censorship?

>> these ceos do not flight getting hauled in front of congress. they have very large it's companies that are potentially subject to enormous amounts of regulation that could completely blow up their business models so yes, i it may not be the case that anybody in the government sent mark zuckerberg a note and said, nice little facebook you got there would be a shame if something happened to it. but the reality is that these tech companies went from being the darling of why washington ten years ago to being everybody big enemy and punching bag. and i think now what you're seeing with zuckerberg's letter is they just want to stay away from this as much as possible. >> all right. here is how surgeon general vivek murthy described his conversation with social media platforms back in 2021 we are still seeing a proliferation of misinformation online and we know that health misinformation harms people's health. it costs them their lives lulu is that government, if you believe what murphy is

saying is that government censorship and his it wrong. >> i mean, no if that is the job of the surgeon general to talk about things that are going to cost peoples lives. >> there was an unprecedented health crisis and where people were actually putting out into the world things that were going to kill people. and so his job as the top doctor in this country is to say, actually we need to try and control those flows of information in the same way that if you here on cnn started spouting things that were completely untrue and we're going to actually hurt people well, you would have to fact check that information. and i think what people are coming to is that social media companies and called platforms. but they're really companies should be held to those similar standards. it's complicated. >> it's does not have any power. he's just a suggested person. you just talked about parental stress. the only ones threatening the social media companies with prison is done donald trump, no one else has

threat there, certainly with hearings, or you shouldn't do this. >> i want to bring up one last part of this discussion, zuckerberg also says that he wants his platforms to stay out of the 2024 election and be as neutral as possible. take a look. >> i think you're going to see our services play less of a role in this election and they have in the past and personally i'm also planning on playing a not playing a significant role in the election rich can social media platforms be politically neutral in the middle of a campaign? >> yeah, it's hard now, zuckerberg might think it's impossible because of 16, he was blamed by the left for for trump's election because trump's campaign used facebook very effectively. and in 2020, the right blamed him for biden's election because the zakhar books and all the other things yeah, these social media platforms should have a speech neutral free speech tight, standard for how they deal with their information. and there's

no role of government can try to control private information flows that is not the government role. the surgeon general can say what he believes is right, and what's good information? but he doesn't get to go and try to pressure private entities to change what they have on their and their newspapers are on their website real quickly. >> kara can zuckerberg can his platform stay neutral in this camp? >> know when i'd like you to meet elon musk's, so no, no. they can do whatever they want is what they can do. and he cannot stay neutral it is almost impossible. he's got communications platform that's enormous. the most important one in the world there's a popular practice that i'm guilty of some say should be banned. >> we'll show you. plus i'd caffeine kick in your wallet. the fall classic. that's getting a summer start with a hefty price tag monday night a two-hour whole stotory speciala the candidates and their record on the key issues for the election season.

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outpacing inflation and almost double the price hike for its other drinks, kristen, are you yea or nay, on pumpkin spice flation i am a nay on anything pumpkin spice latte. >> and that is not to say that i am anti autumn. autumn is my favorite season. i love everything about fall vibes. and every year right after her labor day, i walk into starbucks and i think maybe this year all like the pumpkin spice latte. and then i buy one and i realized it tastes like i'm drinking popery and i say no, thank you and i go back to my eyes, smoke as nay. >> okay. >> lulu, where are you on pumpkin spice lattes. and how much starbucks is charging for? >> yeah, i know. i'm totally with kristen on this. this is disgusting. it's an it's an aberration. my daughter likes it so, you know, the thing with starbucks is that they're basically know that they have a trapped audience. and so they keep on jacking up the prices because people keep talking about it. and apparently people like it. but i think it's disgusting next, a popular

practice, few of us talk about are even admit to i'm talking about stockpiling grocery bags after you put away your food i'll admit and the wallace household, we tend to hang onto bags, paper, or plastic, and store them under the sink or in a closet. and it turns out we're not alone. it's so popular. the washington he didn't post wrote about this habit and urged u.s. bagged collectors to let them go kara, are you yea or nay, on hoarding disposable bags? >> course, i am everyone does it. >> it's well, yeah, you're not in your sunday on it because i use them using for cat litter or i put recycling in them are things like that. i'm very used them. >> so you don't find i'd end up with a bag stuff with 30 other banks. >> situation is so beautifully organized. it's fantastic. so i'm we need to ban single-use plastic. yes, that is that's the thing. right. any other thing paperback going to call you the bag lady. go right ahead. >> rich. >> if i were look there the same. can the lowry household

or in the closet what i see. >> yeah. you'd see bags? yeah. i horn most everything to my wife's great frustration and regret that is mostly printed material, but we hang on to the banks. they come in handy. my grandmother, who grew up in the during the depression when throw anything away, not just banks, but she based basically tried to say if used paper towels, we're don't go that far, but the bags come in handy finally, the kelce brothers reaching new heights and their bank account, this week, the famous football brothers signed a $100 million deal with amazon for the popular podcast, new heights. >> the show which originally focused on sports now ranges from their lives as to pop culture. and sometimes those worlds collide like when travis started dating taylor swift here's the clip that started it all if you're up on taylor swift concerts, there are friendship bracelets and i received a bunch of them being there, but i wanted to give taylor swift's to one with my number on it. >> now right? >> heard hovers and 87 or your

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people if someone said that you were brat, would you be offended? would you be delighted with would you be confused? only one out of five americans said that they thought it would be a good thing. and then we ask people politically, what means have you seen about kamala harris? 75% of our respondents for genuinely like me. what are you even talking about? so it's just a reminder, tiktok may be important, but it is also not real life lulu you want to talk politics, best shot. >> i do one of the things that happened at the democratic national convention was that they did not allow pro-palestinian speakers onto this age. and those groups are feeling incredibly betrayed after that. and in response, what we've seen from the harris campaign is that they have now appointed a lawyer who's era, whose egyptian american to go out and try and liaise with these groups. this is going to be very important because a lot of arab americans who really care about the gaza issue are actually situated in

swing states. so it remains to be seen whether or not that choice that they made not to include pro-palestinian groups in the dnc is going to have blowback later. but certainly those groups are feeling like they are on the outside of the democratic party, even though we've seen polling that shows that arab americans generally are moving toward terrorists, even though they were very against biden rich, bring us on so j.d. >> vance obviously did have a rocky introduction to national life. the cat lady comments were an anchor around his neck and he's not necessarily the most warm and fuzzy campaigner, but he is proven tireless, fearless, really effective spokesman for this ticket. he talks to interact with the press every single day. does it's hostile interviews as far as i can tell, has not had one misstep wait a minute. >> how about vance? this week telling kamala harris to go to hell for criticism about trump's visit to arlington, which in fact, she never made. >> do you think the campaign didn't want him to do that or did want to do that? >> i would hope they want to

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