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off the job in major cities across america what the union is demanding, these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here. here to cnn news central today vice president kamala harris and top campaign surrogates are hitting the trail. >> they are targeting working class voters and crucial blue wall swing state it's an any moment we expect to see the vice president taking the stage to speak at a labor day event in detroit, appearing alongside members and leaders of some of the largest unions in the country. hours later, she'll be joined by president joe biden at a local union hall in pittsburgh and this will mark their first joint campaign appearance since harris took over the top of the ticket cnn national politics correspondent, eva mckend is in detroit for us so eva, what are the harris campaign's goals today is they're holding these events with union members

brianna, she is here to enforce her support for labor she will argue that the biden harris administration patient has been the most pro labor administration in american history. and while republicans have made gains with rank and file members, really some cultural appeal he or she will argue that it is democrats and by extension, her, that support the most pro-union policies like the pro act that would extend legal protections for employees. michigan congresswoman elissa slotkin, who's running for senate. she was just up on stage she told these union workers listening. don't be bamboozle republicans might be trying to court your vote. would democrats are the ones that actually support pro union policies. >> now, this does illustrates brianna that democrats can't afford to leave any coalition on the table. >> they are leaning on every conceivable voter in this battleground state. president biden, only won michigan in

2020 by about 154,000 votes. so bottom line, the message today from the vice president to this audience and the signs read is such is that she is union strong brianna all right. >> eva mckend, live for us from detroit. >> let's bring in now cnn senior white house reporter kevin liptack kevin, what is the president's role going to be in this push to election day well, it's a new role for president biden. >> he's no longer the candidate. what he's doing is acting as something of a validator in chief for his vice president who he is trying to push across the finish line in november. and what will see him doing today is appear at a labor day event at a union hall and pittsburgh and you really can't think of a more joe biden type event than labor day and pittsburgh the place that he's spent many labor day is over the last several years and it is all part of this strategy that his advisers have been sketching out over the last

couple of weeks of how he is going to spend the remainder of his term and what you're seeing him do today kind of exemplifies it really focusing on those so-called blue wall states, pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin really working to appeal to blue collar workers who he is still holds some political capital with, and he will, aside from being in pennsylvania today, also be in michigan and wisconsin later this week. now, he is entering this week with a slight uptick in his approval rating. actually, since he withdrew from the race, and certainly his advisers and how camila harris, his campaign advisers want to capitalize on that, want to put him out in front of the voters, that he does well with in this campaign. we're carmel harris, i think it's me she is running on a new path forward. but of course she also wants to show loyalty to president biden and demonstrate her adherence to the policies that he enacted in office. so it will be interesting balancing act to watch them as they hit the campaign trail for

the first time today. now, over the weekend, the harris campaign did get some good news. new poll showed them a leading slightly against donald trump among likely voters. but you do hear them very much guarding against any over-confidence and democrats, the campaign chair, jen o'malley, dillon saying in a memo make no mistake, we head into the final stretch of this race as the clear underdogs, donald trump has motivated base of support with more support and higher favorability than he has at any point since 2020. so certainly looking to guard against complacency as they enter this final stretch. >> all right. we'll be watching today. kevin liptack. thank you so much. pamela well, today, former president donald trump is not on the trail, but a key legal battle is just days away. that's a court hearing in his federal election subversion case. the first since the supreme court's ruling on presidential immunity. and it comes as the former president claims in a recent interview that he had quote, every right to interfere

with the 2020 election. >> watch it's so crazy that my poll numbers go up whoever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election where you have every right to do it. >> you get indicted and you poll numbers go up joining me now is cnn national correspondent kristen holmes and cnn legal analyst carrie cordero, christian straight to you because you have been following president trump for quite some time now and former president, i should say that seem pretty clear. >> the former president admitting to interfering with the election. >> i mean, he had said some think similar before many times over, there's a keyword missing, right? >> and that word is accused or alleged, right? he constantly says the same exact thing, which is they are accusing me of interfering with the election, which i would have had every right to do to question that election because there were some income just in in his mind. he says that

anyone has the right to question that. obviously, in that clip, he was lacking the word, accused. they're just said that he was indicted for interfering with the election which he had every right to do. now in terms of what this means legally for donald trump, i will let carrie answer that. but what this means it's politically is that his team has just doesn't want to deal with this. they have already pointed to the fact that he has said this before we know that on thursday of last week, they held a big legal call with all their surrogates trying to brief them on how exactly to stay on message. it was led by some of his lawyers, by boris epstein is it's legal advisor. they are trying to get ahead of all these legal issues. it doesn't help when donald trump comes out and says something like that in an interview. >> so what does this mean legally? >> well, with respect to his public statements, i think his what he says in public in a news interview really isn't particularly relevant to what is trans it's firing in the legal channel. >> what's going to matter in the actual case now that the special counsel has brought the superseding indictment that accords with the supreme

court's ruling on immunity. what's going to matter is what evidence the port now allows to get into this case the special counsel has made a decision about where it thinks the where the justice department things the line should be drawn in terms of what evidence should come in, and she'll come out. but it's going to go back to the district court and then depending on how were the politics comes in, really is in terms of whether or not this case gets to go forward depending on who wins the election. so just to follow up the prosecutors, you don't think would use what he said have been out of guilt? i don't think that they're going to focus so much on the things that he says. >> now in this time that are relevant to things that are the actual activities. so what matters is things that he did actions that he took at the time of the actual conduct which is surrounding the 2020 election. i don't my own view is that they're not going to give a lot of credence to things that he says publicly because he says things all of the un in terms of the full spectrum, some things he says

publicly are true, some things are not true, many things are not true or blur the lines of truth so of course, his advisors, as you noted, they want him to focus on the economy, immigration. >> he continues to talk about the truth 2020 election, of course there is this superseding indictment. >> you know, and it's interesting to me though, as he focuses on the past, he's also setting the stage for the upcoming election. >> kristen talk of talking about how it's going to be rid of if he loses, it's the same old playbook. >> yeah. and one of the things that we have heard this time around that we didn't hear before was this idea of quote, unquote, too big to rig, which is donald trump's way of trying to get people out to vote by saying they're going to try everything that they can then being democrats. >> but we we need to do is all show up to vote. because if we show up to vote, then it will be so big that they can't rig the election. well, that was really what we saw during the biden when he was running against biden at the top of the ticket. now, it's turned back into this idea that democrats are going to try and steal the election because there's no way that they could possibly win unless they're trying to

do some dirty tricks, which is something that we heard back in 2020 now, we'll see what happens as we move forward. we obviously have been at a time where donald trump has had a very hard time finding getting footing against camila harris. none of his lines seem to be landing the way that he wants them to, which might be why he's talking about what was going to happen in 2024 at that election that might, he might why he might be insinuating that things could be unfair because he feels unsure on his own footing at the election. so we'll see what happens moving before. but of course, this is something we've heard from donald trump time and time again since 2020. again, when he was running against biden and now guns kamala harris, but it's interesting to within the context of his legal future and how much it depends on him winning this election, right? because if he doesn't win there's. a very good chance. i mean, he go to trial. right. it's very unlikely anything would happen before the election on that front. >> yeah, nothing's going to a tal before the election. and if he does not win this election, then presumably a harris administration would allow the justice department and the special counsel to continue this case, then i think we have

months, if not years, of potentially protracted litigation in this case because each time the court considers whether or not certain evidence accords with the supreme court's decision, then the former president's team would presumably appeal. and so we could see this case drag on for a very, very long time where i do think it could potentially have actually a practical and positive from the perspective of democracy impact on the current election is the fact that this case could serve as a deterrent to individuals out in the states who in the past and part of this case were wrapped up in false electors and engaging in signing documents that have been brought into this case. individuals out in the states might think differently about behaving and taking actions in the same way in 2024 as they did in 2020. that's a really smart point. all right. carrie cordero, kristen holmes. thank you so much and coming up rage and israel after six hamas hostages

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outrage over the deaths of six hostages killed in gaza mass protests and a general label strike labor, strike, putting enormous pressure on netanyahu to finally get a hostage deal done after 11 months of agony for these families. and at the white house, president biden and vice president harris just wrapped up a critical meeting with the us negotiators team, the president saying, today that when asked about netanyahu's efforts about thus far mr. president, do you think it's hard for prime minister netanyahu on this issue, do you think he's doing enough? >> no well that sums it up today. mourners gathered for the funeral of slain american israeli hostage hersh goldberg polin, the twenty-three-year-ol d, was among those expected to be released in a ceasefire deal, according to us and israeli officials, cnn's jeremy diamond joins us now live from tel-aviv. so what are we expecting to hear from netanyahu? >> jeremy well pam over the

last 36 hours israel has been filled with grief, anger, and despair, but amid all of that, there has also been a sense of hope perhaps the deaths of these six hostages executed by hamas, kept by their hamas captors according to the israeli military, that perhaps their deaths could bring about a change in the israeli government, a change that could potentially lead to a hostage and ceasefire deal. >> but what we have heard over the course of the last day has been a lot of doubling down from the israeli prime minister privately, we are told that he continues to insist that the israeli military must retain control of that philadelphi corridor crucial strip of land along the gaza, egypt border, that that would be a condition for a hostage deal, despite the fact that hamas insists on israeli troops removing themselves from that very same stretch of land. and so as we prepare to hear from the israeli prime minister, it

seems more likely that he will be talking about a way to influence thanks pain upon hamas rather than wait to get to an agreement with hamas. and that's because one israeli official is telling us that the israeli prime minister intends to quote hurt hamas in a way that israel hasn't done before. and so certainly, for the tens of thousands of people who are gathering here today. who gathered here last night, that there may be a sense of disappointment with that because yes. we'll obviously blame hamas before kidnapping these individuals for killing them. as israel brought their bodies back over the weekend. but they had also hoped that they also believe that the israeli prime minister has not done enough secure a hostage deal that he is prioritizing his own personal political ambitions, remaining in power, keeping his government in power over the fate of those hostages and so we're continuing to see israelis here coming out into the streets demanding that their government does more to

bring those hostages home and bring them home. i'm alive and not in body bags as we saw over the weekend right? >> jeremy diamond. thank you for bringing us the latest there, brianna let's talk more now about these developments with rob d'amico. >> he is the former deputy operations chief chief for the fbi hostage rescue team. rob just first reaction to this horrific news that these six hostages were killed according to israel, just a short while before israeli troops were able to reach them. >> yeah it's one of those things that i saw coming as as things get more desperate in the negotiations and they start looking at rescue attempts i always thought that hamas was going to kill before they allow the israelis to get and rescue him. one, it's a pr thing that the israeli please, you're doing well to assert negotiating chip. and i really think right now they're using the information war better than israel is because they see the pressure on netanyahu to do

something here. hamas murdered six people and people are now protests against netanyahu. so the information war, they haven't advantage, they've been winning it it's october 7 the father of hersch goldberg, polin, the israel israeli american among the six said it is son's funeral that he hoped his death would be the fuel that will bring home the remaining 101 hostages. >> do you see that happening? >> i see it's getting to a point is coming up to that critical point netanyahu obviously has something larger that he's looking at with the negotiations. there's something in there and if it's a plot of land that he refuses to pull up israeli troops out of. i think there's a national security pretty reason and i think he doesn't want to do that. but then again, the pressure is building up so much. then his future political ambitions may go away because he just isn't, isn't able to get voted back in. so i think for him, it's coming up to

which is more important than you take the short term. do you give into it and then figured out a way to make that secure and get the hostages home and deal with all the other things after that, or do you keep holding out for that one? and i think that's probably what item was looking at, what truly is his holding point and how can he use his leverage to get israel to equate to that and say, okay, let's, let's figure out later did the hostages home? >> it's one of those. this is the most public negotiations the hostages the world's ever seen. so it's very, very dynamic and how each is using the power of the press to get the word across what do you think this is going to do to future israeli attempts, as you said, they've had some success when it comes to some hostage rescues. >> and we've even seen videos of where the successful rescues have happened. i should mention that benjamin netanyahu has just come out. are we going to go ahead and take that live or we listen? are we going to listen in a rob, hold on? going to listen to this for just a

moment be too much and we'll come up, you mix in a bit of an exercise against the evil excess of iran. >> the first conditions for victory in this existential war zones, be it i know who it's been it. >> could you should we have to be united as one person against a cruel enemy. >> law should mean who want to eliminate all of us without any exceptions. >> right and left, that the lumen, religious and secular people doing below jews and non-jews and i hope you we found out we just covered in not only over 7 october, but throughout the war but even more so in the horrible massacre oh, the dumka in the execution. so as you show me that to six of our hostages gmail got carmel gat and then you will and then you shall me

use goldberg-polin, whose goldberg polin sasha lubanga sasha luban, have our moxa will see we have some already shown what we they always called the mom he got avenge their party by rama over the last 24 hours of income been on the phone with a a few of the families of the hostages. >> and while we're talking a lot it looks at the pictures, show lanisha motto waterline of these holy spirit. you live truly in my heart and the heart of the nation, which probably the system broke the osha go and you can see the lights go out and meet emitted from their faces you hear about their life stories of color over for barbie and these slide is shut

this innocence is gone you got the solution for zone. by the cruel hands of monsters i told the families and i repeat and say this evening i'm asking for your forgiveness that we didn't manage to bring them back alive we're very close, but we couldn't make it we'll go moment. ago and i repeat tonight israel is not going to ignore this massacre. >> hamas, your show lemon call, the hamas will pay a heavy price for this, a very heavy price it's you know her shop i mean. >> the war against the evil in these specific war with hamas against hamas the gunboats and up in the north as well we've

sat for girls to eliminate hamas. now shubert call to bring all of our hostages back a lot of they secure that gaza is not going to be a threat over israel. >> and to return safely our residents in the north shall be to hamas. three out of those goals of what mukoma have, they go through. one place feel, the philadelphi corridor votes in all comes down by cup. this is hamas, a lifeline had come out. the court last bill want to take a few minutes to understand what the significance, the meaning of the philadelphi corridor is. >> much more to only what is the meaning for the security of israel why is it important for you, bob? >> october, we ought to make sure that 7 october is not going to repeat itself. >> hamas, if the us lawsuit has the hamas promised that we would look cool. i want to show you i mean what we had throughout the years until we

went out of gaza you can see the gaza strip the distance from tel-aviv robert chevaux is not great but we had an international border from the sea to a lot that was the international border of this state of israel i'm a fella let me start abdullah. >> when you look at it, all, zoomed-in, you can see that all these borders our. hours and ashkelon the whole ashkelon to the hotel and the key kibbutz kerem shalom really matter at the bottom. the philadelphi corridor coulomb, michelin, the under our control so much of color. what happened when we left gaza much of gaza shot what happened that the gulag

water to voters are still in our hands well, i'm a but, once we left, we got through philadelphia and we left the philadelphi corridor philadelphia philadelphi corridor is the border between the gaza strip and egypt the biography had some omission. and once we left it to her son, there is no barrier there must save it against themselves, fema infiltration of arms and weapons that mean and means for the taking tunnels all with the support of iran. all these things entered gaza in gaza turned into a great threat over the state of israel because there was no barrier in the philadelphi corridor. that's

what happened and now i'm being asked if it was so bad i'm going why didn't tpp i'm going to take it over. why didn't take it back? and the answer is callers money that we've always tried. >> we always try i can shoot immediately after we left gaza in 2005, mostly i was shocking haka. >> it continued even after that even under mobarak hamas re-arming gaza and we fought them in a few words, to get done i let some of them we fought aid zircon, move on this thing. >> of course. >> his son was brought to the fact that we eliminated thousands of terrorists and their leaders. there was no

international legitimacy, legitimacy to enter gaza to conquer gaza to take over the philadelphi corridor again, there was no international, national or international agreement. the significance of the philadelphi corridor i taught, i said about that also 20 years ago when chauvin said that we'll leave gaza in 2003 on the, 26, march 22,004 i mean, him. >> i said what my demands where the minimum demands and i said my first condition he is controlling by russia, but all the entrances to gaza are wedeman. well, if you don't see corridor that separates gaza because her strip and egypt is not going to be evacuated. if israel is going to withdraw from the philadelphi corridor does ai will become a terror

enclave? when i resigned the government when i found out that they're going to uproot the jewish settlements in gaza i get my resignation letter to shovel on the prime minister and i said, as a minimum i demanded that we will keep the philadelphi corridor in our hands. this is not a new thing it was clear that if we don't have the corridor there will be rearming there will be the creation of a monster varchar, the evil axes needs the philadelphi corridor. and for that reason we must keep control of the philadelphi corridor. this is why hamas insistence, we are not going to be there. and this is why i insist that we are going to be there phil, the presence along the philadelphia corridor, a corridor is that strategic thing. we have to make it clear

that we are there and i'm being told okay. we'll wait withdrawal for 42 days and then we'll come back to you but we've been we've been there already we were there when we left lebanon. began as many people said that you know, been looming will be able to go back there when the first rocket is going to be launched. but there's no international support for that we're very told them when we left the streep were told what is the problem with the first one that we're going to re-enter gaza let's leave shan wu will only 20 years, has passed. a fast end we haven't re-entered gaza border anyone who says that there's no problem, the local re-entering they wrong.

>> there is a problem it's not an easy thing to do it's not a military tactic thing it is a question of your mother have a huge international pressure that is put on the state of israel if we will we will not able to go back i can tell you how difficult it was to overcome the international pressure to enter refer look what we had to pay there was a huge, immense pressure. the icc going bob, good a weapon embargo we paid with the lives of our soldiers. >> i efforts but this is nothing compared to what's going to happen if we're going to withdraw and every everyone understands the significance of that? what everyone wants is for us to end the war this

corridor is different from all the other axes central it's instrumental to our future it has a huge significance to us but for the world who wants us to end the world, then the last thing the world wants is for us to enter the philadelphi corridor lamola why do we need to get into this trap when women notions they have well being robbed you back into this conversation facing a lot of pressure, rob, you have netanyahu making the case for why it's so important to hold on to this poorest part of the border into gaza, which would be the transit this sort of overland route from egypt into rafah, into southern gaza, where hamas is able to get so much of its supplies and he's

trying to sell a very skeptical public who has just seen six israelis die. he's trying to sell them on. we cannot fold hold even as you want a hostage deal. i wonder how you think he's able to convince them or not we'll see what would i see on the negotiation side. >> he's still passionate about that you can just tell his body language he is not, this has been his his setting point that he's not going to give up. so i think that we know that now we know why he's coming to the public and saying this is why yes, it's cost us israelis now but in the future it's going to cost us a lot more israelis if they can easily bring weapons in through a border that is not controlled by them. and he pointed out but it goes back in time to where this was also an issue so i think it's really him looking at a national security thing that he just cannot take off the table because he sees what the cost is gonna be down the road. everyone. when your families

are involved or you have personal acquaintance involved in the hostage thing, you it's so hard if they're involved in the negotiations because you're looking at this from a different point of view and you can't blame them. but he's looking at it down the road and the number of israelis i think that he knows that will be lives will be taken because of the ability to get weapons. it'd be like opening up our southwest border to the drug dealers if we're trying to go oren drugs, that's where it's all going to come from because egypt is not going to guard it like israel and israelis yeah, he also can't keep his coalition together right now there. >> they don't they don't want him to agree to a deal and he's going to see his government dissolve. it appears if he does agree to one, he's also on the other side facing this wave of public pressure. so it is quite a moment there in israel real a rob d'amico. thank you so much for being with us. we do appreciate it and we'll be right back with more choose e advivil liquid g for fast s sure strongerer, ana

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strategies, chuck rocha is a democratic strategist who served as a senior adviser to bernie sanders 2016 dean and 2020 campaigns are chuck how critical is biden for kamala harris in pennsylvania? >> very, very, very i can't say very enough. not only happy labor day to everybody out there, but i moved here from pittsburgh. my son still a steam fitter in pittsburgh, joe biden is loved in pennsylvania, he beat donald trump there this is one of the places she really needs him. and another reason why i told folks that she picked him walls to moos has a great labor record. and in pennsylvania, much like michigan that you were just talking about, and wisconsin, there's the biggest one of the last bastions of old school white working class folks who worked with heart attacks, work with their hands every day and take a shower when they're done with work it's right good or die. i love that. >> we know that president biden will also be campaigning with harris later this week. weekend wisconsin errand to bring you in on that. is there any risk associated with that there's

certainly risk with brain joe biden out on the campaign trail. >> the risk was seen and it was felt certainly for democrats after the early debate which pushed joe biden off the ballot well, it's nice to have him out there the closer that democrats and kamala harris get to joe biden, the more reminder that this is not a change election, but more of the same. camila has said in interviews that she would continue to pursue the foreign affairs strategy of the biden harris administration, that this would not be much of a change election and that change dea right now is really what is propelling camila forward in the polls if they continue to have her width, joe biden at campaign events they will begin to lose that change narrative right now, which is helping them bringing in those marginal independent swing voters. they are so critical to a successful campaign in november we see erin the harris campaign widening the gender gap here right before the convention, she had the six point lead among women. now it is 13 points how concerned

should the trump campaign be about that the trump campaign needs to be focusing especially on female voters because that is a wide persuadable group. >> and one of the largest voting blocs in this country. you've seen donald trump tried to weigh in, trying to talk about i'm ef and supporting a woman's access to health care. but we need to make sure that we are not treating women as a monolithic group who only vote based on abortion. they care about the economy. they care about taxes, they care about safety and security. the more common harris is able to make inroads into a female voting bloc the harder it will be for donald trump when he's going to need to try and drive up, the white non-college educated male voter to try and counteract it. larger subset of female voters. so this is a perilous time. they need to make be making sure they're talking to female voters as well. >> it's true that female voters are not a monolithic group and it comes to voting but there is

this new, new york times and siena college poll of registered voters. and then actually found that among those swing state voters as female swing-state voters under the age of 45 abortion is actually their top issue. >> i'm working in congressional races all over the country. i'm really lucky to have a great firm is doing a lot of work around the country. so i get to see glimpses of what the report hello, because you're doing running ads against us and the ads that were running in every congressional race in america. if it's not the first ad that the democrats running, it's the second ad because it's such a mobilizing force to these exact women. you're talking about. this is a place where we thought, oh, my god, we have to use this in 2020. we have to use this issue in 22. it's still very relevant especially in the suburbs of most major just cities where these marginal congressional seats sit and they overlap with presidential races. >> chuck, what do you think about this recent interview with trump reset? he had every right to interfere with an election. is that something that's going to sway voters? is it just baked in? it is baked in a lot, but there's such a small guy group of folks in every one of these states that we're talking to in focus groups, that are that little sliver of undecided.

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availability of services for families with special needs can dramatically vary by state or even within a state last year, the military mandated active duty service members who meet the criteria in role in what's called the exceptional family member program to help ensure for that their families are assigned to locations that are best suited to accommodate their specific needs. >> but according to a department of defense survey, only 43% of these families are satisfied with the support that they're getting. we're joined now by michelle norman, the executive director and founder of partners and promise. it's a group that advocates for military families with special needs. michelle, thank you so much for joining us to talk about what's really this is a critical issue to the military and keeping people in it you started this group after dealing with a gap and assistance firsthand you're seeing less than half a families surveyed are satisfied. i suspect you were not surprised by that number absolutely so a little bit of

background about me. >> i have been a navy spouse for over 29 years and i am a mother of a beautiful adult young adult daughter who has spent her entire life within this military system in within the efm p program that the survey was made for and i was fortunate to testify a little over 4.5 years ago in front of congress to talk about the issues that our military families with disabilities face and our families are struggling. they're struggling for that to have some continuity of care of their loved ones as we move so very often within this highly mobile lifestyle, we move as you know, every two to three years. and so that really did lead to a co-founding partners and promise for we conduct research. and we also are able to use that data to be able to inform, educate, empower our military families. because what we're finding through that research is, that that really is a gap of support every time we move from when do these station to another in our family, they are waiting.

they're waiting months to get medical care every time that they move from one station to another, we're waiting months for individually education programs, which are the special ed programs our kids are in to be able to receive the supports and services every time they move. and so you can see it's a cycle each and every time you move. finally, by the time you do get those services, you're up and moving one more time. and again, our kids are falling through the cracks and cfm program is supposed to be able to make it a little bit smoother. but as you noted some of the data's supports that that's program is not working the way it's intended to be and i know i've heard anecdotally from families. >> maybe they put up with one duty station where their kid is not getting what they need. but often the second time this happens, they're thinking, i'm wanting to get out of the military even if that's a cruel we're path that they want, they see how it's negatively impacting their kids, how is this challenge impacting retention in the military well,

that's interesting because you do hear that there are some positive stories of those who have been able to navigate the ef mpi program and i think that if you saw some of the results from this survey, there are some positive notes from the marine corps in the navy. but what is concerning, like you mentioned 51% of the respondents the s&p did not make their moves smoother at all. >> 31% of the respondents. so they did not receive medical care at all in a timely manner after a move. >> those are issues that impact those attention and readiness issues. >> again, big quality of life issues for our families and let's back up a little bit. this survey number one was conducted over a year-and-a-half ago, and there's some questions about the way it was conducted and collected and how the results have been given to us. and then secondly, and i think most importantly, dmd failed to survey the military spouses is as you know, brianna, military spouses are the caregivers writhing once you coordinate the most care for our families.

and so that does make you wonder how the service members were really answering the questions to this survey. but really what it comes down to is that there's some fundamental flaws with this program. i think this was a missed opportunity to see how we can improve this. >> we want this program to be a value add for our families and we maybe need to look at outside of the dod, maybe do some type of independence review commissions like we've done for the sexual assault and suicide issues at the dod has had maybe need to bring this subject matter experts and triple you look at the fnp program. >> let's go ahead and evaluate it, come up with or recommendations. >> let's bring in military a families and others who have worth in the managed care community happen, make lives easier for these families because as you note less than 1% of those actually are in the military, these are quality of life issues impacts our readiness and retention. we do everything we can to support these military families yeah, very, very good points there. michelle and as you mentioned

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